Explain yourself euroneets.
I moved out when I was 17.
>people living with parents age 25-34
>Finland 4%
>spaghetti-countries and eastern europe ovet 40%
What.
No one here HAS to justify anything to you.
Fuck off
>>79771788
t. lives with parents
Merely cultural differences.
>>79771674
There's 50% youth unemployment in Mediterranean countries, where else are they going to live
>>79771674
I'd guess it's because they're poor as shit and can't move out. I mean just look at the map.
>spaghetti-countries and eastern europe ovet 40%
thats because their economies are shit and they dont get free money for just existing
>>79771882
>disagrees
>so you obvisouly live with your parents
Except they've been dead for 5 years. I love with my wife in Arizona.
U mad?
literally no reason to move out, being an unemployed person only attending university
>hating your parents
Brb living with parents and have 50 grand in the bank. Getting a house soon senpai
Economical suicide.
Capital has retarded land prices and everywhere else is stagnant.
>>79771674
I'm guessing it's part of Italian's culture to live together as a family, unlike America where people kick you out when you turn 18.
It is because you are all fucking suicidal autists who think being at five hundred meters of someone is invading their personal space.
Also we are poor.
>>79771674
>giving all your money to a landlord who doesn't give a shit about you
>>79771674
Here it is a tradition and the natural course of things to stay alongside the parents. We could move, but no one wants to. When a personal family is taken into account, we either try to build ourselves a house on a property large enough for the extended family, or just move somewhere as close as possible, even next door.
It's just the way things are. We are as close as possible, we see no way why would we split.
BONUS: Financial reasons are indirectly eliminated by these choices. I speak for everyone I personally know.
>>79771674
Why not live with parents? Its easier and cheaper for everyone.
Look at murica. Everyone's been moving out, buying their own house and property and now they cant even buy a garage because of the price increase.
The jews got what they want.
>>79771674
>24
>Still living at home
>Hate every second of it
This is the year I get my shit together. I'm going to trade school and getting out on my own. Getting sick of this shit.
>>79772294
Don't Gypsies live on the streets?
>>79772176
Finland low % must be due to their "freindly nature".
>>79772408
>Futebolo
Shouldn't it be calcio?
Spaghetti countryman here, I was "lucky" enough to find a job in frogland when I was 23
most of my friends working in italy can't afford to buy a house/pay rent, even those that started working as 19y/o
27 now
>>79771674
Cheaper, rents in dublin have become rather high. Plus it means my parents get help around the place.
It might be easy to move out when average salary is 200$. I think I will move to Germany to work as a stripper.
>>79771674
The housing market in Canada is a fucking travesty. A two bedroom bungalow in Vancouver WITHOUT A GARAGE OR BASEMENT can cost up to 3.7 million dollars. It's getting more and more expensive in the prairies as well. Shit sucks. I'm thinking of joining the military. Does any other syrupbros know how much you make in the service?
>>79771940
by cultural you mean socio-economic i guess?
>>79772408
Why would you need to get closer than an arms length of someone you're not planning to hug/kiss? And who hugs/kisses someone you're not planning on fucking? You can quite comfortably shake someone's hand from half a metre away and then take a step back. That way you don't invade anyone's personal space.
>>79771674
ok i'll make it very simple for you to understand
you ready?
M O N E Y
Isn't it obvious from that map?
>>79772641
"Calcio" is literally worse than "soccer".
>>79772392
I don't know, look on the window and tell me. Make sure to say your prayer and apologize to them, you don't want to upset your overlords kraut!
How's your wife doing? Last time I've heard about her, she was comforting the poor African refugees. Such a merciful creature, God bless her. By the way, your daughter called you yesterday, she went with a group of Abduls into the Penny Clown Enrichment Tunnel, forgot to tell you. I've left you a psychiatrist's number if the cuck dreams are coming on a low key again. In order for a kraut to be healthy he must have at least 10 per night. Don't thank me, the least I can do.
>>79772712
moreover, I have saved more than 30k in these few years and I really wanna go back to italy to live with my GF, but going back now without a job would be a suicide
>>79771940
>>79771674
It really is. It;s just normal in Southern Europe for the family to stay together for a longer time. Western Euros are cold
>>79772065
t. lived with his parents until five years ago when he killed them and inherited their house
>>79772408
>tfw I was not born a Finn
>>79771674
I moved out two years ago (21 years old).
The simple reason most people my age are still at home is that they're either studying or unemployed.
We have over 40% youth unemployment at the moment.
>mfw I already own an apartment while most of my friends are unemployed and can't even afford a car
Is there a housing shortage in S.Europe, it seems like with declining demographics there would be lots of places to rent? Or is everything owned by the mafia and other corrupt degenerates?
>>79771674
I moved out the same day i was born.
No money . Rent costs too much and you don t get paid enough .
Also finland has high suicide rate , you depressed fags can t handle the loonliness
>>79773252
lucky bastard
you like your job?
