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Does /pol/ like the concept of having a high speed rail service in the US?
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What? You don't have a high speed rail service?
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>>79752008
No, it's a retarded waste of tax-payer money
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>>79752267
What? You don't have a high speed rail service connecting Britain to Greece?
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>>79752008
I love the idea, but not if it centers in fucking Chicago
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>>79752008
I want hyperloop
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>>79752267
Nope

The US rail system is a mixture of old regional rails that are inefficient and expensive.

From Philadelphia to Boston I would have to transit between three different rails and overlay in New York wait for a train there and then head to Boston. All on a 200+ ticket
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>>79752487
Biggest issue on that image is that the network goes into Mexico tbqh.
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>>79752397
Beat me to it.
Also, don't run it through Pennsylvania. They've got the disappearing railroad blues.
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>>79752585
Good idea in theory, horrible waste of taxpayer money in reality

Look how well Amtrak worked out. Granted, it wasn't a bad idea, but unlike Europe America's population density is much lower and a high speed rail system will just have less passengers but require more oil.
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I'll tell you what, mate. There is some decrepit freight rail around, and I don't know if that's viable or not.

But you let me drive my car on to a train so that I can relax and you do the few hundred miles and I do the last tens of miles, then we've got ourselves a deal.
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>>79752008
It's a great way to fatten up your wallet when you own the contract. Taxpayer raped again.
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I don't like the idea of getting high speed rail just for the sake of being able to proclaim "Hey look we're just like the Europe too! We're so progressive!"

Never really understood liberals and their hard-on for trains in the 21st century. There are some areas where it might make sense. Most of the US is way too spread out and sparsely populated for it to be economical, though. Plus we already have pretty good motor vehicle and flight infrastructure.
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>>79752792
didn't mean to quote
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>>79752008
I like it in theory as long as the price to ride can be kept down. If it will end up being like current long distance rail then it will never get used. The purple line on that map is dumb though. You can't just run a high speed commuter line across international borders what are we Europe?
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>>79752008
High speed rail = high speed niggers
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>>79752008
The government already got involved in my high speed air service. I'd appreciate it if they didn't "contribute" to the rail service as well.
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>>79752008
you know that planes exist now right
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>>79752267
Intercity passenger rail is something that only really happens on the East coast. Boston, NYC, Philly, Baltimore, DC. The rest of the nation is too spread out to make it competitive with air travel. It exists in the rest of the country, but it loses money, is sustained on subsidies, and not many people use it.

and unless they can make the price of a ticket lower than airfare, while keeping the speed very high (which means avoiding minor stops on the way, which is politically difficult) I don't see how passenger rail is viable outside the abovementioned corridor.
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Yes. Modern technology needs to be implemented, we are a first world nation, even china has more modern transportation. We are VERY far behind in transportation.
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>>79752826
How about if public transportation in cities was at the level as it is in Europe or Japan?
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>>79752008
why would anyone travel almost 24h to get from NY to LA when they can fly
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don't you guys have cheap af flights?
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>>79752008
Sure, /pol/ would love nothing more than to waste a trillion dollars expanding Amtrak.
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>>79753011
Thanks ameribro
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Not enough shekels for that
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>>79753013
china has more population density, too. take a look at the map and ponder the fact that most of the track would be laid in areas where fucking nobody lives
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wouldnt this bring food prices down since shipping produce and other items would become cheaper?
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Its a dumb idea. The US simply isn't the size of Japan or Sweden.

Here in Califonria we are trying to build a high speed train from San Francisco to LA. I don't know anyone that goes between those places often. We can't even get low speed rail connecting the LA area.
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>>79752871
A high speed rail system can reduce costs of flying and make the roads less congested.
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>>79752008
Almost 3 times as slow as an airplane? Sign me the fuck up m8!
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>>79753028
Well driving in my city sucks, but so does the mass transit. Fine by me if you want to keep it up, especially considering it was about to put the workers out of work when they tried to shut it down.

But that's not the same as long-distance travel. The freight trains near me could easily get stacked up with cars for nearly a mile and still toot along comfortably.
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>>79753028
>How about if public transportation in cities was at the level as it is in Europe or Japan?
So tear down the suburbs or do you just want to go full Obama and ship niggers on Section 8 to the suburbs until they die from lack of white taxpayers?
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>>79752871
The three coasts could stand to have high speed rails.
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>>79752008
>just ignoring a majority of the country
Na, you stupid faggots can drive yourselves like normal adults do. I'm not subsidizing you cucks to go visit other shitty cities and whatever else.
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>>79753173
But its the current year!
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>>79752487
Chicago has been a significant rail hub for the midwest for 150 years.
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>>79753194

There's already an extensive freight rail network in the US.

