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What does /pol/ think of this?

http://www.ted.com/talks/alexander_betts_why_brexit_happened_and_what_to_do_next?utm_campaign=social&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_content=talk&utm_term=global-social%20issues
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>>79967988

Globalist faggot furthering socialism. Who gives a fuck?
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>>79967988
As Stephen Coughlin says in "Catastrophic Failure," scientistic faith or false certainty is the delusion of our age. Thing is, leftists are more guilty of it than rightists. Note that Mr Betts wants more "inclusion." Inclusion is a two-way street. If the other fellow comes here, but rejects "here" and is "radicalized," then that is surely not inclusion. I am sincerely curious as to how Mr. Betts plans to erase centuries of unambiguous Islamic jurisprudence to achieve this.
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Not going to read that shit, but OPs pic is right.
We do live in a society where facts don't matter, except these people are claiming that the lies are facts, and they're calling truth lies.

That's the problem.
People read shit from the media and facebook and they think to themselves ''I know the truth! Everyone else but me is dumb! BBC told me what is true, therefore I know the truth!''
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>>79967988
I agree with the quote but not what he thinks the lies are.
People listen to their facbook feeds and youtube subscriptions more than fact based reasoning and both of those things usually lean left.
Brexit was and is fact based while the remain campaign was all baseless fear mongering on twitter and facebook memes.
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>my opinions are irrefutable facts
lol @ the aids-ridden fag
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>>79967988
He's right that facts don't matter because if they did he wouldnt have to spend that much time rationalizing why people don't agree with him.
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>>79968337
Came here to say this. It's obvious to anyone not a globalist when everyone on brexit was just called racist even when your issues were shit like the eu being undemocratic.
Brexit happened because only the privileged can hide in fantasy and pretend their shit worldview works, the rest of us face reality.
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>>79967988
>implying the left ever cared about the truth
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>>79967988
I think it's hilarious, leftists are largely to blame for creating this post factual discourse, and now it's biting them in the ass. It should make them think twice about their current attempts to make violence the currency of political discourse, but I doubt they possess the necessary foresight
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>>79968909
>and now it's biting them in the ass
But that implies Brexit was the objectively wrong choice, which it wasn't.
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Wow after decades upon decades of lies and propaganda by the mainstream media and the people it portrayed as experts, the population lost all their trust in them? Decades of appealing to emotion and misrepresenting facts or simply outright lying left a mark?

Gee golly wiz how unexpected. Who would have thought? There was no way to foresee this, just like every single "expert" failed to foresee the catastrophic financial collapse a decade ago. If only we listened to the factual evidence!!!!

Cry wolf often enough go ahead, but don't come crying after when the wolf comes for you and there is no one left to listen.
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>>79967988
>that quote
These people have no self awareness do they.
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>divide between those that fear globalization and those that embrace it

unless i'm a multinational corporation why would i embrace globalization? why the fuck would ANYONE embrace it? what sort of fucking bubble does he live in to say shit like this?
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I don't get it, did he say that world doesn't care about the truth and thus Brexit happened or vice versa?

Because if it's the opposite then TOP FUCKING LEL
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>>79967988
This is so fucking arrogant.

>The sheeple are too dumb to make their own decisions. We need to cull the herd. They believe in lies because they are too stupid. My superior intellect is the truth, and people who disagree with me are dumb, fat, uneducated rednecks who need to be told what's good for them.
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>>79967988
trashman.tiff
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>It's about globalism vs nationalism
>I don't know anything about my own country
Seems pretty accurate, he's just wrong about globalism being a good thing.
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I just want our country to be independent.

Why can't we be a great country like USA, Canada and Australia?

Yeah I know I'll be a couple quid out my pocket for a few years. But you know what.

I got my country back without a single bullet being fired.
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>>79967988
TLDW?
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>>79969383

>Hasn't invoked article 50

You haven't got shit.
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>>79967988
>What did he mean by this?

>Butthurt globalist shilling

>Muh brexit is raycis

>Anyone who doesn't allow themselves to get fucked in the ass by leftists is stupid and uneducated.

sage
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>>79969182
muh job creators
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>>79969855

Don't you care for workers? Then its only natural you should allow the wealthy to give them work? The corporation is a body made up of cells, each has to work together for each other to succeed. To maim one is to maim both.

So who are you siding with here. The jews, or the workers?
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>>79970003
>allow the wealthy to give them work
8/10 almost got me to reply.
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Is this guy joking? Academia has been pushing this post-factual discourse ever since postmodernism became en vogue decades ago, which values politics over objective truth.

These self-appointed experts and """intellectuals""" and the real elites who sponsor them are growing increasingly insane and out of touch. I fear the noose might be the only way to bring them back down to earth.
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>>79967988
(((OY VEY!!!)))
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>>79967988

Nobody can read the future.

Yes, in the short-term, the UK might have some bumps in the road adjusting to WTO rules while hashing out their own treaties.

But in the long-term the UK is opening themselves up to trade with 85% of the world. The EU makes up only 15% of possible world trade. For instance, Germany's biggest export is automobiles. Where the UK may suffer on not buying brand new VWs, they make up for by eliminating the excise taxes that essentially make your Ford, GMs, Toyotas, Mitsubishis etc etc higher. I mean the list goes on.

This falls back onto why millions will vote for Trump. It's not that he's the best candidate, but he's not a lefty that says, "You don't agree with me, therefore, you are wrong." And doing so, so smugly.

Alexander Betts has never been anything but a yuppie, and like many upper-middle to upper class leftist, don't have the real world experiences of ACTUALLY working 40-60 hours just to feed your family and pay a mortgage, etc. So when immigrants come in and undercut your jobs and ruin your neighborhoods because of their tendency to crime, that's something Betts never experienced. Same thing with taxes. It's easy to say everybody should have a 50+ tax when you are a professor at fucking Oxford, but how about when you're just trying to make a modest living and take care of your family. All Betts hears is what is in his leftist echo chamber.
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>>79970088

Restrictions, restrictions are no fun. Unless you're restricting everyone!
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>>79967988
>We are right and you are wrong, and we know this for a certainty, so bow down and take it while we destroy your values and the free democracy that allowed them and your country to flourish
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>>79967988
really makes you think
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>>79967988
Just watched, typical metropolitan liberal. His epiphany is that people voted leave because of fear of globalisation and belief of lies, and that elites need to be more 'inclusive'.

Absolutely clueless.
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It's true, perception shapes reality.

That's why leftists have such a chokehold on society. Controlling the narrative is the next best thing to absolute mind control.
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>>79967988
Thats true although its a double edged sword, both left and right (and whatever other side you desire) employ both truth and fact and show them as all fact and shows the truths and lies of the other side as all lies. what is true and what isn't has no bearing any more.
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>>79970932
>them and your country

Our. Our country. We have to stop dehumanizing liberals because of the loud crazy ones. It's the equivalent of them hating the right wing because of the skinheads, and then redirecting focus from talking about right wing ideals, to talking about how they are garbage.

