Am I crazy, or is this game pushing a political agenda?
I don't know if autism can be considered a political agenda.
I'm not self-loathing enough to play faggy games like this. Can you provide a synopsis of your hypothesis?
It probably just seems that way because of all the bloggers praising it for being super progressive when the game designers were just trying to make it unique.
>>79728622
i played it
wtf i hate trump now
I pirated this game to see what the hype is about. It was fucking terrible.
>>79728622
It's pushing an agenda of being shite.
>>79728622
>lesbian relationship
>strong independent women
yeh a lil' bit
>>79728760
this, it's just reddit the game
>>79728622
I've broken my relationship with university mate who recommended me to buy this game. Pure shit.
>>79728622
The developer just wanted to do something unqiue but sjws took it up and used it too push there agenda
>>79728622
yes you are crazy. hope that helps.
>>79728795
The main mechanic is don't fight back against the enemies attacking you. You're supposed to talk to them and make friends.
>>79728981
yeah it's the kind of game /r/SandersForPresident people would love
>>79729029
Was just about to say something like this.
>>79728795
Not op but there are nonbinaries, transgenders and lesbians in it
>>79729057
That was easy. I could have saved myself a therapy bill.
>>79728795
The game has furry characters (not all), a lesbian relationship and shitty graphics.
The story is good IMO, the game does some 4th wall stuff and it is quite original in that regard.
For me it doesn't look like it pushes anything aside from a lesbian relationship between two monsters, and a homosexual one with two background characters (they don't do anything for the plot)
>>79729131
Which character is a tranny?
>>79729068
Sounds pretty fucking gay.
>>79729224
Metaton, you have to dig a little but its cannon
>>79728622
It actually isn't at all. The dude just made a fucking game. It's SJWs/tumblr trying to push an agenda.
>>79728622
It obviously does.
>>79729068
You can kill them, there's nothing stopping you. But the game will make you feel like it's wrong.
The concept had to exist at some point, every other game is the same killing to win mechanic.
No. The creator is just a faggot
>>79729199
>aside from a lesbian relationship between two monsters, and a homosexual one with two background characters (they don't do anything for the plot)
That is a lot that it is pushing.
Representation alone isn't pushing an "agenda" f a m
Undertale has lesbian and trans characters but it's not ham-fisted in pushing a tolerant agenda, they're just there like lesbian and trans people are there in real life
Pic related, Metagross is a non-binary agender Beldum-kin according to Pokemon lore but you don't hear 4chan calling him degenerate
>>79728622
It's hugbox: the game
>>79728760
fpbp
>>79728622
No but SJWs saw a lesbian anime nerd character and fucking clinged on to it like leeches.
I wonder if the game would have not had such a huge fanbase just from if the character wasn't lesbian
>>79729068
It's actually a cool unique idea, I like the idea where being a good guy means more than just pressing a different option.
Being good should be more difficult than being evil, something games always forget.
Blunderfail just did it very poorly.
> every other game is the same killing to win mechanic.
>2016
>Not playing superior truck driving simulators
>>79728622
It seems to be to detached from reality to post any real political agenda apart from "Being nice is good" if you ask me.
Everyone just live in a big kingdom below earth, with no noticeable law enforcement apart from a skeleton and a fish who likes to beat up random people.
Also, do everything this flower tells you to do.
>>79729199
>Furry characters
Are all Humanoid characters "Furry"?
>>79728622
Well you are a /pol/ poster so yes you probably have some sort of disorder that turns you into a paranoid hateful piece of shit.
Most games make use of negative reinforcement to reward play: if you don't reach a target behaviour (like not dying) you get taken out of the game (either to respawn or otherwise). A good example of negative reinforcement at its finest are the Dark Souls games, where you are rewarded for outwitting an obstacle that killed you before with your previous experience+whatever it took to get back to that point.
Undertale uses positive reinforcement, you're encouraged to dispatch enemies with nonviolent means and basicslly rewarded with the game complimenting you for playing nice. It's a simple but subtle dynamic.
There's no politics, the game is about accepting other people. It's a pretty simple message. There's a pair of romantically involved female characters, but the game does not revolve around these two and it's portrayed awkwardly for comedic effect.
It's an inoffensive, endearing game that has some parallels to the Mother games, with a similarly upbeat eerie tone. As you may have gathered, I enjoyed undertale. It was just nice to play something different.
However, many of the fans are obviously children or maladjusted, horny nerds and they really shit the bed when it came to sharing the game with other people in a relate able way. LOTS of furfaggotry and creepy sexual characterization of under 18's.
