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>implying that Italians South and Greek are NOT WHITE
>I'm proud not to be a cuckold!
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>>79960187
>le divide and conquer
>le rubbing hands
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>>79960293
NOPE, im not of yours, the mass immigration is you problem, not mine. I'm more similar at Syrians that Italians North
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>greko-slavic

kek

My people came from central asia, we have nothing to do with greeks
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>>79961092

sauce ?
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>>79960187
>Near Eastern (Greco-Antolian)
>White
You know antolia is Turkey right?
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>>79961646
Sauce on what senpai? All the info is readily available in books and in google.

Bulgars were a nomadic tribe who lived in Central Asia. We got pushed out by the Mongols and established a big ass kingdom on the Volga river north of the Black Sea which fell apart and the sons of the Khan took parts of the tribe to different regions - current day Bulgaria and Macedonia, Italy (over 100 villages have Bulgar names there), Central Europe and others. Only we managed to hold on and survive until contemporary time.

My people's history can be traced 15000 years back to Central Asia and we are the oldest European country who has kept its name.

Since you are from Italy, here's something that happened earlier this month that you might find interesting:
http://archaeologyinbulgaria.com/2016/06/08/monument-of-ancient-bulgar-leader-altsek-opened-in-italys-celle-di-bulgheria-to-celebrate-ancient-bulgar-heritage/

That was one of the brothers who had fled the fall of the Bulgarian Kingdom on the Volga and established himself in Italy.
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>>79961646
Fascinating stuff
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>>79961845
I know that, I TOLD IT.
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>>79960187
>post yfw the Celtic and Germanic regions are going to have to be updated to include "Arab" soon
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>>79962293
OK my friend but we are not white!
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>>79963390
I have no probelm with Arabs-
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The map in the OP is wrong on so many levels I can spend a whole day correcting it.

Greeks have nothing to do with anatolians (not to be mistaken by the later arrivals t*rks who are slejuk middle eastern roaches)

Hungarians should be Magyars

Russians and slavs should not be barely overlapping, the Russians are slavs

Franks should cover all of France

I don't think the Andalusians are correctly placed on the Iberian peninsula, they weren;t that far east iirc (so9meone could correct me here)

Scandinavians should be broken up to several groups

Balts don't exist, they are Ruissian slavs

A lot of the connections suggested by having groups with two names are simply wrong. There is no greko-anatolian or greko-slavic, for example. The only correct ones are the germanic ones.

>>79963396
Italians, Greeks, Slavs, etc. are all white. Whiter than anyone else except Nordics.
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>>79963546
I think that Nordic are white, not us.
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>>79963698
Italians are white as fuck, don;t fall for the /pol/ meme trolling.
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>>79961646
It's probably true. The only bulgar I know is an insane coal burning birch with mongoloid cheekbones.
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>>79963798
Only Italian North are white, the italian south are not.
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>>79963960
Why?
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>>79964307
Have you ever SEEN a Sicilian?
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>>79964307
>because muh kingdom and shieet, south is diverse we should separate :-DDDDD
He must be some borbone asshole
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>>79964767
>>79964773
Oh wait, it's a troll thread, I apologize, I thought we were discussing history, carry on.

So sorry
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>>79964767
yes, and you?
we are an heterogenic nation
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ATTENTION PLEASE

to those new here who could be fooled by this:

OP is either a troll proxyfaggot or a JIDFproxyfaggot.

ignore this thread completely.
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>>79965084
no shit sherlock
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>>79960187

>Romania
>Greeco-Slavic

You ain't pulling that BS you Germanic rape baby.
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>>79965141
which part of "to those new here who could be fooled by this" did you miss?
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>>79964773
im not a borbone asshole, Lega Nord faggot.
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>>79965084
kek
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>>79965187
arent Romanians just Vlacho-Slavic?
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>>79968341
>Vlacho-Slavic?
we're a mix native european thraco-dacians ,getae tribes(being a bunch of dacian,scythian,germanic mix) and a drop of italo-greek-jewish blood
and 10-15% slavic
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>>79968341
inb4 we wuz dacians and shit

they didn't exist during that time

the Balkans were you, me, slav tribes and thracian leftovers
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>>79963546

>Balts don't exist

i bet balts would disagree
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>>79971112
>thracian leftovers
>says the thracianboo country with most historians and archaelogical discoveries
>a bunch of slavs on horses were able to change the genetic makeup of an entire country
Bulgarians look exactly like us and slovakians desu.
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>Slovenia
>Germanic
>not at least Slavo-Germanic
>Austria is literally more Slavic than Slovenia
Who made this map?
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>>79960187
change serbia croatia montenegro and bosnia to Dinaric
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>>79971324
How does that contradict anything I said? The Thracians who ruled the lands were mostly gone by that time, whatever was left was absorbed within the new Bulgar/Slav nation.

