How many of you still watch porn?
You know porn is being used as a political tool against you, right? It's not a meme or a /pol/ political conspiracy, it's actually happening. Modern music industry and porn industry are two sides of the same coin, the first aimed at Young girls, and the second aimed at all men. They use natural sexual impulses as a catalyst to inject the poison into your minds and disrupt your sexuality and your hormonal system.
If you watch porn and you call yourself a nationalist, you must quit, and first of all, you must realize you can quit. You can still masturbate if you feel the need and you can't get a girlfriend, but don't watch porn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQcq-2qXZUk
>If you watch porn and you call yourself a nationalist, you must quit
There is sound reasoning and logic in here somewhere. There has to be.
>>80317889
I will bump it too, since a lot of people is Reading it, but nobody replies.
>>80314243
It's the internet as a whole that's the problem. Porn addiction would not exist were it not for the internet. It used to be some niche thing that some schlubby manlet used to watch after buying several VHS tapes at the local XXX superstore.
The problem is the internet.
>>80318060
Disrupting your sexuality and breaking down your natural hormonal system should be enough reason.
You don't think those thinks are happening? Then I can't help you. Nobody can. Think about it again and again, it's the only thing I can say.
>>80318081
Internet makes everything bigger, but it's not a problema by itself.
I get a lot of useful information from the internet.
Heres some food porn
>>80318414
Yes you do but not everyone uses it for that purpose.
Must be their fault, right?
Yes but there's more to it, it becomes a problem when more and more and more people are doing it.
Internet addiction is ruining society. Porn addiction wouldn't even be an issue were it not for the net.
Fuck I love adderall and porn
Why is it so good
>>80318414
he's actually right.
the Internet is the ultimate Globalist weapon that destroys national/local traditions and businesses.
We'd all be better off without it.
>>80314243
Interesting. Young girls and all men distracted, so old women can take over the planet. It's fucking happening.
>>80318672
>old women
the cult of Cybele. Old women and tranny witches
Cyber-space
>>80318644
Yeah except you can get anything you want on Amazon for cheap at your doorstep and you get free movies to boot
>>80318541
moar liek food GORE amirite
I'm on day 16 of nofap lads. feeling good. goal is a whole month. wish me luck
>porn affects your brain
>regular sex doesn't
next you'll tell me exchanging bodily fluids affect your brain chemistry positively
>>80318766
that's precisely why the Internet is destroying society.
>>80318840
gotta do noporn though so dont edge
good luck my record is 53 days
Its incredible when you first fully realize that ALL porn is cuckold porn
>>80318766
It's breeding an instant gratification effect that society will have to address. We've fucked up big time, as evidenced by the amount of NEETs and what have you. Not to blame them, they're just a symptom.
Everything is too convenient, there's no incentive to better yourself. Porn is just one facet of a greater problem that is the internet.
Spent 2 days last weekend watching porn and snorting meth.
I regret nothing.
>>80318989
yep and 4chan is cuckversation.
You're watching other people converse and not actually doing it (conversation involves face to face contact)
>>80318876
Regular sex means sex with your wife.
>>80318989
well technically just hardcore. softcore isn't.
>>80319013
The only incentive is for people involved in the tech / media industries to create and add more to the beast itself.
>>80314243
bump
my dick off to porn
>>80318876
>having a stable sexual partner is the same as jacking off and has the same consequences on your brain
You can come up with whatever excuses you want, I didn't make this thread to engage an endless argument, but to serve as an impulse for many men here who want to quit porn.
If you want to keep jacking off to a computer screem watching how another man fucks a woman, no matter what, go ahead and do it.
>>80318973
yeah. no edging for sure, but it's hard to avoid porn when you browse /pol/. Wish we were a worksafe board.
>>80314243
Retard
>>80319076
Triggered masturbator spotted. Its true that social media is destroying face to face social skills good job. But remember youre watching a man fuck a woman youre attracted to and noone believes you only crank it to lesbian shit. ALL porn is KEKOLD porn
They are both tools of the devil
>>80319013
I feel there are many more reasons not to better ones self, but the negative dendritic reinforcement porn causes is something to be worried about.
Porn is as degenerative as pretty much all serials, movies and videogames. One thing is physical fap and the others are mental ones. Nothing of them is productive.
>>80319357
People here should deeply consider a celibate life before jumping right into looking for women.
I don't get why celibacy isn't celebrated on /pol/, usually people tell you you're a faggot for not chasing pussy, but really in this day and age it can be more degenerate to even try to marry.
Don't quit porn to get laid, quit porn to remove your desire for sex entirely
>>80319549
yep and so is your computer
programming = witchcraft
>>80319565
The same can, again, be attributed to the internet as a whole.
What's porn's issue? Sucks you in? 4chan does the same. Let's not pretend we haven't spent several hours here before shitposting.
>>80318541
what the fuck
>>80318644
The opposite use true. Internet breeds division. It pours gasoline on our natural tendencies to gravitate toward similar people and group think emerges. The usual social necessity to socialize with different people has been dramatically diminished.
We all have found out enclave and we go back to it. And, judgement suffers due to lack of diverse inputs.
Have a nice night.
>>80318642
jerking off after a day of adderall is LITERALLY the best fucking feeling.
>>80314243
to address op's post, though, i usually don't watch porn. my imagination's good enough.
>>80318541
Nasty. I rather down a 8 ounce cup of wheat grass juice instead.
>>80314243
Occasionally but I'm totally desensitized to porn now, it barely helps me jerking off. Who the fuck gets turned on by triple anal penetration, it's a freak show at this point.
At least efukt has entertainment value, "it's only smellz".
I'd give it up if it wasn't so pervasive and readily available.
>>80314243
I thought your video link was going to be one of the lectures from a study of porn and it's effects. This is why people have a hard time taking many of the ideas here seriously. The people who present the contentions do a shit job.
