Should we ban sex before marriage?
>shuts down porn, a massive source of degeneracy
>kink sites like fetlife are banned
>its now illegal to cheat
>return on strong family values
50 years ago, sex out side of marriage was considered shameful and taboo. Now, you have sites where women brag about fucking 100 men at age 20.
>>79989183
Yes, we should, but how the fuck are we going to implement the decision?
>>79989305
Its easy senpai.
You clearly can't enforce it entirely but it stops porn, stops hook up culture, stops degeneracy massively. Sex before marriage would be mike having child porn.
kys virgin
>>79989183
Yes, but some retards here will call you a virgin then go complain about women in feminism hate threads.
Yes, but also re-institute arranged marriage as the norm and abolish mixed-sex and compulsory schooling.
You hit on the REAL problem.
/pol/ is full of hypocrites who oppose faggotry but don't realize that was only allowed because people like THEM were okay with fornication
>>79989707
/pol/ is full of retards that don't have the balls to even criticize women on the Internet.
>>79989592
So you think that simply banning it would create some sort of broad ripple effect? I would hope it did, but I have my doubts.
The Internet must be shut down.
Including places like 4chan that make sexual DISCUSSION normal at all.
Anonymity destroys taboos, because people hide behind the screen.
Really some sort of extremely restricted Internet is THE only way to return to tradition and sanity
yet 4channers are brainwashed against it
>>79989855
I dont even care about gays.
I made an account in fetlife out of curiousity, and learned that being a whore, a race mixer and a degenerate has been normalized by today's youth. I've seen so much shit I could write a book.
>>79989940
realistically, only a shutdown of the Internet would have the real ripple effect.
>>79990136
4chan is the same thing.
I find it hilarious how so many people on 4chan thing 4chan is a force for good or "moral" in any way and not something that must be removed from society to make ANY steps to the ideal world they want.
You simply can't step around the need for an extremely controlled Internet, or better yet no home internet at all, in a non degenerate society.
But given the state of society's brainwashing it would also take a return to ARRANGED marriage at a young age to really fix anything.
>>79989183
Tell me
What is marriage?
>>79989183
Oh look another/r9k/ thread.
Fuck off, puritan scum.
>>79990533
exposed manwhore detected
what's it like realizing you're a closet feminist?
>Far right christards are so deluded, that they actually think that any law prohibiting X in the name of religion will ever be passed again
>Saying "Should we...." as if it's already a given that you have the power to cause such a change
LOL
>>79990533
>another/r9k/ thread
r9k is dead. It's a board for normies now.
>>79989183
Alhamdulillah. America is finally ready for Sharia law.
>>79990666
Sadly Satan, you're right that this can't feasibly happen, OP is talking about ideals not real possibilities.
In reality only an Islamic conquest would actually implement it, which is sad but true.
>>79990606
Actually, i the past year in a half, I've had one sexual partner.
Like i said, fuck off.
>>79989183
Just get rid of no fault divorces.
This is all kike distraction from the actual problem. If Divorces weren't devastating for men 70% of people 18-35 would not be unmarried
>>79990344
4chan doesn't have 19 year old girls,who would have married in 1950, posting about how they had 12 ransoms run a train on them with things like #slutpride and 4chan doesn't have groups like /r/cuckold or all these "let's race mix!" Or "cheating is hot'" groups.
This is normal sexual culture in 2016. 4chan I'd much much less disgusting.
>>79989955
>SEX IS BAD REEEEE
I am so glad that from here on out, religion will basically be on the decline
>>79989183
Shouldn't we raise our children to idealize being virgins until they're married for life?
Isn't that the main lesson of basically any major religion?
>>79990748
oy vey!
Arranged marriage means you're a backwards Arab! Never mind that it's been proven to last longer than the "romance" shown in hollywood!
Never mind the fact that Orthodox Jews in Israel have arranged marriages!
>>79990839
No but it has majority porn addicts and men who enable everything above
>>79990871
YES
shame /pol/ is now full of so-called "Conservatives" who see pre-marital sex as a sign of "manliness" (probably because they're also virgins and even more thirsty)
>>79990764
>Satan
Shut the fuck up, fairy tale enthusiast.
Not to mention in today's society, marriage is a fucking meme.
>Maybe I won't feel like such an autistic sperg if everyone is legally required to be a virgin like me!
>>79991052
/pol/ is a nationalist board not a conservative board.
This is not red state
>>79989955
The internet must be shut down for many reasons.
>>79991144
and that's why it's decaying into degeneracy and ultimately compromising with liberals to the point that it's almost Tumblr
>>79989183
Muh pipe dream
>>79989183
Fuck off, virgin.
>>79989183
Making it illegal to cheat works every time.
Ask any divorce lawyer.
>>79990849
You're an idiot...Religion isn't going anywhere. Christianity is being replaced with a much worse much more authoritarian religion.
>>79989183
I agree
>sex outside marriage banned
>porn banned
>prostitution banned
>stripping & "dancing" banned
>camwhoring banned
>retards sterilized
>married white women who have lots of kids are given loads of shekels
Given about 20 years we'll be back to a degeneracy free society like in the 50's
>>79989183
>Should we ban...
And stopped reading. The answer is no.
>>79990898
>Why does a marriage that centralizes power in the male, and gives him authority over most freedoms last longer than a marriage where the Women is free to do what she wants without fear of being stoned to death?
I'm not saying the later is a better system, but use your goddamn head and put 2 and 2 together.
>>79991340
And that just proves my point that nationalism without sexual morality is doomed to fail
>>79991381
you forgot
>4chan banned
why does nobody realize it's impossible to have
>non degenracy
and
>Internet
at the same time. Technology DESTROYED social norms.
>>79991186
No..We had a ridiculous influx of people in the last year because people like Milo wont shut the fuck up about /pol/. We will do to all of you what we have done to every other influx of people.
