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lel, le supreme US of foking A, can't produce a simple thing like pic related.

>muh gunz, muh freedumbz

fatburgers can't into orbit without ruskies
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https://www.k-var.com/shop/skin1/pages/US/Articles/Muzzle_Brake/article01.html
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what am i looking at?
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>>80088449
>>>/k/
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>>80088449
What is so impressive here??
Also, we got into space because we stole Nazi scientist and made them build us rockets.
Russia was a commie leach hellhole up until recently. So let's not talk about who relies on whom for what.
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>>80088746
>what am i looking at?

that are usually the last words...
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>>80088982
>Russia was a commie leach hellhole up until recently. So let's not talk about who relies on whom for what.

true, true. but this design was lightyears ahead of murifat weapon industry. AK-74 is the best assault rifle on the planet.
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>>80089398
>rock in mags
>no ability for the barrel to freefloat
>straightness of the entire gun is determined by how straight the trunnion is riveted to a thin sheet metal box
>the trigger group is both held in and operated by a flimsy guitar string wound tightly around itself and woven throughout the receiver barely resting on indents in the trigger pins, and if it slips off, the trigger falls out the bottom of the receiver

Take it from someone who has assembled AKs from parts kits, they fucking suck.
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>>80089398
>AK-74 is the best assault rifle on the planet.
top kek

I bet you haven't even held a firearm before.
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>>80090718
I bet you held your hands up too many times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtTvN7SDmXk
@6:59
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>>80090468
Good luck damaging russian military AK.

>be me
>serving in army
>drop AK from a fucking cliff 30m height
>rifle is perfectly okay (but lost the ramrod)
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>>80091006
>rifle is perfectly okay (but lost the ramrod)

I lost the cleaning rod for mine when I moved apartments last year. Of all fucking things, those are impossible to find on the interwebs.
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>>80088449
What do you mean? We've got them, too. They just look different.
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>>80091006
thank you for your cervix
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We don't need chrome lined muzzle brakes because we don't shoot corrosive ammo.
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>flash hider that conceals your positon
or
>muzzle brake that gives off a giant flash that attracts machine gun bullets

this is why your military is shit tier

>nb4muhfullautofire

country so pleb you cant teach proper rifle marksmanship
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>>80091292
that is a different thing. i'm not saying it is shit, but ak74 muzzle brake is more than just a muzzle brake.
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>>80090468
>straightness of the entire gun is determined by how straight the trunnion is riveted to a thin sheet metal box
Milled receiver master race

>AKs from parts kits
Being this poorfag

If they suck so bad why did you purchase and build more than one?
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>>80091591
>We hope we don't need chrome lined muzzle brakes because we hope we don't have to shoot corrosive ammo.
Fixed

Murphy is a mother fucker bro
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>>80091591
Fat negroid with amoeba IQ detected
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>>80091798
What else is it then? A bottle opener?
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>>80091591
And buy a fucking sling.

0/10 would not operate with.
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>>80088449
Don't talk about guns until you've actually held one
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>>80090468
>AKs from parts

lel, you can only dream getting original
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>>80092036
Even the steel cased shit is noncorrosive. A $5 A2 flash hider is cheap as fuck to replace.
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>>80092110
https://www.k-var.com/shop/skin1/pages/US/Articles/Muzzle_Brake/article01.html

can't you read anything that is not mcmenu?
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>>80092268
If you don't know how to build a gun just say so. Don't insult people with knowledge just because you don't have it. That's negroid behavior.
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The long arm that a nation fields in their military doesn't matter. Its artillery. Tanks. Planes. Etc etc that determine whether you have control of a battlefield.
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AK107 is master race
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>>80092503
Post a picture of guns you own. Until then keep your mouth shut you noguns faggot
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>>80092670
All i'm saying is that it is utterly hard to obtain original AK74 parts in murifatia. All you can get is shitty texfucko parts or bugarian gypsy shit production and then brag "we have real eastern eu/ruskie parts"

russian AK-74 is the only one

everything else is a scam.
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>>80091591
>fucking carbine length gas system on a 13 rail
>No sling
>no Light
Your saving graces are that SMR and that aimpoint.
9/10 would maybe operate with
(good choices anon)
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>>80092503
I scanned the article. Doesn't answer my question: what else does it do besides be just a muzzle brake?
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>>80092694
So the 14 foot Sarissa didn't subjugate the 8 foot Dory?

