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Why is it that people who are uneducated and inexperienced tend to gravitate towards nationalism, while educated people who are well traveled are usually against it?
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>>79950398
define educated.
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>>79950656
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/educated
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>>79950398
>[Citation Needed]
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Multicultural globalism is a failed experiment. There is absolutely nothing wrong with putting the welfare and interests of one's own people, culture, and nation above others.

This isn't about educated vs uneducated, this is about snooty, elitist, left-wing academics deciding they know what's right for everyone and decreeing everyone who doesn't agree with them is an uneducated, backwards, yokel.


t. PhD candidate, plasma physics.
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>>79950398
>wealthy globalists don't see the advantage of national culture

You don't say! You mean they're against the one thing that stops them from having a dirty, little finger in every dirty, little pie?
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"Educated" people often live in segregated bubbles where they imagine hypothetical dream-worlds.

Poorer people have a tendency to experience the reality that the rich force on them.
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>I am against any nationalism, even in the guise of mere patriotism. Privileges based on position and property have always seemed to me unjust and pernicious, as did any exaggerated personality cult.

>t. Einstein

Did you guys forget he was a commie kike?
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I have a Masters degree in Quantitative Finance and I'm a nationalist
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>>79950398
>listening to Einstein thoughts on politics
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>>79950398
ironically Einstein was a Zionist
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>>79950879
Agreed.

t. Masters degree in engineering
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>>79950398
>It's not smart for a country to put itself first.

Yeah, tell me more about how you need to be told what to do in order to function correctly?
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>>79950398
Albert Einstein was a jew and at the time of that statement the Jews had no homeland. He was just jealous that he had no nation to feel pride about.

Guess who was offered the position of Israel? It was Einstein you dumb fuck. He turned down the job but once the state of Israel was created he was an Israeli nationalist of sorts and was friends with their founding leadership.
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>>79950398

Because the working class has street smarts, life experience, and common sense. Smart people are autistic and just let other people tell them what the acceptable opinion is.
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I guess people have to see it with their own eyes.

I guarantee you, diversity will lead to genocide and civil war in europe, they are going for the kill of europeans and western civilization.

It will be like the favelas in brazil, the lying unelected politicians will be behind 3 dussin private security agents behind huge walls, as europe turns into a 3rd world brutal country.
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>>79950398
Because "educated" people are wealthy and can isolate themselves from the negative effects of globalism and focus on virtue signaling in order to make themselves feel good.
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>>79950398
>jew talking about nationalism

parasite's opinion discarded
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>>79950398
Those 'educated' people tend to be just as stupid as nationalists, except rather than gravitate towards the leaders who claim to be working for the good of their country, they latch on to and listen to the liberal university teachers and their own friends-filled hug boxes to share equally stupid liberal propaganda while learning completely fucking useless degrees like 'media studies' and 'women's studies'.

They might be 'educated', but they're just as fucking stupid. Ignorance is not the same as intelligence and equally, knowledge is not the same as intelligence.
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If there was no nationalism, you wouldn't have other countries to travel to you dumb cunt.
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>>79951398
edit
*the position of Israels first prime minister*
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>>79950398
Because rich people live in gated communities

Poor people have to deal with their mistakes
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Why is it that people who are effeminate and weak tend to gravitate towards liberalism, while strong people who have worked real jobs are usually against it?
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>>79950398
People with good education usually have good jobs and too much to lose, so they keep a low profile and go with the political flow.

It's Western cultural opression thing, you can find plenty of educated people in say Israel, China or perhaps even Japan who are for nationalism. But here in West you get all the possible shit thrown at you for that kind of opinions, so people have learned to keep their heads down.
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>>79950398
Nationalism is just a form of collectivism, and nearly all of the most 'educated' people in the world are collectivists, they're just have a globalist, socialist outlook as opposed to a nationalist one.

Most would shy away from Nationalism as they've been conditioned to hate it from birth.

>le evil nazis
>stupid inbred flag-wavers

And thus you create a cycle.

Anecdotally however, I'm well educated and well travelled by traditional standards and would call myself a nationalist, the traveling only fueled my belief, it's lets me see how good cultures can be in isolation, mixing them fucks it up for everyone.
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>>79950398
(((Einstein)))
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>>79950398
It's just your emotional observation that's not based on actual reality.
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>>79950398
Define nationalism first.
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>>79951402
lol

>street smarts
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>>79950398

Education today is just something you buy. Not to say there aren't plenty of degrees that are legitimately difficult to get a PHD in. But if you are wealthy you can just buy a masters in """business""".

So basicly it is not surprising that people who only care about money don't like nationalism sense it puts the wellbeing of your home land before profit.
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>>79950398
>The guys bombing the shit out of bangladesh

Your argument is invalid
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>>79951334
Cool!

What discipline?

I'm working on my Bachelor's in ME right now.
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>>79951730
Also, educated people and scientists not so many decades ago were also for nationalism even in heart of Europe. Were they also bigoted idiots? Or maybe it's that they didn't have their culture indoctrinating them against it.
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>>79950398
Because the educated and travelled people visit tourist hotspots or meet with similarly educated and travelled exchange students or business partners around the world, and so have an extremely skewered image of what other peoples are like because they only interact with the cream of the crop.