So, nice game, shitty crazy fanbase.
>>79729748
Meant to link >>79729470
>>79728622
Silly goyim, you shouldn't see conspiracies everywhere, it's just a video game!
>>79728622
The game itself doesn't, it just gives you the choice to do whatever the fuck you want and the world/characters react to this choice. Of course they won't be happy if you keep killing everyone but that's kinda part of the fun. The problem is the godawful fandom that took a simple but fun little game and turned it into some higher statement about their progressive utopia. Though you can partly blame the developer for attracting that kind of audience by putting lesbians into it and making the main character race and gender-ambigious .
>>79729628
Dude lesbians are trans are fucking uncommon, they are definitely not part of everyday life. Over representation indicates he wants to normalize those freaks
>>79729736
I can assure you that it would've. The game was out at such a perfect time - made by the co-creator of Homestuck, Homestuck was reaching its ending - honestly, this game wouldn't of been successful without the existence of the unholy blob of a fandom that is Homestuck.
>>79729003
You really can tell a lot about someone if they liked this game.
>>79729598
The trans could just as well be an normal extravagant musician if you ask me, didn't know he was tranny till I read it somewhere.
>>79729853
I would disagree with this. I've met so many lesbians that it's not even funny.
The game does have some attention to detail, including expecting people to break the code and dig deep, something that have been missing in games for a while.
But it has some bullshit sexual agenda:
2 gay couples, one lesbian and one fag, both very awkward. Isnt even good "romance", just pushed into your face.
There is a supposedly female ghost that possed a male-looking robot.
And finally 2 of the main characters, including the playable one, dont have defined sex. Other characters call him "them"
>>79728622
>all characters don´t explain sexuality orientation aside from the fish
>all characters are animals or objects or robots
>we must say what they like to stick up their asses or where they stick their skeletons cocks
the game is maybe 20% gay agenda but the delusional fans have decided that all monsters are trans-fat-muslims-gay-latino-robot-bi-demi sexuals furries.
>>79729470
>mfw I played Postal 2 without going Postal
The concept isnt new and the game looks like some Hipster shit by somebody who cant program more the copy paste.
For you, you know where to go back shill
It's threads like this that make me worry about the future.
No, I don't worry about games like Undertale.
I worry about all the people who blindly hate things like Undertale because they associate things they hate with it.
Fucking Loony Tunes wouldn't be able to come out in the modern day without everyone on the internet flipping shit about "Furry characters" and "promoting cross-dressing and homosexuality"
>>79728622
the game itself isnt, but the fanbase of the game is using the game to
>>79730097
Trying to do a sane run in postal 2 is funny. The town is fucking insane, the game isnt a mass murder simulator, it is a self defence simulator.
>>79729361
genderless ghost to male robot tranny. THINK OF THE CHILDREN
>>79729628
Not treating them weirdly or like they're different is accepting them f a m.
If you want to be impartial you don't feature them at all.
>>79730417
>It's nearly impossible to find and you literally have to break into the ghost's house to discover
>WHY DO THEY KEEP SHOVING THEIR GENDER IN MY FACE!?
>>79729068
This mechanic was straight up stolen from Shin Megami though
>>79729029
Didn't the developer work alone, with like one freelancer hired for art?
>>79729199
>and shitty graphics
anon...
There's nothing wrong with the game.
The creator even refused to answer some dumbfuck of a journalists leading question about inclusivity and representation or some such bullshit.
>>79729131
The self-insert main character not having a canon gender means that the normal player assumes that they're their gender, and the Tumblrite uses this as a method to push their "nonbinary" meme.
The game itself is not bad. Good music, different gameplay. A lot of people complain that it pushes the non-violent bit to try to make a point, but some of the best content in the game is only accessible if you kill everyone.
7/10 overall desu senpai
>>79728622
I thought it was pretty fun/interesting
a load of SJWs hijacked it for their agenda or someshit but
it's kinda cool
>>79728622
How is it pushing an agenda?
>>79728622
It's like steven universe, it focuses on being a good product first, then sprinklle themes in the background.
>Undertale has better boss themes than Dark Souls 2 and 3 in general
Fucking Miyazaki
>>79729894
>made by the co-creator of Homestuck
Holy shit, people think Toby Fox made Homestuck now.
At least that's better than people thinking Octopimp did.
>>79729748
They also need to realize that people aren't evil for being evil's sake. I really hate this virgin-sacrificing, blood-drinking D&D trope. "Evil" just means a somewhat arbitrary boundary where the end no longer justifies the means. Most people we think of as evil never realized they crossed that boundary.