It does matter what the infantryman wields. Are your planes, tanks and artillery going to occupy that battlefield? Or is it the infantryman that's actually going to take and occupy territory through his force of arms with SUPPORT(maybe sometimes not always) from the other elements.

Why is the sky blue?
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>>80093330
>Post a picture of guns you own.
I own 0 gunz yo. Don't need any.

we doo nooot huv nignogz here.
uga-bbooga, ggunzaa banga-wanga
pew-pew
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>>80093397
>Croatian explaining to Americans the difficulty involved in buying guns in their country
>A croatian
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>>80089398
It's a completely different weapon than the M-16. America invades shit and has to walk around everywhere so we made our rifles lighter.
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>>80093716
>uga-bbooga, ggunzaa banga-wanga
pew-pew

And it's a shame you don't have any "nig nogs" because it sounds like you'd fit right in with them
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>>80093595
reduced flash and recoil. especially at night. there is something with those zig-zag flash is over 75% less than regular cuts.
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>>80092036
>>80092430
Assuming I can buy a few thousand rounds of non-corrosive 5.56 ammo, when am I going to have to use corrosive ammo?

Even if the world ends, my guns will wear out before I am ever forced to use some shit I have never even seen in the states
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other than an AK-47, whats a good rifle to buy?
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>>80088449

What the Hell are you..........

Oh GODDAMNIT!!!
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>>80088449
The Croatian takes a break from his centuries long buttrape at the hands of the Turk to shitpost about his betters.
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>>80091006
no need to, it comes that way from the factory.
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>>80094076
The AK74 is a pound lighter than the M16 bro. You should really double check your keystrokes before enter.
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>>80088645
>tfw shitty tapco muzzle brake on my AK

At least it makes it sort of look like a 74.
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>>80088449

Failed the ESL class, huh?

Better luck next time.
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>>80094381
M16 would be the logical counterpart
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>>80094519
My math is bad. It's a half lighter. But whatever. It's lighter.
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>>80089398
best gun is not kalashnikov

is moisin nagant
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>>80094508
Easiest fix ever desu senpai. I just held mine down and smacked the front sight tower with a rubber mallet until everything lined up with my laser bore sighter.
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>>80093716
>need
stupid noguns
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>>80094234
Thanks for displaying your actual gun knowledge to us.

Here's something you don't know since you've never had a gun before and did bother to do any reading on anything other than your raifu: the M16 has a big ass buffer and spring built into the butt of the rifle that reduces the recoil. So a muzzle brake is not needed.
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>>80094097
i'm sorry man. we don't need assault rifles here. in what kind of neighborhood you live in that you need a guns? criminals?

for example, if my neighbor tomorrow buys an AK-47 everyone would call police because we will assume that there is something going on in his head, that he became funny, you know, in the head
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>>80094975
>built into the butt
so you're an expert, huh?
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>>80089398
I own a semi-auto copy of AK-74H. It's a decent rifle, but far from the best on the planet
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>>80095086
We don't need nor have assault rifles here either friend. They were banned in 1986.
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>>80094858
This
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>>80094508
I have the same shit on my 74

>>80094909
Such precision, much accurate
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>>80094858
Ah, the rallying cry of American wiggers who can't afford anything more expensive than $200 for both the gun and ammo.

Moist Nuggets are the Hi-Points of rifles
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>>80094909
youre either a liar or fucked up your rifle doing that

that is absolutely not how you fix that issue
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>>80095086
>"we don't need guns here"
Shit that government owned meatbags say
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>>80088449
shots fired
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>>80095816
It worked though. You don't have to believe me, I guess.
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>>80093648

As long as the standard weapon of yhe military is an intermediate caliber assault rifle that remains operable, it doesn't matter. Look up the casultly lists from previous wars.
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>>80091691
Are you daft? A flash hider stops the shooter being blinded, doesn't conceal your position.
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>>80095816
>that is absolutely not how you fix that issue
pls tell me how. I also have misaligned rear sight like picrelated
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>>80096252

Like you'd know you pommy cunt
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>>80096252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f-xdt8Stqc
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>>80095407
Bro we get it you think the AKM-74 is pretty cool. Which it is
>Dem high cap mags bruh
And its got some pretty coll aesthetics. But the AR/M16/M4 have very comparable characteristics when looking at the muzzle brake.
Now if you want to get into /k/ territory you should go there and shitpost about which is better.
But there is nothing revolutionary about that muzzle friend
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>>80095086
>in what kind of neighborhood you live in that you need a guns?

