>recently got The Republic, The Prince and The Wealth of Nations
>just placed an order for the core Evola Trilogy (Revolt against the Modern World, Men Among the Ruins, Ride the Tiger)
>looking into buying some Hoppe and McDonald books
What is some essential literature for any serious /pol/lack?
Let's have a red-pilled literature thread.
Ishmael : ^)
Not even kidding, it's some good stuff.
Dude, if you're a serious /pol/ack you will get a copy of the Anarchist's Cookbook and burn that Evola garbage. Those books just tell you what you want to hear. You learn nothing from them. I'm fucking tired of thinkers, be an actor instead. Anders Breivik did more for nationalism in a day than a 100 Evolas could do in a lifetime.
>>80210704
Carl Scmitt is true patrician tier. Read the Concept of the Political, it's short and easy to digest. Then move on to his other stuff like political theology and the theory of the partisan.
anything by Sowell and Friedman
I wouldn't suggest reading evola without having more experience on reading more about fascism, especially in Italy.
I really enjoyed reading Iron Kingdom by Christopher Clark, recently.
If you're really big on history you should give the Will Durant's The Story of Civilization a spin.
>Plato
>not Aristotle
>>80210951
>men cannot think and act at the same time
typical swede, projecting his own inability to act while he watches his women get fucked from the cuck shed
>>80210977
>>80210896
>>80211010
thanks anons, I'll look into that
>>80210704
The Republic was literally just ancient globalism. Adam (((Smith)))
>redpilled
>>80211010
Mussolini's "doctrine of fascism" is a pretty damn good read. Reading that in college started me being red-pilled when a lot of the shit he said made sense.
>>80211039
Not mentioning diagnos
I'm currently reading pic related.
Where does OP get his books?
>>80211448
bol punt com
>>80211169
>diagnos
I assume you mean Diogenes the cynic? The guy who jerked off in public, lived in a bathtub and pissed and shit everywhere? Degenerate philosopher and a degenerate philosophy that reduces man to mere beast.
>>80210704
I ordered a copy of Meditations recently and it never turned up, any anons read it?
>>80211605
You seem to dismiss such a great philosopher friend. Don't dismiss him because of his actions. He made Aristotle and Alexander the great his bitch on many occasions. Also sorry for spelling,On mobil.
>>80211605
>not understanding diogenes way of life
guess you have been completely intoxicated with consumerism
are we talking about philosophy or sociology here? or history of civilization?
pic related
>philosopher who actually has expierenced having power
>>80211778
Incredible advice on how to live a just and truthful life. Has helped me immensely. Highly recommend it.
Lawrence Freedman - Strategy: A History
Frank Dikötter - Mao's Great Famine
Jane Mayer - Dark Money
Mohamed A. El-Erian - The Only Game In Town
Martin Ford - Rise of The Robots
Peter L. Bernstein - Against The Gods: The Remarkable Story of Risk
Michael Hartmann - The Sociology of Elites
George Ainslie - Breakdown of Will
Joyce Appleby - Relentless Revolution: A History of Capitalism
Daniel Yergin - The Prize: The Epic Quest For Oil, Money And Power
Vaclav Smil - Making The Modern World
Sheena Iyengar - The Art of Choosing
>>80213661
Sociology is a mere subset of philosophy
I'd like to think /pol/ would welcome all philosophy
Politics by Aristotle is a pretty good read aswell,if you want an extended analysis of all forms of democracy,oligarchy and monarchy.Also, since you dig into Plato, might aswell read Protagoras, which is basically a debate between Socrates and protagoras about the political virtue, and then virtue in general.But as stated above Diogenes of Sinope was pretty based aswell, and applied cynicism on his everyday life, outwitting everyone, and using really nice wordplay(which is why it's better to read it in greek).
>reading philosophy
I never understood this.
I get history, fiction, politics, etc,
But in my mind, there's nothing more cucked than reading an entire book of someone else's opinions.
Can someone explain the genuine appeal of reading philosophy, or are you just turbo fedoras who just do it because you think it makes you look smart?
>>80213661
U SAYIN WE WUZ EMPERAZ AN SHIET
>>80214555
>implying you accept any of the others opinions without any reflection
>>80210704
Read The Theory of Moral Sentiments before The Wealth of Nations.
>>80213424
Nope, I've just been intoxicated with the feeling of not being an edgy faggot. Wow this guy says we should be like dogs and piss in the streets, what a enlightened chap. He is openly hostile to all the principles that underpin human civilization.
>>80210704
Incidentally, I'm having a bitch of a time finding a paper or electronic copy of The Outlaws. Can anyone help?