>>79971518
>Who made this map?

A fucking retard I bet my money on it. Slovenia literally has the slav word in its name ((germanic)) lol
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>>79971587
too early, you didn't exist back then just like the Romanians

the Balkans were Bulgars, Greeks, slavs and dying own Thracians. Anything else is propaganda and stupidity.,
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Bulgarians trying to overcome their inferiority complex by trying to bash greeks and anatolians
no one cares you dumb fucks
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>>79971751
>own

out*
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>>79971751
the map is supposed to be a ethnic group map
and we yugos are mostly native geneticlly
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>>79971794
Where did I bash you? Please quote it.

Lets see who has inferiority complex. I am not the one claiming the Western Roman Empire was somehow Greek top lel Talk about inferiority complex.
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>>79971657
They might have Germanic admixture, but completely Germanic? Absolute bullshit. It was probably a dirty scheming mountain Croat who made this map. Slovenians are well-known for self-hatred and denial when it comes to their Slavic roots.
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>>79960187
paint my country nongreen again and ill rek u
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>>79971964
The whole map is horseshit to the max. It has to be either purposeful troll or a specific ((agenda)) by a ((study group))
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>>79972007
Do most Zlovenes really believe they're Germans?
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>>79960187

>k*rds and s*rians are Greco-Anatolian
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>>79972207
You are no even on the map t*rk why are you posting?
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this is the only true meme map
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>>79972207
What is the significance of asterisks and why do roaches use it in place of letters?
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>>79961092
Bulgars did. But Bulgars were a small group that ruled Greeks and Thracians. Slavs came, became subjects of Bulgars, and then they over took Bulgars because of their larger numbers, album kept the name of the land because it was used before they arrived and they technically did take control of the same political entity.

But no, Bulgarians are like 80% pre-slavic genetically and have almost zero Central Asian mixture.
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>>79972153
nobody in my extended circle thinks this. probably some northslovenia are because of germanification around WWII. most ppl think we're slavs with austro-german cultural influences.
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>>79972346
because it's cursative to regard them as full human race considering the history
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>>79972399
>most ppl think we're slavs with austro-german cultural influences.
There's a similar sentiment in north and northwest Croatia as well.
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>>79963698
>>79963798
>>79963960
My father's father is from Messina and his mother is from Palermo.

My mother's father is from Milan and her mother is from west Alessandria.

I do not think that my father's family would consider themselves "white" as italian-americans consider themselves "white" but it depends on where in Italy you are talking. Italy is a fucking melting pot of all the bullshit in the area. The mediterranean sea was the one of the earlier super-highways of trade and travel.

Fuck off to arabworld if you're arab though
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>>79972166
can you guys start having kids? i want poland to stay white and polish
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>>79971964
Even if they had germanic mixed in it would be later at that point they should be pure slavs

>>79972340
kek, explain the wannabe meme

>>79972379
Historically and genetically not true.

We are roughly (depending on different studies) 50 to 60% slav, 40% to 50% Bulgar and 5 to 10% Thracian.

The Bulgar genes are roughly 50%.
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>>79972631
wel, north croats are more north than most of slovenes.
idk how we were so relatively succesful in yugoslavia, now other countries are cathcing up / surpassing Slovenia.
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>>79972782
FUCK OFF OPPRESSOR
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>>79963267
...you do realize roaches aren't white right?
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>>79972813
>wannabe
Yugos are measured to be around 183-185cm on average
while the dutch are "SELF REPORTED"around 182cm
yet they are still regarded as being the tallest in the world
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>>79972773
>I do not think that my father's family would consider themselves "white"

What then? Don't say mediterranean cuz that means white as well.
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>>79960187
> franks in croatia

What is this shit
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>>79972813
It's the same Serb posting this image everywhere. It's basically showing how Dinaric people (southern Croats, Serbs and Bosnians) are le ebin tall people and Dutchfags are just phonies who have managed to convince normies they're the tallest people on Earth when in fact Dinaric people are objectively the tallest Europeans, pic related.
>self-reported
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>>79973066
ahahaha fucking lol why have I never seen this before? is it an /int/ meme?
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>>79972898
>idk how we were so relatively succesful in yugoslavia
Not having gone through a 4 year long war just 20-25 years ago helps.
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Slavic DNA is R1a (east germans have slavic blood)
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>>79973204
kinda
its very dank
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>>79971237
truth has no moral judgement attached to it, whether they like it or not makes no difference for reality
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>>79960187
we did not came through so called gate of people ...we just came back
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>>79973304