>>80318876
You saw this shit too?
http://www.sheknows.com/love-and-sex/articles/1079514/health-benefits-of-sperm
>>80319013
instant gratification? I'm lucky if my 24 hour shipping comes in within 24 hours
>>80319797
it breeds division while simultaneously homogenizing the cultures that feel as if they're seperate
>>80319432
Nice arguments, Moshe. Better shut it down, just in case.
>>80319587
>quit porn to remove your desire for sex entirely
That is imposible for a Young man unless you cut off your balls, don't talk nonsense.
You don't have to chase woman everyday anyways. In fact, the steps go like this:
1)Improve yourself and be who you really like to be (no excuses). You can't expect someone to like you if even you dislike yourself.
2)The woman will come alone in this process if you are worthy of her. You don't have to worry about that at all.
>>80320223
I have actual diagnosed autism (not some bullshit self-diagnosed meme from being a NEET, I have a good job as an engineer).
I realize my brain is just not meant for what it takes to raise a family, and I don't want to burden future children with having a brain damaged father
>>80319720
Yes it can.
The issue with porn is the medium as all poor doesn't have the same effects.
Even so, I would argue we are under conditions which are driving us toward the internet. The use isn't the issue, it's only a symptom of greater environmental imbalance.
>>80318644
he's actually right.
the spinning jenny is the ultimate Globalist weapon that destroys national/local traditions and businesses.
We'd all be better off without it.
>>80320134
Actually it deepens the division by confirmation bias and unjustified feelings of security and safety in the enclave.
>>80319357
This
People will always argue
Cause it's an addiction
>>80319959
You know you need air to survive. Do you really need to know why, or a lecture about it? No. Just breath, and live.
Those things are interesting, but at the end, useless.
Porn harms you, and you will know it just by listening carefully to your own body. Just quit.
>>80318541
thats disgusting. i feel sick.
build the wall and deport the subhumans that eat that.
>>80320534
But now everyone, regardless of what echo chamber they're in , use the same sterile corporate abstractions to access their world.
>>80318541
What is all that crap she is putting on? It's like you think she is done but then she adds more shit, for over a minute. Also Build the Wall.
>>80320645
give me ONE good reason why you need a sexual assault rifle, ONE!!!!!
How many of you still go to 4chan?
You know 4chan is being used as a political tool against you, right?
>>80319357
>If you want to keep jacking off to a computer screem watching how another man fucks a woman, no matter what, go ahead and do it.
why can't you just say that
I would much rather listen to someone talk like they care about how people live than ramble about some bullshit pseudoscience
>>80314243
You can't change peoples habits if they don't see anything wrong with it themselves.
I believe porn is a powerful tool, here's how you can test it if you are already addicted. Try and get hard without watching porn, I bet you can't.
>>80319577
But posting on 4chan is productive as well?
>>80318081
You can get porn mags dude, when i was like 12 buddies and I use to raid building sites and there would just be porn mags everywhere
>>80318541
Fuckin white people
ok so why not just watch amateur porn without a supposed agenda behind it, like you could listen to music that's not coming from a major corporate label?
I know, but it's too late for me. I've already descended into apathetic nihilism. I've already paid for fart porn THERE IS NO COMING BACK
I'M DEGENERATE FOREVER
>>80318761
for something that seems kinda shitposty, that makes so much fucked up sense
>>80321309
doesn't matter because they're all imitating what they learned from the Industry
just like how 4chan posters like to pretend they're making their own memes or original insights but they're all just programmed from the media they consumed as kids
>>80320970
But I just said it.
I don't like to see an entire generation of White men totally emasculated and deprived of their virility by several tools of the international jew (feminism, pop music, porn, etc)
If you want to be a slave of the NWO do it, but then don't complain about shit like "muh degeneracy" muh "all women are sluts", etc, because you are a part of the problem.
This thread is aimed at those who DON't want to be a part of the problem.
>>80320704
I'm not sure why you are arguing a position to me which I have admitted to supporting. I'm saying you present a contention without evidence, but provide a (to the normalfags) strangely edited video rife with anti-Semitic imagery. That is a proven method to lose potential supporters. I'd like these ideas to be presented tactfully, logically, and with evidence as the current methods mostly alienate and garner ill will.
>>80321366
If you look into it, old hag trannies are a very different animal than the "traps"
the latter are just porn addicts looking for another rush,
the former (like Kaitlyn or the Wachowskis) are virtually Asexual, it has occult/spiritual significance instead, they're batshit insane and probably possessed
>>80318840
>>80319392
good luck
it's really hard when you browse the internet at all... I recommend cutting out media entirely
I was trying it for a while and I'd find myself on /b/ touching myself without even thinking of it. Then I'd catch myself and be like NOOO IT'S BEEN 2 WEEKS DON'T GIVE IN NOW.
Think I made it over a month once and then I woke up from a sexy dream already halfway there and couldn't stop myself. Currently just trying to be better and not watch porn. But if I go back to nofap, I'll have to give up this website (and the internet) for the duration.
>>80321499
http://www.jewwatch.com/porn.html
>Goldstein said, "The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don't believe in authoritarianism. Pornography thus becomes a way of defiling Christian culture and, as it penetrates to the very heart of the American mainstream...becomes more charged..." Goldstein continued, "I believe in me. I'm God. F*ck God. God is your need to believe in some super being. I am the super being. I am your God, admit it...."
Jews have always ran the porn industry. They are trying to destroy Western society and subvert gentile morals and they are winning. Look at the world today, we are all fucked.
>>80314243
I'm totally addicted to porn and want to quit but it's really fucking hard and I hate it
I've used porn to jack off almost everyday or multiple times a day for the past nine years at least
It's so accessible that me stopping just seems impossible
sometimes I just do it out of boredom and immediately after I just feel terrible
>>80314243
question if I'm in the furry community I and others creating art (PORN) for our selves who controles us?