These would be passenger only rail lines.
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The center should be in Indianapolis since every interstate goes through there anyway
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>>79752008
I love trains, but the highest-speed passenger train in the US in the best possible route for a passenger train in the US -- the Acela -- is still a money-loser.

There is no evidence these new routes would do any better.

I wouldn't mind seeing Californians try a route LA - SF or LA - LV as long as it's with their own money, but I doubt it will be profitable.

I'm holding out for self-driving cars.
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>>79752008
Yes, but only in the NE where it could turn a profit.
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>>79752008
here we go again

Rail systems are the darlings of Socialists because they're never profitable, cultivate a large block of self-interested (and unionized) workers, and demand large subsidies in perpetuity.

It's pure socialism.
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>>79753056
This.
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The only way a high speed rail service would be profitable is to restrict it to the west and east coasts where population density is greatest.
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>Implying /pol/ is capable of contemplating anything that involves increasing taxes.
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>>79752008
This is why we have road trips.
Plus transit systems support globalism
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>>79753560
If the taxes were worth it, then I'd enjoy paying them.

Unfortunately, it's all lesbians being payed off by the UN to turn my city into literally a shit hole. So you can take that and pack it in your ass.
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>>79752008
>Antiquated
>Its a train
>Exploited by terrorists and illegals easily to move freely around US
>Its a train, come on now the only train you should be on is the "Trump train"
>Can't stand taking public transportation, sitting next to the homeless guy for 10 minutes. Now ill have to sit next to him for my 18 hour ride from DC to Cali
>Its a train, come on take a plane
>You think airport security is a bitch, a train is a terrorists dream. A high speed bomb
>Its a train
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It will get corupted like the non existant Cali hi seed rail. How many billions have already been blown on that project?
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High Speed Nigger Delivery
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>>79752008
>US High Speed rail
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I'd rather fly if its a more than 6 hour car drive. That would waste so much fucking money. I don't understand why libtards have such a hard on for high speed rail.
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>>79752008
Hoboing: Jackass Edition, when?
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>>79752444
this
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I like this idea, but how come every time I see it brought up people discuss it as if it would inevitably be some kind of taxpayer funded public works project? A private corporation could easily do this and I'd be willing to bet it would work out great and people would love it. As a government project it would be ridiculously inefficient. Is there any practical reason why a private company couldn't do this in the US?
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>>79752008
I'd like to see a high-speed railway in my state, NY, but the government's a farce and the mafia skims taxpayer money from the budget
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>>79752008
Houston to Dallas is getting high speed rail, and it's thanks to private investors.
High speed rail is great when the government isn't in charge of where it goes.
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>>79754181
Acquiring the land
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Start here in Texas. Build wall with same tech + Auto guns. Get these fucking semi trucks off the road.
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I don't really care I have pretty convenient train routes in my city. I just wish light rail could be expanded and bus systems were actually vaguely competent
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>>79753057
yeah like $300 ish across the country, takes 5 hours too so a huge rail system would be a waste.

>>79752008
it would be nice but not very useful. better to have one rail system on the west coast, one on the east coast, and a smaller one on the gulf coast.
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>>79753057

yes.
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>>79752008
>Charlotte in the completely wrong side of the state
Nice one
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>>79754181
Warren Buffet privately bought up the railroads. You know what he did with them?

He loaded the fracking waste water onto tanker cars and let them sit on the rail until according to the regulations he could dump it back into the ground without it being hazardous.

Thanks, Buffet Jew.
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>>79752008
Pic related are the only two lines that could exit profitably and the only two profitable. And the west coast is debated. It's an 18 hour drive LA to Seattle or a 2 hour flight.

A train doesn't make sense. Most people have cars, or could at least rent one and plane tickets aren't that bad.
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Does Florida really need 3? Seriously who goes to Florida on purpose?
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>>79753290
Why are flyovers always so angry
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>>79752008
Just the East Coast ones, because Metro and Amtrack are some shit. I can't be bothered to care about the rest of the country.
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Build it.

t. Architectural Engineer driving between Houston, Austin, and Dallas all the fucking time, including right now while typing this coming back to ATX.
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>>79752008
>Goes through savannah georgia
What the fuck for, that place is a shithole with no appeal whatsever
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>>79754375
Florida is rife with NY Jews. So I have no idea.
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>>79752008
thats retarded because new orleans and baton rouge do not line up like that at fucking all.