Meanwhile uneducated plebs simply see what the world that they live in every day is changing for the worse, and as they can't afford to move to the “good neighbourhoods” if the diversity comes knocking at their door, they resist this change.
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>>79951111
>Privileges based on position and property
What exactly did he want it based on? Just look at "da projects" to get an idea of what happens when you have privileges divorced from property.
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>>79950398
>Why is it that people who are uneducated and inexperienced tend to gravitate towards nationalism

Why do the working class pursue their own national, cultural and racial interests?

Because they don't have money and can't pack up and move when shit goes south in terms of demographics. They rely less on material goods and more on community and shared history for comfort and survival - not money.

>while educated people who are well traveled are usually against it?

Why do liberally educated people with trust funds not give a flying fuck for the working class and betray their own nation at the drop of a hat?

Simple. Because they have money and no need for community because in the globalist capitalist world they can simply latch on to another community when shit goes south. Fuck those yokels in their trailers, I have apple products, jew and nigger clothes, and plane tickets to keep me occupied. eh fellow cuck.

tune related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LerqQ3PCX_g
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>>79950781

>Implying modern curriculum counts as an education.
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>>79952022
/thread
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>>79951313

I don't believe in good jews, but I see no point in lying about this either. He was not a zionist in any reasonable definition of the term.
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>>79951334
> Physics
> Engineering

According to the Humboldtian model of higher education you may or may not be highly educated.

You do not have to agree with it but "educated" has implications of quality, quantity and diversity.
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>>79950398

> Why is it that poorer people who are detrimentally affected by Globalisation are against it while richer people who can travel the world are for it?

Why is OP such a retard?
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>>79950398
... and to conclude - although some of the educated are against nationalism, but the truly wise know, that it is necessary and good...

((quote from other thread))
A good state is that one, where people understand each other (so they can unite) and understand their politicians (so they can judge and consider them) - hence we need nation-states.

How can I control and judge deeds and words of the politician, if I do not understand him? One than must bank on the bits and morsels, that journalists choose to translate and pick up... Then I will always vote better on the compatriot against the alien, and here the division is by the nation, which is the Language... Compatriot is someone, whom I understand, alien is someone, who I misapprehend.
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>>79950398

because they have a hard time thinking for themselves and have little or no personal achievements. they therefore feel the need to live vicariously through something larger than themselves since its better than facing the reality that they are unemployable retards.
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>>79950398
> uneducated and inexperienced
You mean children?
> Nope
They believe whatever you push on them. Thats why the left love politicizing them and always want to lower the voting age be fore they become too "educated" (critical of their education) and experienced.
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>>79952268

THIS
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Stupid bastards rob money, smart bastards steal your mind.
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>>79950398
Albert Einstein was a jewish autist.
His statements are overhyped and nothing special.
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>>79950398
The governing class of the western world, and the upper middle classes below them are warriors for an insane Kantian worldview that they are utterly resolved to impose on everyone else. They believe religious faith, cultural traditions, provincial and national loyalties and the very idea of ethnicity are idiotic concepts from a benighted past that must now be forgotten. The particular must, MUST, be annihilated; only the universal must remain, and this ‘universal’ is a unified anglophone global civilization of consumer capitalism, sexual libertinism and obliterated nature. Imagine the whole world united in a Manhattan ziggurat a la Ghostbusters. Imagine it as part hedge fund, part orgy, part Glee concert. Imagine peoples who resist being bombed and droned into submission with Kanye providing the mood music. Imagine Bill and Hillary as Zuul and the Marshallow Man. Imagine fighting these gnostic zealots with all the strength you’ve got because your back is to the wall and they’ll give you no quarter anyway.
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>>79952310

But how does this explain the droves of unemployable retards that are anti-nationalist or the millionaires and billionaires that support nationalist causes?
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>>79950398
Educated people are more brainwashed by the governement funded education system and live in nice houses in safe neighbourhoods
Uneducated people have to deal with immigrants fucking their shit up everyday
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>>79950398
((Einstein)) listen am I saying the guy was stupid, no he made great strides in the fields of physics. But to imply because of that we should all listen too what he has to say on a political philosophy is ridiculous. Think for yourselves don't give in to what other, supposedly smarter people, tell you to think.
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Why does anyone put any stock in the opinion of an idiot savant? Like Isaac Newton, he was good with numbers and physics, but the guy was a fucking robot.
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>>79950398
Because the "educated" are brainwashed.

Here is Malema, leader of a radical commie party in SA, basically Mugabe 2.0, being cheered by the indoctrinated masses at Oxford: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZkUeZI8VtY

Here he is again singing about killing the boer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm9nUhTFYfM

>“We are at war with whites who took our land and we now want it back. We want our land and we want our wealth; if you stand in our way we will crush you,” Malema said to cheers and applause.

http://www.enca.com/south-africa/zuma-will-be-forgiven-over-nkandla-if-he-acts-on-land-issue-malema

It is not out of the realm of possibility that he could take power like Hitler, form a coalition with ANC, who he saps votes from, once they fall below the majority and fuck our shit up. The West would again watch on and perhaps even support our destruction, just so long as evil whites never win.