>>79772228
>mfw my idea of a perfect house is one where the nearest neighbour is at least 3km away
I won't be able to afford a living place no matter how hard I work, therefore I don't work.
At least at night I can feel like I'm sort of alone. Having to see people during the day without the reward of being alone when you're home is just too much.
>>79771674
So my parents built this fucking huge house and you want me to go live in a cuckshed?
No thanks, Joni.
t. 50k in bank account at the age of 25/no debt/no stress/more grills than you have hairs on your ass
>>79771674
>im in the 11 degenerate %
>>79771674
I'm actually schizophrenic. My parents and psychiatrist are afraid I'd go out and kill/disembowl/rape/fondle the first jew sandnigger i see. So they locked me indoors.
>>79773106
Just fucking don't, mate.
The job market here is fucked and you know it.
>>79771674
If you have a good connection to your family, living with your parents is neither something to be ashamed off, nor beta, or cuck or whatever.
But I a nomad wouldn't understand. I know you can't await to leave your yurt, Genghis.
t. autist who need to justify his existence by making yourself look good over his self made values of living a good life
why do these people exists? idc about your cry for help idiot, kys this is political board, not your diary.
>>79771674
I moved interstate with my GF and her family, I'm 19 and paying 1/4 of the rent + buying some of the essentials and things that I know I only use, paying for half of the internet bill because only her father and myself use the internet anyways. Is this good or am I still degeneracy?
Also I work at a chemist part time while studying a degree in computer sciences, last month I applied to the army reserves and am attending a you session on monday next week. Gf's family is proud because they grew up in the USSR and believe the army is good for males my age.
/thread
>>79771674
Is there a difference between men and women?
>>79773594
I know, won't come back if i don't get a 30k a year salary at least
That would also be less than what I earn now, but enough i guess
>>79773390
No, it's shit.
I work as a programmer for one of the largest banks in Italy and I have to put up with unbelievable retardation all day long.
If people had any idea how the systems that manage their money are held together...
Basically with willpower and lots of duct tape.
>>79771986
Yeah, but our parents lived with their parents and they were all employed. We like big family and sticking together. We don't have college funds but when you get married your parents buy you a house (right across the street), or you build one with your dad (in your back yard lol).
>>79771674
We joined EU and now housing prices are European too.
People can't afford it adding to it high unemployment among the youth.
>>79773335
t. Orphan refugee.
>>79771674
>living with parents is bad
I blame the Boomers for this.
There is nothing wrong with it, you take care of your elders as they grow older.
>>79773714
The UK is heavily scewed by the Scots, they have far higher death rates because of their unhealthy lifestyles
>>79773906
Both of my parents lived with their families until they got married
I don't live with parents. I live alone in grandpa house, he's gone.
>>79771674
>Sucking the welfare tit
>Living on your own
kek
>>79771674
thanks for making me depressed
asshole
>>79773714
Yea, Scandinavia is depressed as fuck. A lot of those deaths are probably intentional suicides and accidental overdoses on prescription drugs they were on to prevent themselves from killing themselves.
>>79773848
>willpower and lots of duct tape
Every computer system you've ever interacted with.
Yes good goyim just leave your house for no particular reason other than...just fucking take the loan and buy/rent you damn goy!
Where my neet denbts bros at
>>79773593
And now you're on /pol/.
They dont have money stupid its simple as that. Same reason they buy one beer and share it while they talk for 3 hours. They are fuckin broke.
>>79771674
We don't want to potentially destroy our lives and our parents lives? Most of us don't live in countries where the goverment pays up for everything.
Females are more likely than males to not live with their parents (here in Canada), and it's possibly because they can get a boyfriend to look after them
In the end we end up with more real estate than your average American can only dream of.
>>79771986
this haha
>>79771674
well, i left the house at 16, went to college for a while, took a year off, traveled around the US living like a bum, graduated this year, found an analyst job in Boston (im good at math and schmoozing), 56K starting, Mom and Dad still want to send me money
livin' the dream
>>79773714
>tfw almost immortal
>tfw 24 and live at home and I'm so embarrassed I created a web of lies so my co-workers think I live with a roommate
>don't even bother trying to meet girls
In North America if you live with your parents you're FUCKED
You could be a male model making 150k a year at google living with your parents but girls would rather date an overweight mcdonalds employee with his own apartment
This only applies to white people though
>>79771674
Well the more developed a country the long it takes to grow a child, raise a child and apparently have that child move out. Just a cause of a highly developed country
>>79774228
>american ""wealth""
im 26 and only have a part time job but my mom is old and alone and has really bad depression so i plan on staying here as long as i can to help her out
>>79774596
>In North America if you live with your parents you're FUCKED
i find this is generally true unless you already have a steady gf from high school
>>79774329
We've got 3 apartments, a house with a small field to grow grapes and another house as large as the grape field. + a seperate field used to grow chestnuts that is 14 acres.
I dont know what to do with this even if I inherit half.