This us vs them mentality needs to stop. Freudian slip, my friend. Persuasion of the people works best when you are not berating and shaming them. If you use the methodology of the SJW's and transfer over to their state of mind using shame to control their little branch of the left wing, it will result in no different results than them. A bunch of whiny 20 something year old failures who dye their hair and march around in public like a bunch of faggots.
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>>79971337
Alright. Still don't like faggots burning American flags one second and then demanding the populace disarm themselves the next, but yeah, you're right.

Hopefully this leftist fever dies down after Trump gets elected. Gonna take a whole lot of ice packs for the butthurt come November.
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>>79971337

Remember. The movement needs quality people who use reason. Not the sheep that get attracted by authority who shames, berates, and makes them hate themselves unless they switch to their side.

I can guarantee you they would hate niggers so much if they had a tendency to be right-wingers who aren't parasites on society.
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>>79967988

I love watching the left reach the conclusion that the real problem with democracy is those nasty voting people.

So many outlets, even "serious" media ones, have had articles arguing for totalitarianism and the demolishing of democracy and direct voting.

It's like I'm living in a fever dream.

After all these years of fighting "muh evil nazis" that were completely nonexistent, they have embraced and become what they claimed to be protecting us against. It's fucking disgusting.
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>>79971337

I mean, lets take for example, Milo, le dangerous faggot man. He's brought an entirely new perspective to viewing the right wing into light, some may say he's changing it for the better, which obviously does also allow for more subversion because of lending him the power of influence and change with your support.

Quality over quantity. We need a quality group of principled, moral, reasonable people. Not the retards who get attracted by silly ideals like equality and "the greater good".
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>>79967988
anybody noticed the left is using the ironclad arguments against them (not using logic and evidence) against anyone who disagrees with them more now? crazy shit
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>>79967988
I was literally saying this exact thing on /v/ last night before this was posted and everyone called me retarded.

Well, everyone here is calling this guy retarded too so oh well but still at least I am not retarded alone.

I was trying to explain why the latest generation tends to end every sentence with a question mark, I was saying how since evidence and truth no longer matter that its become impolite to speak as if you know anything definitely, thus it has caused people to speak leaving room to disagree.
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>>79972341
Is this image supposed to be in outer space or underwater?

And who is that? Vishnu?
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When did TED go full retard lads?
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>>79972961
>I was trying to explain why the latest generation tends to end every sentence with a question mark

Because usually those are the writers and activists who are trying to facilitate discussion. Can't have a discussion without a bunch of questions. The whole politically correct culture of not being able to speak needs to be purged though, definitely won't be missed. It'll get us back on the right track in regards to actual democratic values, anyway.
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>>79973083
It always was, you were just too blind to see it
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>>79969383
> without a single bullet being fired.
> mfw her constituency voted Leave
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>>79967988
Scott Adams was right again
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>>79967988

Idiots. Elections have always been won with memes and slogans, not nuanced argumentation. The only change is the evolution of the media.
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>>79971337
I'm not dehumanising liberals, but to say there isn't a divide between those who wish to rule others by keeping them under thumb, for the sake of globalist ideas that they themselves hold for the good of their own wealth and their masters, is sheer delusion.

It's exactly your kind of pearl clutching and overkindness for groupthink that has led to so many being afraid to voice their concerns for the fears of being called racist and for not being "tolerant", and pushed us into the headlong collapse we're in.
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>>79967988
Democracy is only acceptable as long as people vote the way the elites want. We have defied them and now we can expect a sustained propaganda campaign from the powers that be to demonise democracy.
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>>79972341
It's not even just the left really-- this is the new philosophy that has been selected for humanity to follow. Even the "right wing" doesn't use any rhetoric that appeals to natural human desire to live with their own kind, preserve their traditions etc. They can't-- all that shit is racist and must be expunged.

White people have always been most vulnerable to ideological exploitation. The Japanese are still worshipping their rock, tree and sky gods, the indians are still praying to Vishnu. We got rid of our old gods the instant christianity came on the scene, and now we're butchering YHWH on the marxist altar.

We won't make very good muslims. I suspect those white genes will be bred out in the caliphate-- we'll just drop islam for any pretty lie that anyone brings up, and be execute for apostasy.
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>>79975536
>It's exactly your kind of pearl clutching and overkindness for groupthink

No, I'm against groupthink, including groupthink towards liberals

Liberty and justice for all, our founding fathers knew this, especially the people you dislike.

You can paint the picture over all liberals (granted its understandable because they control the discourse that flows through most media and are very very loud about it) but trying to get the moderates on our side is really the only way. The people who are easily brainwashed by hatred wind up the equivilant a screaming fat SJW. We must never resort to the tactics of enemies on a moral scale when not firing bullets. This it not war, these are your fellow Americans who have been brainwashed by the elite. Help them. Scorn the ones that don't wish nor care to rise above that liberal ignorance. But do not see each and every liberal as the same person with the same ideals and the same agenda. The person fills the role of the title, the title doesn't fill the role of the person.
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>Brexit
>Good idea

Pick one
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>>79968326
>Science
>False certainty
You don't even realize how dumb you sound. Science is about QUESTIONING and CONFIRMING, not just saying "welp this is how it is and that's all there is to it because the expert said so."

The only ones with "false certainty" are the idiots like you who buy into all the nonsensical right-wing rhetoric and nationalist bullshit.
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Just imagine how bad it will get if Trump wins.
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>>79976192
>Science is about QUESTIONING and CONFIRMING
Unless it supports a left-wing viewpoint, in which case it's dogma and you're an ignorant bigot to dare question it.
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>>79976008

I can see if my various thoughts and beliefs come across as shilling. I understand taking the moral high road involves giving up some power.

Imagine George Washington running for three terms? That rejection of that extra four years of power paved the way of long-term prosperity for the nation to flourish under his care and judgement.

I absolutely can assure this to you though, and it's so true - the Path Of Light involves more than resorting to degenerate enemy tactics, recruiting degenerate people using that degenerate methodology and absolutely IMPLODING everything the movement stood for.
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>>79976192

> Science is about QUESTIONING and CONFIRMING

Then why do liberals constantly hate when Americans question science?
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ted
more like
jew
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>>79974752

You need to put the star of david on that kike Edward Bernays, father of modern advertising and nephew of the jew Freud.
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>>79976008
The problem is that even the most moderate, seemingly reasonable point of view that modern society could come up with is absolutely suicidal.

Japan "needs workers" and "has to allow more immigrants" to "pay for their retirement" and "fill undesirable jobs," but they refuse. For good reason-- they understand on some visceral level, that if they allow foreigners to just settle in their lands whenever they want, it will cease to be Japan.

It appears that most europeans don't have that instinctive understanding. Even the most "reasonable" idea, of allowing immigrants, still destroys our civilization in a few generations.

I'm OK with Hindus, don't get me wrong, and any kind of east Asian is OK by me. But we will still cease to be the same society in 100 years with them coming here, and while that's not necessarily a bad thing, it's by no means good either.