The neighborhood of AMERICA! Because I'm an AMERICAN DAMMIT!! And GUNS are AWESOME!!!

It's a high cultural tradition that eludes your peasant mind. Go back to farming potatoes or whatever it is Croatians do. I need more freedom fries.
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>>80096522
>But there is nothing revolutionary about that muzzle
>>80096450
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>>80096450
holy shit
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>>80089398
>AK-74 is the best assault rifle on the planet.
>not an FN SCAR

I'd tell you to get on my level, but I know you're a slavpoor so that's just impossible
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>>80095407
That must be Croatian for "I have been checkmated"
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>>80093197
Thank fuck for that, someone knows their russ guns. Everyone else was muh ak74. Ak107 has balanced operating system and can take a quad stack mag.
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>>80096728
>He fell for the SCAR meme
How does it feel to have an overpriced piece of shit?
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>>80096450
Impressive
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>>80096252
>>80096416
>flash hider
>Proper british term for it
>"the ol' flash hider, the nobbly bit on the far end of the pew pew bang bang stick"

He is right though.
Its primary intent is to reduce the chances that the shooter will be blinded in low-light shooting conditions. Contrary to popular belief, it is only a minor secondary benefit if a flash suppressor reduces the intensity of the flash visible to the enemy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_suppressor
Army Field Manual FM 3-22
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>>80096557
>high cultural tradition that eludes your peasant mind.


kek, your """""history""""" is 100yo. compared to europe, that is fetus-age.

calm your fat manboobs pilgrim, and remember to cry your self to sleep knowing that the land you are now on is soaked with blood of genocided natives.
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>>80097041
Does your standard ar or mp come with a flash suppressor?
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>>80097117
Oh man, genocided primitives. Yup, I'm really crying myself to sleep over the plight of less advanced humans.
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>>80096349
Yet another Slavaboo who rushed into buying a cheap AK without thoroughly checking it out.

Hint: why do you think it was so cheap? Those shopping for Mosins should also take note.
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>>80096899
>He's never even held a SCAR in his entire life, much less fired one
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>>80097396
that's rude kōhai
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>>80088449
That muzzle brake is specifically designed to compensate for the uneven recoil generated by the AKs action cycling. Hence the seemingly random holes all over the goddamn place. Same reason why slant muzzle brakes are canted to one side.

ARs on the other hand have almost perfectly linear recoil.

I prefer AKs btw (pic related, muh AKs) but you need to fuck off with this retarded example.
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>>80096899
>overpriced piece of shit
That's the phrase that every poorfag says about everything that they can't ever afford. I know you've never seen or touched quality in your entire life, but at least stop and think why would a rifle made on a tight budget be somehow better than a more expensive rifle, made from more expensive and quality materials, and manufactured in a better way.
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>>80097608
Fug, you're right man.
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>>80097523
>Yet another Slavaboo
I'm slav myself

>without thoroughly checking it out
I bought it online because 74s are very rare in my area
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>>80097873
>poorfag
>never touched quality in my life
Fucking Romanian shitskin lol
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>>80097886
Wait does this mean the Scar isn't a meme?

Can it penetrate a tank at 300m?
Is it 0 recoil? Does it clean like a glock? Does it literally never jam?
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>>80097117
You're just jealous that you can't rack up as much of a high score
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>>80096349
its a royal pain in the ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWTQL0fMY80

best option is to pawn it off on a sucker and buy something that isnt shit. youre gonna drop a grand atleast at a gunsmith to get it fixed
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>>80098158
in english, please
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>>80098096
Still a meme tho

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/06/28/socom-abandons-fn-scar-mk-16/
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>>80096349
>Being unable to factor in issues or accounting for them.