>>79774127
that makes it worse not better senpai
>>79771674
>21
>still live at home
>3/5 years university done
>won't be able to afford house for 9/10 years
>thinking of killing myself
>>79775080
>>won't be able to afford house for 9/10 years
Shit mate what happened?
>>79775080
stop whining -- you're only 21
>>79775080
>tfw just entered university at 23
>probably going to live with parents until I'm 26-27
>which means no gf until I'm 26-27
>>79771674
Its easier i will stay in my mums house my gf can move in and we all win
>>79774814
Lol senpai we're about the same. Slavlife bestlife
lol @ anyone who's *proud* of moving out. Hey, maybe that's what you needed.. but it's no achievement.
13.9% just shows how uncultured USA is. The thought of a family living together for Areason other than financial restriction is humerous
fuck this world
>>79773714
>pseudo-niggers not killing themselves to make the world better
at least northern europeans have the decency to kill themself instead of being a burden on society
>>79771674
Everyon'es got it all wrong, parents should have kids so that when their son is like 18, they are 85-90, then you don't have to wait too long for them to die, and you live most of your life stress free seen as you've acumulated more money by not having to deal with kids so early on and the government is helpping you out with how much you earn with your retirement income.So more work throughout your life, less stress cuz no kids, only have to have kids at 80, die, and your kids now own everything you had and can grow the family's riches exponentially.
>>79775420
>not killing themselves
>implying
We have second highest suicide rate after Japan.
>>79775216
Half of australia will be a Chinese colony by then
The bank of china is conquering us via real estate
>>79772916
>and take a step back
This is where autism begins
>>79771674
>qz.com
nigga you're not event trying
notice that the smaller percentage living with parents, the more degenerate the country is.
multi-generational households contribute to a sense of cultural and ethnic belonging. moving out early contributes to atomization and cultural decadence.
>>79775539
i was talking about the pseudo-niggers around the mediterranian.
Russia and Finland are basically the same, just more poverty in Russia.
>>79775714
I see. Don't you guys also tend to get depressed easily?
>>79774726
Idk man i spent time in italy and yeah theres the occasional rich guy but you guys are mostly poor as fk. Im not some rich millionaire but at least i can afford a fuckin beer and a house to myself. Have fun living in mommys little flat.
>>79775488
Or maybe just have a big enough house. My parents house, built by my grand-grandpa, has two floors, one suitable for a numerous family, another a bit smaller which can easily fit a couple. I wouldn't be surprised if my dad just offered me the family sized floor if I get married and he and mom simply move to the other floor.
This jew-proof method of course is hard to digest for good goyim like new worlders and northerners who can't get enough of that jew cock in their rear.
>>79775690
>greece
>romania
>italy
>portugal
>not degenerates
>>79775690
confirmed.
>tfw incel with no friends and ever diminishing contact with family
>>79775800
you keep telling yourself that man, data after all doesn't lie
>>79775790
Yes, we have among the highest depression and suicide rates in the world too
It's a cold, dark world basically.
>>79771674
Meh. I live with my parents because housing/rent is crazy expensive here.
At least I can save up from some of our profits and buy a house one day in either France or Italy
>>79771674
>minimum wage is €500, rent is around €650 for a shed
>>79775873
Why is it so difficult for your southerners to understand that someone may want independence from their parents?
>>79775800
>at least i can afford a fuckin beer
>implying
>>79775934
I dont care what the average is. In my white city everyone can afford to live. Compare your tiny coutry to my city and it would be different anyway. Enjoy your poverty.
>>79771674
Is this the migration rate map?
>>79776107
You keep chocking on that Atlanto-semitic cock like the good submitted goyim you are, padANO, I'll take the simpler traditional route.
And for your information, I do live alone, but only because of actual necessity(college in another city).
>>79776120
Ironically, that's not even the average, it's the median. Can't expect low IQ mongrels to read I guess.
>13.9%
Something is off...
https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2015/october/millennials-living-home-student-debt-housing-labor
>>79776381
Kek alright you got me. Its just your culture to live in your parents meatball shack.
>>79774596
I live with my parents and have gf and im 26. Honestly if the girl likes you she wont care and if she does shes a bitch
>>79771674
It's called economic crisis for a reason you retard. You are either stuck in a shit job or no job thus little to no money to pay rents.
>>79776662
While your culture is to get kicked out like a dog at 16 so mommy can fuck the pool boy and daddy can become a transvestite. You were, after all just a burden on them and they couldn't fully practice American individualism with a litter to feed. Of course, you have to give everything you earn back to the insurance jew and the housing jew. You really thought you could take it with you? Cuck.
>>79771674
>Denmark
>1.8%
Are the rest of you even trying?
>went to army when 18
>acquired first home when 19
>went to university when 19
>went to work when 20
what's so hard faggots?
>>79776662
Yes and it's actually rooted in tradition, as opposed to the debt ridden kike culture you so happily take part of like any good American. Houses always used to be for families, not just for parents.