But they don't even want to stop there. They want unskilled, unselected migrants for go knows what reason. And they'll get it too. They'll get everything they want.

Because the narrative says they're on the right side of history. And they'll go on believing that, probably even in the last ten seconds of consciousness they have after they get beheaded by muslim zealots in their home towns.
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>>79976008

Horseshit, you newfag. The founding fathers weren't psychopaths and knew that "a people make a place" and made it quite clear America was for WHITES ONLY.

http://www.npiamerica.org/research/category/what-the-founders-really-thought-about-race
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>>79971337
I began to stop being liberal when /pol/ mocked them relentlessly

being nice to marxists while they attack like lunatics is a terrible idea and exactly what they want you to do, you are plying right into their alinsky tactics

>egalitarians/classic liberals made the same mistake
>they are pretty much disenfranchised and dying as an ideology
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>>79976858
>Because the narrative says they're on the right side of history.

We can't follow their narrative and follow their tactics. The first step to giving a state legitimacy is acknowledging it exists. Globalism absolutely must be stopped, and that includes taking out the social aspects, but with all diseases you must treat the root cause, and not the symptom. Globalism pushes liberal degeneracy, not the other way around. You're focusing your hate on the wrong person.

Do not focus the hate on the people. Focus the hate on those who are manipulating the people. You have to remember, they have been brainwashed - you must bring them out with reason and logic, not further brainwashing, even if it is right wing, because if you wind up succeeding, that person was most likely a degenerate who could have easily been manipulated into doing the bidding of the higher ups.
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>>79967988
What happened to moot?
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>>79977141

>linking some shitty article written by a jew

I don't care about any kike named spencer. I don't care about your social ideologies. We are concerning ourselves with the higher ups, they are the root CAUSING these degenerate social ideologies. You have to stop attacking the symptoms - aim directly for the cancer itself, and everything will resolve.
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>>79976489
Because it shows you don't understand science.
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>>79977801

Correct. The American people wish to understand science by questioning it and having a conversation about it. Attempts to silence the voice of the people do not educate them.

Do not look down upon your equals. You do not know me. Focus on the ideals, not the person behind them, stupid ass liberal.
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>>79971337
>We have to stop dehumanizing liberals
Also, disagreeing with someone isn't dehumanizing them. By making this assertion, you're actually dehumanizing us all the more-- painting us as crazy sociopaths who just want to smash anything they don't like.

I realize the potential hypocrisy in saying this, but that's really more the left's preferred tactic. Conservatives for the most part try to get along. They get attacked so mercilessly in public, that a lot of leftists don't even think they know any at all-- and would be aghast if they thought someone they knew was one.
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>>79976190
>Uses misleading graph
>Oh no, some speculators that were too stupid to pull out will lose some sheckles
>And then gain them back
This has almost zero effect on most people.
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>>79977934
Science isn't about ideals, dumbass. Science is about making observations, testing hypotheses, and confirming through repetition and empirical evidence. The fact that you think science in and of itself should be questioned tells me that you don't understand it. Science doesn't get questioned. Individual results may be questioned, by the scientific process itself is what has gotten us as far as we've come. When you start questioning that because you don't understand it, then yes you look like a complete fucking moron.
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>>79977631

That's a good article written by Jared Taylor. He simply quotes and sources the founding fathers (and later presidents') views on race, that it is extremely important and this country was intended to be white man's land.

I think I jumped the gun and wanted to attack the common misnomer of "liberty and justice for all" being a way to promote multiculturalism, when in fact we were never intended to be multicultural.

Richard Spencer is not a kike, btw. He might be gay, though.
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>>79978138
>Also, disagreeing with someone isn't dehumanizing them.

I agree. I'm speaking to the people who do dehumanize them, not the ones that don't, and just simply disagree.
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>>79978179
>Britain imports most of its food
>Their money is now worthless
>This has almost zero effect on most people.
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>>79978225
>Individual results may be questioned

Semantics. This is what was originally conveyed, but misinterpreted by you.
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>>79976192
hey we've found a true believer
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The guy in the OP's vid ticks about every box. Another feminine beta masochist who hates his country, nothing to see here
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>>79967988

It's a great case study in how different groups of people all think they have a monopoly on "the facts", when in fact "facts" have been conflated with principle in many instances.
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>>79976192
A lot of what gets passed off as science kind of sucks-- especially recently. The way research and grants etc... work at universities right now, a LOT of scientific funding gets funneled to whomever tickles the right ideological spots, and potentially groundbreaking stuff is buried, or has to hide its true intent under a lot of double-talk in order to get approved.

It's not just ideological, a lot of it is economic and prestige based. Apparently, it's nigh impossible to get a project approved to just understand something better-- you always have to link it back to cancer, diabetes or alzheimer's or something. The people giving the grants want prestige and shallow results.
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>>79976192
"Science" -- the Platonic ideal, floating in space -- is not the same thing as an actor in a lab coat touting the research breakthroughs achieved by Halls of Medicine.
You have this idea, which is exactly what I was talking about, that it's a one-step process and it's over. This is why Hillary thinks war is easy. I think that when you are older, you will have seen that reality has a nasty habit of escaping our complete grasp.
As science writer and medical doctor Ben Goldacre likes to represent actual scientific progress, I think you'll find it's a little more complicated than that.
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>>79967988

> Post-factual society
Now watch as he plays fast and loose with the distinction between facts and interpretations of what disparate facts mean. Pay special attention to the part where all the facts end up confirming the beliefs that he had before he got the facts.
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>>79978228

My personal belief is that multiculti in America at least, seems to be it's future and is currently out of the peoples hands. Spics and niggers will breed and America will (most likely) never have the political climate to grant the president the ability to deport American citizens on a whim. Hopefully Europe goes down a different path than it's currently going down - it still has hope in a lot of areas.

But I try not to think negatively like that. I have no explanation for these beliefs at the moment because those conclusions come from multiple multiple different sources for obvious reasons - it's best to get all sorts of viewpoints and sort each single sentence of every one out to make sure the cream of the crop rises to the top and blends perfectly. So obviously take these beliefs with a grain of salt.
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>>79978695
God damnit I need to learn to be that succinct.
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>>79967988
The premise is right, but the conclusion is a non sequitur.
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>>79978639
>Apparently, it's nigh impossible to get a project approved to just understand something better-- you always have to link it back to cancer, diabetes or alzheimer's or something. The people giving the grants want prestige and shallow results.

Do you see how these cancerous systems always find its seeds in the needless bureaucracy of collectivist principles? We need to attack it at the CORE so freedom can flow from the top down back to the scientists hands, wrestled away from some individual corrupt people occupying their titles currently in government.
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>>79967988
The most correct yet least self-aware thing it's possible to say.
If you don't immediately dismiss someone coming at you with "BRO IT'S LIKE ALL LIES AND SHIT WAKE UP I KNOW THE TRUTH" you are literally part of the problem.
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>>79978366
>This is what was originally conveyed
Not at all. What was conveyed is that someone doesn't trust science because they see it as some kind of big bad authority figure telling them what to think. That's not what science is, but /pol/ fails to understand this.
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>>79978852
Hannan said it in less.