Actually none of the cities fucking line up like that.

that map is about as accurate as a afro-centric beliefs.
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>>79752008
No, it's fucking stupid.

Only about 10% of Americans live in the 100 largest cities in the United States. You'd need a fucking ridiculously elaborate HSR network to service those major population centers, travel times wouldn't be dramatically improved over direct flight-times (especially for routes that would need to go around major mountain ranges), and ultimately it would be spending trillions of dollars to benefit only about 1-in-10 Americans.


Ex. My family lives in Davenport, IA. I go to school at Auburn, AL. If I want to take the HSR described in the OP's pic home, I need to
1) Drive two hours to Atlanta
2) Spend an hour or two getting through the HSR security (because of course there will be security)
3) Ride the HSR from Atlanta to Chicago, about 6 hours.
4) Drive three hours from Chicago to Davenport

That's 13 hours assuming no delays. I can drive it in 14, with the added bonus of leaving when I want, stopping when I want, eating where I want, etc.
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>>79752267
>what are planes

>>79752008
God no. It would be a field day for bureaucrats taking a cut off the top.
Also literally no one needs it except maybe commiefornia but they're loosing people already.
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>>79752008
Yes, but there will need to be more lines than that in the southeast.
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>>79754181

No private company would do it because it'd lose money. Plus for the network in op's pic it'd be impossibly expensive to purchase all the land and materials and to keep it maintained. It would be the most expensive thing in this countries history. would probably cost more than the highway system.
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>>79754181
>Is there any practical reason why a private company couldn't do this in the US?
Because planes exist.
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>>79752008
>Charleston SC gets noticed

thank you
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>>79754091
>I don't understand why libtards have such a hard on for high speed rail.
>>79752871
>Never really understood liberals and their hard-on for trains in the 21st century

It's more efficient in terms of fuel burned per passenger-mile. Thing is, most passengers don't care about that, they care about getting to their destination quickly, conveniently, or cheaply, or some combination of these. Greenery isn't a consideration for most. This divergence between what people want and what liberals think they should want is behind a lot of such projects. It's also why liberals hate highways and suburbs, for instance.
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>>79754454
Is close. They had nigger in Louisiana fill in their section. Safest and fastest would be strait through don't stop.
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Don't want spics and niggers to have high speed access to my state, not supporting that shit. The only thing saving most of the country is cost of travel distance to the surviving white states.
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>>79754561
>the most expensive thing
Meanwhile, the local freight rail was renovated almost monthly for a few years back when the Federal Jew had to pump money into "infrastructure" programs while all the while rail traffic was going into the shitter.

gg faggots.
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>>79754627
althought they won't be able to build a rail service underground due to our sea level, and they wont be allowed to do it above ground so...
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>>79754209
former NYer here.
It's true NY is corrupt as fuck. Used to drive by JFK all the time and some of the simple road construction there has been going on continuously for 30+ years. Literally a Sopranos no-show.

Still, I wouldn't shake the boat too much. I've seen the other side of the coin.
In CA the police and agencies are not as corrupt, but they're mean as fuck. Would rather deal with a fat, content NY cop any day.
And removing mafia style corruption only allows SJW style corruption to dominate. The places where it dominates in NY are the places where the Mafia was rooted out (Manhattan).
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>>79752267
No, we have an interstate system.
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>>79754668
its a shit map. New orleans and houston are roughly in line, and baton rouge is is 80-90 miles north of the actual city of new orleans.
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>>79754403
Because you stupid fuckers expect us to give you money for retarded reasons.

Fuck off and buy your own god damn rail system if you want it so badly. I don't owe you shit.

Pic related is you, faggot.
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>>79754361
There's so many stops along the coast that a car would be more feasible. Not stopping? Take a plane. Save more money in the long run.
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>>79752397
not if people actually use it
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>>79752008
>trains
Is it the 1930s again and no one told me?
Fucking one step up from the Greyhound. Barely.
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>Mexicans can now spread faster

No thank u
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>>79752008
The east coast line should really stop in Raleigh. Taking it down to Atlanta is a huge waste of money because the cities are so far apart and a plane ticked between Raleigh, Charlotte, and Atlanta isn't that expensive.
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>>79752444

You can get high speed rail across Germany, the UK and France. AKA between the places that matter.

Even Russia (twice as big the USA) has high speed rail.
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>>79752008
Trains are objectively the comfiest way to travel, if you have a solid network
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>>79754931
I'm from LI originally and something like the LIRR is actually useful. I'm not up on the profitability, but it's really fucking convenient and useful, as is the NY subway system.