But I'm not here to tell anyone to stop playing catch up with kike consumerist culture, if you can afford it or you are just happy to get indebted for that, good for you. I'll stay away form banks as much as I can, personally.
>>79774596
That's only because you're so obviously insecure about living with your parents. Girls hate insecurity
>>79776304
Whatever floats your boat man.
I'm just pointing out that maybe, just maybe, not everyone thinks like you.
I don't wanna live with my parents forever.
>>79777026
They kicked me put with 150k (a small loan lel) and i started my own business. Cant complain much. Would you?
>>79777068
To each his own my italian friend.
>>79777159
>here's some shekels, now fuck off son
This is so Jewish it surprises me you're a goy
>>79777159
I'm fine with that. It's good to keep the money in the family.
I couldn't imagine living with my parents past 20
It must really take a toll on your mental state
>>79777068
Jesus what is your fucking problem?
You wanna live with your goddamn parents you go right ahead.
Not everyone needs their mom to cook them 25kg of peperonata every single day.
>>79777378
KEK
>>79771674
housing is expensive
>>79777378
Thank you... Last think i want is my mom to see a hooker walk out of my room with cum dribbling down her face.
>>79777378
(((someone))) is triggered, but again I don't expect anyone here to read
>>79777433
Wipe the tears from your face young one and man up
I'd rather not go and live in a shared house with degenerates, which is effectively the only way to move out.
>>79776090
this
My mother used to work for about 620€ a month and did 260 hours, per month, so that's 2.40€/ hour, Portugal is the worst country tax wise it looks like it's a 5 star country to tourists who then go around saying how easy we have it, when our minimum wage is starting to be comparable to India's.
Portugal is a fucking shithole where either your daddy and mommy are doctors or lawyers to keep your ass baby smooth from any economical hardship and you get a decent education, or you're a Barbosa whose destiny is to go to the nearest tavern drink beer all night ear pig ears and watch Ronaldo on the tele.
To make matters worse, we fuciking ALLOWED chinese store clerks to be immune to taxing for 2 years now we're plagued with these dirty rats who don't even sell any decent products, and portuguese entrepeneurs can't do jack shit because they get blasted to outer space by how cheap Chinese people sell their shit.
We're only known for discorvering shit which is basically the same as a pat on the head to an autistic kid who just learned not to shove a spoon of peanu butter up his ass for fun.We are literally the laughing stock of EU.
Fucking.End.My.Life-
Explain yourself Spurdo. Why do you assume that everyone has a bad relationship with their parents. Projecting much?
>>79777433
you don't buy it all at once
while you live with your parents until you are 30 most people are 10-12 years invested and rent free in a couple more years
>>79777504
I think that would make my dad proud if nothing else.
>>79777504
you know you could just take the hooker to a hotel room, right?
>>79777801
>minimum wage
There is no minimum wage in Italy, yet I've never ever heard anyone earning that little.
>>79772408
Whats the common distance for the swedish? I spoke to a swedish girl recently and she was very close like mm's.
>>79773714
gonna have to agree with the moor. Something is objectively healthier in southern european cultures, (and latin american in the case of NA) and it is probably the closer familial bond that saves people from depression.
/thread
>>79778329
To be fair she moved away several feet after i expressed some thoughts i had gotten from /pol.
Not trying to be an asshole here :P
>>79771788
Someone is living with mommy and daddy
Explain to me how it is wrong to want to keep the family united and strong, to take care of your elderly parents and spend as much time as you can with them before they die?
Give me one fucking argument you cold, heartless, slaves to propaganda.
>>79771940
Well it could also be a metic to me sure the health of an economy
>>79778191
Worst thing adding to our shit minimm wage, we have a 23% (it rounds to 25) tax on EVERYTHING we buy, so it makes it even harder to buy a loaf of bread and some noose to tie around our necks, ESPECIALLY houses, that shit is fucking broken, you end up giving up a quarter of your house's value for the sake of losing money.
Oh and wanna hear the best joke?If you want to start a business you gotta declare every single fucking thing, what type of business it is, if it's gonna use machinery, what type, and as soon as you file that business you start paying taxes over it even if you haven't even earned anything from it, you can literally just say you opened a business but don't actually open it and boom, you're alreaady losing money you don't have, and you'll won't be able to get whatever type of equipement you want because you can't afford it.
It's pretty much a system that makes sure that everyone only has enough money to go to work, go home, while using public transport, because there is no way you'll be able to afford your own car, and if you do buy one, have fun maintaining it.
>>79778696
you aren't consuming, which is basically another holocaust, how dare you, you stupid goy?!
The biggest motivator to move out back in the day was marriage and starting your own family. No woman would consider dating/marrying a man who lived at home. But with marriage no longer a big life goal for most men, why bother? If you can continue to get free housing and food, why not? Women have been doing it since forever.
