Daily reminder that The United States of America is the most glorious, the most powerful nation on Earth and could wipe out the entire joint forces of the rest of the world, if she truly wanted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OumtJZx7cEw
American Carrier """""""""""""""""landings"""""""""""""""""
Anyway agreed my man.
>>79820970
Is that Bremerton?
>>79820970
uh, nukes. level the playing field.
Seriously
The only thing that matters are the nukes that are swimming around the ocean floor
That's a big harbor
>>79820970
>could wipe out the entire joint forces of the rest of the world
uh no?
>>79820970
>billions of dollars worth of hardware
>1 tactical nuclear warhead would waste it all
God Bless America
We live in a world of mutually assured destruction dumbass. If the yanks ever go too crazy pulling shit, Russians/Chinese wouldnt think twice about firing multiple nukes at every major western city in the world. Some would possibly be intercepted, but some would definitely hit home. Civilization would be over.
Conventional military now is a just a cash cow for the military industrial complex. In 2016 military is more likely to be used on its own people than against a foreign enemy
Don't bother, by now everybody should know the nationalistic bullshit just serves to keep the country together.
What binds them together save 'MERICA?
Can't be proud of rotting cities, failed wars and the most expensively dressed yet ineffective fighting force in the world.
Besides when lacking bread the circus needs to be better, given the third world cirucmstances in many states the need for this sort of circus does not require much guesswork.
>>79821394
US policy is that any nuclear attack on a USN supercarrier is considered a nuclear attack on the US mainland. No one would nuke a carrier when it means getting their home country vaporized.
>>79821394
good luck I'm behind 72 nuclear submarines
>>79820970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpH5L8zCtSk
>>79821780
>Vaporised
Good goy.
Nukes are the most overestimated weapon on the planet, their true value lies in their capacity to impress masses of idiots.
Practically the U.S. has enough enemies to be vaporised itself should it nuke someone even by accident.
>>79821863
I always kind of feel like we should just go with 100 subs and 100 destroyers at all times.
Guess my autism just likes the round numbers.
No one is going to nuke a carrier. Every US carrier is probably being shadowed by Russian subs at all times already.
>>79820970
>Sweden
>1 post
>>79820970
it's creepy when people call america a she, do you want to fuck america or something?
>>79821780
>Trade a carrier for New York.
Yeah, not gonna happen.
>>79821898
>Nukes are the most overestimated weapon on the planet,
Neat. Do you want to get your country nuked? Then nuke a US carrier.
>their true value lies in their capacity to impress masses of idiots.
No their true value in they could kill every single person in Moscow and St. Petersburg in under 30 minutes. That's called deterrence.
those are literally floating skyscrapers... or waterscrapers as i like to call them
>>79822056
If you're Russia are you willing to call that bluff?
>>79821870
>1:41
Good goy
>>79821122
Norfolk
>>79822073
>No their true value in they could kill every single person in Moscow and St. Petersburg in under 30 minutes. That's called deterrence.
Either that, or you're one of the easily impressed idiots..
>>79822074
More like floating towns
>>79822206
Yeah I'm sure St. Petersburg would be totally fine if we nuked it.
>>79821052
>Pilot walked (or swam) away from all of those
suck it nerd.
>>79822252
If you were to nuke St. Petersburg, that would likely mean that American cities and/or carriers were already getting nuked..
I don't think anyone would be fine if people started nuking for realsies.
>>79822073
>they could kill every single person in Moscow and St. Petersburg in under 30 minutes.
But everybody knows that doesn't gonna happen, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNYe_UaWZ3U
>>79821293
For you
Murica has never been in a war against a modern military with anti-ship ballistic missiles. Even the argies did some damage to the brits in the falklands with converted missiles.
>>79822377
>If you were to nuke St. Petersburg, that would likely mean that American cities and/or carriers were already getting nuked..
No shit you fucking retard. What the fuck did I just say? Does Arabic not have a word for deterrence?
That is precisely why no one will nuke a carrier.
>>79822454
Brits didn't have AEGIS
>>79822468
But it's just a bluff, anon.
>>79820970
You're goddamn right
>>79822533
Is it? Call it and find out.
>>79820970
>she
>>79822073
>Neat. Do you want to get your country nuked? Then nuke a US carrier.
If tensions rise enough between two nuclear powers, I wouldn't rule anything out. You and russia got pretty fucking close to being glassed in the cold war.
I'll give you most powerful nation on Earth, but do burgers actually believe they can take on the entire rest of the world?
>>79820970
American "millitary" is just a bunch of college boys who joined for benefits.