>>80321916
I've managed to cut down to only once a week. Even that feels a lot better, and once you reduce it you will actually feel the difference in your energy level
>>80321499
And I told you why we dont need evidence and logic, but passion and life force. I know you will argue, but reason is not the force that moves the world. Humans are pasional beings, at the end they are moved by emotions and impulses.
I am 30 years old, I have two degrees, and I know your arguments. I thought like you years ago. But it doesn't work like that. You are not going to believe me, but if you are an intelligent person, you will come to the same conclusion.
>>80322060
the social engineers over at 4chan.org
So what are you going to do stop porn and replace it with browsing the web, listening to music, watching movies, playing video games or do other things to release dopamine and feel good
Because if so there is no point, if you have problems in your life you should fix the problems not worry about no fap or it's effects, so either embrace it and stop bitching about how porn is ruining your life or change and replace your addictive patterns with more productive patterns
>>80322097
Thanks. I'll try to start with that.
>>80321808
I don't understand how this isn't getting through. I've said multiple time I subscribe to these ideas, it's in each of my comments.
My problem with the presentation. that's is to say, most evangelist are untactful autists who are going to bash others over the head with da jooos, driving them away and gaining scorn from average people, instead employing a slow conversion. Seriously, read a book on subversion or how humans conceive of and maintain beliefs.
>>80318313
I'm surprised anyone on /pol/ would make a weird al reference, even if the goal is to call OP crazy
Four years free of CP on August 2nd, actually.
>>80322329
Porn harms you. Just quit. It's all I can say.
>>80322352
>UGH, EDUCATE YOURSELF
Sometimes you have to call a spade a spade. Kikes are destroying the fucking world. The more people who realize this the better.
>>80322334
Only fap after you have accomplished something major.
That's how I started, I fapped after finishing an exam or hard school project. See it as a reward for effort.
>>80322457
While I do agree with you in that porn is harmful, giving the internet a free pass will not work.
>>80322544
This guy too has the right idea.
>>80319015
degenerate druggie
>>80321309
It's still watching a flat screen and your brain that memorizes that whenever you see hot chick on screen=diamonds, in real life? You'd be lucky to get it up.
Pied is the no.1 cause of ED.
No fap is bullshit but you can still masturbate but you shouldn't watch porn, it just programs your muscle memory to react in a certain way, like being able to strum a guitar or touch type without looking.
>>80322334
>>80322544
You don't have to stop masturbation. Quit porn radically, and masturbate everyday if you need, but don't watch porn.
>>80322654
I can't help them with everything. If they have enough will to stop watching porn, then they have enough will to find the truth by themselves too.
>>80322694
At this point the fantasies in your head are all from porn.
I see the end goal as completely erasing all sexual memories developed from it. Otherwise you're just playing porn in your head. I imagine it is different for someone with a lot of actual memories of partners
>>80322457
I did for a month, nothing changed obviously because all I did was stop porn and still was doing everything else the same.
At best it's going to have a placebo effect, that being said placebos can be very effective. Placebos are know to work in many different situations, you are just fooling yourself and it's working.
But if fooling yourself resulted you in being more productive and fixing your real problems then good job I guess
>>80314243
I have a sexy fiancee and I only fap to hentai.
Real women being sluts kills my boner.
>tfw corruption fetish
>tfw only hentai does it well
>>80314243
The only media I consume is porn.
Praise the bigdick jews
>>80318541
What the fucking fuck man, what country is this from.
>80322133
Emotion is what you appeal to when presenting the argument, but refusing to provided evidence as an underlying frame work makes no sense.
I agree, it isn't. I agree that emotions and impulse are what moves them, and logic would assist in determining what methods are most effective. I am arguing that what you feel is a convincing emotional appeal really just elicits dismissal.
>>80321577
You're misinformed by the reddit no fap idiots, you shouldn't suffer, you need to reprogram your muscle memory to be able to fap without porn. When the real thing comes it will be easier for you to get aroused.
I'm not against pornography in principle, but the porn industry is terrible. A highly regulated porn industry that encouraged healthy sexual behavior is very desirable.
>>80323205
I've found that takes at least a few weeks without either. Otherwise you're just using fantasies from porn you have recorded in memory. It's better to go completely celibate for a while then I'm actually getting hard for real life women again.
>>80321916
Abstain for a week and then fap without porn, use your memories of real life girls as aids rather than memories of porn actors.
>>80322854
Porn disrupts your sexual behavior and your hormonal system. Drugs destroy your body. If you quit drugs, your life is not going to be wonderful, but at least it will be a first step, and the most important thing: You are not dependant on those who sell it to you. In the case of porn: The jews, who do it with the purpuose of destroying your kind.
So stop thinking about "my life" "my habits" "myself" my my my. It's not about you as an individual, it's about you being part of something bigger than you, and healing yourself as you would heal a cancerours cell.
Speaking of porn, how can I clear my recommended videos shit on Pornhub? I accidentally clicked on a video, and since then I've been getting a bunch of interracial shit on there. It's not like I use the recommended videos thing or anything, and I actually want to quit porn anyway, but it's just the idea of it being there that bothers me. I've clicked on the "clear recommended videos" or whatever thing, but that doesn't do anything.
Sorry, but this has been bothering me all day.
>>80322442
where would a person obtain such things
>>80322520
>The more people who realize this the better.
If this is your priority, why wouldn't you want to use the most effective methods? Please remember, I also want to spread these ideals, but when the target has had an experience with someone really incompetent it can make the job much harder in the future.