>>79771674
I moved out and got a job when I was 17, and have been providing for myself ever since (I'm now 31).
>>79778696
its a kike, american and anglo thing to kick your children out at 18 and some times earlier.
>>79773714
That Italian/Spanish face when you even don't have a freedom to kill yourself while living at your parent's house
>>79778696
People don't want to move out because they want to see their parents die alone and wrinkled like a winter exposed penis.They move out because they want to live independently, imagine being in a baby stroller until the age of 25 even thought you can walk and run and jump and shit while squatting.
Plus not everyone has loving parents who'll accept them in their homes until they're 40, my uncle is still living with my grandmother and he's fucking useless as a human being/worker/vegetable.
>>79778869
Exactly. The jews and bankers can suck my dick.
>>79779109
I live with my parents, I have an awesome job that I enjoy and it pays well, I spend a lot of money making my parents comfortable, bills, food, excursions, you name it.
You mean to tell me that's somehow wrong, because I don't want to take a loan for an apartment of my own making me a slave to some bank for the rest of my life? You think I would be insulted, because I am somehow not ((independent)) or a ((man))? LMFAO
I'll keep living with my parents, enjoying my life and never taking a loan for anything, kike bankers can SUCK MY DICK.
>>79778869
I actually get what this guy is saying but we just think different. I have one life. I wanna drive the nice car and have sex with girls at my house. I wanna be able to come home to no one crank some music and do some blow. I want to enjoy myself and spend my money how i want and whan i die, probably from a heart attack at 50 i will do my best to make sure my money goes to some sort of a good cause. Theres not just one way to do it.bim not gonna dedicate my life to fighting the jews.
>>79772100
lmao, this.
cucks that leave early are just that, cucks.
>>79779275
Pretty degenerate post imo.
>>79779107
tää :D
>>79772916
Didn't you know everyone wants to fuck in France?
>>79773714
wtf I love turkey now
1. I cant afford it
2. I have the biggest room in the house
3. Its free, and I also get free food
4. My parents are gone half the time, so I have the house to myself more often than not
Why would I move out? I think cucks are just mad cuz mommy and daddy kicked them out, financially crippling them
>>79774726
>Debt per adult
Is that national debt or for each person? How the fuck do people from nordic countries such as Iceland, Norway and Romania get so fucked?
I'm not really under any pressure desu I have a decent job, no gf and I help them out
>>79773714
How the fuck is anywhere in Europe higher than the world average? Parts of Eastern Europe I could understand, but actual Europe like Britain and France?
Not our fault if your country has more reindeers than actual people and they even pay you to do something else than killing yourselves
>>79779266
>You mean to tell me that's somehow wrong
Never said that
>You think I would be insulted, because I am
You could set yourself on fire I wouldn't really care
>I'll keep living with my parents
That's good, you're not throwing the time your parent's are alive away and are giving them the attention and love they gave you while growing up (i hope), which most of us aren't I belive, but regardless, I think that living with your parents until you're old is exaggerated as fuck, it'd be better to be born while they are mummies and inherit their shit afterwards when you're in your youth and with their economical boost applied to you, you're free to pursue your studies, business attempt ideas, expereinces, bla bla bla you get the idea.
I can't move out because there aren't economical conditions for a minimum wage cuck like me to move out, but if I could I would, I'd rather live by myself than live with my mom and dad forever,
I prefer southern european style where people live with their parents till 40's
>>79779900
Triple checked. Also people kill themselves a lot.
>>79779275
That's all good, but the point is, do it if you actually need to and measure the pros and cons of it, not just because you should.
Would you really get indebted at 18 with a min wage job in the US just because it's custom to get kicked the fuck out? Only to find yourself miserably alone in your empty debt ridden house when you maybe won't even get a gf?
My parents won't stop me if I want to leave, but at the same time it's our house, for the family, so if I need I can stay.
And while personally I left for college, plenty of dudes I know still live with their parents, have a gf, a job, and plenty of disposable income as they don't really have to spend much except to pay a little for the house. So they can be "free" in that sense, and trust me, finding a place to fuck is really not an issue, at least not enough to need a whole house for themselves.
>>79779934
Fuck off Marco, we even won the best pizza in the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw53dNE2-CM
>>79771674
It's called "taking care of your family", you antisocial degenerates.
>>79778807
>he thinks it isn't the exact same thing in Italy, just 10x worse
>>79771674
>17
yea brah it's so easy when daddy pays for everything huh?
>>79773213
Do understand that for the friendships we do have, we invest quite heavily. On average, at least. Big country, all kinds of people.
But in general, it's no true friendship unless it's life long.
>>79780259
Only we are keeping the flame alive brother, the kikes literally destroyed families in the west.
Think a single second, it's somehow ((shameful)) to love, take care and be with your family.
lol
hope I'll die before turning 25
>>79779275
But anon, you wont have a house, because you dont have money for a house. You wont have a nice car because you dont have money for a nice car. Girls wont have sex with you because you dont have money.