I'm R1B (french) what does that make you and me?
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>>79973142
Also, notice how when measured, Scandis and Dutch come out to be 5'11"-5'11.5" while Dinaric people come out to be 5'11.5"-6'1" with a pool of 250-350 people measured (great accuracy).
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>>79973420
>R1B + French
You're either Gaulish or Frank, basically you're an ethnic french.
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>>79973120
The French army was in northern parts of Croatia for some time. You left a bermet recipe and parts of your culture
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>>79973572
>northern parts
Not just northern, they were in central and southern parts (Lika, northern Dalmatia) albeit not that long.
We have plenty of French loan words because of the fact.
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>>79973420
>>79973550
I like how most ancestry in the USA is germanic, I thought it would be english/irish
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>>79971751
>you didn't exist back then just like the Romanians
Romanians didn't had a state, that doesn't mean that the Romanians as a people weren't there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bulgarian_Empire
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>>79974395
Yeah Bulgarian inhabited by Bulgarians. You are just proving my point.
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>>79971751
Wtf are you talking about, are you implying nobody lived in the Carpathian Danubian space at all? Who were those people north of Danube? They were proto-Romanians, basically old Dacians and Thracians, mixed up with Romans left behind after Aurelian abandonned Dacia. Some migratory populations also settled around those parts, but the ethnic majority was Daco-Romans.
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>>79971112
>>79968341

Vlach is a linguistic group.When slavs came , they called the latin speakers vlachs.Romanains never identified as vlachs, not the people nor the country.This is a barbarous name given to us.

Coming back to our subject, vlachs are the romanised thraco-dacian tribes.

Romanians are romanised thraco-dacians+slavs+roman+whatever after 2000 years
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>>79963546
>Italians, Greeks, Slavs, etc. are all white. Whiter than anyone else except Nordics.

Wrong as fuck, only German peoples are white.
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>>79974528

second bulgarian empire was called Vlacho-Bulgarian Empire when Ioanitsa Caloian lived(a bulgarian of vlach origin)
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>>79974670
>>79974766
EVERY FUCKING TIME

>WE
>WUZ
>DACIANS

Fuck me!!! I can't take this shit anymore. I'm going to /sp/ to watch the game. FUCK!
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>>79974528
In case you didn't knew, the Empire was Romanian and Bulgarian and the rulers had in their title Emperors of Bulgarians and Vlachs (Romanians).
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>>79974787
I AM WHITE.
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>>79974894
>no arguments
>uses WE WUZ meme

Nice exit there!
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>>79974837
Only in our textbooks lol, nobody called it that except for administrative purposes like you can say different regions of an Empire/Kingdom.

Nothing to do with anything.

Kaloyan was straight up descended from Asparuh.

>off to /sp/, I literally can;t take Romanian shitposting anymore, I just can't
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>>79974971
I am not. Mixed and sad about it.
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>>79974894

this is the common accepted history by every today historian.its absolutely logic too.Read an encyclopedia.According to Californian institute romanians have a continuity traced since the first culture, the CUucuteni-ryptilian
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>>79974894

Trianon, bitch.
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>>79975052

its Caloian Ioanitsa(romanian name) , and according to all chronicles existent he was vlach.
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>>79960187
Karelians are in all actuality more similar to Ostrobothnians and Southwest Finns than Savonians or Kainuu Finns are.
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>>79973765
it depends on the area I guess
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>>79975072
What are you mixed with?
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Romanians are the source of I2 haplogroup, it appeared in West of black Sea , and was the main gnetic marker of Cucuteni.In Romania also the biggest diversity of I2 is found.

But this is not the latest surprise.Even the R1 in romanians is inherited from the steppe Getae-Sarmatians. R1a-Z280 outnumbers R1a-M458 among Romanians,[53] the opposite phenomena is typical for Poles, Czechs, Croats Bulgarians and Hungarians.

So where as all the other europeans have R1-M458 salvic, romanians have the pre-slavic indo-european R1a-Z280
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>>79960187
We are not greco anatolian DELET THIS

We are the only caucasians
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>>79974956
Anon... no such thing existed. I am flabbergasted that such fairy tales can ecen be taken seriously.

Some government functionaries prolly decided to make that shit up to revitalise national pride or something, but it is absurd.