It wouldn't work. Marriage is no longer an important aspect of life. It's seen as that nice thing you might do one day if the right person happens to show up in your life. Even now people are getting married in their mid twenties to early thirties, which is far too old to be a healthy functioning virgin. And at this point you can't try to convince young people to "settle down" right after high school. It would be seen as a tragedy.
>>79989183
No but legalize the ability for husbands to rape their wives.
>>79989183
Anal sex is illegal in 14 states but that hasn't fucking stopped anyone now has it.
>>79991596
I agree.
as I said you would need to bring back young marriage as the norm and eliminate compulsory public schooling.
>>79991340
I'm fully aware that Islam is an obstacle that needs to be dealt with. As long as it's grips can be severed on the west, we'll be fine. It really just depends on how fast the pendulum swings back to people not being cucks who apologize for everything.
>>79991381
And then it will collapse again, because what's stopping from people breaking the rules again like last time? Stop trying to govern what people do on their own time, that type of mentality just screams long term instability.
>>79991419
You're preaching to the choir but we are not conservative. Conservatives follow the Non-aggression principle and its why you have lost every major battle for 50 years.
>we'll ban it
>therefore it'll stop happening hehe xd
>sex of all things
RETARD
kys
>>79991543
That guy you're replying to is not new, he's been here for a while.
>>79990839
You're right about degeneracy in general, but 4chan itself is also degenerate. Do you know how much porn is posted on here? They have entire boards dedicated to porn. Edgy sluts and whores have been posting nudes on here for years - and then, they actually start to get worshiped by the male followings they develop as a result of them posting their nudes.
Reddit is only more degenerate than 4chan because it is much, much larger of a site compared to 4chan.
>>79991791
libertarians =/= conservatives
real conservatives (i.e. the real Right) would oppose America and even its constitution
>>79989183
Fucking cucks all of you
>>79989183
>thinking laws like this worked to begin with
You poor, demented cuck. Family values declined because the average man's destiny in the new world order is to be a serf, and poor peasants that act like it are more easily controlled.
The real collapse of values came with the decline of the middle class and the American Dream in general being stuffed down the shitter so Mr. Billionare could shave another fraction off his already low tax rates.
Poor people sink to the lowest depths of degeneracy. Higher numbers of poor people = decline in values. Laws like that ultimately do jack shit to keep Joe Ghetto from dicking some welfare skank in the alley.
>>79989592
>stops hook up culture
lol not unless you post armed guards at every 20 somethings door.
>>79989855
This
It's been scientifically proven that sex segregated schools perform better
And "dating" needs to stop
No lady before WWII would be caught dead consorting with an unrelated man without everyone frowning, staring, and coughing out "whore"
Marrying for "love" is another Jewish meme
"love" as we know it is just sexual lust followed by rationalization, then you get married, the sex stops, and you can't stand each other
Marriage before was a partnership arranged by relatives. Your parents are older, wiser, and know you better than you know yourself. They selected a mate based on things like "Can she cook? Is he studying something lucrative? Is she sweet with children? Is their family trashy? Is she a virgin? Is he brave and reliable? Is she a practical hardworking lady? etc."
>>79990606
>being able to attract and have sex with many women
>a bad thing
Sorry youre a genetic failure and hopelessly autistic.
>>79992066
>implying the Middle Class weren't the biggest degenerates of all
I'm not a Marxist but it's true that wealth and excess lead to the most degeracy.
Niggers are an exception because they're niggers, but for the most part tight knit immigrant communites are FAR more traditional than the middle class.
>>79992155
Get ready for being called an autist, a muslim, and Indian or something like that
>>79991770
Its not happening..Religions are not some book of fairy tales that gets in the way of a modern society..They are morals that have been weeded out through Darwinism. The ideas in the bible work to build and promote societies that breed. Islam turns there women into Breeding farms and then support the offsprings. Christianity promoted women to breed early and often without it we are failing.
>>79992155
>>79989855
>mfw this will NEVER EVER happen
How does it feel, faggots? You already lost, now all you can do is fantasize what if scenarios. I literally cannot express in words the satisfaction I'm feeling knowing that your ideal world will NEVER be a reality.
>>79989955
There is some truth to this... the freedom to do the wrong thing has been facilitated by the medium of the internet, cultivated in a private yet communal environment and spurred by human greed (driving traffic to sites, advertising revenue etc.) and the subversive and tantalizing urge to do the wrong thing without facing consequence...we are now seeing the degeneracy ripple through society at an alarming rate. The problem for those who buy into this is that evil has its limits and can easily be exhausted - this comes often at the expense of health, destruction of family, society etc. in the anxious battle to find further meaning in life through a futile hedonistic struggle.
>>79992155
>letting another person decide who you spend your entire life with
cucked to the highest degree
>>79992396
Exactly, which is why I oppose ANYONE (even those with pro-conservative views) who appeal to nature and Darwinian arguments. They don't realize that in fact, a lot of the "pro white" stuff isn't traditional at all but part of the early Progressive movement (I'm talking about things like eugenics).
Into the trash. Really, the Amish are some of the few whites in the US who actually deserve to survive a collapse.
>>79989955
>you can put the genie back in the bottle
It didn't work for the morality police of the 1800's, either. Nor would it work now.
>>79990136
>goes in the sewer
>surprised to find large amounts of shit
Are you normally this retarded, or is it the result of painstaking practice?
>>79992499
The birth rate of atheists is .7
What the fuck are you talking about.Liberalism didn't work you faggots had to bring in millions and millions of immigrants to vote for your bullshit. If you look at the population of the people who were here in the 1960's and how their offspring votes. You would lose every single state every single election.
>>79992499
The reply of a man with no argument who has a goal to destroy western civilization.
>>79992810
Really do you see any way to really return to tradition and stable famlies without restricting/banning/eliminating a lot of modern technology?