Did you guys know that in finland you will get free rental house from goverment =) If you're unemplyeed or student they will pay the rent for you (around 350-750€) and give you 480€ to spend on anything! If you're student you get little bit less but you dont have to pay anything from school
Oh boy I love Finland where the poorest are the richest FeelsGoodMan
I have 56m2 apartment 500 meter away in central of a 100k people town =)
>living with parents
>no gf
>moved out
>fucked a girl 3 weeks after
>started dating another girl
>still dating her
Coincidence? I don't think so. Also a question to those who live with parents - how do you fuck girls?
>>79775975
>It's a cold, dark world
Summer is pretty decent though, in most years.
It's been a prime ryyb&narc outside with acquitances weather a whole month already!
>>79780787
you get married
>>79780855
Summer is fucking awesome in Funland, unless you dont have the money to spend your summer propely.
>>79778807
>Oh and wanna hear the best joke?If you want to start a business you gotta declare every single fucking thing, what type of business it is, if it's gonna use machinery, what type, and as soon as you file that business you start paying taxes over it even if you haven't even earned anything from it, you can literally just say you opened a business but don't actually open it and boom, you're alreaady losing money you don't have, and you'll won't be able to get whatever type of equipement you want because you can't afford it.
Man, that's pretty fucked up system. Around here there aren't any of that sort of flat taxes that run start run on businesses. Owning a "desk drawer" business is pretty effortless even if we aren't exactly entreperneurial. The reason for not being is that once things get serious enough to need employees, the complexities kick in, though modern rental staff agencies can circumvent a good bit of them.
>>79781016
Hear, hear. We've had the telly out on multiple nights to watch the European cup. Also grilling, beer, weed and sauna. Oddly, in one night - a chess tournament.
I don't know if all housing associations do this, but I'm glad mine does.
Outside of Nordicland governments don't give young people/NEETs government-sponsored apartments just because.
>>79772300
Because by the time youre 24 you should atleast have a masters and be making enough that there is no point in living at home. I mean jesus are you people seriously defending living at home past 20?
>>79771674
I'm 23 and live with my parents, because I'm not paying money to the rental jew so some boomer fuck can make money off his property "investment". There are houses and apartments around here that have been fucking empty for over a year because they're priced above the reality of what they're worth.
I have 15k in the bank and am soon to purchase an acre of land right outside of Knoxville, and get a downpayment on a starter home to build on that property.
Amazing that it would actually be cheaper to do this than to rent in the same area.
Boomers are fucking retarded, I cant wait for this housing bubble to pop. You see a lot of new zoning laws setup to stop residential areas of springing up, because doing so would harm their income off rentals, and they feel entitled to always win if they gamble. My new house lowing the value of their """""""""""investment"""""""" in property is only an added benefit. I guess if they actually rented them out, they'd realize that all they own and invested only has half of the appraised value, and that they're not worth as much as they think they are.
tl;dr, housing is being rented out for more than is actually possible, so I'm just going to buy land and build my own house instead.
>>79781567
>We've had the telly out on multiple nights to watch the European cup. Also grilling, beer, weed and sauna. Oddly, in one night - a chess tournament
wtf guys are these considered special achievements or smth?
>>79781567
>I don't know if all housing associations do this, but I'm glad mine does.
Depends on the neighbours, I guess.
I wish i had such great neighbors to drink some cheap beer with and talk shit and do a sauna competition with ;_;
>>79781789
masters degrees typically require an IQ of 120 or better. not many people have that. that being said you should not be living at home when your 20.
>>79771674
yeah free food and rent sucks! it sure sucks having an extra $2000 a month to do whatever the fuck I want with and no property taxes, power bill and upkeep!
>>79781957
yes, having good neighbors is a achievement.
You don want any somalians as your neighbors, or gypsies, alcoholics or old people who "can't even hear but still cry about loud noices at 6PM"
>>79781957
I think it's not typical to get that cummy with your neighbors in most parts of the western world.
I mean these were mostly strangers. There were like three households among us who kind of had planned it but through out the night all sorts of people popped to spend some time.
To clarify, we had it out like in a parking lot, not in some one's back yard.
>>79781789
wasting money because of what strangers think is for fucking idiots
>>79773106
>I have saved more than 30k
In California, that's like 3 months rent.
>>79782204
your a pathetic bum. grow up. be a man.
>>79781957
>>79782207
Pic related
>>79782309
If you like this shit you should really move to a southern country
at least here people are chilling with each other outwards in parks 9/12 months,with weed beers grills music and all that stuff
actually someone is considered a weirdo if he doesnt want to chill with his neighbors or friends outwards
Eastern Europe is poor so It's cheaper and way easier to live with your parents, plus family bonds are stronger here
>>79782373
I'm a pathetic 49 year old virgin neckbeard who lives in government housing and on welfare. When I grow up, I'm want to be an astronaut.