Not trying to offend you, but there was never a Bulgarian-Romanian anything lwt alone a dualistic empire. That's just... mind boggling.
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>>79975052
Pope Innocent III in a letter to Kaloyan:
"We, knoing that your ancestors were originally from Rome"
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>>79964307
leave troll.
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>>79975403
Hello idiot, look at this:
>>79973304
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>>79975516
Yeah Alcek's descendants... the map in the first few posts
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>>79975502
I'm not trying to offend you also, but the Emperors of that Bulgarian only Empire bore in their titles this: Emperors of Bulgarians and Vlachs!
Fairytale hah!
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>>79975284
Iranian and possibly Azeri. I guess it could be worse, but I feel like shit about the fact that if I have children with a white woman, the kids won't be white and I will have used up one woman who should be giving birth to whites. If you extend the Nuremburg laws my great-grandchildren could be white, but the laws don't actually cover anyone but Germans and Jews as far as I know. Got any input on this, /pol/?
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>>79975403

Haplogroup H2 (P96) seems to be primarily European, and very ancient. It was recently found in Neolithic Iberia and in Linear Pottery culture[1][2]

>>79975502

its the official history.Open an encyclopedia.
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>>79975153
Anon... that was a nickname given by the Byzantines... I din't even know why you would get such lies at school...

Are you trolling me or are you axtually taught that you were part of our Empire? If you are not trolling that's kinda sad...
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>>79975836
It's best that you stick to your darker side and improve it.
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>>79960187
What an idiotic map.
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>>79975745
Yeah like they were enperors of Tharace and Macedonia... it's just their holdings like that cunt Daenerys on Game if Thrones. It doesn't denote anything else let one a proof of dual empire. There us not even a single word about this in any textbook, history book or article.

This is horrendous... such blatant and obviousies to be taught to an entire country.... I din't even
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>>79975692

The Pope calls vlachs romans back then.

Pope Innocent III (in a letter dated 1203): “Therefore we, who have been appointed by the will of God and Father, unworthy as we are, as vicars and successors of the Apostolic Sea, to prove by the force of facts our fatherly love for the Church of the Bulgarians and Romanians(Vlachs), who are said to be the descendents of the ROMANS, by their flesh and blood”

>>79975932

a romanian diminutive of Ioan?Why not a bulgarian diminutive?
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>>79975881
Just go to Wikipedia there's no such thing as Romanians ruling alongside us. I hear about this first time in my life and I am a second year Bulgarian history student.

Just wow
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>>79976285

Romanians didnt rule.Bulgarians ruled.Romanians were part of it.And the first king of the Empire was a vlach.Plus the revolt was started by vlachs,. the revolt which formed the empire.You can ask your history teacher :)
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>>79976222
It's not romanian it's roman as in the western roman empire aka byzantine empire. Because Byzantine had strong cultural influence over it's neighbours, some thing stuck.
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>>79976450

Ioanitsa is the romanian diminutive of Ioan.Its also a common romanian name.But his name is not important.All the chronicles call him vlach.
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>>79975692
"We, knowing that your ancestors were originally from the nation of Rome, and that you are descendant of noble blood...."
Innocent III to Kaloyan!

Original:
Nobili viro Johannitio,

Respexit Dominus humilitatem tuam et devotionem quam erga Romanam Ecclesiam cognosceris hactenus habuisse, et te inter tumultus bellicos et guerrarum discrimina non solum potenter defendit, sed etiam mirabiliter et misericorditer dilatavit. Nos autem audito quod de nobili Urbis Romanae prosapia progenitores tui originem traxerint, et tu ab eis et sanguinis generositatem contraxeris, et sincerae devotionis aflfectum quem ad apostolicam sedem geris quasi haereditario jure, jampridem te proposuimus litteris et nunciis visitare.
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>>79960187
>>79964767
I stand proud with my Italian brothers from Rome, Naples and all the way to Southern Mainland Itlay, but Sicilians can go fuck themselves.

>>79961092
One day you no neck mongol types are saying you're mostly people from neolithic era that have been there for thousands of years, the next you're accepting of your mongol bulgar ancestry. Make up your minds. What in gods name is greco-slavic, sounds like an experiment gone wrong.

>>79962735
South slavs in Greece. Oh my sides.

>>79963546
You've been to Anatolia, western coastal part of Turkey? You realize a lot of those Turks there were Greeks who just converted to Islam especially in coastal western Aegean. When Greeks had a population exchange with Turkey, the whole western coast was Greeks sent to Greece, and Turkey took in a bunch of Balkan Turks, but a lot of Greeks stayed behind.

>>79970931
I would call them vlachs, not slavs, slight difference, call me crazy. I wouldn't say there's a drop of Greek blood in Romanians, some of your black sea coastal areas were majority Greek at certain points. I would think you assimilated those Greeks easily though in the last 100yrs. I was meeting people in Constanta who had some Greek ancestry, even the Fyromanians were telling me they're Greek to my shocking amusement.