I've come to the conclusion that the Computer was the most powerful weapon of genocide ever made
>>79993046
Yes. Its easy
Deport the horde of third worlds liberals have brought into the country.
stop mass immigration
Get rid of no fault divorces
Let Darwinism do its thing
>>79992358
I ain't even mad
They're remnants of the libertarian jew shills from old /pol/ before we became mostly far right
>FUCK JEWS! YEAH!
>FUCK NIGGERS! YEAH!
>FUCK SPICS! YEAH!
>FUCK CHINKS! YEAH!
>FUCK DOTHEADS! YEAH!
>FUCK LIBERALS! YEAH!
>FUCK ATHEISTS! YEAH!
>FUCK MUSLIMS! YEAH!
>FUCK DRUGGIES! YEAH!
>FUCK FORNICATORS & WOMEN!
"...w-well c'mon! y-you're an asshole!"
I swear, these faggots champion western civilization from Greeks, to Romans, to Medieval Christians, to the 50's but refuse to accept misogyny & tradition.
Like the redditors who say "p-/pol/'s not RAYCISS!"
>>79992499
Oy vey! Yes Mr. Shekelstein!
>>79992586
*tips fedora*
>>79993216
*worlders
or at least open up European migration so the disenfranchised right wing can get the fuck out.
>>79993216
I really doubt it
Promiscuous people would just stop marrying altogether then, and it doesn't fix the issue of both men and women being career and material wealth obsessed and ignoring the value of family.
Maybe if you repealed social security and gave financial incentives and employment preference to married people it would help.
>>79993046
To be fair senpai Muslim countries have computers and they're still mostly degeneracy free
>>79989183
No, stop this bullshit of being the panty police and these wedge social issue. You're the reasons us Republicans keep losing is because you keep pushing the stupid social issues, and so our foreign and fiscal policy and standards are going down the tubes because you fucks are so concerned with what people are doing in their bedrooms. Get the fuck out of my party already.
>>79993402
That's because most of them have low wealth, and marriage is a survival need
Saudi Arabia is extremely degenerate.
ITT: autistic permavirgins
>>79993373
But those promiscuous people don't fucking breed at replacement levels.
Women who put career over family don't breed at replacement levels
All of this fixes itself without mass immigration
>>79992928
>Destroy western civilization
Cause you're doing so much to save it, I'm sure. I don't need an argument, you chumps have already lost. I can just gloat and shitpost. You of course can do the same thing, like you are right now. But at the end of the day, in the real world, my side is the winner ;^)
>>79992810
>Because I'm not stupid enough to fall for organized religion, I'm an atheist liberal ooogeyman
But, I find it funny that you think this type of behavior is some sort of atheist only thing. A lot of the self proclaimed religious girls I knew growing up had no problem fucking before marriage.
>>79993329
The big one is
>FUCK THE INTERNET
>FUCK TECHNOLOGY
normies all of them. They support their cage.
>>79992499
Religious groups are the only people breeding, the more extreme the group, the more they breed. It is funny because people think the world will be all atheist in the future etc, when if anything the religious will probably rise again stronger than ever.
I'd love to see even Leftists and Feminists censor the Internet.
ANY form of taking away the net will end up helping tradition even if they don't intend it.
The more they censor the more the right will actually have to do things in real life.
>>79993602
the Amish will inherit the US. They deserve it more than any internet addict who posts in this thread
>>79993329
>JEW ATHEIST FEDORASAHDSAKHDASKFGAfkasfjasFASJFGASF
>This counts as an "argument" for a christ tard.
>>79993536
Its just liberalism in general the birth rate of liberals is well below replacement levels. Liberal marriage rate is non existent. The numbers are what they are.
Its a death cult.
This is some Elliot Rodger shit.
Fucking losers.
>>79993493
lol
Liberals can't do anything but resort to namecalling
What does it say about your worldview when anyone who challenges it is a "virgin" or "autistic"? Are you that fixated on sex? Are you an animal or a man? Western civilization is rooted in self-control, starting with the Greeks & Romans. Savages like effeminate easterners and northern barbarians were obsessed with sex and physical pleasure
When someone immediately uses "racist" as a pejorative no matter the context, what do you feel? I feel nothing
>>79993846
are you kidding me?
4chan is a death cult too. Most of them are too addicted to the screen and fap too much to bother ACTUALLY reproducing. They're really just closet liberals.
the Internet MUST be destroyed
>>79993721
The Amish, Evangelicals, Orthodox Jews and Mormons will inherit the USA since they are the ones actually breeding. Catholics, Hispanics, Blacks, Mainline Protestant whites, non-Orthodox Jews etc will all decline over time because their birthrates are below replacement level, having to be topped up with immigration, however birthrates across Latin America etc are also in freefall.
yes. the current degenerate sexual culture makes stable marriages impossible, because of women. almost ALL women are able to fuck a couple 9/10+ alpha chads in their lives -- and once they've had one, they will NEVER be able to accept settling for a man outside the top 10%. even if they do marry one out of desperation, they will never forget the alpha fucks and will cuck and divorce him eventually.
this is nature, men are horny to even top level men will fuck mediocre and below average women a couple times. the reverse is not true, a man outside the top 10% will never be able to have sex with an attractive woman. sexual liberation must end or marriage and family, and therefore white birthrates, is dead forever
>>79993945
and yet, the modern West has become so "civilized" it's domesticated itself and inadvertently reverted back into savagery, but this time contained by our masters in digital technological cages.
>>79993967
If you are suggesting that the conservative birth rate is below replacement levels
You are wrong. its 3.5
>>79993937
Just lower the age of marriage to 12. So Dudes can nut quickly.
>>79989183
Ban marriage
>>79989183
>family values
family values are shit. Mexico has strong family values. Afghanistan has strong family values. Shitholes have strong family values.
The good places to live value reason and freedom. Reexamine your life.
>>79994140
not a good idea given today's culture.