>>80322668
wot m8?
it's the opposite for me. if I'm watching porn I can get it up much easier irl
if I'm not masturbating too much, it's harder to get it up
the most important thing is, I know porn is fantasy, and I know how to distinguish fantasy from reality. you can't be programmed of something you're aware is trying to program you
>>80314243
I agree with you, Original Poster. If you consume internet pornography then you are basically a participant to virtual prostitution. There is a demand that exists for pornography that allows this economy to exist, it is absolutely mind blowing as to how much pornography has been produced and is continued to be produced and consumed.
One can understand why it exists, and it is because it's an outlet for sexual tensions that is available for everyone. Mostly those who are not able to compete on the sexual market, but even those who can. It's instant gratification, there is no rejection involved. But it's absolutely pervasive because it affects our perceptions of what sex is and it affects how we ultimately behave. It's difficult to go without pornography because sex is all around. It's also pretty much an open secret that all males look at pornography and masturbate.
I don't know what can be done about it, there are a lot of things in this world that are fucked up and pornography and its effects are just another aspect in the end. The overall problem is media, and pornography falls under this category. It's making people more disconnected than ever from their immediate surroundings and unable to relate to each other and you can see what's happening if you look around. People are sad, discontent and killing themselves or others.
This is what Kaczynski said would happen, though he probably was focusing on other aspects of technology. But you can't blow it all up and destroy everything. That is never going to work. What people need to do is voluntarily withdraw from it all. Watching films about the lives of others, playing games where the goal is to kill other individuals, reading mindless mystery books. But it's not easy. By doing that you start to live in another dimension of reality because when you look around people are still looking at the screen of their phone, their television, or computer.
Let's not kid ourselves. That's what we're doing.
Guys, I haven't the willpower to stop fapping, but I need to so I can regain control of my life. The problem is I love the porn "treasure hunt" and have collected some amazingly hot stuff. Nearly all of it homemade amateur or webcams. The problem is my fantasies are taking over my life. I saw a pretty, petite girl the other day and my first thought was "I'd love to see her plowed by a big cock." This is clearly an unhealthy sexual mindset, but I can't abstain from fapping for more than a few days. The only way I can think to break the cycle is to literally break my hand. That or some sort of sex drive killing drug. What extreme measures can I take to last 90 days?
>>80323181
>>80322133
Link failure.
>>80323549
Don't do it Anon. It feels nice for five minutes and then days of shame, not to mention the paranoia and you'll feel weird when you see the little ones. Just stick to lolicon.
>>80323325
Yes agreed, this was what i was getting at.
>>80323812
This really scares me as a computer programmer
it makes me realize I'm really not much different than a pornographer. I'm just making new ways in which people can distance themselves from reality.
I think , I'd love to teach myself how to farm and go off grid and be more self sufficient, but guess how I learn how to do this: by watching other do it on the Internet. I can't go ask an older member of the community to actually teach me.
Even in trying to leave the system I am using the system
>>80314243
>not reading fucked up erotica instead
I have imagined things you could not begin to comprehend.
>>80323475
How was your sexual behavior and your hormonal system disrupted when you were fapping to porn, to me it seems normal that you get a hard on and want to jerk one out when you see a pretty lady.
The first step is finding a purpose and meaning so you can work towards that instead of jerking one of and feeling good or shooting up some durgs and feeling gud. Even if you stop and still have no meaning or purpose you will be almost guaranteed to fall back in addictive behavior
>>80324370
My favorite literotica:
literotica.com/s/finding-my-place-1
>>80323801
My points are applicable if you can't get it up without porn, that mean's you have an addiction to it as you're already programmed to react in that certain way.
> masturbate for peace
> severe form of control
> there is no G*d
>>80324432
Not everyone is the same
Some people are susceptible to different forms of degeneracy than others. There is a sexual extreme for almost everything online, some people fall too far down the rabbit hole
You sound very normie, I envy you
>>80324648
I have this problem
How can I fix it? Is it hard to get a viagra prescription? Will it fix it?
>>80318541
>>80323549
V& incoming
>>80324811
the guy who posted that was probably an FBI agent
what if I just fap to sexy feets?
>>80323871
Stop fapping entirely is basically quiting male sexuality entirely, you can still fap but not to porn, just abstain till you're busting. But stop watching porn to get aroused, use memories of real girls.
When the real deal happens, it will be easier.
>>80318266
Do jews give me wet dreams with control??
It's as much of a disruption as jerking off
>>80324669
I'm not, it's 6am here and I'm posting on chan and have yet to sleep
I went down that rabbit hole and came back, now I fap to normal stuff again. Maybe it is just inevitable that some people like crazy extreme stuff. Even though I watched trap, furry even beastuality before I never really continued to watch it for long periods of time and always went back to normal porn instead. Why do some stick to more extreme porn? maybe because they are just wired to like that, I've watched plenty of porn but still I'm not into anything extreme
>>80324177
Just wait until virtual reality becomes mainstream, which will probably be around the time the film version of Ready Player One comes out. It's being directed by (((Spielberg))) and it's going to have high production standards. A showcase to the masses on how to disconnect.
You can't really escape the system. You can choose to not identify with it, limit your exposure to it, and learn how to be content not doing anything. It's possible, but it's difficult to compete with all the streams of novel entertainment available to us instantly. Though the the analysis of the situation done by Kaczynski was mostly correct he was absolutely delusional in believing that the system could be brought down. It's a difficult pill to swallow and some people don't want to settle for apathy.
Unfortunately the world of the future is going to be more fucked up than any of us can comprehend or would even want to comprehend. Technology will bring wonders but also with it a miserable slavery of the mind.
2 days without porn now. It's a real addiction, don't let it control you. Understand the triggers, and avoid them.
I doubt the porn I enjoy has anything to do with that
>>80324774
Abstain till you;
1. Have a sexual dream, or a wet dream.
2. Go crazy
When you do masturbate, don't do it to porn, use your memories of real life girls, stick to this and you'll replace your porn addiction to a rythmic release of sexual tension when you need it, which would be 3 or 2 times a week.