>>79971324
What? Romanians have necks, majority of Bulgars and Skopjians have no necks, real short head on shoulders, you can easily tell them apart.
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>>79976389
Anon I know my history by heart...
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>>79975998
Yeah... Fuck man, do you know how difficult it is to find intelligent, good-looking and mentally stable Iranian girls in Sweden (or fucking anywhere, they're all insane) who even remotely share my values?
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>>79976669

Sure you do.

Joannitio, Blachorum Domini-Kaloyan of Bulgaria and the Blahs

As the Latin Emperor Baldwin I began to subdue rebel cities and besieged Adrianople, in the words of the Crusader chronicler Villehardouin "Johannizza, King of Wallachia, was coming to succour Adrianople with a very great host; for he brought with him Wallachians and Bulgarians, and full fourteen thousand Comans who had never been baptised" (Villehardouin, 92). On April 14, 1205, Kaloyan's Cumans managed to draw the pursuing heavy cavalry of the Latin Empire into an ambush in the marshes north of Adrianople, and Kaloyan inflicted a crushing defeat on the Crusader army.
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>>79976285
most countries have revisionist and nationalist history
your shithole's gotta have it too
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>>79976379

WE
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>>79976572
You understand that he wouldn't have been accepted as enperor if he were anyhing but Bulgarian in ancestry right?

It is well known and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that be and gis brothers were descended frok Aspraruh.

I can't even fathom what you have been fed as history.

A metter that can be read in several ways doesn't magically disprive millions of other sources.
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>>79976785
WUZ
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>>79960187
Southern Italians and Greeks are borderline members of a borderline (Mediterranean) sub-type of whites. That's all
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>>79976917

>enperor if he were anyhing but Bulgarian in ancestry right?

there was no such thing as ethnicity back then.It was all about social status.

>It is well known and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that be and gis brothers were descended frok Aspraruh.

Nothing is proven of any Aspraruh.

See >>79976766

>A metter that can be read in several ways doesn't magically disprive millions of other sources.

The only chronicles that reffer to his origin call him vlach.There exist no other chronicles that call him something else.
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>>79976621
>Italians
>Humans
No one cares if your from the North. Everyone below Bavaria is a shitskin and has been considered once since Ben Franklin wrote about how dirty they were.
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>>79976917
STOP TALKING TO THEM FOR FUCKS SAKE

Romanians are the worst "WE WUZ" on this board.

They are fucking Dacian, fucking Jesus was Dacian, they are the source of all haplogroups, the first people on the planet, they are fucking Romans as in the Roman Empire... and now they obviously know our own history better than us and they have somehow implanted Romanian Emperors to rule Bulgaria and that was absolutely accepted by the Bulgarian nobility.... (romanians didn;t even exist back then.

STOP REPLYING TO ROMANIAN WE WUZ POSTS, EVER.
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>>79960187

What is this retarded map?

It's missing a chunk of Russia, Azerbaijan and Armenia and has arbitrary parts of Asia and Africa
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>>79977220

Romanians didnt rule Bulgaria.Caloian was a bulgarian of vlach origin.Same as Johannis, a saxon, is president of Romania.
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>>79966475
Lega Nord is literal treason and cancer.
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>>79976379
No, he wasn't.

By the time the Carolingian dynasty rose to power, the Frankish culture was a melting pot of German, Gallic and Roman elements, and had virtually nothing to do with its origins.

Nobody knows for sure where Charlemagne was actually born, but it wasn't present-day Netherlands. At best it would've been southern Belgium.
By the 7th and 8th centuries, the Netherlands were a marginal area in the Frank kingdom.

Not to mention that by the time of Clovis, the Franks were already the most romanised people living on the Romans borders.
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>>79976777
>Empire of Bulgaria and Wallachia

So yhe Roman Empire must be called Empire of Rome and Gaul and Iberua and Britain...

Being part of an emlire doesn't entitle you to codomoniun of it.

There are no sources claiming Kaloyan was anything but Bulgarian. That letter basically says "oh ruler of this and this" it doesn't denote ethnicity.