>>79821485
France?
>>79822049
>>79822757
>Canacucks take issue with the female personification of america
>>79822049
>implying you wouldn't if you could
>>79822454
YES WE SPENT HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITHOUT THINKING OF THIS HOW STUPID OF US
>>79822796
Yes. if were completely unleashed no country would stand a chance.
>>79822854
Idk how that has anything to do with our ability to kick you ass Bulgaria.
>>79822796
Yes. If we were unleashed. No country could match our violent nature.
>>79822903
yep where is france?
Daily reminder that Aegis with SM-2 can't stop this old soviet crap. SPY-1 radar is just some unbelievable shit using same cells for observing and targeting, and all of that with respond for 1 time per 4 seconds.
One Russian sub project 949a can LITERALLY destroy whole US carrier group if would be lucky, and half of group for sure.
>>79822854
What sort of raft/boat thing are they riding here? It looks like a platform in the middle of the ocean.
>>79822796
I don't know, but right now America is literally the hardest country to defeat ever. Our military is has an absurd edge on every country or possible groups of countries that could conceivably band together. There are are over 300,000,000 guns in America. Invading and occupying us is basically impossible. So, I don't know, but we closer to that point than any society I can think of. And we are mostly benevolent, which is incredible. We could take over huge countries and extort them if we wanted to but never would because we are also morally superior to most of the world.
>>79823534
nothing nukes wouldn't fix. Sure its MAD, but you'd still lose.
>>79823637
I guess America could be defeated if the entire world was destroyed, yes.
>>79821485
>>79822903
>>79823288
We got actually 10 submarines only, which is why we are not in that top ten.
>>79821664
t. Leftist media fed shill
>>79823746
They are all nuclear though. I mean, I would rank France's sub fleet pretty high. 10 is basically only enough to control the waters around France itself, though.
>>79822073
You want yours nuked?
Use nuclear retaliation over the loss of a boat.
If they're that bad then consider how there's a lot more nukes in the hands of non-americans that would gladly see you reduced to rubble.
That is what actual deterrence looks like; a deadlock of barking dogs.
Yes, The U.S Military has the means to wipe out any military threat. The problem lies when we try to occupy a country because it's literally impossible. Even though the gay faggot french during WW2 surrendered to Germany they still fucked their occupation up on a daily basis which greatly helped the allies.
>>79823777
Says the guy from a country where the entire media is pervaded by polarisation, bullshit and egocentrism.
Small wonder that Americans travel the least outside of their country of almost any developed country, if they did they'd see the bullshit that rains down on them on a daily basis.
I mean the knowledge of other languages is so little there's not a single alternative news source they can turn to other than English language bullshit; even their attempts at alternatives are just nice little red herrings to keep them from actually researching in depth.
>>79820970
Russia and China would be enough to wipe them from earth.
>>79824014
I can't wait till you all die by ISIS.
>>79820970
>>79821052
> Sweden
> Japan
Need I say more?
>>79824062
Not at all you stupid faggot.
We crush Russia and China
Even the UK and France have a larger force than Russia.
Get fucked faggot.
>>79824085
No, please stop posting.
>>79820970
Ugh I was stationed in that shithole for 4 years. I could name almost all of the buildings in that pic. Bonus points to anyone who can spot the McDonald's. That place did like 6 figures a day in sales. Fucking disgusting.
>>79823294
Daily reminder your president Putin called the united states the worlds only Super Power.
>>79824065
Gonna be waiting a long time then.
Maybe long enough to notice that the world just moves on without you.
(bit of a stretch to assume you'll ever notice of course)
>>79822454
Yes, please school the yanks about military affairs New Zealand.
>>79823746
Still would probably rekt a good portion of China's shit tier sub fleet.
>>79824107
If Russia is so shit why NATO is trying so hard to surround them so they can make a move?
>>79823294
>One Russian sub project 949a can LITERALLY destroy whole US carrier group if would be lucky, and half of group for sure.
You know that a "carrier group" has escorts, right?
>>79824149
And how it makes your carriers more defended?
Do you know for what purpose he's saying that? Why he's always place US above everyone else?
It's just to make EU think that they're Us bitches, nothing more. That US don't have partners, only slaves. Even fucking roaches realized that after NATO's full denial during that jet incident.
You can easily turn away from your best friends.
>>79824319
>You know that a "carrier group" has escorts, right?
Doesn't 'carrier group' refer to both the carriers and the escorts/support ships?
>>79824319
Yes, I mean that sub can destroy almost all of those ships.