When you actually have a chance to do the real thing your brain will allow you to more easily be aroused by the real thing.
Always remember, masturbation is a natural tendency, pornography is a (((man made))) technology.
>>80325382
VR is interesting becuase in a way it could be seen as less fucked than screen based entertainment, if it actually replicates all aspects of reality including the negatives and difficulties of real life contact
the problem is that we all know it won't do that.
>>80324942
How will you get it up when faced with the real deal? Ask her to show you her feet? That'll be weird on the first time or a one night stand.
Abstain and then fap without porn.
>>80325617
The internet is also manmade. There is nothing natural about what we are doing right now.
>>80325298
For me it's the opposite, sometimes I will be able to go back to more vanilla stuff but I inevitably get sucked back into the degeneracy
Couldn't get hard when with a girl. Questioned myself if I was gay or bi, fooled around with a guy and couldn't get hard either.
>>80314243
I really doubt my horse porn and /aco/ and /h/ have anything to do with being related to nationalism
http://yourbrainonporn.com/
Porn is sick in the way that it allows you unlike a lot of other addictions to be in full denial that it has any negative consequences.
It's so easy to just rationalize "oh everyone does it, it's completely normal and healthy".
Fapping to porn on a daily basis is just as bad as being obese.
>>80324954
Have had one partner. Though she was Asian and not "much" there is way of tits and ass to fap about. Have fapped at the "validation" though.
>>80325476
You gotta be offline for no-porn to properly work.
>>80326008
it's like using 4chan daily, really.
>>80319013
>Instant gratification
Jesus Christ this is it. Our society is being consumed by hedonism and materialism. Our children if not ourselves will be chanting "orgy porgy" soon enough.
I watch pornography once every week or so. How do I stop for good?
>>80314243
>it's a schizo forgets his meds episode
>>80318541
it just keeps going
>>80326291
honestly, give up 4chan.
>>80325643
I'm absolutely certain it won't do that. Could we have reasonably predicted the effects of the printing press? Radio? Television? The internet?
Virtual reality is indeed interesting, if you haven't read Ready Player One I would suggest checking it out. Except for the meaningless references (which it kind of makes fun of) and some cringe worthy moments, it is an entertaining book that explores the possible applications of virtual reality technology.
That being said, with virtual reality many people will be connected so deeply into the "system" that they really, really won't be able to interact with other people in any meaningful way. It's basically going to create a generation of autists that will make us look well adjusted.
>>80325837
That's a non-sequiter, just because the internet is man made doesn't mean it disinterests male desire for real women, it's the content of the internet that matters; not the connectivity.
I predict that the internet will be the reason marxist NWO won't win. It's too easy to find truth, too hard to propagandize on the internet, instead of 4 corporate entities owning thousands of channels it's thousands of people with their own channel that can reach billions of people.
And lastly, it allows me to tell you about the problem with porn.
>>80314243
I've had this thought before, but I just don't see any evidence to support it. Even the most fringe people like Chomsky have never claimed such a conspiracy to exist.
Yes, porn affects you negatively in terms of how intensely you experience real sex, but that's about as far as its harm extends.
>>80318644
Look up the phenomenon of 'glocalisation' (portmanteau of globalization and localization)
You might be surprised about some of the paradoxes that globalization causes.
>>80326291
honestly, you can just quit porn by sheer willpower, but to truly quit instant gratification you have to change your whole lifestyle to not require a PC or internet
>>80319392
What is edging?
>>80325914
Did you feel at ease when you were with the girl or guy? If so then maybe it might have to do with porn use and giving you some erectile problem
If not maybe because you worry about it to much or are overly conscious about your preferences?
As long as you're not hurting anyone and doing it with consent and privacy I don't wouldn't see it as degeneracy
>>80318081
Porn addiction is easily curable with no longer being a teenager.
>>80325914
I had the same fate, was a virgin and fooled around for the first time, didn't get it up - was addicted to porn - but the more times i had chances to get laid, the less porn i watched and the more hard i could get to finally have successful intercourse.
Trust me mate, it's the porn.
>>I predict that the internet will be the reason marxist NWO won't win.
LOL that's exactly how they DID win.
learning the truth on the Net just renders you powerless and pacified by information overload, so they win either way
>>80326291
The internet has too many triggers. There's so much sexual imagery in everything, just going on any website can be too much for me. When I nofap, I unplug my PC and avoid ALL media. If someone turns me on so much IRL that I have to fap that night, so be it, and you can bet your ass I won't need porn at that point. But just a few minutes on 4chan and I've seen more than enough to get the ball rolling. Same for most any website (youtube?) So the internet is a no-go for no-fap.
>>80318989
What about lesbian?
Porn/Pornography probably does desensitize you to sex. To be honest we human beings don't really know anything about ourselves. Everyday scientists are discovering new things that surprise us. Maybe all that fapping is harmful to your mind/soul/or something?!?! I guess if you want to live like a perfect human being 10/10;increase your life expectancy,meditate,draw paintings,improve your self as a person you'd probably not be watching porn. Me personally if i could leave the shitty life im living now. I'd go travel around the world learn many different languages,see different sites,see different stars under different skys,and try to find new knowledge and a reason why im existing on this earth. I can't have been born/brought to this existence for nothing right?
>>80326558
good book on that "If Mayors Ruled the World." I read it on recommendation from The Economist.
>>80314243
I quit smoking cigarettes and drinking liquor, but I'll be damned if I give up my porn or my weed
>>80326687
I find it incredibly sad that I spent a majority of my teenage years just fapping to porn. Especially since it probably could have prevented my social anxiety and depression, or at least reduced it considerably.