There should be a way for people to pledge to marriage at a young age but complete it later in life
>>79993750
>Reading comprehension
BTW I don't actually believe in God, but most people SHOULD believe in God, for the good of western society
>>79993945
>Western civilization is rooted in self control, starting with the Greeks and Romans
You illiterate faggot. Rome was famous for orgies and corruption. In Greece, pederasty was not only common, it was encouraged. Plato had ladyboys. If anything civilization has gotten increasingly less "degenerate" (by your retard vernacular, of course)
I'm not a liberal, by the way.
>>79992628
This is wrong... appeals to nature (not darwinism) are watertight in the sense of natural law and teleology, in fact it is the only objective standard by which to morally judge anything, without it there is no non-arbitrary way to determine what is good for us. The book 'the last superstition' by Edward Feser opened my eyes to this, it was a great introductory for anyone who doesn't no what the fuck they are talking about in regards to moral issues and tradition which I realised was me after the first couple chapters. The scholastics had it right.
>>79994306
Do you have kids yourself?
I actually believe another positive aspect that religion (pretty much all religions) had was respect for celibacy.
Marriage is best for most, but there really are people who are better fit for a life of celibacy. They used to be respected and have key roles in society, but now they're treated as the lowest of the low.
I think that even faggotry is a symptom of this disrespect for the celibate, because liberals are rewriting history to assume that man who doesn't pursue women must be gay
>>79993945
>starting with the Greeks and Romans
lmao
>>79994076
Read the Unabomer manifesto and other anarcho-primitivism works. They explore this concept more.
>>79989183
Is the neighborhood effect worth the assault on personal liberty? Do you genuinely believe you could get the consent of people to go along with it?
>>79994489
I'm mostly talking about people who "appeal to nature" to say that a celibate man is worthless to society becuase they don't breed, or that chastity goes against letting the most "Fit" men dominate.
I agree with you that Scholasticism was right, and the lack of celibacy as a requisite for academia is what decayed the intellectual class
>>79989183
You can try but it's just going to end up as effective as the weed ban.
>50 years ago sex was...
blocked reported orgies in greece where most of our republic comes from PURITAN VALUES SEX INHERENTLY IS NOT WRONG ESPECIALLY BETWEEN TWO LOVING PARTNERS ITS INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL YOU ARE AFRAID OF INDULGENCE IN SOMETHING YOU THINK YOU CANT MODERATE BECAUSE your belief in a God has put fear in you. God is you. The reality around you is God. Fear nothing.
The only hope humanity has is in the ruins of the atom bomb.
You could keep praying for the apocalypse too I suppose. Faith is really the only way to stay sane knowing how wicked man is. You can take solace in knowing they will end up in the lake of fire as they deserve. Of course you likely will too, but hopefully there really are levels to hell.
>>79994022
We really need to bring the classics back to schools
The Greeks & Romans had the right idea
People must be domesticated, ESPECIALLY women
Women lead societies to ruin given half the chance because they really have no stake in it
In a barbarian world a woman who attaches herself to the biggest, strongest, most socially powerful man is set for life
Of course this holds true for the civilized world, but in contrast the average man has no stake in such a barbarian world
The legends of Amazons were a warning against letting women run things
>>79989183
it shouldn't be banned, that's SJW-tier
it should however, be frowned and shamed upon
>>79994684
Sure just threaten them with social shame it always works on women.
>>79994758
Name a single successful ban. Prohibition created even more crime.
If you ain't enslaving women you ain't doing it right.
>>79994839
If the environment isn't there for social shame, would it work? Better yet, why is the law necessary if the social shame is there?
>>79994775
Way to join the conversation 109 posts in with the same bullshit that has been said 30 times before. Lurk the thread. Everything you have said her has been answered
>>79992075
Online apps like tinder, pof, etc are either banned or full of so many undercover agents that its too risky to try anything.
Go to a bar and try to hook up? Oops, secret police got you!
Ask Stacy from PE to fuck on Facebook? That's monitored too.
>>79994863
That's my view on the Internet.
You can't censor content/speech on it without treading lines that will never be successful .
you CAN however just shut off the whole Internet by blocking all HTTP service by ISP's
this will never happen but it's more feasible than say what they do in Russia or Korea with a porn blacklist. Everyone just knows how to get around it.
>>79994799
>The Greeks and Romans had the right idea
It's absurd to lump two civilizations into one vague group. Rome ended up giving its female citizens the right to vote later on in its empire. /pol/ is just proving that it is the product of the American public school "education" (pic absolutely related)
>>79994945
the Internet destroyed social shame
4channers would be rightly shamed if their habits exposed to the public
>>79994308
>Rome famous for orgies and corruption
Christian propaganda mostly due to recent butthurt about the whole persecution thing
Romans accused christians of being "perverts" who threw wild orgies
The ideal Roman man rarely had sex for the sake of pleasure
>pederasty
Depended on the city state, and was in many places seen as gross. Like a politician being outed as a faggot nowadays.
>Plato had ladyboys
Appeal to authority
>civilization has gotten less degnegerate
Ha
Rome started off as a strong, masculine, self controlled society
It was only AFTER liberalism they grew weak
>>79993536
>anecdotes and shitposting
It feels good to be the savior of the west.
You can always join the real winning team. The western team.
>>79994945
Indoctrination.
>>79992760
There is a group on fetlife dedicated to being a slut with 90,000 members
You're next gf might be on here.
>>79989183
I smell jealousy OP. Jealous of guys who get a lot of pussy.
>>79994758
This is a theoretical. It should be banned on principle and if it is the ban should be enforced (with incentive to do so) and the punishment an effective deterrent.
In other words, if you ban something don't half ass it.
>>79995039
The future of Islamic Europe.
It makes me laugh...On one hand you have Christianity which gives you freedom and forgiveness with only a couple of rules set in stone. On the other hand you have a cult written by a warlord that guarantees war..And they are choosing Islam...