24 P-800 missiles, not mention torpedos n shit.
>>79823826
10
all of them are nuclear-powered attack subs or nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines
while north korea might have 62 subs, but they are from the 50s and all diesel-electric with zero electronic equipment, our 6 attack subs would be way enough to defeat all of them, nuke subs are known to be undetectable to diesel submarines without computers to help them in the detection process.
Same goes for the Indian, turk, south korean and iranian navies, no nuclear subs, and their diesel submarines are old.
this top 10 is as retarded as those who say "North Korea third army in the world because they have more troops and equipment"
>>79824290
Because that isn't happening.
>>79821376
Yes, more aircraft carriers than the rest of the world combined means complete dominance of the seas and the skies and that means no ones going anywhere without US permission.
Also, recently the US experimented with knocking out satellites by simply reprogramming existing long range missiles to shoot satellites. (They said it had to be oblitarated because it was falling out of orbit, otherwise it's against international treaties signed by US not to do weapons testing in space). Anyways what this shows is that because the US has many ships all over the world that can shoot long range missiles, all of them can simply be reprogrammed with a software update to shoot down every other nations satellites out of orbit and that means no electronic communications for anyone.
The other bigger nations can also do this, but the results won't be the same. Why? Because you might of recently heard of the experiments that SpaceX has been doing with reusable rockets, and the US government also has been involved in these experiments. What the US has successfully tested is the ability to use a cheaper and reusable rockets to launch into space many smaller satellites that can replace any broken existing satellites.
So, complete domination on sea, in the air and in space, rest of the world's armies BTFO.
>>79824401
...Except we'll do to them what we did to Russia.
Biggest economy on the planet falls away from your side and you might run into slight budgetary problems.
In more than a few senses the EU is closer to a slave master than the US, the US happily empty headedly tanks the problem of just about anything they think is a threat to "their" wealth while constantly declining, thriving on pride and delusions of justice.
The US has managed to acquire more enemies in the timespan of half a century than the european empires over several centuries, have you stopped to consider that maybe they're just being used as yet another tool that sacrifices its internal functioning for external power projection in favor of another group?
Sounds a lot like a vassal, doesn't it?
>>79824519
Wow, you have such an infantile level of knowledge of our navy technology. I don't even know how to debate you, I feel like I might as well tell you we have superman fighting for us.
One destroyer could sink a fleet of your subs. One carrier could wage war against your entire country at once.
>>79824501
Yeah, but the claim that a submarine could sink carriers is pretty uncontroversial, but saying it could defeat the carriers and all the escorts sounds a bit extreme.
>>79824519
Mate your sub would barely be able to leave port, probably break down and catch on fire if you could even afford to launch in the first place.
>>79824276
Yes, as well as the nork subs, iranian, turks, south koreans, japanese.
We also finished developping a new class of nuclear powered attack submarine.
This top 10 juste gives number and put them in order, in the same way I could say the nork army is the third in the world because they have the most troops and equipment
>>79820970
dont delet this
>>79824014
or maybe because a big fucking ocean separates us you stupid pussy. why would we even want to go to yurop. you have nothing to offer, your culture is just a mimic of ours and our land is far more beautiful and diverse than yurop ever will be. the distance you travel to go to another country is the distance i travel to get to grandma's. you netherlands faggots are the worst. you're pussies who descended from pussies
>>79824666
>Still getting hacked by China
explain yourself.
>>79824747
>but saying it could defeat the carriers and all the escorts sounds a bit extreme.
Wiki says a 949a is basically a floating rack of nukes though..
>4 × 533 mm (21.0 in) and 2 × 650 mm (26 in) torpedo tubes in bow
>28 × 533 mm and 650 mm weapons, including Tsakra (SS-N-15 Starfish) anti-submarine missiles with 15 kt nuclear warheads and Vodopad/Veder (SS-N-16 Stallion) and anti-submarine missiles with 200 kt nuclear warhead or Type 40 anti-submarine torpedo or 32 ground mines
>24 × P-700 Granit (SS-N-19 Shipwreck) cruise missiles with 750 kilograms (1,650 lb) HE or 500 kt nuclear warheads
The cruise missiles alone would likely flatten a fleet, wouldn't they?
>>79824666
I know CSA has a project that can crudely replace radarsat 1 & 2 with four dozen low life cubes on short notice. One can only imagine what the US or France has.
>>79824964
There was a rumour in navy circles about five years ago that the Dutch had a swerving cruise missile that could defeat AEGIS.
>>79824732
>The US has managed to acquire more enemies in the timespan of half a century
Who exactly? Muslims and...?