>>80326519
>That's a non-sequiter, just because the internet is man made doesn't mean it disinterests male desire for real women
Look at MGTOW, look at /r9k/. It very much does reduce desire. The internet has a lot of good, yes, but the cons outweigh the pros for the vast majority.
>>80326687
>low test
>>80326614
I get bad anxiety and other various neuroses, no confidence, bad body image, low self esteem
I want to get a prostitute and finally lose my virginity but I just worry I will be too nervous and stressed out to perform
>>80326743
I'm going to keep trying. It's telling how caustic porn addiction is when there is an epidemic of young males in their physical prime with ED problems. How long did it take you for your dick to start working normally again?
>>80327030
it's a lot harder when you're bona-fide autistic (i.e. even before porn or internet)
>>80326687
not true
>>80314243
It's hard for me to stop. I don't have the willpower to stop being degenerate.
>>80327102
better to be an outgoing happy autist than a shut-in, anxious, depressed one
>>80326610
Purposefully blue balling yourself(looking and porn or masturbating without ejaculating and experiencing an orgasm).
I don't known why anyone would make themselves suffer like that.
>>80327030
I don't find it sad. I fucking loved every minute of it. I even made sure to make a mental note for my future self that if I ever regret it, I should just try to remember how fucking amazing it was at the time.
>>80326523
Jews use it for subversion anon
That's a fact
>>80323504
delete cookies?
>>80326484
>>80326577
>>80326827
I figured this much. I've been trying to get into reading again and have started spending less time here. I've learned a lot from coming here that will probably help me in the future.
Pic related is part of Unabomber's reading list if you anons are interested
>>80327631
Maybe in the sense that all entertainment is used to placate the masses, then I agree. But it is no better or worse than movies, and even this very board.
>>80326763
3 steps to revolution:
Idea virus - an ideology going viral and spreading to all facests of society
Civil disobediance - an outcry to stop what (((they))) are doing
Rebellion - actual civil war. We'll have a low chance to get here but done right the civil disobediance is enough to topple eve the mightiest (((entities)))
>>80327162
I'm sure there are some exceptions, but I'm sure it's true for most.
>>80327799
Yes, this revolution rhetoric itself is precisely what Marxists use to foment controlled revolutions.
I'd be careful thinking this new "internet revolution" is any less manufactured.
>>80327048
Again; that's the content of the internet, not the internet's ability to be bullet proof to tyrants and their fascad.
>>80327075
Your anxiety and lack of confidence seems like more than a problem than porn or your preferences in porn
People always look for reason to why things aren't working, it's easier to point the problem at porn, video games, etc than at anxiety and no confidence, which are much more personal and harder to understand. Maybe you are just seeking porn and other addictive things to cope with your low self esteem. Just stopping it isn't going to work, instead you need to find ways to boost your confidence and cope with your anxiety in ways that don't involve escapism
That being said I myself am bad at this as well, for most of my childhood I have dealt with things through escapism and am still stuck in the cycle today
>>80327075
You can do it mate, u just gotta believe in urself.
>>80314243
I do occasionally, not nearly as much I used to.
I'm 26 now and no gf, I put my decrease in porn viewing down to a diminishing sex drive
>>80314243
I make porn breh, get with the times its 2016 ffs
>>80328036
One should still limit their consumption of it though, ultimately.
As for porn, I guess for me this makes Day 1 of NoPorn. Yesterday I viewed it but found an unpleasant, almost like a hangover effect when I woke up today. And really this has happened everytime with me when I watch porn before falling asleep.
>>80327075
Regarding your question.
It took me about 3 tries, stopping porn and then getting it in her vajajay, everyone is different and has differing sexual thresholds, but i believe you can do the same.
I ended up fucking the same chick another 5 times.
>>80328371
That's how I feel with leaving /pol/
it's an even worse withdrawal than porn
>>80318081
Agree. The internet has amplified every societal ill, and is creating even more.
>>80328371
Switch from porn to just amateur webcam girls, beating off to women beating off seems rather normal to me
>>80328466
Honestly /pol/ would be better if it were a simple messageboard without any imagery or ads. At that point I could rationalize that moderate use of this site (rather than hours at a time) is justifiable.
>>80328082
>That being said I myself am bad at this as well, for most of my childhood I have dealt with things through escapism and am still stuck in the cycle today
Yep this is me. Have a terrible case of addictive personality due to it. When my parents split up at 8 I retreated completely into video games. No wonder I still find video games more pleasurable than human interaction. I have no idea how to cure myself of this. Or my social anxiety and inferiority complex.
The only thing that seems to work a bit is getting addicted to going to the gym.
>>80314243
I'm porn clean for 3 weeks.
I started my first nofap 3 weeks ago, after 25 years of masturbating at least a few times every week.
It's like 24/7 being on a caffeine drip with no crash. I feel 10 times the man I was. I don't know if it can last, but it feels pretty amazing.
One piece of advice I would give is that nofap should also be no-fantastize. When the pressure builds, your cock will be on a hair-trigger, and will not even need physical stimulation to explode.
>>80314243
I use hen-tai
>>80327999
That's the good thing about the net, people can always interpret things in their own way and inform everyone else.
It's funny because /pol/ appears to get news before news on the tv does, or any other channels on the net.
>>80328671
I feel like the rubber band wrist trick would work. It worked for me to stop biting my nails. Every time you get an urge just snap the rubber band on your wrist enough to hurt.
>>80327075
First time I fucked was with a incredibly good looking hooker, she was around 40 but looked about 30, amazing body, no fat, no cellulite, tits weren't big but you could cup them in your hands.
I was on pingers, and could not get full bone but it was enough to do the job. However I did not ejaculate due to the pingers, so It was extremely unsatisfying. I still think I'm a virgin because of that.
I just had to suck her tits because I know I probably wouldn't get another chance again.
>>80314243
So stuff that's not porn is okay?