I don't even know wbat to say about such delusion.
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>>79977575
STOP

..and it's co-dominium, learn2spell
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>>79977575

All the chronicles existent call him vlach :)

One is here Crusader chronicler Villehardouin >>79976766

When referring to Kaloyan's realm and subjects, contemporary Crusader sources (including the works of Geoffroy de Villehardouin, Henri de Valenciennes, Robert de Clari) other comtemporary sources (like that of William de Rubruquis and Roger Bacon's "Opus Maius"), as well as the letters of the Latin Emperor Henry of Flanders) represent Kaloyan as King of Wallachia, ruler of Wallachians and leader of Wallachian armies, and sometimes as ruler of Wallachians and Bulgarians. Such sources talk mostly of Wallachians and call Ioanitsa a Wallachian and "lord of Wallachians" (Blachorum domino).[3]
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>>79963546

>Greeks have nothing to do with anatolians

Top fucking kek.
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>>79976956
No, Near-Easterners are not white per se, but superior to white. The rest are simply desperate to associate themselves with our achievements because they were civilised by us and their history is otherwise rather poor outside recent developments.
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>>79977473
Carolingian Dynasty started in Belgium(Flanders) I admit. But Belgians are Dutchmen as much as I am
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>>79977733
>a foreign lord knows my ancestry neyter than myself despite that I have called myself Bulgarian in my own letters

t. Kaloyan
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Romanians throughly raped and washed out every local from bulgarian territory, you are now romanians :)

dubs give Bulgaria a new name
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>>79977962
БPAT HE BИЖДAШ ЛИ ЧE TE TPOЛBAT ЗДPABO?
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>>79977335
>Kaloian
>romanian

no, really. This needs to stop.
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>>79977962

yea he called himself bulgarian because there was no such thing as ethnicity back then.He was bulgarian but of vlach origin.Same as Johannis is a romanian of saxon origin.

>>79978035

All the chronicles existent call him romanian so he was romanian.

see >>79977733

:)
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>>79977962
get b8ed, newfriend
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>>79978125
Ok, you are trolling.
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>>79971964
>mountain Croat
what is this supposead to mean?
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>>79977575
>I have no arguments so instead I ridicule
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>>79978209

This is official history.

Get a look on objective written books or better yet contemporany writtings from his era, isntead of reading the chauvinists soviet era bulgarian manuals.
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>>79977996
but you were the ones who got raped and washed out by bulgars, cumans, pechenegs, slavs, avars and magyars
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>>79977943
People and cultures got mixed up so many times in Europe anyway that it doesn't make much sense trying to retroactively put labels on a thousand years old people or individual.
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>>79978282
Nope. Great b8s tho. I give you that.
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>>79978282
>This is official history.
In Romania.

Just like it's official history in FYROM how they're descendants of Alexander the Great and Cleopatra.
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>>79978254

slovenian

>>79978286

nah not really those were really small nomadic populations,esxcept slavs.West romanians indeed score around 0.3-0.5% east asian from cumans/pechenegs kek

>>79978360

I have posted official chronicles that you cannot refute.
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>>79978286
Don't even say that, how many years were you under direct Ottoman rule (pashalyc) ?
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>>79978406
They weren't small nomadic populations. They raped vlachs left and right, this is why Romanians are 99% genetically related to Bulgarians.

You are Bulgarians by blood.
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>>79960586
>>79960187

>Europedia source

Whoa, was almost worried there.
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>>79960586

even if syrians are not so bad genetically their ideology is cancer. Like if south korea was flooded with north korean communist, they are the same genetically but they will still ruin the country.
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Romanian trolls are the worst shiposters on this board.
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>>79978517
we were raped by turks and you by everyone else.
No really, stop with the b8ing.
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>>79978300
Western Europe was pretty Stable after Frankish expansion I think it is pretty fair to judge it.

But I must admit Frank are not pure Dutchmen. only the Southern Netherlands (under the Rhine) has Frankish roots
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>>79978517
Ottoman ruled had nothing to do with the mass settling of Cumans, Bulgars, Pechenegs, Avars and Magyars in the modern territory of Romania
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There is no such thing as Romanians, they didn't exist back then. The ones now are descended from pechenegs, kumans, bulgars, etc.
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>>79978517

500.Just 100 years ago they were 44% muslim kek

>>79978575

no, they were really small nomadic tribes.

>this is why Romanians are 99% genetically related to Bulgarians.

Not really, though we are so similar that in genetic tests bulgarians are not even mentioned.Because you are our son.

>>79978660

Bulgars didnt settle in Romania, they were a very very small nomadic tribe.
Cumans were also very small tribe, they were almost entirely killed by mongols.The leftover were settled in Hungary.Pechenegs were killed by cumans.Same for magyars.Not even hungarians are related with magyars.
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>>79978819

There is no such thing as basques, they didnt exist back then,
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>>79973304
>east germans have slavic blood
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>>79978947
Show me Romania on the middle ages map please
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>>79973572
>You left a bermet recipe and parts of your culture

Hon hon hon it's natural to share good wine between fellow europeans.