>>79995139
And that's why they fell, retard
>>79995263
What do you think about a TOTAL elimination of internet anonymity from society
as in, when getting married, or even for employers, the other party gets to see the applicant's entire web browsing history
I seriously think this is a good idea, though most of 4chan would be defensive about it.
>>79995147
I watch hardcore bareback tranny porn, have a neopets account, and have tons of old forum accounts that say terrible, boring, stupid shit, but I think I would be more shamed for on a national socialist patchwork exchange board.
>>79995383
Why?
>>79995383
contd.
I know this would disqualify most of 4chan from holding a job or marrying but maybe this is for the better.
>>79995456
>>79995462
Bring back social shaming, the way it used to be possible in public.
This is better than the alternative of pervasive government surveillance.
>>79995039
Sounds like an awesome place to live, where do i sign up?
Saudi Arabia perhaps?
>>79995343
They fell because they gave women the right to vote in local decision making? Not because of the widespread corruption, schism between two religions, poverty, size instability, and raids by the Visigoths?
>>79994863
Do you idiots think a ban means it will never happen? It just means it is punishable, which should mean significantly less people risk doing it and those that do and are caught are prevented from continuing to do it and punished accordingly.
Prohibition failed because the law wasn't harsh enough. The men didn't want it save some fringe Christians, it only passed when women got the vote and women didn't have any real power.
>>79995263
The internet is forever this is why no one really dates anymore.
You date someone do a little research and the relationship is over
At the very least she becomes a little less worthy of fighting for which ends the relationship in time
OP is a faggot
>>79995561
Might as well destroy the internet while you are at it.
>>79995679
an Internet ban is what's needed to actually save the West
nothing short of that
>>79995717
that's kind of the point. the Internet should be a library, not a place for covert communication and entertainment.
>>79995813
>the Internet should be a library, not a place for covert communication and entertainment.
Why?
>>79995383
Oh I see, this is actually a cover thread for an NSA shill.
>>79995890
Think of how many hours this generation wastes in front of a screen essentially doing nothing.
Think of how corrupt the minds of pretty much everyone who ever came to this site became.
China treats Internet as an addiction and puts kids in rehab for it.
>>79995569
You misconstrue freedom as slavery to base desires.
it isn't a privacy concern either.
>there are people right now who want a Religious surveillance state over JUST REALIZING THAT WOMEN SHOULDN'T BE GIVEN THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO BEGIN WITH.
You're going half-stop. The sooner you realize women are subhuman, the sooner you'll fix your problems.
>>79995699
>no one really dates anymore.
/pol/ just blames young males for the decline in dating, and says it's ALL our fault, and refuses to criticize women for being sluts and whores.
Dating is degenerate anyways, so I'm glad nobody is doing it anymore.
>>79995995
the Internet is the ultimate destroyer of freedom. It was never free at all. Now everyone's less free than before it ever existed
this is why "internet privacy" is a farce. It's just a Jewish trick. to pacify the masses into harmless inaction and slavery to technology
Not gonna lie, fetlife is cancerous as fuck.
Reading stories about so called "doms" having there sub's gangbanged, or beautiful white girls being degenerates. Or married couples doing other couples. And cuckolding isn't even a meme. Its insanely popular!
>>79995813
Only blood and faith will "save" the west. You'll need more than an internet ban just to make life sustainable and fulfilling alone. T.kaczynski.
>>79996182
now go on /b/
the very same people you're seeing there, are 4chan users. I bet half of them post on /pol/ too. Even in this thread where they pretend to be traditional to feel better.
This is why internet anonymity is fundamentally cancer
degenerates would be exposed if real identity pervaded online.
>>79996182
And what's sad is part of me kind of wants to join in the debaurchery. But the idea that its normal to have gangbangs is just wrong.
>>79996419
the 666 Web caught you
>>79995995
>caring this much about what consenting adults do in their free time.
I really need to stop coming here, the autism is through the roof.
>>79996051
What the fuck are you talking about
So your dating some girl and its going well so you decide to look at her past and you find some pic from 5 years ago with her and Tyrone..Is the relationship over? Are you less inclined to put up with relationship bullshit when you find out shes a coal burner?
>>79995663
>if there's other factors it makes a particular one irrelevant
>>79995996
Duh
Only cucks from reddit think well of women
The cognitive dissonance on /pol/ is amazing
>niggers are bad people
Logically we hate them
>Not all niggers are like that!
We laugh at this notion
>Historically people hated niggers and kept them in submission
Logical
>Giving niggers rights was a bad idea
Logical
Apply that to women and watch the mental gymnastics and name calling go into maximum overdrive
>>79996689
What the fuck are YOU talking about? Faggot.
>you decide to look at her past and you find some pic from 5 years ago with her and Tyrone..Is the relationship over? Are you less inclined to put up with relationship bullshit when you find out shes a coal burner?
Yes.
Same goes for a woman that was a slut or a whore in general, regardless of the race of the guys that fucked with her. I have a right to my own standards, eat my ass if you don't like it.
This thread is enough for me to believe that conservatives need to ditch the "Religious Right" completely.
I'd rather have gay couples than their stupid bullshit.
>thinks the current sexual market is retarded
>instead of fixing the problem at its core, /pol/ is afraid to touch the sacred woman's and her sacred """"conservative"""""" pedastal.
>>79996820
not an argument
I studied Latin and roman culture for ten years, your cuck meme means nothing.
>>79996820
This board is full of beta males that worship women like goddesses thats why.
>>79996946
Post your records or fuck off
And learn to logic
>>79996927
What are you going on about? Women in western society are protected by pretty much everyone. Traditionalists and feminists are two sides of the same coin, working 24/7 to ensure that women are never held responsible for their actions.
the studies though
premarital sex fucks up women's marital stability, possibly men's as well, depending on the study, it puts men at a greater risk of suicide, as well, and the media lies about all these findings to push some hook-up culture.We should be educating people on these points.