>>80314243
>always found watching other people have sex gross and never jerked off to porn
>finally get a gf and she wants to watch porn with me
>suddenly understand what everyone is talking about about how degenerate porn is as it's all about facials and slapping and spitting and namecalling and rough sex and over the top shitty acting
>realize everyone but me on earth watches this drivel every day and understand why modern sexuality is so fucked
>>80328371
Of course i agree, the internet itself(the connectivity is addicting) but at least the internet servers a purpose of making it harder for establishment. With porn itself, there is no purpose to fullfill - so i'm weighing what is the lesser evil and what is the nessacary evil. But yes it you can be productive and limit it's use or be productive while using it, that's a win.
Good luck on no-porn and go and get laid m8!
>>80328645
You need to cultivate your masculinity to transcend these weak feminine emotions. Centralize on all the best in yourself, and develop a powerful "Frame".
http://www.redpillhandbook.com/
>>80329131
Good point.
>go get laid
It's been nearly two years now. Online dating imo is a garbage heap so I'll let that happen naturally.
>>80328831
It could do. I used it to deal with thoughts that triggered panic attacks.
>>80328645
I feel you brah, solutions would be forcing yourself into social situations on a regular base and being positive and more forgiving towards yourself
But you probably realize this, realizing it is one thing putting it into consistent action is another
>>80328671
Just remember that you can fap just don't do it to porn. As you stated yourself, you feel like you're on constant cofee, that's unhealthy as well mate.
If you can't empty your balls in a girl do it to imagination of real girls until you can.
>>80318973
Why did you stop after 53 days? I've heard you're in the clear after about 2 weeks.
Boredom?
>>80328919
You're on a verge of addiction; no porn fap now will be the direction you should take. Also i agree pingers suck i woke up with sore cheek insides a in prison cell.
>>80318642
This is very true.
>>80318541
Huh, I didn't know Guy Fieri was a /pol/ack
>>80325915
YOU MAY HAVE US BUT YOU'LL NEVER GET OFF THE ISLAND
>>80329429
It's clean energy. I haven't drunk coffee (or even caffeinated tea) in over a year because I realised how unhealthy it was. I'm completely drug and alcohol free.
I have been pretty low energy for years. Nootropics, good diet and exercise worked for me in the past. I get no exercise at the moment, and have a shitty diet; but despite that, I feel better than I've felt in a long time, thanks to nofap (or maybe no-ejaculate).
>>80318973
I'm going for lifetime no-fap, and I'm certain I will achieve it. I think it can be easier to quit something in perpetuity than just for a month at a time.
>>80314243
How come I can't find a legit-looking news source for that story about the Israeli military broadcasting pornography in Gaza or wherever while martial law made sure people stayed in their homes?
>>80329984
planning on having sex or marriage, or full celibacy?
>>80320993
At least he reached out to somebody in a helpful way, you evil eyed bitch.
“Semen constitutes the strength of the body, its life, and the light of the eyes. Its emission to excess causes physical decay, debility, and diminished vitality. Thus Solomon, in his wisdom, says: ‘Do not give your strength to women’ (Proverbs 31:3). Whoever indulges in sexual dissipation becomes prematurely aged; his strength fails; his eyes become dim; a foul odor proceeds from his mouth and armpits; the hair of his head, eyebrows, and eyelashes drop out; the hair of his beard, armpits, and legs grow abnormally; his teeth fall out; and besides these, he becomes subject to numerous other diseases. Medical authorities have stated that for each one who dies of other maladies, a thousand are the victims of sexual excess.”
Be careful goyim.
>>80328671
I prefer nopoop. The extra nutrients you get from letting food "ferment" in the butthole is euphoric.
But to each their own, I guess! Godspeed brother
>>80329846
There is a difference between low energy and a calm mind and composure, if you're constantly tensed by the high energy that not cumming brings, just like chronic sleep depravation, cafene addiction, stress and axiety, you'll eventually crash and i mean crash HARD, the hormones building up inside you are chemicals as well mate.
>quitting the Internet/4chan
Good luck with that famaladingdong
>>80322859
I assume this is edited, but what page is this from?
>>80330335
Are all people born with brown eyes thus the result of sexual addictions and losing semen?
Would that mean that green "aryan" eyes are the pure manifestation of chastity?
>>80330335
also, 99% of orthodox Jews and Muslims look like that description and they claim to be the most chaste
>>80329984
Nah mate don't you eventually give in and feel like shit.
Just no-porn. It's the best way to go. If you can't get it up without porn, abstain till you're busting and then fap without porn.
This isn't an excuse to not go soul mate searching however it will make it easier to relax and be aroused when the real deal happens.
>>80330677
don't try to dissuade him
I think for some, full celibacy is actually a good idea. Many people have done it throughout history and culture has declined as celibacy stopped being given a special vocation.
>>80314243
Last two digits is the number of days I quit porn and modern music.
>>80329101
You're literally me. Stay strong, brother.
>>80319015
Same, except spent 12 of those hours fucking a teenage girl. Ever fuck for 12 hours and then cum? Holy Christ. Meth is a hell of a drug.
>>80318541
I guarantee you that is some Mexican shit right there.
Living here in Texas, I see all sorts of Pedros putting every condiment known to man on shitty food. Thats how they grew up. And they put extra shit on everything. Disgusting
The fattest woman in the world is a Mexican living in Brownsville, TX. And she's a murderer, just like the rest.
>>80327623
kill yourself
>>80314243
This reminds me
time to jerk it
>>80330579
No idea, I just know that my eyes have more glow in them when I don't waste my precious bodily fluids.
what about reading erotic stories? on viagra?