I have a fucking Ak-47 and I have none of your bullshit issues, My friends who own Nuggets have no god damn issues either. You just got unlucky or broke it.
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>>80098269
He is insinuating that your genociding skills are low
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>>80098319
I doubt you have an AK47
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>>80088449
>literally every major special operations group in the world that is allowed to choose their own rifle universally chooses the AR
AKs are cool, but objectively outdated.
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>>80098215
Damn Bulgarians
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>>80098215
also you arent gonna get to that point unless you kill your reciever too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON67AFqcLB0

could do this if you have tools
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>>80098215
>latex gloves

DIY for neckbeards who only held their pathetic cocks as a weaboo tool.

fuck off
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>>80097931
>I'm slav myself
Then you should feel right at home fixing your shit with a hammer

Seriously though: pride in your heritage is good and all, but you shouldn't let anybody take advantage of it to sell you a wad of shit. Growing up with American Capitalistic Merchants should have taught you this long ago.
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>>80098512
OGRE
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>>80097931
>in my area
you mean in your continent?
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>>>/k/
(0_O)
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>>80098757
You don't know what you're talking about.
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>>80098608
>Growing up with American Capitalistic Merchants
I didn't though. I moved here when I was 25


>Then you should feel right at home fixing your shit with a hammer
muh slavs are stupid animals meme is sad. I know that hammering parts into place can easily damage the rifle, so no. I guess I'll just keep a workaround I've applied then
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>>80098433
I have both, AK is fun and cool, but for any actual fight I would pick my AR platform. AK is red dotted for immediate home defense if my shotgun is inappropriate.
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American companies have started making AKs because of the Russia ban and a lot of Balkan AKs going to military contracts.
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>>80098547
i think youre the one in need of fucking off you commie cocksucker. its not even my video

no need to get pissy at me because your boxy head isnt even allowed to gaze upon one in person
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>>80094519
AR-15. Excuse me.
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>>80099392
Why most Americans still think that AK and AKM are still relevant these days? Don't you guys know that USSR switched to another rifles half a century ago?
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>>80099606
there,there..that is not true. even if it is, the rest of the world disagrees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxQNYPYFq1c
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>>80099606
Same basic rifle just a different cartridge, 7.62x39 is a good round faggot.
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>mfw croats talking shit again
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>>80088449

>Cant even get into orbit without rooskies

You do realize that you have to get into orbit in order to land on a celestial body right? We just use the rooskies shuttle cause its cheaper so why not. We were the biggest contributers to the space station and the pieces were mainly delivered by the shuttle, so... yeah we can orbit moron.

>Croatian education
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>>80099071
Oh you poor thing missing out on 25 years of FREEDOM!!!

Seriously though: your best bet at this point is gun shows if you want to trade in your bent AK for a good one. It might take a while for one to happen close enough to however far you're willing to drive, but just occasionally Google "(Town you live in) gun show" and you might find out when the next one is.
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>>80099766
It is though. USSR completely switched to 74 platform, not just added it.

>the rest of the world disagrees
totally irrelevant.

>>80099802
It's good for some unique purposes, but shitty for general military needs. Why won't you compare AK and AKMs to M14s in that case?

>>80100375
I don't care about it that much. I have a workaround that gives me okayish results for iron sight aiming, and I also have optics installed on it as well.
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>>80100239
>cause its cheaper
stop lying
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>>80100652
>It's good for some unique purposes, but shitty for general military needs.
You couldn't be more wrong, 7.62x39 is incredibly versatile.

>Why won't you compare AK and AKMs to M14s in that case?
Because one's an intermediate cartridge and the other is full size. And it's not just "AK" that's the generic term for any AK derivative, you mean AK-47.

Stop talking about things you don't understand.
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>>80100914
>Croatia shit has no clue how expensive it is to make spacecraft.
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>>80101020
>you mean AK-47
There is no such thing as AK-47, the first AK used to be called Aвтoмaт Кaлaшникoв (AК)

>7.62x39 is incredibly versatile
Stupid soviets completely replaced it with 5.45 because they're sooo stupid, right.
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>>80101251
>Aвтoмaт Кaлaшникoвa
selffix
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>>80100652
Out of curiousity, what's the workaround?