Zimbabwe II: Electric Boogaloo is coming, and we are powerless to stop it.
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>>79952089
Do tell me what modern curriculua is missing. Every says that LE CURRENT GENERATION IS FUCKEN DUMB AS ROCKS. Why? What are they missing? Are they not well versed in physics, medicine, chemistry, and biology? Are they missing a crucial portion of welding? Or are you simply mad that they can just google whatever information instead of trudging down to the library?
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>>79950398
Why is it that people who think their smart, really aren't.
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>>79950398
>Educated
>>Left-wing brainwashing
>>Unable to form their own opinions
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>>79950398
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>>79950656
>>79951026
>>79951402
>>79952523
>>79952612
>Searching for excuses for having an IQ below 80
>Trying to look on the bright side because being born a shit for brains sucks
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>>79952519

fringe lunatics in general are worthless faggots and shouldn't warrant your attention. this goes for both tumblrinas and the flip side of that coin (e.g. /pol/)
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>>79952719
They're well versed in liberalism. Even my math textbook reeks of fucking SJW bullshit.

My bio12 class mentions climate change every fucking paragraph. College is a fucking joke, and is most definitely indoctrination.
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>>79952800

This.

>Undergraduate and Graduate degrees in the 21st century being a measure of education and intelligence

Top kek

I have my undergraduate and graduate degree and I am not proud of them at all. They dumbed down education so much that a nigger could have earned what I earned.

My only proud achievements were the ability to gain employment, excel at said employment, and earn my promotions.
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>>79953375

reality != /pol/ memes

>>>/x/
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>>79950398

Because liberal Jew professors are the ones brainwashing the "educated" to the left. This much is obvious and has been going on since the 1960s in America.

Also Nationalist views are persecuted by these same people, so its a totally unbalanced education in politics and sociology.

Your statement is really uneducated.
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>>79952264

The tiny elite which get proper education are irrelevant.

The vast majority of people who supposedly get a classical education are drowned in philosophical DEEP shit which confuses semantic diversion for insight and kike propaganda which poses as history.
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>>79950398
Albert Ein(((((((((((((((((((((((((((STEIN)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>79953626

i wish i was as redpilled as you guys XD
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because cuckers gonna cuck
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>>79953375
Dumb nigger, global warming has nothing to do with SJW. Don't use the damn term if you don't know what it means.
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>>79950398
>well traveled

your opinion is automatically garbage
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>>79950398
>educated people
educated neither means intelligent (as can be seen in the hordes of brain dead millennials with some master in Indian basket weaving) nor does it mean wise. higher education for everyone only fosters arrogance and elitism. it turns people really into political statists. I mean 30 years old with the same views as they had with 18?
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>>79950398
Because being educated in the current world and being young to middle aged, means that you were subjected to an education curriculum that consisted of multicultural ideals. Since people who pay into getting their education at the college level invest so heavily money-wise into it, they psychologically develop a crutch upon it. That crutch being that because they have spent so much money on this thing, everything in it has to be true, otherwise it cheapens the investment for them. People who have a great deal of undeserved pride are the most affected by this. They will do whatever it takes to keep this "reality" intact in their head. Undeserved pride among the young to the middle aged only seems to grow among the masses, every year.

Educated, yes. Well traveled, no. Unless you mean, "only saw the nice areas during a week long vacation, well traveled," which isn't well traveled at all.

The "educated" are also subject to dealing with loud feminists and others sjws that preach quite loudly, idealistic rubbish, and because of the setting, which is usually also ideal in that it's far enough away from the "urban" ghetto side of town, they have "ruby tinted glasses" on where they aren't seeing reality the same way others are. Especially today, the mob mentality demands conformity of everyone and because of BLM, people either snap out of it and see it for what it really is or they just double down on the denial to keep their false reality intact.
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>>79953732

Hang around Schlomo, in the end not even your kike genes will help you ... you will be.
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>>79953091
Fuck off you literal retard
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>>79950398
People who are "educated and well traveled" are usually very wealthy, and thus don't have to deal with all the negative effects of diversity.

By the way, I can guarantee that if Einstein were alive today, he wouldn't care much for muslims.
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>>79953267
but liberal insanity is not fringe anymore. you must be blind or just a self-absorbed centrist fence-sitter to say otherwise.
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>>79950656
This. I am studying at university and I am a proud ethnic nationalist. "Education" usually means brainwashing nowadays.
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>>79951402
I typically agree with this. The issue with what you're saying though is that street smarts is usually called common sense and I'd argue that most of the working class lacks that.

Id say that your trade workers, blue collar workers typically have common sense. Anyone who isn't a drunk that is.

Fully agree that people who wear suits are austisic as fuck, totally out of touch with the current real world issues.
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>>79953091
Nobody is excusing retards. They usually vote for the politicians that give them free gibs.
The problem is the people who are supposed to be educated, but are completely disconnected to the world outside their bubbles and can't form their own opinions.