>The facts are ahead of the research.
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>>79967988
Cap'n'Cuck
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>>79967988

he's talking about his own maddening double think idealogy... right?
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>>79979269
I doubt it.

He's exactly the kind of man Orwell was warning us against.

Marxists and communists (and their modern ilk: the globalist) have been singing the same tune since the start.
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>>79978824

Who knows at this point. I hope America dies (at least the jewish version of it), but that whites survive and eventually create something better. You never know what will happen, though. If things really do come crashing down in a big happening like scenario, it would be quite possible to enforce a mass deportation or killing type scenario. People get radical and angry when their survival is at stake.
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It's true. Remainiacs lied, and lied, and lied, and they got their asses handed to them.
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>>79979211

The populaces individual opinions on the "science" that comes out (read:sensationalist headlines that go through a telephone game with millions of people) are what I was concerned about. Maybe I misinterpreted you. Whoops.
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>>79972341
is that guy wearing cthulhu as underpants?
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I hate how leftists are always convinced everything they present is a fact.
This isn't even a hyperbole, look at the shit they do. Politifact, anyone?
Fucking ministry of truth-tier.
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>>79967988

Surely that should be a tedx

>i will talk as if my worldview in indisputable fact for several minutes

Yeah, thats new for a liberal.
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>>79967988
Really entices one to ponder
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>>79970334
hoist by their own petard
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>>79970804

amazing how it predicted the use of internet culture in the downgrading of man
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>>79972341
>, even "serious" media ones,
guardian is not a serious media outlet
I'm glad it's almost dead

every single liberal rag is considered a "serious" media outlet now.
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>>79979417

America will go out in a whimper, not a bang, I believe. It's the way democracy goes - authoritarian systems crash much faster. But the authoritarian system crashes are on the grandest of scales, while democracy kind of just goes into a coma and slowly rots away on the death bed.
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>>79978553
we seriously fucked up the water supply or something
the weird part is, only upper-middle class people seem to express this.
Some rich-person drugs that passed through the urine into the drinking water supply and couldn't be filtered, perhaps?
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>Lose debate and democratic referendum
>WE'RE IN A POST-FACTUAL SOCIETY!!!!!
This is weapons grade levels of butthurt
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>>79971337
>left dehumanizes us
>get attacked just for supporting a political candidate
>mass leftist riots everywhere
>media ignores and covers it up completely
>BUT TREAT THEM KINDLY!

how did getting nailed to a cross feel, jesus?
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>>79967988
It's like they get it but don't go all the way to its conclusion.
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>>79975995

European superiority lies in the fact we are not fanatical inbred sand dwellers, a roman emperor summed this up when he mentioned how the cool attitude of the west will always overcome the feverish fanaticism of the east.

Can't find the quote tho, maybe Trajan
Our biggest problem is jewish critical theory
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>>79979987

Usually 50% of the population is average looking. This means 50% is below average, and those are cherrypicked pictures to try to shoot down the average males spirit - to see him comrades fall to the brainwash, it angers him. 50% of humans have statistically, I don't think this is anything recent.
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>>79979795

Well, one thing is for sure, we'll have a much better ability to guess what will happen to whites worldwide in the next couple of decades. It will happen in our lifetimes, whether they wake up from their dreams and want to live or slowly disappear. I just don't believe we're finished yet.
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>>79980266
It has nothing to do with the way they look you dumbass
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>>79978673
Underrated post.
Can we be friends?
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>>79977181

While on a public discussion forum, it's best to put out ideas from all sides, to gather those few quality people out of the hundreds currently watching us post, to appeal to reason, not emotion, and get them on our side. Movements are won with quality, not just quantity. But I do agree that while a part of /pol/ has to attack, make memes, and overall humiliate everything the liberals stand for to overcome the brainwashing, the other half of /pol/ needs to appeal to reason to ease these people into the redpill after they've been snapped out of their child-like state. There isn't exactly one right set of ideals, so it's best to encourage the individual to better himself, his reasoning, and his ideas, and allow the seeds to be sown from the bottom up, not the top down.
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>>79976192
You live in some kind of idealistic fantasy world friend if you think the "scientific community" isn't often very anti-science when the money is right... or wrong.
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>>79967988

After watching 60 Minutes reporting on Ted Talks I just gave up. Its all scripted and coached pushing agendas.
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>>79980661

You guys are both right. He's talking about the ideal, and the ideal itself is what it is. But you're talking about the individuals that make up the science, and you're also right about corruption happening because it always happens between the few individuals, and those few individuals control the horde.

Tl;dr you guys are making enemies out of each other over a simple misunderstanding
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>>79980661
liberals will completely agree that cigarette companies lied about cancer studies
they don't even realize that by agreeing to this they're agreeing that science is not some perfect religion and it is just as corrupt as anything else
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>economy
>economy
>money
>benefits
>economy

They still don't get it. It's about more than money. Holy shit. These people are so materialistic it's mind-blowing.
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> "the edgycated blamed the less edgycated"
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>>79967988
Even if he's a cuck shill that statement in the image is not wrong.

We have moved to a post factual society, as evidenced by the prevalence of social movements mobilized entirely by memes. The fact that people still honestly believe that Michael Brown had his hands up, Sandra Bland was murdered by the police is evidence of this, and Trump is a racist is evidence of this.

The internet killed the illusion of objectivity, and so no one even bothers to pay lip-service to it anymore. Journalism is editorialism and the facts don't matter to anyone, all that matters is the cause.
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>>79980925
These people legitimately think "white culture doesn't exist." What did you expect?
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>>79980836
>making enemies out of each other

nah m8. i'm just posting words on an anonymous image board. it was a once sentence statement and nothing more. don't project your feelings onto me friend - they don't belong here.
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>>79976190
>muh economy
>muh poor billionaires
Freedom ain't free
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>>79967988
wtf i hate brexit now
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>>79977618
Cuckold is a terminal disease
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>>79980939
>Journalism is editorialism and the facts don't matter to anyone, all that matters is the cause.

Its so factually true but so morally dispicable.
>lets throw away all our values, culture, and reason for the greater good

This mindset is a plague. Collectivism in practice is cancerous.
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>>79980836
No, we are identifying the problem and attacking it directly.

The Academia has been subverted in its entirety nearly completely, and as the TED talk above shows, its become the new preachers and priests for the new religion of globalism.