Also;
>optics
>on an AK
You probably don't want to mention that in /k/ or among certain crowds at gun shows or the firing range. They will insist the AK in its original factory shape is the most perfect thing ever. These are the same people who probably go home and rub their dicks all over wooden gun furniture.
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>>80101210
this is how mexicans depict fatburgers
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>>80097801
the second one from the right is a kbk akms?
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>>80101020
>Because one's an intermediate cartridge and the other is full size

You know that 7.62x39 is just a cut down 7.62x54r full sized round, right? In other words, it's "intermediate"
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>>80101512
>/k/
those are bunch of fags.
i remember they once argued over shortest ICBM route. their verdict was: equator instead of north pole.

they are basement virgin neckbeards
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>>80101512
>what's the workaround?
I've put a little staple in between sight leaf and its housing to make it align straight enough with the front sight post. The front sight is adjusted accordingly, so the whole construction is kind of work fine until you decide to raise the rear sight for whatever reason.
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>>80100652
>totally irrelevant.
lol
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>>80101251
Russians still use 7.62x39 in some capacities yuh goober.

>>80101815
It's an arsenal SGL-31.

>>80101837
Yeah I know that, that's why I typed it.
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>>80101893
>those are bunch of fags.
This we can agree to.

You should have saved a screenshot of that thread.
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>>80088746
The side of the muzzle of what looks to be an ak-74.
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>>80102087
>Russians still use 7.62x39 in some capacities
And so do Americans still use the M14 here and there, what's your point? 7.62 was considered an outdated cartridge for the general military needs by the original customer. I believe they know better than you.
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>>80102087
And even if they didn't, 7.62 is superior in every way except capacity.
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Off to bake pizza. Just want to say; I would rather have AK-74 over any rifle if shit hits the fan. You can shit on me, but I don't care. IT JUST HAS TO BE RELIABLE. That is the most important factor for me.

See you fags.
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Has anybody managed to get their hands on an AK-12?
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>>80102521
I never said they shouldn't have switched cartridges, I just disagreed with your absurd statement that 7.62x39 is:
>good for some unique purposes, but shitty for general military needs.

Nice strawman though faggot.
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Friendly reminder, that AR creators declared "it was not meant for civil use", while Mikhail Kalashnikov said "my dream is that everybody would have 2nd amendment" - i.e. he clearly meant, that AK is perfect for any lawful civil use.
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>>80102705
Well you didn't bring any facts to support your claim, so what did you expect? I'm not going to waste my time on making a list of pros and cons for each cartridge to show why 7.62x39 is inferior. We're not even on /k/
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>>80102898
And that's fine. I actually agree with that sentiment. The AK was designed to be a peasant's gun (and I don't mean that in an insulting way - I mean literally anybody can pick it up and be dangerous with it), while an AR-15 was meant for professional soldiers.
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>>80096728
If we talk rares, AEK-973 is the best assault rifle in the world today, since 1974 and for the next 50 years.
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>>80103183
Same question can be asked of you.
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>>80103293
>The AK was designed to be a peasant's gun (and I don't mean that in an insulting way - I mean literally anybody can pick it up and be dangerous with it)
This is a myth. AR platform is way more user-friendly. You need to actually study a manual first to use AK effectively. Which was fine for USSR because of the conscript army
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>>80103648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWFetkAqFNs
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>>80098278
They abandoned the Mk 16 (aka SCAR-L) because the benefits of it over the M4/Mk 18 aren't worth the costs. Price is a huge consideration for the US military.

Meanwhile, the Mk 17 (SCAR-H) is currently being fielded by almost all SOCOM forces in some capacity.
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>>80103293
> AR-15 was meant for professional soldiers
Yes, for trained professionals only. Not for well regulated militia by any chance.
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>>80103648
Yeah, nah. Having the charging handle attached to the bolt carrier and no bolt catch is far more intuitive than the AR's controls.
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>>80103648
> AR platform is way more user-friendly.
It's so user-friendly, it was not meant for you to use.