An abo with 62 iq knows more than stephen hawking when it comes to surviving in the forests and hunting kangoroos
A retard with no education knows more about shitty immigrants stealing you blind on the street than some cunt with colege degree who never got robbed because he only travels by car
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>>79954453

i actually just regularly leave my house, have a job, and am generally not so completely disconnected from reality that i believe reality is actually like the panicked caricature that you read on this cesspool.

protip: get of your house and get a job faggot. SJW faggotry is almost exclusively confined to a select few college campuses and the internet. just like your faggot alt-right movement or whatever you want to call it.
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>>79950398
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>>79950398
I'm currently studying Engineering and come from one of the richest and most educated counties in the United States and I'm a Nationalist.
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>>79954684
so your argument is correct because you have a job and you just assume everyone who doesnt share your views is a fat neet?
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>>79951334

I'm well traveled as anyone else. My job literally takes me all over the world to study and research. And you know what? Every country is nice in it's own way. I love going there and getting tours from locals who love their country.

Ps.
>MFW Everyone has important jobs.
>I watch birds

t. Ornithologist
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>>79953267
I don't think anyone on the alt-right actually advocates not getting a job or contributing to society.
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>>79950398
Educated people can think in term of deeper/complex principles because of abstraction and theoretical frame, but actually lack experience of reality to guide their pursue of greater innovative goals.
Non educated people think in term of actual reality with simpler principle, and lack abilities to see through their simple experience to set and achieve bigger innovative goal.

In general, all these people have a confirmation bias and the will to feel right, so they always will choose or even distort their perception of reality to match their beliefs.
People that reject the confirmation bias, prone to accept the refutation of an in-progress idea, often end not being able to clearly formulate any idea because there will always chase the more complex and complete version of it. There is always a leap of faith to do, even in science, to start expressing something.

tldr: smart people are able to understand a shallow version of the reality they experience, dumb people are not able to understand the more real version of reality they experience
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>>79950398
Isn't measles the measles of mankind?
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>>79955169
>Educated people can think in term of deeper/complex principles because of abstraction and theoretical frame
if you are talking of stem, maybe. everything else: maximum keck
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>>79954650
Nice ID. The 62 IQ knows how to survive in the forest by eating mushrooms and drinking piss. The intelligent and educated person knows which berries are poisonous, what to use as medicine etc.

The retard with no education knows about the shitty immigrants but is too dumb to research which neighborhoods are too dangerous to walk alone at night.
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>>79950398
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/cultured-hicks/

>At the present juncture, the only force strong enough to resist this shock doctrine globalism-at-gunpoint crisis methodology is economic nationalism. Sure, nationalism is a drag, outmoded, and overly narrow in perspective. Many historical complaints can be legitimately set against it. In the long run, it is not the way to go for the planet or its inhabitants. But right now it is the only force strong enough to stand up to neo-liberal globalism. At the moment, as that wicked witch Maggie famously said, "There is no alternative." A movement of a few naive students have not been able to stand up to globalism, and neither have 1 million people occupying a nation's central square. Effective resistance to this global process -- an intentional run-down to the lowest common denominator of wealth, health, security, etc., and a run-up to the highest common denominator of pollution and ecological destruction, all in favor of corporate rights owned by a few people and enforced at the end of a gun -- without an effective global strategy and sustained global support, is merely wishful thinking, i.e., hope. Yet, we are are nowhere near that point of resistance yet, and with the aid of these moribund intellectuals, fecklessly yet sanctimoniously targeting one "monster" at a time, we may never get there. In my humble opinion, economic nationalism must be seen as a stepping stone away from centralized unaccountable globalism towards a more decentralized, economically just world. If I should be mistaken, I welcome any viable alternative strategies. Perhaps the feckless left will invite me to sign their petition!

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2013/05/syria-the-feckless-left-.html


The wealthy are part of the globalist tribe and it works for them. Even if they destroy a country with immigration, they can just move.
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>>79955464
by the quality of your post I guess you belong into the piss-drinker group?
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>>79950398
But Einstein was a Zionist who supported the formation of Israel.
He was also a self-proclaimed leftist- up until 1933 when he wrote Roosevelt encouraging him to research and build and atomic bomb to use on the Germans.
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>>79950398
Nationalism may be the measles, but globalism is the cancer.
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>>79950398
>albert (((einstein)))
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>>79950398
>founding fathers
>lincoln
>mlk
>reagan
>trump
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>>79955672
Fuck
*self proclaimed pacifist
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>>79955627
Wow, you shut me down with that 62 IQ of yours. Can't even structure a defense for your own stupidity, huh?
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>>79954684

Protip for Europeans :

Don't go deep in debt on a house, have liquid assets cause there are good odds white flight will gut wherever you life.

Immigration faggotry can arise everywhere in western Europe and it only takes a couple % to crash the value of your home.
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>>79950398
EZ shit OP: liberalism vs collectivism

Academics has you solely think about yourself and your specialization; entry-level jobs have you thinking about the working class, your place in it and how to prevent yourself from getting fucked.

There's also a ton of media that romanticize heroes and those that study tend to absorb more media.
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>>79955464
I have a college degree, I have a well paying job and I know english so I consider myself educated. But I don't know "which mushrooms are poisonous". I could learn it in 10 minutes if I wanted to, but there is no point since I don't plan to spend time in australian forests any time soon.

Likewise, "educated" people have the hability to learn why globalism is bullshit, how equality is a lie and how multiculturalism destroys nations. But they choose not to. Uneducated people have no choice. They already live it everyday and they cannot avoid dangerous neighbourhoods because they live there.
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>>79950398
Because nationalism involves a fundamental degree of arbitrariness that doesn't sit well with those used to logical thinking.