>>80326291
I can't believe that to all these questions of how one stops, there has not yet been the most effective method. Truly, we are doomed for it is only by straying from God that a man may sink so low as to develop anew addiction to the vile filth that is pornography. How do you stop? By praying with sincerity for the eradication of the disease in your heart; by repenting to God and recalling what am offense to divine law it is to commit such a sin. As others have said, it disconnects you from reality, but that is favorable in contrast to a disconnection from God.
>>80332408
>I can't believe that to all these questions of how one stops, there has not yet been the most effective method.
Honestly at this point you'd really need to go Amish.
>>80326291
Brave New World is inevitable. Having a strict and repetitive social structure and state directed meaning is what the aspie masses want. How many of us here want a strong nationalistic government? how many aspie's are so far out there mentally they wouldent get laid unless group sex was culturally mandated? honetly? we already know what we are. the question now is to what degree.
>>80333906
the irony though is that some of what you're saying was also a regression to the past.
a lot of BNW was derived from the Hindu caste system , arranged marriage etc just mixed with modern degeneracy
>>80333906
also I reject the premise that statism = degeneracy
you seem to be implying that a lot of it wasn't the result of liberalism and individualism, and now it's just regressing because everyone knows that isn't sustainable.
>>80314243
I mostly watch amateur porn. Are these random girls and guys trying to control my mind with their Jewish fucking?
>>80333803
The most effective method is to make a vow to God and sacrifice those desires to Him. For an atheist, nofap or noporn would be... difficult.
You can still have sex.
Be the porn you want to see in the world.
>>80333906
contd.
I think what you're missing is that there's nothing inherently wrong with culturally mandated things.
The issue is that we're going back to ancient-world like submission to government, but WITHOUT any of the spiritual components.
Instead of these things being mandated by the family (see: courtship with parents involved) they are done impersonally by corporations, universities, bureaucracy
With liberal individualism the masses were divorced from natural healthy social mandates, now with this new hivemind collectivism they now desire the same things they abandoned, but from our controllers instead of their own people
>>80332119
Lol that is some beyond shit.
Does anyone have one of those charts with the iceberg deep web 4chan shit?
>>80334483
I know you'll probably just get called a Christfag, but somehow I'm in inclined to agree with this. Even despite not being religious myself.
>>80334176
And they had to use symbolism like the cross of Ford's model t in leu of the christian cross. i don't see a social structure where there isn't some allusion to "spirituality".
dont remember any arranged marriage. or the concept of marriage being common at all in BNW. the words Mother and Father were considered profanity (oddly in a world where they would not exist. only mentioned at all in order to point the landscape for the reader)
for the majority it isn't possible to live without a few diversions from what can ONLY be logically proven. aspie or not.
Good luck everyone hope you succeed in bettering yourselves.
>>80335271
You as well, take it easy m8.
>>80334789
but are they getting the orgy porgy from their controllers? no. their society is being cultivated by them.
isnt a priesthood or any kind of organized religon a type of hivemind? they are not bound to anything but their own ideals they themselves are bound to. little change if at all.
inability to adapt to new situations. they only grow as much as they can reproduce those who also think the same way. same as the BNW controllers.
>>80335141
When I mentioned arranged marriage I'm talking about actual Hinduism (and really most cultures in the past especially in the east).
In the past we had stricter social structures, but they were closer to natural living. A medieval peasant had a much stricter life with fewer choices than a modern consumer and I don't doubt he was happier.
Like it or not people NEED ritual. I'm disagreeing with your premise that strict social customs are inherently bad to desire. The issue is that we've lost the more organic traditional ritual of the past, and now our controllers are presenting new artificial ones to fill the void.
>>80335271
Thanks m8
>>80334789
culture is not your friend. it can help you and give you things. but in return it puts an identity on you. identity is something we all want. we all want a sense of self. but it is not determined by you. you are owned by the culture. it has to own you. because only thru you, can the culture grow into someone elses head.
>>80335721
You sound like a Marxist cultural critique tard. Critiquing every culture, even the idea of culture as bad without itself ever questioning the culture of critique. Like or not you are NEVER an atomized individual, but part of a culture and you have an identity. Stripping it all away is not possible.
>>80318313
>1 post by this ID
>and it insinuates the OP is crazy without actually proving him wrong
That's enough evidence for me to say that OP is actually on to something.
Don't watch pornography. It's 1). a distraction and 2). used to subconsciously influence your decisions
>>80319076
That's wrong, you can still converse with people and hold discussions, only the medium has changed.
>>80314243
Christcucks who think men need to be repressed like this are really just feminist dipshits helping destroy the west even more.
>>80335618
ritual can be provided. the BLM controllers put allot of effort into honoring the dead. something you see in every other culture.
and im not saying any kind of social structure is inherently bad. except for its premise.
It can only exist in a vacum. it cant be questioned. it cant grow unless the society is explosively torn apart and humans end up rebuilding things almost the same way but with new trimming.
America is a laboratory of culture. We are free to express ourselves here. But all cultures should have the right to be challanged.
remove parenting as a concept. put all children under the power of the state. theya re no longer MY children or YOUR children.
they are simply CHILDREN. who can watch and learn and decide on their own.
>>80335881
and at what point did i say people didnt need it?
im saying people need it very badly. but how its grown must be curtailed.
>>80336188
inb4
"this guy wants me to pay for his kids"
you still have to pay for the children you bring into the world. but they are free from being forced into one culture or another.
>>80336267
>>80336188
OK, this makes sense.
Sorry, I made the wrong assumption that you were saying ALL cultures was as bad as Brave New World and should be abolished. As in, even the idea of marriage and parenting should be removed.
Now I see you're against that (hopefully)
>>80336402
Wait
you actually SUPPORT this idea?
You want the State to raise children directly and parenting abolished?
Or you're just saying this is what our controllers are doing (which is true).
I seriously hope you don't mean the former.
>>80314243
I once stopped for four months. It was great but I fell back and I can't get more than a week now every time I think about quitting again.