Defending it in any way as "oh well, at least its not christians" is idiocy, and will allow the perversion of science to continue.
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>>79981213

When I speak to you, I actually more concerned with trying to reason with the hundreds of people watching us speak. I don't actually care about the person behind the monitor, I'm sorry if it came off that way. I'm not the best at expressing myself.
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>>79967988

I'm staggered that this fuck doesn't understand that the sheer fucking arrogance of his attitude is part of the reason for Brexit. Our nations are not an experiment for your delusional globalist project you gimpy eyed commie madman.
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>>79977631
I don't believe there's a single point of control for this "cancer." I don't think it's just the elites, or some cabal that's pushing it. Corporations using accusations of racism to bludgeon opposition to their economic plans are just availing themselves of a convenience.

The real problem is that this infectious ideology has captures the minds of a lot of our elites. I think Soros might actually believe in multiculturalism, even as he profits from causing chaos. Merkel doesn't seem to be taking any bribes, and she stands to lose the most when things predictably go tits-up. People will gang up on anyone who gets called "racist" for free, without any need for any kind of recompense at all. Even the lowest bum would feel better about themselves for spitting on a racist.

It's a religion, one born of a cushy guilt-ridden lifestyle, but a religion nonetheless. It's not going anywhere as long as the conditions that allowed it to rise remain.

We will have to go through some bad times before we have good times.
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>>79981408

You do well, anon. I like you.
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>>79980925
All EU remainers have is the 'muh economy' argument because they know they lost the immigration and multicult argument over 10 years ago
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Lol this guy is right on the money on accident
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>>79981527
>We will have to go through some bad times before we have good times.

While I do believe this is true, I don't think we should be trying to use their """logic""" and methodology against them, as this is what they are doing to actually cause the downfall of society in the first place.

Do not make enemies of your allies! I am on your side.
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>>79981221
>Upsetting people who can destroy your country
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Its true, but what these nu-males don't realize is that they're the fucking problem. This whole TED talk is why stats and evidence don't matter anymore. Some balding socialist faggot goes on stage with an opinion backed up by some numbers and colourful pie charts that don't mean anything and starts spewing information at people. And they all come out of it thinking he's the smartest person who ever lived because they don't have enough time and don't get paid to sit on the internet reading about socio-economics and fact checking all those statistics they probably don't even remember the sources for, only that they "had sources". They don't have time to learn about statistics analysis unlike these cunts who go to Uni and then straight into TED talks who have hours of time on their hands.

Debate should be done on a point-by-point basis. These large sweeping talks and bombardment with statistics that are usually wrong or based on bad math or deliberate manipulation aren't doing anyone any good and are driving people towards emotional arguments because they don't have time to post on Reddit and read science blogs all fucking day BECAUSE THEY HAVE REAL JOBS THAT TAKE UP 8-10 HOURS OF THEIRS.

It gets me so fucking wound up.
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>>79981527

Yes, what's going on now is like the jew's Frankenstein monster just running amok. I do not believe at all that they would have liked this just massive influx of niggers into Europe which is guaranteed to cause major repercussions in a short span of a few decades, preferring much more the slow-boil technique they were already using.

But about your "cabal" comment, the Jewish Question is absolutely grounded in reality. It's quite clear jews are at the source of modern ideologies. Now, whether that's conscious or unconscious on their part is another question (I'd say a mix of both), but that they're the root of the rot is undeniable.

I suggest you read Dr. Kevin MacDonald's "Culture of Critique" if you want to see how it's so that jews slowly but surely took over American culture, academia, and politics, ideas which then spread to the rest of the West.
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>>79981408

>normies attempt to change /pol/

It's clear that you lack an understanding of how 4chan works. Instead of trying to manipulate it to conform to whatever viewpoint you currently have you would be wise to shut the fuck up and lurk more. The topic is science and you're trying to pander to some imaginary feelings that may be floating around in the ether. Science is brutal, science is honest. Science is bloody - it will dissolve your insecurities, crush your hope, and lift the wool over your eyes. Fuck your feelings dick beater and the feelings of every other fantasy you think gives a fuck about your posts.

>signed,

>a stem major
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>>79982313
sad part is that everything actually based in facts and science gets coopted by these faggots.

Slowly went from TED talks being good, to introducing TEDx absolute garbage social bullshit, to TEDx being just TED.
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>>79980209
That's all well and good when they are actually inbred bands of nomads, wandering around, killing each other pointlessly, and being limited by the resources they're able to exploit.

But we're there with grain aplenty whenever it looks like they might have a famine. Whenever there's an outbreak of disease, we send our finest doctors in to "make a difference." They have full access to all the wonders we've created.

And what happens? They have babies. Lots and lots of babies. No more miscarriages due to lack of proper nutrition, and every little one survives to reproductive age.

Now, they're outbreeding us, 4 to 1 in some cases.
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>>79982313
>It gets me so fucking wound up.

You have no idea. You've typed out my exact grievances.
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>have capitalism
>avoid globalization

top kek logic on /pol/.
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>>79982408
I need to switch my sleeping schedule again, day /pol/ is fucking cancer.
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>>79982408
>It's clear that you lack an understanding of how 4chan works.

Been here since '08, I think I get the gist of the place.

> Instead of trying to manipulate it to conform to whatever viewpoint you currently have you would be wise to shut the fuck up and lurk more

Please ignore me and listen to the ideas I am trying to convey. Appeal to reason, not emotion.

>Science is brutal, science is honest. Science is bloody - it will dissolve your insecurities, crush your hope, and lift the wool over your eyes. Fuck your feelings dick beater and the feelings of every other fantasy you think gives a fuck about your posts.

Couldn't agree more. It's the individuals, not science itself, who twist around the public perception of science, I am aware of this.
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>>79976190

>mountain jew
>wanting freedom all to himself

Pick two
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I refuse to listen to the opinions of vegan heroin users like this guy.
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>>79967988
Lefties think there are NO LEGITIMATE POINTS OF DISAGREEMENT WHATSOEVER with them. Faggots like this LITERALLY think there are NO points of view but their own.
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>>79982377
Jews are among the most prominent intellectuals because ashkenazim were selected for intelligence back in the middle ages. They're something like a full standard deviation above average.

I think that's more likely why they're so overrepresented among the intellectuals. I've known a lot of Jews, and it's hard for me to believe there wouldn't be at least one whistleblower on the whole conspiracy in the few centuries they've apparently been running this game.