>>80214555
>I get reading politics
>I don't understand reading philosophy
But politics is philosophy
>>80210704
>The Wealth of Nations
Don't read the whole thing. Just read the condensed version.
He talks about dogs and shit for like 10 pages in the first volume. Even then, so much work has been done in economics since him, you might as well read Jevons or something.
>>80214704
>He is openly hostile to all the principles that underpin human civilization.
Only the ones which exist in opposition to the natural order. He was like a Stoic minus the SJW shit.
>>80210704
>Hoppe
>>80210704
The Meditations of Marcus Aurileas
>>80214555
Holy shit what do you think you are doing on pol? Reading other peoples opinions.
Its not cucked to read what the greatest minds in history thought and reflect on it. Its that very act of rational reflection that makes western civilization so successful and worth fighting for.
>>80210704
I had a test about the 19th century 2 hour ago. If you want to know about economic and workers situation then read the Communist Manifest and afterwards read the letter from Alfred Krupp to his workers.
>>80210951
>Anarchist's Cookbook
CIA trash. Have fun blowing your hand off because you don't understand basic chemistry.
>>80215117
Actually put the Communist Manifesto on my to buy list today. Looks like a neat read
>>80214908
all human principles exist within the natural order because humans are part of that order. these principles are often extensions of naturally selected for pro-social behaviors.
>>80210704
Good going fellow Dutchbro, here are my tips:
>Kamp Der Heiligen through the flemmish publisher Egmont to support Vlaams Belang
>Why we Fight - Guillame Faye
>Generation Identity A Declaration Of War Against the 68'ers - Markus Willinger
>Against Democracy and equality: the european new right - Tomislav Tunic
Anyone got any books tips on the dark enlightenment?
>>80215147
yeah, why make bombs when we can just walk into walmart and buy a machine gun?
>>80210704
>looking into buying
There are people who actually pay for books?
>>80215007
I will never forgive /pol/ for shilling this and getting me to read it.
Self help trash, and even fails at that. Repetitive, contradicts himself numerous times, and incredibly incredibly bluepilled opinions on pretty much everything.
>dude life is meaningless, so don't try to better yourself
>you can totally trust me, i'm the most powerful man in the world trying to expand my empire
>>80215401
Yes, I can't read them on a screen.
Besides it makes bitches moist too
>>80215276
>all human principles exist within the natural order I didn't say outside. I said in opposition to. There may be a natural impulse toward denying sexual dimorphism, but that doesn't mean the trannies are correct or should be tolerated.
>>80216079
>>all human principles exist within the natural order
*I didn't say outside. I said in opposition to. There may be a natural impulse toward denying sexual dimorphism, but that doesn't mean the trannies are correct or should be tolerated.
Evola is trash, read Stirner.
>>80215262
It is interesting but after reading it you can see all the flaws and why it can't work in modern times. Marx wanted to do a lot of good, workers conditions were really horrible back then but he didn't predict that Capitalism can actually benefit the worker in a way that the employer would actually help his people.
http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/pdf/eng/211_Krupp%20Address%20to%20Employees_29.pdf
I recommend reading this
>>80216132
I don't think diogenes would mind trannies. Of course murder and shit is also natural but that is my point. All human actions are natural, so we must suppress those actions (like jerking off in public) that don't contribute to the health of a people.
>>80216220
mah spooks
>>80216220
Stirner is a forced meme and the epitome of nihilism. Decrying the nation, family, and religion as spooks is the most blue-pilled thing ever.
Marcus Aurelius wrote just like an old man talks. There's a lot of great stuff in there, its just that he repeats himself OVER AND OVER AND OVER. I honestly can't read more than about six pages because it's a lot to digest.
I'd recommend the Enchiridion by Epictetus if you kinda want the tl;dr primer on stoicism.
>>80217778
reply to >>80211778
>>80216631
That's why I want to read it. It'd be good to be able to see the reasoning behind various ideas for good or bad.
Economics in one lesson- Henry Hazlitt
Man economy and state - Murray rothbard
>>80217778
the problem with stoicism is that it leads you to complacency, and to accept things merely as they are rather than seek power and try to control them. I've noticed this with most literature about meditation too. going down the track of self-improvement and settling with stoicism is like learning how to cook but making just pasta. you'll be fine, you'll live, you'll never go hungry or hate what you're eating, but there is better out there and if you don't get it, someone else will.
I'd just like to make a point about certain posters here.
Let's examine the following posts:
>>80210951
>Evola garbage
>>80211085
>The Republic was literally just ancient globalism. Adam (((Smith)))
>>80211605
>Degenerate philosopher and a degenerate philosophy that reduces man to mere beast.
>>80214555
>are you just turbo fedoras who just do it because you think it makes you look smart?