But that's like if you were to stuff all of your country into one small part of ours. You know what else would be nice? All the unused freight rail running along the Island so we didn't all have to sit it wretched traffic because some asshole jew moron thought if they restricted the roadways then there would be less traffic.

But oh no. Now those fucking jew bastards need all that traffic to drive the tourist economy and build more retarded box stores to give our jobs and money away to the chinese. FUNNY ISN'T IT.
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>>79752267
In the us we don't get hiked gas prices and super high registration/licensing fees so we actually get to drive cars here
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>>79754959
Enjoy getting fucked by China
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>>79752008
low density means rail service is not practical for much of the usa
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>>79752008
No poor people need to stay in poor people areas.
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>>79754931
the fastest train in the world has an average speed of 251 km/h and cost 1.3 billion USD for 30 kilometres of track
distance from LA to New York is 4490 km
it would take almost 18 hours
it only takes 6 on a plane
it would cost about 195 billion
airports already exist

it's a stupid idea, goddamn Europeans and their train boners
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>>79755460
High speed rail for east and west coast only
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>>79755050
It's just one hour more to go Atlanta -> Raleigh by blue/cyan anyway

This seems like traveling salesman problem anyway.
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>skips right over scranton

ayy lmao
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>>79755514
Poor people in the US can afford to fly economy with a layover. I live by a small int airport (RDU) and can easily get a ticket to LAX for less than $100
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Hsr competes with airlines.
It costs me less to take the train to haneda airport and take a flight to Osaka than it does taking the shinkansen. So you know 75 dollars vs 150 dollars.
And that's a distance of 500km. Here in the us I can fly from Evansville, indiana to orlando-sanford for 75 dollars. That's over 1000 miles. Think of that. Not to mention hsr maintenance is fucking silly. In Japan they replace over 30 miles of overhead line every night. Do you think government agencies are capable of that? We don't even have real hsr here.
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>>79753011
This.

A fucking train ticket to NYC is more expensive than a flight to Florida from DC. High speed rail is a meme, commuter/regional transit like the LIR would probably work best to get traffic congestion out of the suburbs.
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>>79754504
And before the line is even finished you will probably be able to

>schedule convenient pick-up from your phone
>walk out your door and into self-driving van taxi
>comfy cabin is outfitted with a bed, a desk, wifi, mini-bar
>robo-chauffeur whisks you onto the dedicated 120 mph lane on the freeway
>stops for meals on demand
>drops you at your parents' door first thing in the morning
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>>79752008
We have commercial airlines. Much faster even with tsa lines and such. And much cheaper and efficient if you know how to shop. A savy buyer can get NYC to lax for under a hundred bucks a passenger and get there in a third the time of a highspeed rail and a tenth that of regular rail , bus or car
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>>79754825
Maybe a flat Earth made it. That's common communist core science right?
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>>79755603
Raleigh -> Charlotte
Raleigh -> Atlanta
Raleigh -> Charlotte -> Atlanta

All of the above are around 30 minute trips by plane and the tickets are super cheap despite being hundred of miles apart.

Raleigh -> Richmond
Raleigh -> DC

Those trips would warrant rail given how expensive the tickets are and how close each metro area is.
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>>79755781
It's for this reason I support the deprivation of personal private property ownership known as stupid, illegal phone car and house sublet things.

Meanwhile, every single damn time I drive my actual car through a city, everybody's hanging off my nuts because they can chuck all their shit in the back and get it transported for free at any time of day without paying for shit. Mass transportists can check their pivs by sucking the nearest log out of a nigger's asshole, and then waiting for a train and paying $300 bux for a shitskin taxi.
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>>79755594
Sure, go nuts... just don't demand that the rest of us help pay for it.
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>>79752008
That's not where Allentown is, It's closer to Philadelphia that's more like Scranton, how did the map maker fuck that up so bad?
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If the government can't even make Amtrak work efficiently i don't think high speed rail would ever be feasible
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>>79754906
>reread my previous post
what the fuck
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>>79752008

self-driving cars will make rail travel obsolete.
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>>79756526
Self-driving cars as shit. I'm going to door you on purpose next time I see you, faggot.
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>>79752008
Okay OP I fixed it, the rest aren't needed aircraft do long distance travel better.
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>>79756055
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>>79752008
>The Denver to Green River section

Good luck.
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>>79752008
You want it? You pay for it.
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>>79752008
I remember when Obama promised us high-speed rail and the jobs that it would create.