It's the same reason Europeans were able to industrialize, while it doesn't look like Africa ever will-- Europeans were selected for intelligence during the middle ages. Beggars died in the streets, farm workers barely earned enough to feed themselves, and so died without having children, while the children of merchants and nobles had to move down in society to fill their places.
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>>79983005

You threw the baby out with the bathwater - you're ignoring the fact that the populace is currently docile and ignorant, just because the idea is coming out of a cuck's mouth. Try focusing thoughts upon the idea itself, instead of thinking about the cuck. I'm not sure why you would be thinking about the cuck.
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>>79982313
the feeling of being wound up is a sign you could work towards a goal

like propaganda for your side
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>>79982423
>>79982476

And then they have the gaul to turn around and say the working class who's money they intend to leech off are just dumb xenophobes because they didn't waste 8 years of their lives getting a sociology degree and have the connections to be given a soap box.
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>>79967988
that in this whole process of thinking, there isnt even one fucking thought about taking less immigrants.
This doesnt exist in his brain.
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>>79983161
>like propaganda for your side

How foolish is the person who poisons his own movement. Dressing up truth to make it look pretty for the masses is exactly what we are fighting against. Do not give in!
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>>79983308
reminder that guardian literally published an article about how voting ruins democracy

https://archive.is/gF5iU
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>>79982617
Read the damned image, it has the opposite effect of what he's saying. He's either trying to discredit us or he's trolling. Or he's really that stupid.
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>>79983161

But I have my own shit to worry about. I have a full time job and soon I'm going to college to study maths, chemistry and sceince while still working 24 hours a week at least. I don't want to have to give a fuck about politics. I don't want to spend all day arguing with socialist ideolouges on the internet or on a stage. I just want to do some science, some exercise, have a bit fun with my firends and hobbies and get my dick wet. That's it.
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>>79967988
>Alexander Betts is Professor of Forced Migration and International Affairs, the Director of the Refugee Studies Centre at the University of Oxford, and a Fellow of Green-Templeton College.

>His research focuses on the politics and economics of refugees. His books include Protection by Persuasion: International Cooperation in the Refugee Regime (Cornell University Press 2009), Survival Migration: Failed Governance and the Crisis of Displacement (Cornell University Press 2013), and the forthcoming Mobilising the Diaspora: How Refugees Challenge Authoritarianism (Cambridge University Press 2016) and Refugee Economies: Forced Displacement and Development (Oxford University Press, 2016).

An expert on cuckoldry.
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>>79983665
hilarious that they let this person host such a controversial talk when his point of view is incredibly biased.
It would be like letting varg argue for the leave side
TED has lost absolutely all respect it had.
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>>79983146

>JQ is a coincidence

I completely disagree. Jew deserves all that's coming his way. Look at the entirety of European history: he has always bled the host nation for as much as he could, only to raise enough consciousness as to his activities to the point where he was kicked out. They're the most ethnocentric people on the planet, coming from the most racist, hateful religion on the planet (Talmudism), and that they're behind communism, multiculturalism, feminism, pornography, usury, Hollywood, the homosexual agenda, gun control, and on and on is just a statement of ignorance on the JQ to say it's merely coincidence and due to their IQ (Ashkenazis are also 30% more likely to be schizophrenic). Jews are bad news, anon. Look into it more. All the pieces of the puzzle fall into place when you really grasp jew's interference in European history and development.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts1aidG_hjk
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>>79983430
>>79983161
Propaganda doesn't necessarily mean it's untrue, but it does imply a lot of bias and things conveniently left out.

It's probably a bad idea to call what you want to do propaganda.
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>>79983647
>has to work 24 hours a week while studying
>is against socialism

Son you got cucked
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>>79982539

globalization != getting raped by immigrants
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>>79984249

Yeah. Propaganda is usually used to dumb down people, and when the propaganda is questioned, it's usually met with ridicule. Ridicule and reason do not go together, so you lose all chance at making an ally of that audience.

But I very much do understand what you mean.
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>>79984297

24 hours of week a week isn't hard. But I'm against it because I don't want it because its bad for society.
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>>79983146

Furthermore, there may not necessarily be a Protocolian-like plot to enslave the goyim (honestly, I think there is at the top), but it is a fact of history that when they are the elite of a gentile population (while being a total minority in said country), they bleed it for all its worth, just simply because they have such a ruthless in-group/out-group perspective. .

There have been a number of jews who spoke against jewish influence, btw: Bobby Fischer, Stanley Kubrick, Gilead Atzmod are just some of the more recent ones.
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>>79967988
Alexander Betts is channeling Carl the Cuck in Ops pic.
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>>79977475
>>79977475
>>79977475

This is absolutely correct. We need to show the media and politicians have played leftists like a fiddle, saying "Yes!Diversity! End Hate!" while continuing to blow up the Middle East fo special interests and to create a global crisis.

If you bring down their role models, they will question their own beliefs.

Everything you see a media article saying "We need to end hate." or "Racism is on the rise!" This isn't meant to convert us or the average person.

These articles are designed for leftists to reinforce their ideals, because the facade is cracking. They need a steady supply of articles and "social injustices" to cling to because leftists have already begun eating each other. These messages are making everyone miserable and hopeless. Without the social media circle jerk, they would start siding with us on many issues.

So we need to point out media Bullshitter whenever we see it. Get leftists off the internet, and they'll see what's actually going on in the world.
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>>79984232
Well, early on, the west had a negative association with moneylending, but it was an absolutely necessary function for society. It could have been any non-christian minority that filled that niche, but it turned out to be the Jews.

Their tight-knit community and distrust of outsiders made it impossible for the host society to eventually convert and absorb them, so they just continued breeding among themselves, continuing along a different evolutionary path.

It's really really hard for me to believe that any of this isn't just a result of human temperament, especially given what we see anywhere in the world where genes really seem to determine someone's eventual life outcome.
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>>79984856
bullshit*
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>>79967988
>steps toward a more inclusive world

Hang this piece of shit is step one.
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>>79976008
A. Against groupthink
B. Liberals

You can pick only one
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>>79967988
"""""""""""inclusive world""""""""""""

GIVE ME YOURS, ITS MINE TOO
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>>79967988
I don't even have to click it or read about to know it will be some leftist tripe.

Fuck this gay earth.
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>>79970735
Underrated.
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>Politic has become a divide for, and against globalisation

and it should have never become as such, THAT'S why Britain voted to leave. Because we don't want forced globalisation, we want democracy in our country
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Facts never mattered, and if they did, they'd be illegal, which is why SJWs hate facts.
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>>79984914

What I'm trying to drive home is that they are deadly to our societies, whether they're doing it on purpose or not, and should be removed at any cost. As you say, they have a different evolutionary path, one that always contradicts ours.
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>>79970334
Post-factual.

Well said, anon.
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>TED
Lel.
Basically just the Guardian Opinion page delivered on stage.
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>>79967988
>listening to ted talks
>literally bullshit for idiots

Oh jeez.
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>>79985038

You're sadly mistaken if you think using that us vs them reasoning against them will convert anybody or do anything to further your cause. You end up yelling at a brick wall if you think like them, because both sides are learning nothing but spouting both of most aspects of their side as truth
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>>79967988
>people voted leave
>it must be because they hate facts
I fucking hate the media class, god damn.
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>>79985337
sadly it was actually good at first
then the leeches realized they could pander their message under TED's name and created TEDx.
Then slowly coopted TED and replaced it with TEDx shit.
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>>79967988
Also it's really fucking devious to show NI as remain, when there was a close race with a clear divide.
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>>79985409

There are always some individuals that are strong enough of mind to be salvaged, but there also comes a point where people (for instance, Carl the Cuck) have gone beyond the pale of reason, and our differences will only be solved in good old-fashioned violence.
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>>79985264
I don't think Jews are anywhere near the threat you think they are. It's entirely possible that a similar corrosive ideology would have sprung up even without Marx. At the end of the day, white minds were fertile ground for bad ideas, regardless of their source.
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>>79976641
Albert Lasker was the father of modern advertising. Another big kike.
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>>79985683
this
the coincidence really sort of is a coincidence
jews are far more likely to attend academia, and academia is a breeding ground for marxism
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>>79969122
>But that implies Brexit was the objectively wrong choice, which it wasn't.