And that's exactly why the concept of evil is laughably incompatible with this binary, option-selecting video game approach. The moment someone decided that they'd boil down complex morality, they did a disservice to video games as a form of expression. I've always preferred games that simply gave a choice between possible courses of action, and the results from those. You take the action that YOU consider the most appropriate to the situation, and you contemplate whether it's the right choice or not based on the morality of the situation itself, and not the game "ding"-ing up points against or in favour.
Of course, there should be some reaction. But that should be in context of the gameworld itself, so you can judge the morality of your actions and evaluate them, not in some menu ticking up points. And neither should it become immediately clear what was the "right" choice.
>>79730190
also this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDdR4c9vcEw
read comments, yryl
>>79729818
I swear, I started seeing "goat mom" porn since way before the game was even out. I always thought it was an anime character.
>>79728760
Don't be a bigot, everything can be a political agenda!
>>79728622
Oh it is, but not in the way you think.
Fans tend to believe that Undertale, specificially its monsters, are based around Irish mythology.
From there, it's safe to assume that the game more or less takes place under Ireland. Now, the intro gives you a '201x' timeframe, meaning it takes place in the modern day.
>Modern Europe
>Monsters get out in happy ending.
>Monsters migrate from Ireland across Europe.
Now, you may think that the monsters are a parelell to a certain group, but remember, our Eastern friends are coming from Africa and the like.
>Peaceful monsters will have to deal with the rapefugees.
>No happy ending because Papyrus is going to get bombed somewhere in France.
;_;
>>79730047
women are so self absorbed they all go through a "lesbian phase" I wouldn't be surprised if most of the lesbians you have met are just lying skanks doing it for attention.
If you try hard enough you'll find a political agenda in everything. Undertale is just a game. It's a game about emotions and follows hard-line story.
There really isn't anything political about the game. Toby Fox wanted to make a unique game and focused on "outside the box" themes and he did a really good job with it.
If you ignore the whole fact that Tumblr is milking the game and ignore what they say for the most part, it's a really good, simple, elegant game.
It seems pretty harmless, just a generic anti-Eye for an Eye message desu.
>>79732164
where do you find these pics?
>>79728622
Genocidal agenda? yeah.
>>79731919
This
>>79732164
We'll see how long the anti-violence message holds up.
See
>>79731772
boring simple game
braid is much better
>>79730624
>"and shitty graphics"
>anon...
I want this pixel art meme to die already.
>>79732406
Excuse me, but with my 16-bit computer displaying anything better than pixel art is impossible. Not everyone is a miilionare with one of those fancy 32-bit machines
>>79732597
how's your vacation grandpa?
>>79728622
>undermeme
>>79730144
But the loony tunes show had crossdessing.
>>79730144
Interesting. You might be right.
>>79728622
Not crazy, just retarded.
Never forget.
>>79729068
>>79729748
It wasn't even his idea. He got the idea from Shin Megami Tensei's recruiting demons system.
I've seen interviews with the dev where the interviewers asks him how he feels about the SJW aspects of the game. He always skips those questions.
Only people who can't separate fantasy from reality would fall for agendas pushed by video games, cartoons, movies, etc.
The Millenials seem to be the first generation in which the majority are incapable of this, and thus the first that can be universally driven to homicide and/or suicide by mere words.
>>79728622
have you played the game? there literally a genocide route
>>79730047
100% of those lesbians had sex with men. I guarantee that based on person experience and all verifiable famous lesbians.
They're a fucking MYTH.
>>79733388
>Not knowing that pushing agendas in entertainment is the best way to subvert a population
It's like you didn't even pass your psy-ops classes
>>79728622
Yeah- that making shitty indie games can be profitable.
>>79729748
>not playing Farm Simulatior 15
>>79730624
Yeah, I can't believe that no one in the """gaming"""" press caught onto that.
>>79733266
i like how they all have to be in the most retarded gender because that is hip and progressive
>>79731610
The longer you stare at something these days, the easier it is to see an agenda.
>>79733266
What the fuck is wrong with Chun Lee in the bottom right corner? Is someone eating her out?
>>79731772
>201X
>Talking to demons
>Dungeon crawler- RPG
>Characters based off mythology
The game is SMT for kids.
>>79729818
Pretty much this.
>>79732230
I found it on /aco/ even though 4 toes I still cum buckets ;/
>>79728622
My little brother played that game and now he's a Hillary supporter. Never trust Tumblr indie games, they'll fuck you up.