Obligatory "There's a Bill Whittle video for that." post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9DXLDWCalY
God Bless America.
>>79824964
I'm actually in the navy, pet me give you some insight. A carrier battlegroup has some ships in it who's entire purpose is to detect and stop missile attacks before they get anywhere close. Over half of weapons research budgets are focused on anti-missile systems to protect larger ships. No amount of cruise missiles is going to get anywhere near a carrier battle group, our technology is decades ahead of anything anyone else has, except for the stuff we share with close allies.
Dog bles
>>79825226
Almost all of central america, africa, china, india..
Your coward president abusing article v and then electing a negro twice also hurt relations and standing within the developed community.
>>79825324
Litwrally none of those places are enemies fucktard, in fact most are at worst partners if not out and out allies.
>>79825199
Sounds expensive and unlikely that we'd have it, unless we made it accidentally or something..
>>79825289
>I'm actually in the navy
So is the Jap flag..
Also isn't Russian missile tech pretty good? Would a US carrier group really stop all 24 missiles reliably?
>>79824855
Oh dear an ocean, what a huge obstacle.
Now if only someone had invented an easy way to pass over it.
Like, at the fucking dawn of civilization.
Or, if you're feeling adventurous, you could make use of these mythical "aeroplanes", i hear they can move you quite fast from one place to another.
>Your culture is a mimic
This is quite rich coming from a dude whose "culture" is at best derivative of ours but usually just trash.
Your lands are monotonous with worthwhile areas few and far in between, i regret to say i've ever spent time there; here one could travel on foot between one worthwhile place and the next, in the U.S. you need an airplane.
The claims of diversity too are similarly shortsighted; you've got two tastes in the U.S.: American and Mexican.
The rest is just as "diverse" as American "Chinese" food is Chinese.
There are singular cities here with more diversity than the U.S..
Well we're certainly not as foolishly aggressive as you, but then again we don't need to be told not to stick our faces in blenders.
How often did you repeat the mistakes of Vietnam now? Once? Twice? Thrice?
Afghanistan is a permanent war economy where all achievements have been nullified, Iraq blew up in your face over early and unfounded claims of victory, Libya has been armed against you completely, you've been left all but allyless in your so emphasized middle-east?
That you believe your country to stand the comparison between any European country in a positive light is proof enough of your ignorance.
>>79825289
Yeah this is a myth. Russians track your fleet movements 24/7 and their nuclear submarines operate well below the depth limit of optical or radio waves.
Also 20mm cannon fires at 2,700ft/s whereas new Russio-Indian, Dutch, and French cruise missiles all travel at 3,000ft/s+ and have a window from horizon to hit that is less than a second and a half.
>>79825447
>So is the Jap flag..
No I'm not, and you might be right but I think you're also underestimating the disclosed or undisclosed level of ASW that the US navy probably has.
I'm sure carriers specifically are more vulnerable than the US would like to admit but to say a single sub can destroy a carrier group on its own is basically making the claim that ASW is irrelevant and that subs are unsinkable.
>>79825550
You think we don't also track their fleet movements 24/7?
Look up WHIZ on wikipedia. In fact just look up missile defense systems in general. Nothing any other country has is getting anywhere close unless they fire literally hundreds at once, and that many ships is going to attract a lot of attention and something will be done before they can do anything. The rules of engagement shit you see in the media is not how we do it in real situations. 99% of Navy captains tell their crews "your job is to keep this ship safe, if you feel even a small threat, you fire, let me deal with the brass and the media"
>>79824737
>>79824751
[citation needed]
I don't know why you're all so insecure and go full damage control.
>>79826001
>You think we don't also track their fleet movements 24/7?
You do but the difference is that carriers are seen as ultimate symbols of US force projection and are possibly very vulnerable to submarines. Russia doesn't have an equivalent force to you track and doesn't have anything you could destroy that would have as much of an impact.
Don't they only have a single shitty ""carrier"""" anyway
>58% white
>>79824948
China's hacking is shit. The main reason they've had success is that there's so many of them, eventually they'll find a loophole somewhere. And the only thing that is stopping US retaliation is that the current administration is cucked beyond belief.
Now you might've seen US's ability to hack before with the Stuxnet virus, the first time in history that something in the software world was directly able to do physical harm. So no question that the US can hack.