If people really want to do it, then what we should do is criminalize attempted seduction, make it a form of harassment to make any attempt to convince someone to engage. at the same time, legalize some form of underground prostitution so as to steer would-be infringements away from the general populace.
>>79997113
Ironically it wouldn't be hard to get feminists to pass these laws. Just convince them it's about mysogyny or some shit
>>79996494
DON'T JUDGE ME BRO nothing could be wrong if it's consensual bro, all actions exist in a vacuum bro
shouldn't you be looking to get pozzed or something? Maybe go clubbing down in Orlando?
>>79996920
And thats why female virginity is in almost every fucking religion on earth.
>>79996927
U wot m8?
Christianity champions chastity & virtue
>>79989183
50 years ago, women married at the age of 18
>>79997113
well yeah. any woman who's been with even 1 guy for a while will be messed up if she breaks up with him and gets with another guy. even worse if she stays with -that- guy for a while and doesn't marry (which seems to be common now).
sad state of affairs with society.
>>79997113
Fuck till marriage only works on monogamous beings, women are not monogamous nor have ever been and the same to men humans just dont have the self control to wait till marriage unless they are shamed or threatened. Humans also cant think of way to waste their time beyond fucking either.
>>79997105
They are held to account by birth rates. Western whores are a dying breed.
>>79997411
We evolved to pair bond and start having children at 15-16
>>79989183
>sexual repression doesn't cause degeneracy at all guys
>>79997298
I'm not sure what the ultimate point you are trying to make to me is. I'm following the chain of replies here and it makes no sense.
It's a good thing if nobody dates anymore. Degeneracy must not be allowed to thrive the way it has.
>>79997305
Yes, it does, but modern Christians only follow the New Testament, then say "only God can judge me!", and combined with how western society worships women, it effectively voids out any real influence Christianity would have had.
>>79997707
>marry at 16-20
>no sexual repression
kill yourself, retard
>>79997305
The bulk of churches have been infected with all manner of depravity, which was inevitable because they were worldly.
I mean hell the Catholics papal usurper Bergoglio was pun it place by a homosexual lobby.
>>79997707
Sageing a thread with 50 people in it...Good stuff
>>79997105
Those aren't "traditionalists"
They're bluepilled faggots who refuse to reach the logical conclusion on women
It sickens me to see so called "white nationalists" treating white women like princesses from a Disney movie who are only cunts because DA JOOS "brainwashed them", or one of these greasy weeaboos who adore Asian women who are "totally different" from "western sluts"
As if they aren't wired the same way
They're JUST like liberals who say "rap music makes niggers bad!" or "See, British niggers are cool!"
Women are not princesses
They're mental children who exist to create more men of the tribe, no more no less
They can increase their value by staying out of the way and in the kitchen
>>79997271
>People doing what the want upsets me
Then stay the fuck in Canada and don't come near us, you leaf fuck.
>>79997546
No they aren't. Places such as /pol/ just blame guys for everything, and then INSIST that young guys like me "man up" so we can marry sluts and whores.
Western society hates the idea of holding women accountable for anything. /pol/ and "traditionalists" are just like western society.
Spotted the virgin
>>79997298
Don't underestimate male chastity as important too.
Don't be a hypocrite. Can't have one without the other.
>>79997915
Churches work best as small insular communities that give there members an evolutionary edge by providing help with child care, adult friendships, a insular network for business and trade etc.
>>79997787
>Marrying at 16-20
Yea, have fun with that.
Why are their so many whores and chads /pol/? For all of human history a nice long term monogamous relationship was the goal and common place. Sex was for having kids and nothing more.
Why is it in the last 35 years that sex and hook ups are normal? That marriage is shamed? That being a slut is something to be proud of?
Being a slut isn't natural.
>>79997757
Early Christians only followed the new testament as well, they just had an understanding of it, and in order to do that they must understand the old covenant.
>>79998248
Then don't complain when you see women being degenerate, and when you see Christianity declining even more.
>>79989183
>Sex before marriage made illegal
>Everyone just switches to hentai
Well at least it would screw over the jews.
>>79998075
yeah but they're people too.
I think you're forgetting that part.
If you only pander to men you're ignoring half o the white population.
>>79998172
Women are subhumans anon dont hold men to the same standard as them, we can fuck before marriage but they cant thats the way it should be,
>>79998227
>marrying at 30
LMAO have fun with that, kiddo
>>79998110
No one said shit about Manning up this entire thread..And liberal birth rates are what they are.
>>79998075
>He's a christard and a racist
Laymeow
t. intellectual negro
>>79998231
Jews
no it should be left up to the moral values of each individual, doesn't make one better than the other though.
>>79997615
Eh, teenagers have much higher rates of birth complications believe it or not
And death is more likely for both mother and child
In contrast women 25+ will probably have defective kids with deformities, faggotry, or autism
17-24 is the prime age
>>79997757
Indeed
It's like how lay Buddhists sin all they like because "if I accumulate enough good karma I'll be reborn as a monk who can achieve nirvana"
>>79998432
No they haven't, and I'm fucking surprised that they haven't. But still. It's happened in pretty much every single thread besides this one that I've ever seen here on this topic.
>>79998351
Those with great faith don't care. You can't do anything for unrepentant sinners who don't know Christ. They walk the broad path to destruction.
Old saying was only 1/10,000 is saved. Now it's likely 1/100,000,000
>>79998231
They're not chads
they're just losers who pretend to be "alpha"
I may be autistic and a virgin but I don't pretend to be alpha nor do I support promiscuity
>>79998355
Eh, at least nobody has to fornicate to make hentai
>>79989183
>>shuts down porn, a massive source of degeneracy
That would just open the floodgates to lots of porn of married couples, including ones that get married specifically to make porn.