T
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FRIENDLY
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>>80104552
Я имeю ввидy oбщyю лoгикy oбpaщeния c opyжиeм. Пpицeливaниe, пepeключeниe peжимoв oгня, oбcлyживaниe и т.п.
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>>80104094
Fun fact: The AR 15 was designed first as just a semi auto rifle and the military later adopted it and modified it into the select fire M16
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>>80104094
>>80104094
>not for well regulated militia by any chance

Sadly, our current government is trying to make things head in that direction. They're demonizing the AR-15 platform specifically because of all the gays that died in Orlando. Even though it wasn't an AR15 used in the shooting.
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>>80104552
>Dick head family putting words in a dead guy's mouth for PC points

lel
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ITT: retarded burgers falling to bait from a croat shitposter about guns in a country where you can buy guns without much hassle and where every family has a stash of guns from the Homeland War which was fought,in the beginning, with hunting rifles
Shame on you burgers and shame on you "croat"/ proxytard.
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>>80096896
Qu-qu-qu-quad stack.
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>>80092503
>https://www.k-var.com/shop/skin1/pages/US/Articles/Muzzle_Brake/article01.html
yeah. m it puts about a pound of weight off the end of the barrel. and does a good job pulling the rifle straight forward during the shot. this combined equals less muzzle climb allowing a quicker next shot. good design for sure... but best assault wepon in the world? it serves a purpose, and some others serve a different purpose. some put repeat shots on target more accurately than the '74. hubris will get you killed comrade
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>>80102898
That was a straight up lie from the media. Eugene Stoner knew it was being bought by civilians and was selling it. It was available to civilians and police a year before the US military decided to adopt it.
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>>80089398
are you retarded?
dont embarrass us please
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>>80094858
How to trigger any gun owner ever
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>>80096899
stop chatting hsit
the SCAR is one of the best if not the best
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>>80104772
Fun fact: the M16 was originally originally the AR-10 which was a semi-auto rifle that fired 7.62NATO. The Army asked for it to be redesigned for 5.56
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>>80105877
why downgrade it?
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>>80106011
Ammo was lighter weight so they could carry more of it
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>>80105823
As an American, even I strongly doubt that.
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>>80105628
>>80105657
I like this Croat. This is a good Croat
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>>80106077
>>80106066
>>80106011
>>80105877
4 dubs in a row? kek is strong in this thread
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>>80106011
This>>80106066

The Army did a study and found out that, strategically, it's far more advantageous to use a lighter round. The Russians did the same thing and started to change over from 7.62 to 5.45
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>>80106298
Kek loves his guns
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGih7eWI3E
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>>80089398
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>>80106641
Once again, AR should be compared to AK-74, not AK or AKM
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>>80105877
The Army originally didn't want it. They rejected the AR-10 and kept their M-14s.
When it became clear they needed a lighter rifle with a smaller round, they looked and saw that the AR had been scaled down for the .223/5.56 and decided to test it and eventually adopt it.
Before they even were testing the rifles for military use, civilians had already been using them.
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>>80089398

It's good. But not the best.
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>dirty Croat talks shit about AR
>cant even own guns
>says he doesn't need to
>forgets 1992-95
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>>80106822
>carnik con is a serious comparison
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>>80106822
Once again, the whole thing is a stupid debate.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX73uXs3xGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAneTFiz5WU
Now what Slavaboos?
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>>80095773

Yeah. But the Nagant works. Unlike the Hi-Point ghetto blasters.
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>>80106727
just why would anyone store crap like that on hdd?
you are even worse than that dumb turkroach who collect pics of dead US soldiers.

>>>/trash/
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>>80089398
>AK-74 is the best assault rifle on the planet
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>>80107431
The reverse is true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrV3Wq59mz0
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Russian guns have always been shit
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>>80107385
kinda faggy
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>>80088449
Idi dokurca vise.
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>>80094519
Doesnt really matter because you not going to be firing an unloaded weapon.

Also because 5.56 is so much lighter you can carry much more of it.

One of the main reason for switching from the 7.62 to 5.56 was that countless battlefield studies showed that the largest factor in winning an engagement was the volume of fire one side laid down vs the other.