Furthermore, people who are well educated in one field are often rather uneducated in another.

This makes skimming arguments about how nations are arbitrary constructs very appealing to these people, because there is a grain of truth in there and it feels intuitive.

I say this as a nationalist, who accepts that to some degree the current location of my nation's borders are arbitrary (for reference, obviously I'm not talking about Great Britain in itself - an island provides a great natural border, but Great Britain is not a nation.) but ultimately that writing that off in favour of getting the broad generality right is more important.

Educated people are often bad at "Yes, it's arbitrary to do X, but there isn't a better option that we can viably implement" situations.


Whereas the uneducated take a much less complicated route to nationalism based on feeling an ad-hoc logical justification.

Ultimately, even though they are less-educated they bumble their way to a correct-ish answer.


To those on the left who oppose nationalism, raise the case of post imperial states - should they have stayed in empire because otherwise they were nasty nationalists? Should states have stayed shackled to Russia against their will? Should the USA have remained under British rule? Ireland?

It's easy to be against nationalism when your nation is the one holding down others.
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>>79950398
I'm a double major in neuroscience and economics, I'm also a millionaire at 22.

I'm a staunch nationalist, and hold many nazi values. If you think nationalist ideologies are only for plebeians you're willfully underestimating the forces cooking under the jew to destroy their hegemony among the white elite.
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>>79956032
poor goys like you dont even see why you are retarded
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>>79955348
You're judging the purpose of the other fields. But bullshit can be unnecessarily complex. Like Philosophy can be deep and complex, as much as it can be totally useless.
That was the idea after what you quoted: they can have hard time to judge what is actually interesting to discuss once they start thinking inside an abstract setting.
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>>79956922
>goys
>retarded

You see that? That's whites contributing to science. How many jews invented something useful over the centuries? A couple dozen?
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>>79952719
It is missing agency, the hallmark of mental health in the west. Millennials do not understand this concept.
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>>79950398
>nationalism is bad except when jews want it
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>>79950879

Shit another plasma physics phd on pol, didn't think I'd meet one

If you're still here what's your specialty?
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>>79950398
I have traveled all over europe and the Americas and I still firmly believe the United States is the best damn country in the world.
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>>79950398
In fact nationalism is growing among young, educated Europeans who, thanks to the internet probably, have seen exactly how they are being manipulated.
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>>79954732
>Left
things that never happened: the image
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>>79950398
>all people who are well traveled are educated
yeah, especially those refugees amirite?
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>>79950398
Nationalism is just an extention of tribalism, which is what kept our species alive for thousands of years.
One of mankind's biggest mistakes is, in self-awareness, trying to abandon our own nature because of what we perceive to be a greater good.
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>>79951368
Pretty much this.
If you don't put yourself first, natural selection will come to get you.
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>educated people
You mean kids indoctrinated for years on socialism in schools and college?
>>79959453
This.
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>>79955814
Haha. This.
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>>79950398
I think I'm slightly Nationalistic because I'am so well travelled. Being exposed to other cultures has made me appreciate my own, not because I believe my culture to be superior in anyway, but because I realise it is part of my identity.
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>>79950879


This.

Masters in Finance
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>Albert (((Einstein)))
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You could generalize and say that "Educated" persons are exposed to a selective subset of information and complimentary line of thinking supported by educational institutions. Educational institutions are in turn tied to (by finance and social class) the established institutions of government and society. So the majority of "educated" persons agreement with globalist ideas is not surprising. Very few people want to go against the grain - and this is doubly so with the stigma (reinforced by media and the establishment) associated with criticism of the social and global ideals.

So yes, "educated" people on the majority function within the framework of ideas laid out and promoted before them, else they face being ostracized by their social and academic peers.

"Uneducated" people function within the ideas they have developed through the experience of their lives, and as you move farther down the social class ladder the truth and reality of life and survival becomes more and more apparent.

This is why social welfare programs create liberals - its a buffer for them against the hard reality of the actual economic and social climate. Go with the flow, nod your head, and there will always be a check in the mail. Smoke your medical weed and don't think about it to hard... big brother will take care of you as long as you keep voting him back into power. Of course, until you aren't needed anymore or something more important comes along...
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>>79950398
>cand.scient IT
>Traveled the most of the world
>flaming nationalist

kill yourself burger.
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>>79950398

It's because institutions of higher learning are conditioned to endoctrinate students into a socialist and globalist thought process and to shun nationalism. Most college professors are left leaning... And since they are your standard bearers for "the educated", you get a higher percentage of "educated" people that side with globalist and socialist/Marxist views.

The "uneducated" are still "dumb", but the nationalist ideals are not brought about by their "dumbness"... Nationalism is basically the larger representation of the "family unit" which has been a staple of humanity since pre-historical times. These "dummies" just happen to have avoided the corruption that the beuraeucratic educational institutions are producing .