>>79998425
LOL marrying at thirty....Kids with downs or autism with broken whore who has been in and out of relationships so many times the break up is no longer painful.
Go liberalism
>>79998746
How can they lose if they got laid?
>>79998365
Men are the only gender that matters in the long run
A woman who wants to be happy accepts that she's an inferior being and rolls with it
Pandering to women got us into this mess
>>79998735
I grew up with the impression that all of the Bible mattered, as a collective piece, not just the fucking soft nice parts of it.
Christians are cucked and seen as weak in the modern world because you all only want to believe the nice, soft, warm and fuzzy parts of your book. I respect Christianity when it comes to the OT and NT combined, but if you're just following the New Testament, then you can't complain when degenerates start flooding society.
>>79998946
OK well I disagree with you.
I'm not saying you have to listen to them, but you shouldn't treat them like cattle.
>>79998845
http://www.m.webmd.com/baby/features/fertility-101
>>79989183
No it's 2016
I agree OP. Lets also ban guns and hate speech while we are at it.
>>79998967
All of the bible does matter. But Christians don't follow the old law.
You don't seem to understand the new testament is far more unforgiving than the old. You need to have the law inscribed upon your heart. Not only must you not sin you must not want to sin.
>>79998559
>No they haven't
/pol/ is a cycle see>>79991543 something brings 10s of thousands of blue pilled faggots onto /pol/ they say shit like man up and "lol jealous" of people getting laid...They get BTFO and get redpilled. Then we have a nice board for a little while before a new group of blue pilled faggots show up and make all the old arguments...Enjoy the times when most people are red pilled because they don't ever last long something always brings more.
>>79998528
>17-19 isn't a teenager
And I have my doubts on the birth complication rates. In the past teen and even preteen mothers were popping out babies left and right. If there were higher risks, it likely had to due with those girls that developed later than usual. Most girls are physically fully developed by 15.
>>79999137
Not cattle, like dogs
Part of the family, cute, does silly tricks, can help with some tasks, but still inferior
>>79999556
Eh, you know what I mean
>in the past
Ah yes! When nearly half of all children and mothers died in childbirth! When most girls wrote out wills when pregnant just in case!
A 15 year old isn't ready
>>79999496
>All of the Bible matters
>But Christians don't follow the old law
That makes no sense you faggot. And how the fuck is the NT more unforgiving than the old? It's pretty much just "love everyone, kumbaya, relax" and shit like that. I can't believe you just said that.
>>79999504
Then perhaps we are in a good time period then, But people need to get this idea out of their head that western society "shames" women for having sex. No it fucking doesn't. It encourages women to be sluts and whores, then it shames young men like me who don't "man up" and marry them. The people that said that shit on here are just a reflection of the civilization we live in.
>>79999486
*tips fedora*
I haven't masturbated in almost 5 years. It took me a few times before I reached this number. I threw myself into work to distract myself. whenever I got a particularly bad hard on (usually lying down in bed at night) I just took a breath and clenched my legs for 5-10 minutes. Then I'd get up and have to piss, strangely. Once a month I'll have a wet dream, but it's very easy not to masturbate now.
So it is possible and society would be better off if people suppressed their sexual urges before marriage, but I wouldn't count on it actually happening as it does take incredible motivation, and most people don't understand why it's even a bad thing, even people who think they do.
>>80001897
What made you even want to quit masturbating in the first place? Catholic guilt?
for all u beta virgin faggots
>>80001745
>>80001897
not only that but people tend to forget that CELIBATE men also have value, and in many ways it can be equal if not greater than a married man in terms of individual worth to society
>>79991058
Did you even check those repeating digits you fucking degenerate?
>>80001897
People like you in the past would join the monasteries and directly contribute to culture and science. The rest of the masses would simply get married swiftly at a young age and get a proper outlet for sex
>>79994552
>because liberals are rewriting history to assume that man who doesn't pursue women must be gay
Give an example, and it better not be something stupid that can be easily refuted like Alan Turing.
>>80002033
I didn't like indulging in hedonistic base pleasures. I didn't like being a hypocrite for calling porn stars/sluts degenerates while I masturbated. I wanted the sense of self-control, because masturbation felt like an addiction i was a slave to. A lot of guys laugh about how masturbating is like breathing to them, but it left me with a great sense of unhappiness every time I did it.
>>80001041
I'm sorry buy you're an idiot. The old testament outlines many sins and punishments for them. The new covenant came about because man by his very nature can not stop himself from sinning. They need Jesus and though Jesus they will be filled with the holy spirit (essentially a divine conscious to know intrinsically what is right and wrong) and when they feel temptation to sin they can turn to Jesus for strength.
Christianity is fairly Gnostic in its rejection of worldly things. You must put nothing, hobbies, country, family etc before jesus and pick up your own cross. It doesn't believe in punishing sinners of the world as their punishment is eternal damnation. God gave man free will and the bulk choose evil. You can preach to them Gods message but you can not force repentant sinners to be clean, and attempting to do so only makes you filthy.
>>80002081
>>80002212
>>79998746
>>79998172
>>79997261
OK OK, I'll go to Publix to pick up your Levodopa, just stop posting on /pol/ with the young folk
>>80002935
lol
>>80002870
Have you ever considered eliminating internet use as well?
>>79989183
> I'm not getting any so no one else should either, the post
>>80002871
...... but, like, leaf, you still haven't even explained how the fuck the New Testament is more unforgiving than the old one.
Besides, the New Testament has a fundamental tenet of "People can do whatever they want and then ask for forgiveness and everything will be alright!", and that's why so many degenerates are attracted to it. Don't even try to dispute what I just said, I've talked to many Christians about this and they all were forced to agree that yes, the NT allows people to get away with anything if they simply ask for forgiveness in the end. It's a flawed concept, no wonder Christianity is so cucked these days.