>>79973724

>Not just northern, they were in central and southern parts (Lika, >northern Dalmatia) albeit not that long.
>We have plenty of French loan words because of the fact.

You make me curious, now.
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>>79978827
Bulgars settled in Romania, kek. The first Bulgarian kingdom had more territory in Romania than in Bulgaria.

Romanians are unironically Bulgarians who speak a different (even though still slavicized/bulgarized) language.
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>>79979003

But thats irrelevant my romanian brother.A feudal state does not determine the existence of a population nor that before there didnt exist a state.
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>>79979003
Show me Italy or Germany in the middle ages!
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>WE WUZ DACIANS
>WE WUZ ROMANS
>WE WUZ BULGARIANS
>WE WUZ OLDEST PEOPLE ON THE PLANET

What else can the Romanians claim?
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>>79979095

>that tiny Romania in center of Bulgary

romanianised :)

anyway I'll go now flush my balls in a swarthy bulgarian girl for 2 packs of cigaretes and 5 euro
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>>79978947
nein mon frei
nein.

bukovina = your only master race connexion.
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>>79979246

Relativity theory, quantic theory, black holes etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hdY4rB5DBk
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>>79979246
And you are pure-blood bulgarian?

>WE WUZ DACIANS
>WE WUZ ROMANS

We really are. ;^)
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>>79979375

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la6O-JIbP3g
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>>79972346
Thats how people censor curse words here.
Its supposed to be degrading, but its actually very meh.
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>>79978952
It's actually true
Partly because https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_children_by_Nazi_Germany
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>>79979380

reminder Funar was 12 years mayor of Romania's 2nd biggest town
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>>79979383
as a romanian-american i can say its okay that we are not master race w/o hungary.

sub-human = norm in american
america = #1

and america /= (does not equal) master race

what say you?!
ce zici?
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>>79979304
just go for a romanian girl, bulgarianbro
they're the same as bulgarian ones but way cheaper
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>>79979452
...and partly because this
east germany is pretty much rightful slavic clay
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>>79971907
Western Roman Empire?
who said that you utter retard

>>79972207
Lmao, you do realize that you retards aren't even turkish anymore right? You have mixed heavily with persians, anatolians and greeks.
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>>79979095
I wonder why is this not taught in European Universities? Clearly bulgarians are smarter!
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sand niggers but north loth are Kebabes ..lol
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>>79979590
we are turko mongol sand niggers from middle east or native anatolians dependent on the balkan nationalists whim. Bulgarian ITT refuses to accept turks are just turkified anatolians-greeks , but you do etc.

but all in all it is not hard for a turk to look at a guy from turkmenistan, then look at a guy from greece, then look at himself and come to the conclusion
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>>79979825
The same reason it's taught in European Universities that Macedonians are a separate ethnicity - because you think you are different and would chimp out if someone said differently.
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>>79979095
>get rekd
The Orthodox Bulgarians settled all around the Principality of Wallachia; however, many of them gradually lost their Bulgarian identity and became Romanianized.[16]
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>>79980174
Clearly their women fell for our BRC( Brown Romanian Cock)
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>>79980174
t. bulgarian rapebaby
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>>79980338
>bulgarian rapebaby
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I'll leave this here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saints_Cyril_and_Methodius
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>>79964964
>heterogenic

heterogeneous

het·er·o·ge·ne·ous
ˌhedərəˈjēnēəs/
adjective
diverse in character or content.
"a large and heterogeneous collection"
synonyms: diverse, varied, varying, variegated, miscellaneous, assorted, mixed, sundry, disparate, multifarious, different, differing, motley;
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>>79980439
genetic research states that we are not turkish rapebabies and that you are bulgarian rapebabies
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>>79979916
>turks are just turkified anatolians-greeks
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>>79960187
Theres is something very wrong with this map
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>>79980338
i am master race daco-tracian-roman
if your mum sees me she wont know whether to adopt or fuck me
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>>79980527
it was popular in medieval romania to be part of greek pheneriotes or w/e

crazy that there once existed a high upper class in Romania that claimed Greek descent.