5.56 aloud for a much larger volume of fire from individual soldiers
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>>80088449
>whatisSpaceX
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>>80097117
>America was founded in 1816
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>>80092036
Nigger, where would you even get corrosive .223?

>inb4 russia
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ak thread on /pol?
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>>80107188
>says he doesn't need to
>forgets 1992-95

kek, well, there you go.
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>>80108333
*fondled
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>>80108243
>Also because 5.56 is so much lighter
what?
It weights 4g while 5.45 is 3.43g
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>>80108619
???
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>>80108701
that "shit" can own any murican equivalent any day/night/dusk/dawn
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>ak
>not a cheap slavshit knockoff of the greatest assault rifle ever made
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>>80096899
>Scar
>Not best 308 battle rifle out there
t Scar owner.
Scar16 doesn't offer advantages that other AR derivatives do tho.
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>>80108715
My bad thought you were talking about

>muh ak-47

My bad but if you are comparing US vs Russian service rifles you should really being comparing the AK74m to the m4.

Pro tip they weigh the same.
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>>80108994
:^)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YAneTFiz5WU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DX73uXs3xGU
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>>80109005
Nice urban legend you've got there. You clearly have little knowledge about firearms
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>>80088645
>U.S. is so shit at making brakes they can't even fucking make it right

The Kvar/Arsenal long collar brake is a combination of the half moon and ak-100 series brake, which is wrong

plus it's not chrome lined

it's horrendous and any AK collector will look at that and realize that the OP was right
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>>80109005
that gun wasn't even advanced. the allies just had their heads too far up their own arses about muh .30 cal to do anything decent
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>>80109005
You're a retard.

Ak pattern rifles have almost nothing in common with the STG44 rifle except being intermediate chambered select fire rifles with detachable magazines
Their method of operations are entirely different in every way
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>>80109269
>>80108106

post again in 10 min
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>>80108994
well it is mine bro, calm down, even I call it slav shit
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>>80088762

this

why are you here
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>>80109005
dumb ass, that is just wunderjudenshwimmwerfenrektenwaffen. not an assault rifle
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>>80109482
Proofs in the pudding
AR pattern rifles are significantly better military rifles than AK pattern.

That being said the AK would be a better survivalist rifle of the two because it requires less maintenance and reliance on cleaners and lube
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>>80109322
>>80109458
>>80109675
>>80109469

Truth hurts, doesnt it? Next youre going to try to say a makarov just a slavshit knockoff of a walther, toppest of keks
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>>80109760
>AK would be a better survivalist rifle of the two because it requires less maintenance and reliance on cleaners and lube
I hate to tell you, but operations manual for AKs is strongly advises to clean and lube it every day. Good luck operating it without proper maintenance. It will jam like a bitch
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>>80099141
Yep.
If AKs were cheaper for us that'd be one thing, but they're the same or more than ARs.
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>>80109760
AR just looks and feels like a toy compared to AK.

>>80110025
It does. Why are you keep hurting me?

>>80110079
It will jam if it is made in gypsyland or gooknistan or africa
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>>80088449
Let me know when Croatia puts their first guy into orbit.
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>>80088449
nice rust spots OP.
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>>80102532
And recoil. Accuracy. Cost. Lethality...

Actually it's worse in literally every way.
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>>80102532
5.45×39mm is the best
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>>80110085
It's really sad. Civil versions of AKs are quite cheap in Russia. I wish I could buy a Saiga-12 here, but it's 3 times more expensive than in Russia, fuck that.
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>>80094671
AR 15 is the non military variant that you can buy. But of course a fellow german wouldn´t know that.
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>>80090468
>Rock in is a bad thing

Get out, you limp-wristed faggot.
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>>80110546
I bought a saiga 7.62 before the ban. It's a good rifle but I fucking hate AK sights. The plastic feels like it belongs on a nerf gun. Aside form those two gripes I like it
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>>80091292
That's a flash hider, not a compensator/muzzle brake. It does little to the felt recoil.

The AK-74 series of muzzle devices counteract recoil and muzzle climb as well as horizontal drift. When shooting an AK, it will still recoil upwards, but it will do so more softly and without the 45 degree climb that ARs have.