Most universities are FOR PROFIT organizations that have zero loyalty to nations... Only to PROFIT. only to share holders. Share holders profit when their organizations can operate ABOVE THE LAW... And the only way to do that is to subvert the rule of law (laws that can only be enforced with strong nationalistic governments that are loyal to their clay, their natural resources and their human resources..)
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>>79950398
lemme guess, according to you:
((((university))) graduates = the educated
regular people faced with real life problem = the uneducated

>m-muh safe space
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>>79950398
>inexperienced
Says the sheltered privileged role playing faggot
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>>79960349
>not because I believe my culture to be superior in anyway

shallow your pill please because English culture is vastly superior to most of the worlds cultures.
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>>79950398
The out of touch, overtly leftist liberals have began to dismantle the english language for their own cause.

Education?

Having an education is meaningless nowadays. Entry requirements are so low that almost everybody gets the chance to go to university these days, courses are easier than they were 60 years ago and almost everybody passes, and universities have become left wing, cultural marxist indoctrination camps - so it is in the interest that everyone goes there to become indoctrinated.

It's no wonder the government offers free grants and loans to school leavers (and then fucks them over by adding interest they said they wouldn't add).

It is not the uneducated and inexperienced who gravitate towards nationalism. It is the educated, inexperienced and out of touch who gravitate towards globalism, as they never actually feel or see the massive damage it causes to working class communities.

I am educated, and I am leaning towards nationalism as I have witness first hand, and spoke to many people from many EU countries about how it has destroyed their nation, their economy.

It has nothing to do with being well traveled or not.
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>>79950879
this
NEET
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>>79950398
>mom has a MBA
>traveled to every continent and over 75 countries and every American state
>hates coons with a passion and is overtly proud of being japanese

>dad is master mechanic with over 45 years of working on cars
>born and raised in one of the worst neiborhood in Detroit
>traveled to 50 countries with mom and to every state
>the embodiment of moonman and nationalist as fuck

Go fucking figure. I've only been to 28 countries and 40 states. I am proud to be a burger granted I'm a glorious tradesman.

So hey ain't all that.
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>>79951250
>this guy disagrees with me
>my go-to rebuttal is to attack the person
>oh it's fucking Einstein
>g-guys Einstein is stupid don't listen to him
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"Well traveled"

A rich snob's way of telling you they think they are smarter than you simply because they had the money to travel.

I have a BS. have studied culture at a university. I have self-studied history. I presented a lot historical facts to a "well-traveled" liberal I know with a master's degree. I shocked her and I think she realized she really didn't know as much as she thought she did. I have learned indisputable history that most don't know. And I am 100% sure that nationalism is the only way to help your descendant's future.
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In times of abundance, nationalism is idiotic. We have not reached post-scarcity, and thus nationalism is necessary. Anyone who hasn't realized this is infantile in their delusions.
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>why is it that people who've been through more university indocrination tend to be anti-nationalist?
Because universities are very efficient at indoctrinating naive kids in their early 20s, and the national media is very efficient and reinforcing their indoctrination.
>why is it that people who have only been tourists in first world nations have an inflated self-image as "worldly" or "cultured", yet avoid real culture shock and never live or work in the 3rd world for extended periods of time
Because it's easy to think of yourself as more competant when you set easy challenges for yourself, especially if you're vapid and uncritical from attending university without being a critical thinker. Did that provide any useful insights, OP?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0C4_88ub_M
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>>79952499
Underrated
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>>79950398
Uneducated doesn't mean unintelligent.

And traveling does not equal worldly. In fact quite the contrary in most cases.

You live life, you don't just let other people live it and tell you about it. And living somewhere different for even a few years will make you more "traveled" than someone who vacations and learns nothing.
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>>79950398
Why am i richer than most educated people? never mind i know it is because you are stupid.
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>>79952499
Where does Kant say that the particular must be annihilated? I thought that was Hegel, though it wouldn't surprise me if Hegel got it from someone else.
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>>79963659
Einsteins argument is "nationalism is dumb guize", and OP's is "ur dumb guize".
So if you're going to whine about ad hominem, whine to OP first.
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>>79958475
Laboratory and dusty plasmas. You?
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>>79950879
This.
C-can I "t." if I'm chem undergrad?
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>>79963772
...and they probably sat by the pool of their hotel for the entire time drinking all-inclusive cocktails.
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>>79950398
I'm educated and hold a history degree as well as membership in Phi Alpha Theta.

Proud white nationalist, we've learned nothing from history. (don't fix what isn't broke)
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>>79950398
Beacuse there are people who use nationalism to fill the hole in their soul that the lack of acomplishment in their life. But there are people who are just proud of being a fellow countrimens and ancestor acomplishments, it gives a sense of proudness that can motiveate them ,and a sense of unity that makes them caring for their fellow countrimen.
Educated people are often see this unique and mostly cultures bright sides around their short travel and they think "I want that in home". Just that it failed to understand that what keep this unique culture together is a sense of unity and sameness ergo nationalism.