>>79771674
Just curious, I have a job but I'm pretty sure I have autism, can I get on disability for that?
>>79773714
>deaths per 100 000 people
Uh, shouldn't it be 100 000? Everybody dies at some point
>>79771674
http://www.demographia.com/db-intlhouse.htm
SQUARE METERS
All New New Detached
Australia 206 235
Austria 91 96
Belgium 86 119
Canada 177
Denmark 109 137
Finland 77 81
France 88 113
Germany 87 109
Greece 80 126
Ireland 88 88
Italy 90 82
Japan 95 132 187
Luxembourg 125 101
Netherlands 98 116
New Zealand 176 200
Portugal 83 82
Spain 85 97
Sweden 90 83
United Kingdom 85 76
United States 203 221
>>79783206
Well Chris Chandler doesn't seem to be living very broadly, though for you it might be heavily dependant on your home state?
>>79783225
Average house size by country.
The gov't steals the money here.
>lived in shared acommodation
>now living with parents and saving
>will get homeloan but most likely have to rent out rooms to randoms/friends to get by comfortably
>only way to get rid of these people is to get a gf and rely on dual-income
My longtime fantasy of having a place of my own and privacy will never be a reality.
>>79783462
>My longtime fantasy of having a place of my own and privacy will never be a reality.
But would you have much privacy if you had a WOMAN in your life. I think not.
Seech, I could never bear to share an accommodation with anyone else, especially a woman.
t. 27 yo virgin.
>>79783193
if I had my way you would fucking starve. your fucking lucky women can vote you worthless leech. do all of us tax payers a huge favor and hang yourself.
>>79771674
Can't live with your parents when they're still in Syria sucking and praying Isis doesn't blow them up.
>>79772801
Were I Canadian I would move to US and buy a farm. Unlike europeans, you can move there legally. Well at least you could sometime, dont know if you still can.
http://abc13.com/realestate/ghost-town-up-for-sale-on-craiglist-/1413093/
>'Ghost town' up for sale on Craiglist for $350,000
No excuses, mom kicked me from home when i was 16. Because i had fistfights with stepdad. It was good thing in the end.
>>79783646
Nah, I'll hang on until the end.
>>79783847
To clarify this. In Finland this works quite the same as in other places initially, you need to hang out at your friends, but the nanny state kicks in in few days or weeks, you get an apartment and a neet-bucks to start the neetification process effortlessly.
>>79771674
Canada is 40% man. Help us , we starving for jobs
>>79775975
>Yes, we have among the highest depression and suicide rates in the world too
Not really though
>move out because you want to be independent
>end up spending all your money on rent and living expenses
>never establish a financial portfolio
>literally slave away to just exist and have little money to further yourself
versus
>stay with parents through school and first few years of employment within career
>acquire a large safety net for both you and your family
>able to purchase a home, and thus be able to have some tax benefits versus people who pay rent / have collateral
If you can stay with your parents, do it. You'll be laughing at those who are still renting (I.E. tossing their money in the garbage) in their thirties.
>>79772176
Ya I got kicked out at 19 making like 1400 a month.
>live with roommate, pay 500 rent
>car insurance 300
>fuel 300
>food 300
>50 electricity
>>79772801
Yo bro! I'm joining military too I think boot camp is October. Gonna give up personal training biz for steady schedule and income and better self worth.
Started training yet?
>>79784596
learn to budget, retard.
>>79775975
But what is wrong with that? It depends how you look at it. Hell can be heaven and heaven can be hell.
>>79774596
Depends if parents are cool with sleep overs. Otherwise I agree
>>79784655
What are you driving, a combine harvester?
Even I don't spend that much on fuel or food and bot are fucking expensive here.
>>79785011
Missing the point entirely.
>hurr learn to arbitrarily divide up what money you have
No need to be envious of people who have more financial sense.
I thought it was something cultural/normal in the eastern European countries.
>>79784655
It was a 2002 Chrysler integra. Our insurance here is a bitch. The car had winter tires and was shitty on gas and I had to drive lots for work haha:(
Curse ICBC
>>79774118
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
>>79771674
Its ok finbro, just because your parents were abusive drunkards that may have sexually abused you, it doesn't mean you need to lash out at those who actually have caring and understanding parents.
>>79771674
>2016
>not living in a multi-generational home
>>79785335
300 hundred is nothing for food. This was in 2007 when things were much cheaper too. Our communist dairy and egg consortium have kept both at the same price for 20 years though.
I found out I'm allergic to wheat so I can easily spend 600 a month on food if I don't want to eat purely staple items, meat and protein powder/sugar.
>>79786282
Ecch, could you have had a better insurance deal with a different car? Meaning is that a sort car that the young blokes like to rice and the insurance companies know that?
Because I'm paying like 400€ a year for insurance. Given't that's only the minimum traffic insurance, but hey, the car costed only like 1400€.
I'm mooching off my parents after college so I can save up for a down payment on a coop/condo.
I live in NYC so renting is for suckers.