Ciausescu?

hmm...
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>>79980090
Again, you might not know what are you talking about, we are not Macedonians, now answer the fucking question!
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>>79980564
>we are not turkish rapebabies
9% of bulgarian population is literally turkish.And it would've been more if we and the russians wouldn't have eliberated you from the turks in 1878, you ungrateful shits.
>you are bulgarian rapebabies
this level of damage control....
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>>79980812
I already did, you are just bulgarians who started to differentiate from us after we got defeated by Ottomans and you became vassals
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>>79980771
I will gladly share denbts with everyone who claims to be Greek
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>>79981157
how is stating simple, well known facts "damage control"? you gypsies don't make much sense
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>>79960187
Slavo Germanic in western Norway? Please explain
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>>79972346

T*rkish ultranationalists used to censor the word K*rd because it can be used as an insult in T*rkey. So now it became a meme to write everything you see with disdain with an asterix.
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>>79981238
>>79981157

Just chill, shitskins. Romania is gypsy, and so is Bulgaria. Hungarians are mongols. Stay away from White europe.
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>>79981238
>simple, well known facts
Posts zero sources
>gypsies
Bulgaria, on top of it's 9% turkish population, also has an 5% gyppo population.
Thus remaining only a measly 5 ,5 million bulgarians in Bulgaria.
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>>79981183
Nice fucking story mate, not supported by linguists or any historians outside Bulgaria! I suppose the Ottomans taught us to speak Romanian! Hah!
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>>79981566
>shitskin
This, coming from Barbossa's cousin.
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>>79981566
Stfu Moorish Spain!
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>>79960187
>Tröndelag
>Slavo-Germanic
Wat?
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>>79963546
what bullshit is that

you even are not to be named "amateur historian", lad
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I'm Portuguese. My dad has blue eyes and my grandma has white hair and most of my family is from the north except for one grandfather. I have black hair and dark green eyes, though (and white features).

Am I white? are we celts? Is white even a proper anthropological term?
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>>79979825
Falling for the Western meme...
The Gypsy Latin Empire still sucking Europe's dick. Anything new under the sun?

Kindly reminding that Harvard linguists consider Macedonian a separate language.
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It seems like most countries bordering Romania have claims on Romania

Why not team up and gangbang them?
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>>79982245
Mediterranean
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>>79982311

Because we could mop the floor with them
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>>79982311
Which countries, Americuck?And what do they want?And is their claim legitimate?

>stay tuned for a great display of the american education
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>>79982351

Memeing besides, "white" isn't a proper scientific term. human races are diverse and complex and they're not like fantasy races such as "dwarf, elf, halfling" etc. Genetics are so complex that "white" and "black" really relate mostly to simply skin colour and nothing else, because human biology and genetics are far more complex. Are the Japanese white for having white skin, for example? Are Italians ooga booga?
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>>79972813
>We are roughly (depending on different studies) 50 to 60% slav, 40% to 50% Bulgar and 5 to 10% Thracian.

Delusional. Look at >>79973304

Bulgaria is predominantly J2 and I2. Pre-slavic, Pre-Bulgar.
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>>79982310
because they couldn't quite undersatnd how the brawny northern anglo was poor?

how they came to macedonia for money?

and how macedonia the holy roman empire gave them a job as cops... bodyguards.

hi harvard... your anglo master race descent is a very scary propoganda scheme.
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>>79982547

white and black isn't just skin color.Race isn't just skin color but an assamble of anthropological&genetical factors.
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>>79982634

I didn't say that, I said that creating this dichotomy of black and white is insultingly reductionist.
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>>79960187
>Greco-Slavic
>Not Thraco-Dacian/Daco-Illyrian

Retarded map
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>>79982311
its like saying that "it seems like the UK has claims on USA"...
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>>79960187
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>>79982634
>27 posts by this ID

And nobody has yet started to believe you

Life of a shitposter has to be hard
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>>79982245
I'm Portuguese.
>Am I white? are we celts?
yes, no according to /pol/

>dark green eyes (and white features)
white

>I have black hair
Non white according to /pol/
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>>79983281

Dirty polish untermenschen
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>>79983392
Did i trigger you or was it your nordic powerspike
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>>79982245
Mediterranean
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>>79960187
Woah how did the near eastern get farther west than anyone else?
Sounds like a good may may to me
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Some posts on this thread are ridiculous. White or not, southern italians are still europeans, and that's what matters.
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>>79979015
Read aftermath. It explains some stuff
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Trsat
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>>79960187
Pretty much this.

I don't know why you autists claim being white is so great when they are currently the laughing stock of the human race. It was great before the whole SJW progressive movement swept through NA and Western Europe, but now it's just fucking embarrassing. The browns and yellows are laughing at and cucking us.
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>>79981566
>a thousand years of north-african and arabic colonisation
>implying spagniards aren't a mudblood race
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>>79960187
>Frisians
Hahahahahahaahahahahahahaha
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The Slavs will rule Europe!
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>>79960187
Jajajajjajajaja
>andalusians.
>celtic
Bwahahahahahahhahahahahaha
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>>79961092

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