>>80214828
>so much work has been done in economics since him, you might as well read Jevons or something.
>>80215147
>CIA trash
>>80215414
>Self help trash
>>80216220
>Evola is trash
These are obviously not well thought out intellectual stances, but a mere figurative diarrhea produced by mindlessly slamming ones face into a keyboard in the hopes of producing something semi-intelligible.
Philosophy is not about only reading good ideas, it's about reading interesting ideas that help broaden ones mind.
Let's turn to some, let's say, more developed posters:
>>80211010
>I wouldn't suggest reading evola without having more experience on reading more about fascism, especially in Italy.
>>80211924
>You seem to dismiss such a great philosopher friend.
>>80213661
>>philosopher who actually has expierenced having power
>>80214330
>this entire post
>>80214692
>Read The Theory of Moral Sentiments before The Wealth of Nations.
>>80215117
>>80215262
>>80216631
>>80218516
>this entire dialogue
>>80217778
>There's a lot of great stuff in there
>I'd recommend the Enchiridion by Epictetus if you kinda want the tl;dr primer on stoicism.
As we can see, they do not simply judge writings, ideas and authors, they explain why they are interesting and even give tips as to how these books would be optimally read for the best understanding of the works.
And of course
>>80215469
>it makes bitches moist too
My kind of philosophy right here
>>80217778
It's just a bad book. It's one of the few books that I had to struggle to get through, even though it's only 100 pages long.
He said that great men like Alexander and Caesar are ultimately forgotten and meaningless in the grand scheme of the universe.
Meanwhile, he was writing this as he was on a campaign to try and achieve the same glory that they did.
He's a hypocrite and his opinion should be discarded.
So I don't know who he was trying convince. Other people or himself.
>>80219235
My kind of autism right here.
>>80219519
If you have no interest in philosophy and philosophical literature, then there is not a single reason for you to be in this thread. There is not a single reason for you to respond to any of these posts.
So why are you here, anon?
>>80218928
I agree that it can be interpreted like that. Honestly it is best used as armor against misfortune and things that you cannot control. Use it as a tool to cut through bullshit and see things a bit clearer.
>>80219658
I like books.
>>80218928
>an italian not content with just pasta
You're not worth the flag you carry, scum
anyone can recommend some great poetry from ancient rome?
What are some good places to get audio books? I listen at work but I'm running out of material to fill my day with
>>80210704
Get leviathan dude
decline and fall of the Roman empire
1984, Animal Farm and Brave New World come to mind
Nothing makes me laugh harder than NEETs talking about self-improvement and "bettering themselves" via philosophy.
get a job faggots
>>80216631
The only thing marx couldnt predict was the prominence of mass media
His idea that socialism would arise in reaction to capitalism was not incorrect
Beyond Good and Evil and the Genealogy of Morality are core works of any political/philosophical education.
>>80210704
Mein Kampf.
>how was this not posted yet
>>80211605
Yes , Diogenes the Cynic
>Diogenes made a virtue of poverty. He begged for a living and often slept in a large ceramic jar in the marketplace
>He became notorious for his philosophical stunts such as carrying a lamp in the daytime, claiming to be looking for an honest man
>He criticized and embarrassed Plato, disputed his interpretation of Socrates and sabotaged his lectures, sometimes distracting attendees by bringing food and eating during the discussions
>Diogenes arrived in Athens with a slave named Manes who abandoned him shortly thereafter. With characteristic humor, Diogenes dismissed his ill fortune by saying, "If Manes can live without Diogenes, why not Diogenes without Manes?"
>When Plato gave Socrates's definition of man as "featherless bipeds" and was much praised for the definition, Diogenes plucked a chicken and brought it into Plato's Academy, saying, "Behold! I've brought you a man."
>Plato was discoursing on his theory of ideas and, pointing to the cups on the table before him, said while there are many cups in
the world, there is only one ‘idea’ of a cup, and this cupness precedes the existence of all particular cups.
>“I can see the cup on the table,” interrupted Diogenes, “but I can’t see the ‘cupness’.”
>"That's because you have the eyes to see the cup," said Plato, "but", tapping his head with his forefinger, "you don't have the intellect
with which to comprehend ‘cupness’.”
>Diogenes walked up to the table, examined a cup and, looking inside, asked, "Is it empty?"
>Plato nodded.
>“Where is the ‘emptiness’ which precedes this empty cup?” asked Diogenes.
>Plato allowed himself a few moments to collect his thoughts, but Diogenes reached over and, tapping Plato's head with his finger,
said “I think you will find here is the ‘emptiness’.”
>>80225373
>“I think you will find here is the ‘emptiness’.”
Diogenes bringing the bants.