>>79998559
Well, just look at the thread now.
>>80002081
>>80002212
In general that's probably true, but in my case I have a low-tier job. I'm learning to program right now but I'll never be Asian tier simply due to lack of intelligence. I also spend somewhere between 7-8 hours a week on this site, which is kinda degenerate in its own way.
>>80003092
one problem at a time, m8. but yes i really should get off 4chan.
>>80003124
Like clockwork, you libs
>>80003246
>but, like, leaf, you still haven't even explained how the fuck the New Testament is more unforgiving than the old one.
I did. What Sin is has not changed, but now to avoid hellfire you not only must be sinless, you must not want to sin in your heart of hearts.
>Besides, the New Testament has a fundamental tenet of "People can do whatever they want and then ask for forgiveness and everything will be alright!",
"Now go and sin no more"
only those who are genuinely repentant have their sins forgiven. If you keep sinning you are not following jesus and will end up in the lake of fire.
>>79989183
No. Women should be shamed for having premarital sex, that is enough. Society no longer keeps them in check thanks to feminism.
>>80003638
Fuck. A fucking leaf.
>I did. What Sin is has not changed, but now to avoid hellfire you not only must be sinless, you must not want to sin in your heart of hearts.
>"Now go and sin no more"
>only those who are genuinely repentant have their sins forgiven. If you keep sinning you are not following jesus and will end up in the lake of fire.
But what if the people are only "repentant" because they are terrified of an eternity in hellfire? People are naturally selfish, and it's very possible that their feelings of despair because they are being condemned are stemming from the fact that they would know that they are totally fucked.
Someone saying "I'm sorry" just to get out of spending an eternity in hellfire and then letting that person off is a prime example of extreme cuckery at it's finest.
>>79992396
I personally have no need for religion. I'm having a glorious white atheist son with my white atheist wife.
I think that most normies need religion though.
>Stop liking what I don't like!!!11!1
>Return on strong family values
AKA family monopoly night, mom and dad taking little Billy to go see a baseball game, mommy getting the kids cleaned and dressed up for when dad gets home so he can see them for 1 minute then go do something else.
You're a massive faggot. Just wait until sexbot servants and human cloning come around, until then, everything you just posted is a lost cause.
Move to some Arab shithole if you want this instead of trying to force your views upon everyone else. It's a free country, nigger
>>80004082
It's more complicated, kind of similar to Buddhism.
Read this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angulimala
>>79989183
What if we did the opposite? What if we mandated that everybody gets 15 minutes with an amazing slab of meat before they leave puberty regardless of shape, size, social standing? That way, nobody gets to say that they got left out and hopefully inoculate the person from becoming a Supreme Gentlemen/lady/whatever and taking out their frustrations on general society.
>>80004082
>But what if the people are only "repentant" because they are terrified of an eternity in hellfire?
If you die with Sin in your heart you go to hell even if you haven't committed a sin of the flesh. Only those who know Jesus can live a sinless life and be filled with the holy spirit. you can only get to know Jesus by picking up your own cross and living like Jesus. A life of prayer, preaching, and good works.
>>80004713
>mandatory promiscuity
welcome to brave new world. If we aren't there already.
>>80004763
Leaf, why are you doing this? Answer this:
>But what if the people are only "repentant" because they are terrified of an eternity in hellfire?
Answer it directly.
>>80004313
You will struggle without the community that religion provides straining your marriage and chance for wealth accumulation. You'll have a kid who will probably interbreed and your genes will be lost in the wind. Bye
>>80003773
Read the thread whore
>>80005220
I did. Those who repent simply out of fear and not because they are filled with the holy spirit and know morally what they did is wrong will burn in hell regardless. Fear can be used as a stepping stone to hopefully get to know Jesus genuinely which is the only path to salvation.
>>80004985
Alright, so we give people the option to opt out and become full blown wizards if they so wish.
A premarital sex ban is about as enforceable as an alcohol ban.
The real danger comes from the creation of Supreme Gentlemen and their tendency to go off the rails after a certain amount of time. How would OP's plan prevent any of that?
Fifty years ago was 1966, where both young single people's and married couples experimented with open sex. Think of free love and swinger parties you smeez
>>80005625
But don't you fucking understand that the reason so many degenerates think only the New Testament matters is because of what you just explained? All they have to do is go through a few steps and they are absolved of all wrongdoing they ever did.
You mirror most Christians' when it comes to this matter, and that is why historically "Christian" societies crumbled because of extreme degeneracy.
>>79989183
>remove all power from men
>give it to women
Kill yourself feminist cuck
>>80005261
I accumulate plenty of wealth on my own. My child will make the right decisions. Religion isn't necessary, nor is community.
>>80005983
Christians are not worldly. False Christians are going to hell, if man chooses sin and societies crumple it is because they deserve it.
What you want if the Roman Church or Law for practical purposes. Unfortunately because they are rooted in the world they are doomed to be corrupted and end up like we are now. The new testament was all about Jesus BTFO of jews who didn't follow God or the law, just their convenient interpretations of it. It was the synagogue of Satan.
Christianity is not practical for the forced stability of the physical world, it is to save the soul of the individual.
>>80006529
>it is to save the soul of the individual.
So you mean that degenerates think that only the New Testament matters, so in the end, they can "repent", and then get away with everything they did, and then get a ticket upstairs.
I already knew that, leaf. Reply to me again, I dare you.
>>80006900
>So you mean that degenerates think that only the New Testament matters, so in the end, they can "repent", and then get away with everything they did, and then get a ticket upstairs.
Yes they misinterpret Christianity and rationalize their sin because of the corruptions of the churches or their own unwillingness to live a holy life and will burn for it.
>>79989183
That's a lot of money and jobs wasted tbqh, and it would create a black market, there's no doubt.
You can't just ban something so pervasive. It's like banning tobacco products 30-40 years ago when a large number of people smoked.