Regardless of your opinions on the weapons themselves, the standard AK has a much better muzzle device than any standard AR.
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>>80111320
Muzzle rise on AR's is a meme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExdsszbGNHk
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>>80096896
All AKs can take that mag, as the A/K-107 uses standard AK mags.
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>>80110561
I looked it up and M16's arent illegal in the states, just restricted
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>>80111700
The major restriction is price
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>>80111577
>t. Never actually fired an AR, much less an FA one

Don't speak unless spoken to.
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>>80111700
They're not restricted either. No more restricted than a bolt action rifle, unless you live in CA.
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>>80111849
>The NFA isn't a restriction
Our definitions must be different.
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>>80111811
>>80111961
You fucking retard, you can buy an AR15 literally anywhere. Even California. And there is no muzzle rise on a fully automatic AR, watch the video I posted >>80111577. That's an SBR and even still has easily managed recoil. Have you ever shot an AR? Have you ever seen a firearm?

Are you Gersh Kuntzman? He thinks the .223 has heavy recoil too
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oh look another cock stroke thread
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>>80112404
I think you need a fat black cock up your ass.
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>>80093716
>Don't need any guns
>Too poor and retarded to get through all the red tape and expenses to get a shitty 9mm pistol if allowed by the state.

Fixed it for you, fucking pleb, you are one of those fags that believes in the nanny state
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>>80112689
whatever..

i'm glad that i don't need a gun.
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>>80112404
Have you ever fired a full auto AR? It'll push you on your ass unless you weigh 300 lbs (you probably do)
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>>80112887
Me neither, but I'm glad that I can have a gun
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>>80113098
*if you're not braced properly for it
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Also bump with most sexy looking rifle
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>>80113098
Hi 170 lbs here

I have fired a full auto AR.

I am in the Army and we were recently given some m4s that were converted to full auto from 3rd. Its literally nothing like you said.
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>>80113098
Learn the stance
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>>80113098
Watch the damn video anon. The first time I shot a full retard AR was for my 17th birthday and I weighed no more than 150 lbs. .223 just does not have a lot of recoil. At no point did I come even close to falling over

You've never shot a firearm, have you? Everyone who's actually shot an AR in .223 knows it kicks about as much as a paintball gun
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>>80113639
It won't knock you on your ass but it will push you backwards slightly. It's easily manageable but it's not like a .22LR
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>>80114635
>It'll push you on your ass
>I-I mean it will push you backwards slightly
No it won't. It does not move you in the slightest. It's fine to know nothing about firearms, but it's not fine to post acting like you do. You're going to get called out every time
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>>80113098
I've done dual standing M249 because too lazy for ammo count. was 150 Lbs.
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>>80090468
>rock in mags
Objectively superior in places were water could freeze aka in Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVe7d7xJdAo
Though how could Americans know about ice and snow if they live in tropics?
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>>80112404
It recoils at 45 degrees.

If you've actually tried to keep a sight on target, then perhaps you'd know that little jiggle upwards amounts to inches and feet downrange, you illiterate mong.
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>>80097801
>ARs on the other hand have almost perfectly linear recoil.
>this is what Americans believe
America's military can't even shoot their ARs on full auto.
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>>80089398
Then why aren't AKs used in mass shootings?
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>>80117311
Because ARs are way more popular in US. Some even significantly cheaper
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>>80097267
They almost all come with a flash hider stock. You can also get a compensator (blows gas upwards to reset the barrel after shots), muzzle breaks (blows gas backwards to reduce recoil, generally a douche thing to bring at the range since it blows concussive gas against people in the lanes next to you), or a silencer. Some of them combine effects of each.
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>>80117311
Real military pastern Ak-74 with real military ammo is not available in America.
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>>80106452
And autism
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>>80117057
No shit it does, but that's why we use semi for anything >5-10 yards dipshit. The idea that an AR turns into an anti aircraft gun when you go full auto is just plain wrong
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>>80112887
I own six and I don't """"need"""" them but I have them if I ever were to get in a situation where I needed one, you faggot.
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>>80117747
>real military ammo is not available in America

i buy surplus from your commie bloc countries all the time ivan
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