I have been thinking about this for some time though, and what I would do is hack them back, but not just military secrets (since they've got none), but rather hacking their politicians. It doesn't have to be high level politicians because the CPC would be in full damage control, rather go after lower level politicians like mayors and governors and other pleb level officials. Now everyone knows China is corrupt so it won't take long to find evidence of corruption among the pleb politicians and after you've got evidence, leak it to the people of the city or province that the corrupt official belongs to in order to create social disorder in China. Do this every time that they are suspected of hacking and each time work our way up into higher and higher positions and more important cities and provinces.
The reason I say start at the bottom is so that the CPC is more likely to punish a corrupt pleb official and when they do that the leaks become trustworthy to the people and as the leaks reach higher level officials it's too late to simply dismiss them.
This would be intended to create a lot of social disorder in China and mistrust in the party. Maybe even make it so it seems the leaks came from other party members for maximum keks.
Anyway after some time they should get the hint.
>>79826001
Yeah man well i'm not a high level field officer that hasn't done 9+ years in NORAD placements nearly half of which was not on American ships.
>>79826101
Ironic you call for a citation after claiming one of your rickety ass cold war era metal drowning tubes could sink an entire fucking us navy battlegroup
You know we invented anti torpedo aystems decades ago, right? They work pretty well, too
>>79820970
Daily Reminder the US lines up their Navy so the Russians have an easier time carpet bombing it all
>>79826213
OP is an idiot one can't track submarines at depths far shallower than the Russians navy subs operate at. It's physically impossible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attenuation
>>79826421
>taking the bait
remember what happened last time someone fell for the le lined up carrier meme?
>>79826213
Every single ship in a carrier battlegroup has anti-torpedo counter measures, torpedoes are very ancient tech and generally don't sink ships anymore, ship to ship combat is all about tomahawks these days
>>79826101
Talk shit, get hit.
>>79826322
If you weren't US military you weren't allowed to see anything important, NORAD or not
We hide our military capability very well, it's part of the information war
>>79826448
Right, because we don't have our own subs following them at all times...
Protip: carrier groups always include at least 3 or 4 SSNs
>>79826001
Do you even know what tech your own military uses? Carrier groups have only SPY-1 radars and it's modification, and it hase huge fucking FOW like 2°, but also scan 1 time per 4 seconds.
P-800 missiles uses net connection if there's several of them nearby, have 2.5M speed and can change their trajectory pretty fast. Also have some shitty stealth tech, but not so good as US ones.
On long distances carrier group can simply lost the rockets. SM-1 can't do shit with that speed, SM-2 can shot down P-800, but only if they're lucky on trajectory, because there's too high speed to maneuver. Also P-800 have EW on close range like changing EM potential, so for SM-2 (which lead by SPY-1) target will be blurry.
And now imagine 24 missiles zerg rush of that crap.
The main problem is that US ships using same radar for observing and targeting. It's like man with HUGE field of view, but also extremly blurry short sight.
>>79820970
All these people arguing about nukes. The rest of the world is falling behind America when it comes to fast strike capability and middle defense. Every year Natos boarder moves cfurther east and missles and middle sites are being built in Eastern Europe. Think about how close our missiles are to Russia and China compared to how far their missiles are. A lot more time for us to intercept missiles and a lot less time for them to react to our preliminary strike. That's an advantage no matter how you look at it, and in the next 20 years that advantage is going to increase and who knows in the future relations may get to the point that we decide to pull the trigger. Not saying some nukes wouldn't make it to the homeland but that's probably what WWIII will be like.
>>79820970
We, as Europeans, should be proud for creating this nation. We are the true Master race.
>>79826533
During some recent joint military exercises, a single (fr) submarine "sunk" a carrier and its whole escort.
Subs are a great threat for carriers.
>america treats attack on their ships as an attack on the mainland
>so if they use these ships for any form of combat, and get fired back upon, they treat it as an act of war
>if america use one of these ships for anything remotely close to use in a war, they will literally start a war with people more than happy to retaliate with their own missiles and ICBMS
Nice trophy boats.
>>79826963
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/162488/how-a-30_year-old-french-sub-sank-a-us-carrier-group.html
>>79820970
Typical Swedish cuck.
I went to Stockholm last summer.
Stars and stripes flying over many traditional buildings and government institutions.
What is wrong with you idiots.
Where is your nationalism.
Please kill yourselves by choking on your master's cock.
Nothing against USA except globalist Jew infiltration.
Everything against cucked sissys like you, Sweden.
Die.
Die now.
>>79821052
At least our planes made it back to their carriers
>>79820970
>>79822796
I think we like to overestimate our abilities a lot. But we could certainly do a number on most of the world.
>>79826101
People always overestimate themselves when facing Russia.
>>79824753
Russia's are shit as well.