I think he means Brexit bit globalist commies in the ass.
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>>79985660
>but there also comes a point where people (for instance, Carl the Cuck) have gone beyond the pale of reason, and our differences will only be solved in good old-fashioned violence.

I understand the part of the populations need to upheaval and violence. A man with conviction is a principled man regardless of whether or not I believe his views, but try to understand you and your family will most likely be on the receiving end of that violence.
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>noddle armed balding commie tells us why the eu is a good thing
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>>79985409
I didn't start the war.

Nevertheless, war it is.
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>>79986097
>war it is.

Doing away with diplomacy and democracy for social values ruins economic values which in turn harms those very social values you would try to preserve during that war. The few victors in the outcome of the war, are those who funded it. Not the people who rallied together.

Tl;dr don't die for Israel
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>>79969182
The only time the world actually became more "globalized" was when the Old World rediscovered the New World.

From then on, trade has flowed around the entire planet.

Globalization is a euphemistic term for homogenization and corporatization happening at the same time.
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>>79967988
>The left now care about creating a world of misinformation and feels before reals
>just because they lost to nationalistic sentiment
kek the fire rises
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>>79967988
Stupid as fuck. People have always put feels before reals. It's the way we think and operate. And also the reason why democracy will never work.
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>>79979719
You do realize none of the words in that pic comes from the game right?
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>>79967988
>TED
Stopped reading.
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>>79985683

Are you white? Do you care about the future of Western Civilization and white people? Do you think it's natural for a biological subspecies that dominated the world over 100 years ago to now be relinquishing that power, allowing itself to be conquered, and slowly killing itself? All of this shows an extremely fucked up psyche, to live in such self-denial and powerlessness, and this psyche is a result of an alien race (jew) having an inordinate amount of control over the influences on the mind of whites worldwide. It's like jewish ideas and perspectives have constantly been whispered into our ears to the point where we don't have our own culture and foundation anymore. We don't know who we are anymore.

>At the end of the day, white minds were fertile grounds for bad ideas, regardless of the source.

Yes, it's true. But the source is the jew. Thus you recognize the source and FIX IT, if you don't like what's going on, that is.

Honestly, if you care about all this stuff, you should look into the Jewish Question more, something which you've obviously not looked into much. I already told you about the best book (from an academic perspective) where you can read about it. Here's the PDF: http://www.angelfire.com/rebellion2/goyim/je1.pdf

That Red Ice video I linked you to earlier is also a great overview on the history of jews on European peoples' history.
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>>79985828

What's the source of Marxism? Errrrr, just another of the endless coincidences, right??
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>>79986476
Yes it does


It's from the Metal Gear Solid 2 codec call near the ending
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>>79982408
Based stem majors
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>>79986000

>Try to understand you and your family will most likely be on the receiving end of that violence.

Right, but so what? Precisely because I'm a man of "conviction" and "principled" means that I care more about the future of civilization and my race rather than my own personal safety.
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>>79980925
Fucking this.

>If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!
t. Samuel Adams
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>>79986990

Sacrifice is noble.
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>>79981527
sensible post and i agree
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>>79985683
>>79985828


Btw, I forgot about these old infographics. They're a great springboard for what I'm talking about here, and you can research it more if you care to. There's just boundless amounts of evidence as to how the jews are terrible for our race, to the point that it's laughable to deny.
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>>79985683
>>79985828
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>>79987221

>tfw guiding somebody towards the right sensible conclusions through healthy discussion

Feels good man
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>>79976190

The Pound has been falling for 100 years, idiot. Zoom out and Brexit can barely be seen.
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Why is he talking about Hillary Clinton in a speech about Brexit?
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>>79982248

Yeah, better to just bend over and take a bully's dick up your ass, right...?
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>he blue areas show Remain and the red areas Leave. When I looked at this, what personally struck me was the very little time in my life I've actually spent in many of the red areas. I suddenly realized that, looking at the top 50 areas in the UK that have the strongest Leave vote, I've spent a combined total of four days of my life in those areas.

This is the problem.

They genuinely don't believe that there are large swathes of the country that are socially conservative. As far as they're concerned, the only people that lean to the right are evil aristocrats. The only time rich, leftist southerners go to Northern England is to go to universities there - also populated by rich, left wing southerners.
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>>79967988
> those that fear multiculturalism and those that embrace it
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong

It should read those that suffer it and those that benefit and live apart from it.

The working class has to suffer it with extra pressure on housing and other services and jobs in their communities while the middle class live apart from it because immigrants can't afford their streets and get huge benefits from it from cheap cleaners and builders to rising house prices caused by the extra demand further down the property chain.

That's why. Not because anyone who doesn't agree with it is raging racist or an uneducated idiot.

I'd like to see any of these fucks try and survive on an estate for one week surrounded by this shit.
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>>79970996
Of course, by being more inclusive he means excluding white people more and calling them racist when they speak up.
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>page 8

nope
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QD1LjoMCn4
le globalist faec at 5:37
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Why do liberals and especially globalists always use such vague words and such vague terminologies and never really pinpoint exactly what they're trying to say?

Because they don't actually know their own end goals and they don't actually know what they're trying to accomplish. They are merely holding up a narrative that they've been sold all their lives that is "safe" and "comfortable" and "unconfrontational", but they don't actually know what that narrative means for them.

They're also afraid of talking about actual problems, so all their words are designed to be as safe and as unconfrontational as possible. In the end though, it just makes them seem like they have no idea what they're talking about and they are just reading off of a mental script they got from the latest Purge sequel.
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>>79970735
does this imply that 43% of the 1% are jews or that 43% of all jews are part of the 1%?
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>>79971337
what everyone else has said + it worked for the left, didn't it?
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>>79991898

It tries to imply the former, but accidentally says the latter.
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>>79992966
>it worked for the left, didn't it?

Yeah, and look where winning through those tactics got America. What a mess. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face.
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>>79991898
Jews are 3% of the population. If 43% of them were in the 1%, that'd mean that the 1% comprises more than 1.29% of the population (assuming ofc that 100% of the 1% isn't jewish).
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>>79992984
i thought the autiste meme brigades were above such mistakes desu
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>>79990882
>Why do liberals and especially globalists always use such vague words and such vague terminologies and never really pinpoint exactly what they're trying to say?

who do you know that makes the simplest notions complicated? :^>
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>>79993245
Yeah, well, you try getting an education without the Jew gold you pried from your dead bubbe's hands.
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>>79993245

Yeah. Its a poor graphic anyway, all it tells me is that 0.5% of the 1% is jewish. Not a very convincing look if you ask me.
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Which truth?