Thanks.
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>having to go through shitcago
I was considering taking a non-high speed train trip and this is exactly the reason I decided to fly instead
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>>79754361
How about a train traveling 350km/h max and averaging, say, 250km/h? If you don't live right next to a major airport, that's probably faster or not that much slower than a plane.

Say you wanna go from Seattle to LA. That's 1800km if memory serves me right. Let's call it 8h total travel. Flight is 2.5h. Add to that 1h getting to the airport. 1.5h security check/get to plane. Get from airport outside the city to your destination in LA for another hour. That's 6h min. Now if if you don't live next to the airport, you might need more time to get there. If you're in the middle between Seattle and LA, the train is definitely the better option. Comfy af, no lengthy security checks.
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>>79756627

LA to SanFran is continuous earthquake fault zones that make high-speed rail dangerous and costly. You don't want to be on a high-speed train when the track gets bumped 1-1/2" out of alignment.
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>>79752267
No. We prefer air travel. We have about as many airliners in the air over the US as the rest of the world combined at any given moment. I live in a small city in the middle of nowhere and we have about a dozen jets fly in and out of our airport daily.

Train and bus service in America rapidly became unpopular after Rosa Parks when niggers were allowed to sit their black asses down anywhere they pleased. Planes are more expensive and more complicated to schedule so while the black plague is present it's generally not in scary numbers on planes compared to ground transportation.
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>>79752961
This, white people fly
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>>79756055
U wot m8
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>>79753028
Good luck with that buddy
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>>79756993
Japan has the same problem and it is not an issue they have seismometers rigged to the rail system that automatically trigger the breaks.
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>>79752008
If the market wanted it, we would already have it.
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>>79755460
man just googled the population density of the US states.

nebraska, montana, wyoming or kansas. all low pop.

which state would be best to live a detached life?
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>>79756827
Nigger almost every flight has a layover at O'Hare. Get over it.
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>>79756874
>Comfy af

yeah, no
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>>79752008
Trains going that fast are going to obliterate wildlife and hobos, going through such long stretches of rural areas
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>>79752008
it connects into canada. so no, i don't like the concept.
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>>79757001
>the black plague

southerner detected
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>>79752008
I fucking wish.
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>>79754504
>Davenport, Iowa

Greetings from Moline you faggot.
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>>79757460
Alaska probably
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>>79756874
>If you don't live right next to a major airport
>1 hour getting to airport
Like everyone lives right next to a major rail hub? Still going to have a major drive to get to a rail station.
>1.5h security check/get to plane
>no lengthy security checks
Similar security procedures would get created, resulting in the same wait times.
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>>79752008
Gas guzzlin' trucks work just fine. Don't need no European commie trains.
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>>79757460
>which state would be best to live a detached life?
>detached

most /pol/acks seem to prefer wyoming or northern idaho
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>>79754748
All I want is for the mafia to gtfo of government and labor unions and back into the streets where they belong; then 80% of our problems would go away
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>>79757547
That's what happens when you have literal 3rd world infrastructure
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>>79752671
Are you retarded? Have you heard of Amtrak?
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>>79754508
This. Local, state and federal politicians would have a field day skimming money. They'd push through any routes where they'd make the most, basically approve what will line their pockets best, and it would not be efficient because of this in the end.

Just say no.
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>>79752008
Whoever made this needs to look at a real map
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>>79757933
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>>79752008
>running into canada
>running into mexico
no.

It also has to be cheaper than air travel since airplanes are faster and safer.
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>>79757547
Yeah and your plane can crash. Both happens extremely rarely. There is nothing comfier than a train. You sit down, have plenty of space, internet, faster than a car and comparable to a plane for distances of up to 1000km in Europe. Since the US is not so densely populated, you can have less stops, a higher average speed and even faster traveling!
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Just don't let Amtrak do it.
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>>79758063
>a real map
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I'm too poor to own a car in my state, so this would be a GODSEND

I'll think you'll see more backing for mass public transportation the more boomers die off and their kids and grandkids are left without cash and resources.
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>>79755265
You know why the LIRR works? You can take the train into Manhattan and not have to ride NYC mass transit subway system which are full of homeless people who like to poo and piss everywhere. The bums don't set up shop on the LIRR, they avoid it. A lot of people moved out of the 5 boroughs who work in Manhattan to take the LIRR in and not deal with the actual feces and shit smell.
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>>79755460
If you unfocus your eyes slightly you can see the major interstate highways on that map.
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>>79752267
How many times does France fit in the continental USA?
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>>79757933
>Montana
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we can't even get decent internet infrastructure due to monopolies bribing local governments and preventing the free market from working.

i doubt we could get decent trains.

and we don't need them anyway. americans love our trucks and cars. we love to drive.

and planes are much faster than trains if you want to go somewhere farther away.
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>>79757870
>Like everyone lives right next to a major rail hub?