>>79771674
I don't know man, it just seems stupid to waste your money paying rent when you can invest it in something that will generate you money.
I plan to leave my house when I'm 25 or older, not when I'm 20. Moving out when you're 17 sounds fucking retarded and except bragging rights and debt, you gain absolutely nothing from it.
Now, if your parents kicked you out, then your parents are retarded.
>>79771674
Northern snowniggers have no family unity whatsoever. People here are expected to inherit and upkeep the property from their parents. It's not uncommon for even poorfags here to have several houses in different locations. So a 30yo person might live 300km away, completely independently from his parents, but the apartment/house he lives in is still owned by his parents on paper.
>mfw westernpsychopaths boomers and genX-ers make their kids pay rent after turning 18
>mfw they charge them for utilities and food
>mfw 18yo fags get thrown out and have to work for mcdick to pay to live in a 100sq ft cage
You can't make this shit up.
>>79786626
No it was the only presentable car for $2000 (2007) and I was changing from working in the weight room to self employment training people.
I could've got a 1988 honda 28th rust and faded paint also but it wasn't conducive for my work. It wasn't nice at all and I got a deal for it having a cracked wind shield and repairing it on my own.
It wasn't the best situation.
>>79784596
This anon is 100% correct.
You retards are literally throwing your money away, you're never going to be successful with such reckless spending.
>>79786626
Honda would have been 150 a month insurance but you can't pull up in a green mildew tinged vehicle with rust and then ask for $50 An hour.
surprised we arent higher
>>79787101
Just to clarify, is you insurance a proper your value back and expenses paid type of deal, or just the bare legal minimum to keep the car in register?
>>79786229
Probably more to do with communism which was not very efficient in lots of things, including building houses. They still have lesser economies than western countries.
Southern europe is different, they have the money but do not like to move and live on their own. Greeks, italians, spaniards are better off than Finns. (Seriously, its a common misconception that they are not, in Finland the national income may be higher but the government is not very friendly to its people. Lots of corruption. Money goes to corporations, lots of which are nowadays foreign.)
>>79786626
Looked exactly like this with the hood slightly rusting and everything. Looked like something that wasn't just pulled out of a scrap yard compared to anything else for 2000 At the time
The only reason I'm still living at home is so that my mother don't fall into a degenerate lifestyle. She needs me to always be there and judge her.
>>79787461
It is required to have $1 000 000 liability insurance that goes to cover other peoples expenses if you are at fault in an accident. I pay $3000 per year for a 2.0L 2010 Kia commuter. It is mandatory to buy this insurance.
This will not repair your car, that is "collision" and costs extra.
>>79787101
How much is the fine for driving uninsured? Mostly people are paying of course but I have known people who do not.
>>79771674
I leased out a house and brought my pops due to his financial issues, he helps and I help and it's real chill between us. Does that count?
>>79787870
Wow. I don't think our insurances are at least that much directly subsidized, but maybe some other aspects of wellfare state affect it.
>>79787461
Bare minimum for that car in 2007. My motorcycle has full coverage and is 130 a month. I have pathfinder that is almost 200 a month for bare minimum right now.
>>79787958
It's 300 cc.
If it was 1000 cc it would be 400 a month for insurance
>>79788090
>>79771674
Hello, Sweden's ballsack.
>>79788080
Our province only has 1 car insurance company. Its a full monopoly and you can't buy from anyone but ICBC
>>79788202
I still can't get over this because everyone here thinks it's really cheap to own a vehicle in North America.
>>79788090
Sounds like the insurance companies are making lots of money. :D Must be a cartel there.
I live in the outer hood and can afford to live comfy in my dumb apartment. This won't last though, the rich are fleeing due to taxes and thousands of Indians and refugees are coming in.
>>79771940
Behold. The guy who sweeps shit from the sidewalk with a broom for 2k per month talking about income disparity lool.
>EU reverts schengen space
>"OMG, mah benefits.." Butthurt bosch filth
Burguers can talk all the trash they want, but not you.
>>79787669
>the government is not very friendly to its people.
>>79771674
Overlay that data with the % unemployment in the same age bracket. You will see that most of those nations have very high unemployment and therefore have no choice but to live with their parents.
>>79787958
It's like 400 I think if you drive uninsured and I think the second time they take your vehicle and license away. It is actually more sensible to not pay. I was in a car accident and they refused to cover medical expenses my doctor recommended which according to law is what is needed.
>live in big house
>have sex with gf
>go for a smoke on the balcony
>dad brings coffee
>tells me grandma made banitsa
kek, you faggots don't know what comfy is
>>79788417
>>79788321
>>79788314
It's a total monopoly and scam here. Other provinces can insure for about half or even third as much.
I heard a lot of states in USA you can get insured for $60 a month.
God bless America lol
>>79771674
Map over religions in Europe (pic)
protestant/catholic/islam
looks the same as OP
>>79789408
That sounds really comfy desu.