Oh and fuck you for shitting on /pol/ with this kind of threads ,whit hidden shaming tactics.
Now that I pointed out that you are just here to shitpost you probably going to damege controll it in some way. I want to see the result.
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Anyone know why fringe levels of IQ (like 140+) tend to have very extremist political views? My economics professor got drunk with us one night and described to me his traditionalist ultra capitalistic utopia combined with a government funded acidic rain to scourge the poor from their slums and I was shocked.
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>>79950781
>last post by this ID
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>>79950879
Agreed. MBA from Cambridge. Its basic logic and economics really.
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>>79950398
GOOD GOY
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>>79965229
Maybie he has some burried fustration beacuse he probably surrended by idiots or idiots have over controll them.
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>>79965229
>Anyone know why fringe levels of IQ (like 140+) tend to have very extremist political views
Because when you're intelligent you think outside the box, and have ideologies not based on what authority or peers tell you.
Although that society sounds pretty retarded. Economics majors seem to have a higher sociopath rate than other specializations.
Always with the social darwinism.
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>>79965229
Because they understand that liberalism doesn't help anybody?

What is the point in giving retards benefits so they can have a house and reproduce? Why let people give birth to disabled kids, so they can suffer a horrible life at the expense of the state?

It doesn't help the retard, it doesn't help the children of retards, it doesn't help the liberals who feel good about it, and it doesn't help society or the human race as a whole.
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>>79965229
People with high IQs are able to see the logical conclusions of their premises to the end.

>>79950879
Agreed.

t. MIT pleb student
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>>79950398
>the people
Because people, generally, are uneducated and inexperienced. So while you have those inexperienced and uneducated supporting nationalism, you also have the people, once again, uneducated and inexperienced, supporting globalist bullshit.
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I am nationalist, and I'm a fucking Electrical Engineer.

I cannot be nationalist publicly, because I live in California and I'd be murdered if anyone thought I loved my country.
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>>79950398
>einSTEIN
Pure coincidence...
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>>79953916
Oh yes it does. Just another way to shame developed countries into lowering themselves while poor shitholes take advantage of them. Exactly like affirmative action.
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>>79950398
Why do retards make bait like the op and others forget to sage?
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>>79965703
a jew who had to flea germany seemingly has a bias towards the particular government of the time?????

wtf I hate oppenheimer now
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>>79954684
>The social circles I run through are representative of an entire nation
>Le leave the basement nerd maymay meme
Sorry kid but there's absolutely a huge bias towards these disconnected left ideas. The sheer fact that it's being taught in schools how whites are the root of all evil because they've had the power for the longest is certainly not a fringe idea.
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>>79950398
Because they're so educated in artificial constructs that they've overlooked vital details and information such as the reason the comfortable first world they live in exists. These are the same people who don't know how to grow their own food or make their own clothes or shelter. They don't need to have these skills because long ago many people banded together and made a nation. Nationalism's function is to bring people in that nation together. They were born into this and don't understand where it came from or its significance.

Educated in what?
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>>79950398
>t. jewish plagiarist
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>>79953375
It's true, my Math 120 book has at least 2 questions in every section about Obama or the Democrat Party
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>>79950879
Agreed

t. Billionaire and candidate for President
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>>79950398
Poorly-educated foreign niggers are against nationalism too, because it allows them to prey on white egalitarianism and get free gibs for being brown and existing.
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>>79950398
>Why is it that people who are uneducated and inexperienced tend to gravitate towards nationalism, while educated people who are well traveled are usually against it?
They don't understand the benefits of a unified society. They don't know anything but the past
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>>79950879
Agreed
T. Never went to college but still got a nursing license and live comfortably
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I can tell you why nation destroying liberals such as yourself think that: Dunning-Kruger
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>>79950879
This

t. PhD in Math, any job I want, 300k starting
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>>79950398
Because Leftists usurped administrative power in most American universities around the 1960s.

Globalism wasn't nearly as popular in academic circles before then.
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>>79968769
>benefits of a unified society

Inefficient oligarchy?

The UK paid more money to the EU than it received, so that Merkel could have more resources and power to flood the place with ISIS rapists.

Tell me what's beneficial about it. Anybody with common sense can see it's better to keep the wealth reserved to your own people if you're in a white nation. There are only so many resources to go around. The 4 billion or so 3rd-worlders that live on less money than the average Westerner; if subjected to total egalitarianism, would greatly reduce the resources available to the rest of the world.

You leftists need to be give your own new continent to turn into a cosmopolitan, amorphous hellhole with mass immigration; and leave the rest of the world's sovereign nations alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
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>>79950398
Nationalism, like anything else, has good and bad elements. The more extreme versions of nationalism can be dangerous, but there isn't anything wrong with having some nationalist ideals. Like Patriotism can be a good thing, but it can also blind you to a lot of stuff if you're not careful. But it doesn't mean you're better off without any patriotism. In fact, some patriotism is certainly better than none.
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>>79950398
Academics sit in their offices all day and don't interact with society in a wide manner. Their knowledge is highly specialized towards their field and as a rule, if any academic is talking about something outside their field of study then they are 100% clueless and you should pretty much ignore whatever they say.
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>>79951409
>Sweden
>underrated post
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>>79951175
What do they teach you about quantitative finance?
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>>79950398
Trump is Ivy educated and is Nationalistic. Ghetto niggers are against it and drop out of school

>>79953091
People against nationalism are so fucking stupid.

>>79953267
Screw off lunatic freak.
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>>79950398
Ok let me get this straight. The main opponents to nationalism are....
>Niggers
>Spics
>Other minorities
Literally the lowest IQ demographics of western society are opponents of nationalism.
There you go, I just debunked your entire post. Now go kill yourself faggot OP.
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>>79952022
this. college kids interact with foreign exchange students and non-college kids get their neighborhood "enriched".
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>>79950398
>t. the AIDS of mankind: the jew
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>>79950398

Your Commie ivory tower professor would give you an A for that.