In Europe, yes. There is a train station in every city and village and the bullet trains (German ones up to 320kmh, French ones up to 350kmh) stop pretty much everywhere. If you were to create a high speed railway from scratch, you'd have to create a few railstations too, I suppose.
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It would be pretty boss if I could take a train going 400mph in a straight line with no stops from NYC to Miami for around $50. The trip would be less than 4 hours
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I think a high speed train from D.C. to Boston with stops in Philly and NYC would be good.
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We'll need Rearden steel for that
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>>79752008
No.

NO.
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>>79752008
Not really, at least not for passengers.
Maybe cargo.
Planes already do a good job for long-haul transportation.
Self-driving cars are going to revolutionize short-haul.
I just don't see a need for it at the moment/
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>>79752008
riding a train through murkia would be comfy as fuck
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>>79758232
>I'll think you'll see more HITCHHIKING the more boomers die off and their kids and grandkids are left without cash and resources.

FTFY
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>>79758356
It's a horror story, but at least you know you can
>WOINDANCH!
for like $5 or whatever as long as you're willing to pretend to not notice

Especially if you're not on that crazy train anymore.
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>>79756827

t. Cletus
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>>79758403
>How many times does France fit in the continental USA?
The US has a total area of about 9, 826,675 square kilometers, France has about 674,843 square kilometers. Dividing the US's by France's give you a quotient of about 14.56
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>>79758176
I wouldn't trust a German trying to get you on a train.
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>>79752008
They attempted to make a light rail system here in WI a few years ago, thankfully, it was shot down.

The subsidization costs were FUCKING HUGE, with taxpayers having to pay for around $200 of each $235 ticked that was proposed for pricing from Milwaukee to Madison (about 80 minutes' drive in decent traffic), turning it into a total shitpile financially since the cost to build it was going to be near the billion dollar mark already.

The kicker? They were going to bring in primarily Spanish workers for the project instead of local companies, and it was expected to have fewer than 25 permanent jobs created that would be left for locals to take up once the project was done.

That's some major shit-in-the-mouth stuff on a small scale - now, take that nationally, and imagine the multi-trillion dollar nightmare it would be.

Problem is with these projects, once they begin, they never stop. They need to be stopped in their tracks once proposed.
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>>79758592
>NY to LA
>leave city, endless trees and more trees
>reach widwest, corn and wheat for hours
>reach the rockies, plains get sparser vegetation, and then a dark tunnel for hours
>leave tunnel, arrive in LA

wow so exciting
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>>79753417
This.

Every fucking railroad scheme that the United States government has implemented, from the Transcontinental Railroad all the way to Portland's Tri-Met light rail network, has been a fucking disaster. Leftists proclaim "DUDE IT WILL PAY FOR ITSELF LMAO" and every fucking time expenses are dramatically hire, usage is dramatically lower, and quality is generally shit-tier (you know, despite the massive costs).

There's a very good reason why no company wants to privately build these things, it's because they've calculated it themselves and realize that it's fucking retarded.
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>>79752008

Hyper loop is a better idea. Putin wants it, why not us?
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>>79758794
Florida. Every time.
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>>79758794
Shoutouts to based Arizona, Colorado, Florida, New Jersey, and South Carolina.
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>>79752008
Train is the best way to travel.

tuca tuca tuca tuca toot toot!
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>>79752008
It was almost a thing back in the 30s, pity ford and gm ruined it, like everything else they touch.
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>>79758592
no it wouldnt, because the only people who would ride them would be hipster faggots, because all self respecting people ride cars
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>>79757460
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>>79752008
Where are these three going?
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The yellow line looks like it follows the BEST Rail that Trump proposed.
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poor people take greyhound (bus)
rich people take planes or cars

trains take forever and require you to rent a car when you get to your destination anyway so you might as well take your car.
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>>79759187
BLAAAAAAAAAAAT!

[chuga chuga chuga chuga]

BLAAAAAAAAAAAT!

[chugga chugga chugga chuggaa]

BLAAAAAT BLAAAAAAAAT!