Whose truth?

Why does it seem to always be leftists who decry things that when things do not go their way, it's because people don't know the so-called "truth", like they're some esoteric cult.
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>>79967988
Politics was never about facts, and always about emotion.
Rhetoric is more persuasive than logic, always has been and always will be.
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>>79993601
It's a mistake to think that people are rational. There's no overarching logic to it, it just is. It feels right to them so they stick with it.

You'd be surprised how rarely most people actually think.
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>>79993705
So, what you're saying is the only counter to this shit is insanely aggressive, EXTERMINATUS-tier fervor?
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>>79993557
>all it tells me is that 0.5% of the 1% is jewish. Not a very convincing look if you ask me
it could be very convincing if you know how many jews there are
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>>79967988
Not going to read it, I can tell its bull. I can also tell you why Brexit happened because I live here.

1. Gradual erosion of UK laws in favour of Brussels law
2. Gradual loss of sovereignty
3. Losing British culture
4. Inflation climbing above wages for a few years running
5. England subsidising Wales, Scotland and NI.
6. Rotherham scandal
7. The failure of certain outside cultures to integrate into British society
8. Rising population driving down wages and increasing rent and house prices
9. An NHS that is being overstretched beyond capacity
9. The threat of TTIP and if it passes, the privatisation of said health service.
10. Junkers intention of forming a European military.
12. Germany's refugee policy

You don't need to be some gifted economist to find this out. And it's all perfectly reasonable.
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>>79976192
>here's my personal definition of an already existing word
>I'm going to build my entire "argument" on this and this alone
Sorry bud, this is not your safe space.
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>>79994274
finally someone who understands, I'm sick of these stupid teens falling for the propaganda.
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>>79986647
>Are you white? Do you care about the future of Western Civilization and white people?
I am white, but I wouldn't say I care about "white civilization." I'm more of an ethno-nationalist. For example, I claim Ireland, England and Germany as my heritage. I very much hope they un-cuck themselves and become bastions of their respective cultures, with people who take pride in their history but don't necessarily desire to conquer any others.

Philosophically, I wish the best on Rome and Greece, seeing as they originated most of the good ideas that my society is based on. Sort of the same respect the Japanese have for the ancient Chinese.

I don't feel any more commonality with, say, the Swiss or Swedish than I do for the Japanese. I mean, I love them all for various reasons, but I will never be any part Swiss, Swedish or Japanese. This is an idea which has been bred out of most of Europe, and it's kind of become a point of pride for Americans that it doesn't matter where you come from (precarious as that is in an age where a politician can unilaterally import a million refugees over the course of a very few years).

I think this is the biggest thing that whites are missing. Most of us have no instinctive patriotic fire in us. If we have it at all, we don't value our sense of identity, often choosing to identify with the human race as a whole instead. If someone in funny clothes from a far away land got into some conflict with one of our own, we don't automatically side with them. This is probably a good thing IMO, but it also seems to mean that if 300 of those funny strangers move in to our home, we don't see it as a problem.

It's not necessarily a Jewish scheme that we're like this, it's just a consequence of our evolution. Coming together to trade with outsiders rather than killing them outright from xenophobia was a huge advantage in the varied geography of stone/bronze age Europe. But now, that commonality with outsiders is a huge liability.
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Marxist-Leninist ideologues are not human, they will subvert and destroy from within if you allow them. They have to be purged.
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>>79976190
If the EU is so awesome why aren't you clamoring to Swenter?
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>>79967988
agree with that top sentence of pic but came to opposite conclusion what do
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>>79997754

Realize that the topic was is right, but the structure of his logic was messed up and try to understand the reasons you believe the topic was right
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>>79986647
Basically, what I'm saying is that the problem lies in our own temperament. If it wasn't the Jews, it might be the Chinese or the Russians. As for how to fix it, I don't know. Maybe a campaign to show the advantages of patriotism. Make it into something other than a thought crime. Make it not considered horrible and racist to want to have a homeland that's your own, and to live there without it being displaced by foreigners.*

Also, I don't know exactly what you'd plan to do with the Jews, but it can't be anything I'd wish on future generations. I do NOT want to give any central power the ability to oppress anyone, even if it's utterly deserved. How could they not eventually misuse that power? And a society that endorses oppression of one group might happily endorse, or at least allow yet another group to be oppressed. Then another.

*A sane return to patriotism will never happen though-- if the left gets too weak to suppress such a middling idea as this, there will be things much worse ready to jump out at them-- like the explosion of a volcano after years of pressure build-up. By using extreme characterizations of even their mildest political opponents, they've forced them into the same ideological box as some really nasty shit. People who would normally be their polite opposition now hang with the types who want to finish what Goebbels started. When you've been told you're evil for your deeply held beliefs, it makes it easy to associate yourself with some truly evil shit. We're all so sick of the imposed guilt and moral manipulation that it's become easy to just tune out our true conscious and let ourselves go over the deep end. And I really can't blame anyone who does.
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>>79994274
>I can tell it's bull
Actually it isn't 100% false
That quote in the OP screenshot is accurate, it's just accurate in that it's been the truth for the past decade. Brexit was the first truth you've had in a very log time
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>>79997754
he is not self aware. possible retarded
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>>79967988
Does this guy have AIDS?
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>>79998819

>By using extreme characterizations of even their mildest political opponents, they've forced them into the same ideological box as some really nasty shit. People who would normally be their polite opposition now hang with the types who want to finish what Goebbels started.

So beautifully put. Thank you for that.
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>>79967988
Here's the problem:
The Anti-brexit crowd served out just as much if not more BS than the Pro-Bexit crowd and yet we're supposed to take these assholes seriously when they complain about the devaluing of empirical evidence.
This is a problem with liberalism writ-large, they just can't see how utterly hypocritical they are when they accuse others of acting on emotion.
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>page 6

Not on my watch, I won't let you die
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Literally what is the argument for globalism?
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>>80002840
I think the line of thinking is that if there are no more borders, there will be no more racism, and it'll be awesome to be able to go anywhere in the world you want. Also they think this will somehow magically end all wars.

Now, there's a lot of presuppositions you have to take as gospel for this to work, like that humans are fungible, that western liberalism and tolerance of different people should be obvious to everyone down to the San Bushmen, and that all human behavior is cultural, and anyone who doesn't like being around incompatible foreigners is just not enlightened enough.
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>>80002840
DUDE FUCK NATION STATES LMAO
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>>80002840
I've always thought that the main argument is economic, that
1. The free movement of people across borders allows labor to travel wherever it is needed, creating a more efficient economy.
2. There are basically no negative externalities to having such s system.
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>>80005807
that eventually evolves into borders unless patrolled. People always have in-group preferences because I talk to the people near me more than people far from me. So globalism breaks down when I start having preference for the people I interact with.
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