The rest of the West wants to hang the both of you for betraying your people for foreigners.
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>>79951677
Leftism is a symptom of a lack of self-worth. There was a chart the other day showing rates of mental illnesses between left leaning and right leaning individuals.

Leftists scored higher on nearly every mental illness except one. Narcissim. No Leftists in the study showed signs of Narcissistic personality. Probably why leftist political leaders are all corrupt lying shitbags like the Clintons. They don't actually believe anything they say and are simply using leftist rhetoric for political gain.
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>>79950398
knowdledgeable =/= educated
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why is it that delusional fuckwits continue to think that everyone can live together without problems

Hey you stupid retarded piece of fuck

this isn't some fucking fairytale where everyone is SANE

this is a fucking nightmare where STUPID CRAZY FUCKS always turn everything to shit

YOU
(YOU)
are clearly the uneducated and inexperienced one here

(YOU)
are clearly a naive pampered idiot who goes around TOTALLY FUCKING CLUELESS about the reality of how people are on this planet.

GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH A CACTUS
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>>79950879
dis nigga right here

t. wurldstar
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>>79950398
> 20 year old libtard
> never left laguna beach except to visit other beaches in Caribbeans
> well traveled
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>>79951111
(((Einstein)))
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>>79950398
Nationalism is the only reason why I am even here. I don't get how people can dismiss the concept of nationalism on the base of today's beliefs. 100 years from now people may think the same thing about liberalism.
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>>79969878
Nationalism is pretty arbitrary but it's way better than fucking globalism.

In reality, the ideal would be to not have any special allegiance to people outside your community that you don't know and will never meet. Do what's best for those around you and your community.
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>educated i.e. repeat what we told you
If you go to college for something not definite and objective like a hard science or math you're educated but still a retard.
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>>79970532
Are you talking about neoliberalism?
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>>79970752
Yeah, pick your poison
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>>79951111

Checked
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>>79970613
>definite and objective like a hard science or math
surely that's repeating what you've been told, whereas other degrees may let you form your own conclusions
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>>79950879
I don't care about your shit, I just want welfare, hoes and video games.

t. NEET
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>>79971341
kys
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>>79951026
>"Educated" people often live in segregated bubbles where they imagine hypothetical dream-worlds.

This, actually. Power lets you pretend the world is something other than what it is.
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>>79953732
I bet this nigger slays pussy
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>>79950398
wtf i hate nationalism now
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>>79970613
You're a literal retard. Only autists do that

>>79970810
sure
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>>79971591
sure
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>>79971341
Well you are in France so you can work like <40 hours a week
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>>79950398
Gee, I wonder why a Jew, who belongs to a people who haven't had their own state in thousands of years, would be against nationalism. It certainly can't be in the name of self-interest.
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>>79953375

You realize what a 5C change in average surface temperatures means don't you? Summers will be lethally hot in a lot more places. Also ocean warming is having a massive impact on biodiversity and fishery sustainability, which already looks dismal from overfishing.

Fuck outta here with your "climate change is a liberal political lie" bullshit.
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>>79970216
I'd argue that the left is a direct result of narcissism, i.e. they compensate for their vast inferiority by clinging to any opinion that is in vogue and progressive. That's why they react so emotionally and panic when they are questioned because their ideology is directly tied to their broken self-esteem. That's why right-wing commentators are so stoic in discussion; because they know they are right and don't give a fuck if you don't agree.

Narcissism is just an expression of low self-esteem and a need for acceptancet. If you know you are the shit and can back it up, you're not going to go out of your way to prove it to anyone. You're just going to go out and do whatever the fuck you want to do.
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>>79971963
sure totally not because of your wifes son.
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>>79952719
https://youtu.be/WHyvRHrYYBA
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>>79950398
how many dicks your mum sucks a day ?
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>>79950398
>Why is it that people who are uneducated and inexperienced tend to gravitate towards nationalism, while educated people who are well traveled are usually against it?

Why is it that uneducated people believe this?
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The funny thing about "educated" is the education these people have are by the institutions they created, with the curriculum, they created, presented by them to indoctrinate young minds into their way of thinking. Followed by an endless stream of PR how only the educated can be right. Now on the opposite side, let us look at some of those who do not have a formal education and what they managed to accomplish without being "educated". Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Henry Ford, Mary Kay Ash, Halley Barry, Michael Dell, Andrew Jackson, and on and on and on.

If you can sit there an honestly tell me that a college degree is the only way for one to be educated, you may be the dumbest "educated" person on the planet
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>>79950398
Educated people tend to be wealthier, and thus can live in areas that are unaffected by immigration and multiculturalism, and so they're more guided by idealism than reality.
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>>79950398
great argument

Guess i'm a #HillShill now
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>>79954732
>Why do I feel like I don't belong anywhere?
;_;
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>>79950398
Because Nationalism is the idelogy most favoreable to them (at least in the short-to mid-term). It`s called voting for your own interest.

In the higher education, you have the same with globalism, while things like ideology also start playing a more important role.
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countries are just another religion.
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