[huffachugga chugga chugga]

>national horn sign for a road crossing
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>>79759547

they have to go back
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>>79759547
Mexico, obviously.

High Speed Migrant Importation System
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>>79752008
The current Amtrak system looks like this, doesn't it?
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>>79759547
>stations at the three biggest crossing point for illegals
this is obviously the plan once the NAU is formed
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>>79758521
>in Europe
Well it's a good thing we're talking about the US, you clod
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Trains are overrated. Going from Zurich to Split via train took fucking FOREVER, whereas it was only like 30 mins via plane.
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Only works in a Libertarian paradise because they don't have roads.
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>>79755132
The Trans-Siberian ain't High Speed bud.
Train Expert reporting
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>>79759678
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiishsssThuchPohPhssssssssssss
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>>79757001
Too bad air travel in America sucks as well.
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>>79752008
>>79752487
It should center in Indianapolis, to really make us the Crossroads of America.
And we should fix up our canals.
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>>79760612
That's what the airbrakes on our trucks are like, but I prefer the jake brakes
>JAH JAH JAH JAH JAH JAH JAH JAH
>PPFTFFTPTPPTPFMTMTJMT
>BOT BOT BOT BOT
>PSSSH
>*squeak*

I don't think our trains make that noise since back when they were steam powered.

But it's always funny to see a sign that says no fury brakes because it's a nice area
>it's not a nice area
>it's a fucking truck route
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>>79760739
that's entirely due to pointless security theater.

which is a problem with air travel throughout the first world
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>/pol/ likes trains
>autismos like trains
What a coincidence
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Light rail in regions and cities is useful.

High speed rail in the US isn't feasible, cost-effective or necessary.
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>>79759964
Amtrak is expensive as shit desu

Flights actually are cheaper and waaaaaay quicker
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>>79760746
Indianapolis is the most why tho Cory in the us desu
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>>79752733
A bunch of rich Mexicans come into America to do shopping (retail is the only thing driving the economy in that part of Texas other than agriculture). It would be good for the economy if they could travel further into the U.S. to spend money.
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>>79752008
>That image
>Implying a high speed rail would stop in Port St. Lucie
It wouldn't. There's fucking nothing worth stopping for here. All the big research firms are basically gone. This map must've been drawn up by someone that never realized the housing bubble burst, and burst hard here.
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>>79752008

I dislike the thought of cheap travel for niggers. Hyperspeed nigs get out of Detroit, fuck up a town, go back on hyperspeed travel.
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It takes three days to cross the country by train.
I went from Baltimore - DC - Chicago - LA
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>>79762005
And its stupid expensive...
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>>79752008
you can only have one

>HSR
>The Wall
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>>79752008
No way, sounds like too many bad things could happen. Might as well fly or drive at that rate. Plus that doesn't account for it probably being filthy, full of crime, increasing taxes, screwing the environment up, etc.
This reminds me of the monorail episode in the Simpsons.
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>>79762070
It's not just expensive, it's inconvenient.

One time I was all set to get a train ticket with a sleepy bed and wifi and everything, but it just wasn't running when I wanted, and it would have taken half again as much time as the trip to travel to and from the train stations.
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>>79761686
>Indianapolis is the most why tho Cory in the us desu
What?
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>>79754504
You're only counting city population, but ignoring the massive metro population. San Francisco only has 800000 people, but the metro area is like 6,000,000 people. The New York and Los Angeles metropolitan areas alone are over 30,000,000 people.
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>>79762070
IT wasn't that much more than a flight
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>>79753173

>America is going to stay the way it is
>Planning for the future is bad
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>>79755460
>>79752008
The only places that need this are California and DC/NY. And they already have their own transit systems. So this is worthless.
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>>79762387
BBW
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>>79758396
Thanks Captain obvious
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>>79752008
>Rail way from Des Moines to Chicago, and from Chicago to pretty much anywhere.

For me personally, I would be able to visit friends on both coasts much, much easier. Still don't know if it would be worth the expense though.
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>>79752733
And Alaska
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>Nothing in the entire north west except along the coast
You know we have the biggest and most productive train engine diesel repair workshops in the country right?
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>>79752008
No, you arrogant urban piece of shit. Go die in a nuclear fire with the rest of you 17th Amendment leaches.
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Let's start with the high speed between Houston and Dallas/Fort Worth and see how that goes. Clean up the I-45 and airport traffic.
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>>79752267
It's almost as if the size of america dwarfs all of europe like wtf!!
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>>79755132
urbanfag detected
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>>79763341
Don't believe the lies.

I can hop across a number of things for a number of hundred mies, but the endpoint is some godforasken zone where I'll be reliant on my family to come pick me up through traffic when I want to see them unless I pay even more monies for a ride.
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>>79752008
I'm in if Oklahoma City actually gets a stop. Flying is such a pain in the ass.
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>>79758519
>tfw live in a small town in washington with a population of 7000 and still get 29.1 mbps

Gotta love washington
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>>79763707
How is that different from flying though?
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>>79763633
wtf is happening in this webm
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>>79763993
Not a whole lot different other than that I don't have to show up early to get my junk handled.

It's kind of why I don't usually fly.
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>>79758070
>Allamakee County Iowa
Yep, there are a ton of Jews there but they all live in Postville.
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>>79752008
>Using Eurotransit

Don't it's gay
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>>79753011
Not totally true, BART is a lightrail system that services most of the San fransisco Bay Area which consists of a bunch of different cities
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This shit is why urbanfags must die. They don't create wealth(urban areas are resource sinks) yet they demand that 100% of the rest of the country pay for a rail service that would only serve their geographic >1% of the country.

Why the FUCK am I supposed to give MY money to some Jews, Catholics, and foreigners so that they can more effectively link their urban shitholes together in order to coordinate even more schemes of domination and subjugation of the remaining 99+% of this country?


How about this: High speed rail MUST stop in EVERY town. Yeah, it becomes too inconvenient if you tried that.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/magazine/postville-iowa-is-up-for-grabs.html?_r=0
>Typical day in Postville
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>>79764667
If we consider NYC for a single example, the express train is best train as long as you're willing to wait 4 hours for it to show up in the first place. And that's if they're not doing construction and you don't get stuck in a dark tunnel without the A/C all night.

But just think of it. You were there all night, safe and sound, so yo should have gotten the best night's sleep you've had in a long time! Please try to understand mass transit before you use your hatespeech.
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>>79758070
used to live in montgomery county, MD. We substituted presidents day and other federal holidays for rosh hashanah and other jewish things.
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High Speed Rail is a necessity. Crs are the worst thing to ever happen to American Society and to own one you should get the everloving fuck taxed out of you
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>>79764667

>catholics

Kill yourself, protestcuck.
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>>79752008
>>79752733
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNixDlRoMvA
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>>79752911
>>79753290
I saw this map and the Metro 2033 theme song started playing in my head. Guess I know what I'm doing later tonight.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3eeOPm2j-t4
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>>79765097
1) Nice try, liberal, with the accusation of hate speech you fucking faggot.
2) We're not all urbanfaggots like you and your selfishness comes at OUR expense
3) Either link every town in America or fuck off.

This isn't about convenience or safety, its about fucking over rural and suburban America you piece of shit.

>>79765373
Back to Mexico
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>>79765125
Silver Spring has the 3rd largest population of Jews in the United States. Only New York City and Miami have more.
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>>79752008
Any so-called "solution" that doesn't involve Wyoming is doomed to failure and will not get my support.
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>>79765782
>Back to Mexico

I'd rather Mexico than a nation filled with protestants. Literal african niggers are better than protestants.
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>>79765782

Democratic country faggot, and most Americans live in cities. Not go fuck your cousin and do some meth cleetus
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>>79765943
Fucking retarded catholicuck
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>>79753013
>We are VERY far behind in transportation.

Easily solved with a few shovel-ready highway projects.
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>>79766119

I'm Oriental Orthodox but Catholics at least have most of the right theology. Protestantism is a gigantic joke that's gone on for far too long. Its time for you all to go into the ovens.
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>>79765782
Fuck you, Robespierre, you have been my enemy for years and you've never lived anywhere near the places I've lived.

You can go take a green scrubby to your face when you're done scrubbing your dick off. And when you're ready to leave the urban jew you can come to the True America like the rest of us and maybe have something vaguely productive account for in your life.
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>>79765795
luckily they don't shit where they eat, I never saw any jewish trickery
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>>79754272

Coloradofag detected.

Though you're totally right. RTD is literally short for ReTarD. The new train is super unsafe.
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>>79758592
>Not driving your own muscle car
>being confined to a few paths as opposed to driving to wherever the fuck you want
That's highly unAmerican anon
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>>79766231
>implying you shouldn't put the Word of God over man's traditions

Are you serious?
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>>79766460

>having muslim beliefs

Did God just magic that book down from heaven? No. It was written as part of tradition by the church founded by Christ. Worship of it is a recent heresy propagated by neo-muslim kikes AKA protestants.
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