>Marvel makes Trump the villain of a "Captain African-American" comic
>No thread
>Gets beaten by a nigger woman who calls herself Captain America
Why are Marvel such cucks?
>>79633553
>Reading the ink jew
I don't want to say it, but come on, it is 2016. Marvel comics are literally tumblr right now. There is capeshit on cinemas if you want your mensual dose of cartoon characters.
>owned by disney
>disney run by kike
/pol/ is always right.
>>79633553
>Be over 17
>Still reading comics
>>79633553
>super hero comics
i would get rid off all "super heros"
all this false yoke does is undermine real heros
>captain america is a black woman now
what? when did that happen? I thought they turned him into a nazi
It is pretty funny though
>>79634057
hitler was a fucking kike loving libcuck
How much time left you guys give Marvel comics before they go bankrupt? I give them 3 years if they don't fire all of these idiots.
>>79633553
>Caring about a dead medium.
Movies are the future of superheroes.
Let the SJW maggots infest the rotten corpse of the comic industry.
someone post the redface guy saying reasonable things that we can all agree with
>>79634502
I thought he was just a nigger. Maybe it's some alternate universe or one shot
>>79634640
good goy
>>79633553
DC masterrace here.
do marvelfag have any good titles left
>>79633553
Superhero comics are made by jews originally
>>79633881
>Walt Disney hated Jews
>His company ends up run by Jews
wew
>>79635706
>>79637935
For white audiences, so they had to appeal to white values.
Now that society is niggerized, the kikes - eg the smarter kind of nigger - are free to air their true, repugnant beliefs.
>>79633553
Comics are for nerds, who the fuck cares?
>>79633553
When liefeld, McFarlane and lee left to start their own comic brand, I knew marvel would become shit. Just never realized how cucked they got. Disney made it worse.
Hoverboy comeback when?
Drawfag here
We should make a counter comic
Trump is Captain America who has to defeat the Clinton as Norman Osbourne (Iron Patriot).
>>79633553
Marvel has always been shit
>>79637935
Some jews aren't interested in the zionist conspiracy though. Jack Kirby was a very patriotic man and Captain America was a figure who promoted positive American values. Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster's Superman is a literal alien who determined that "the American way of life" is one of the three things he'll fight for.
Comics have always been propaganda, but they used to celebrate America, now they demonize it.
>>79638596
>Hitler was right
I'd sure love to see that Captain America comic, where the Captain takes the red pill and joins Hydra.
>>79638596
>Wrong side of every war
>says a man who fought in WWII
Ironing
>>79633553
Mass Entertainment is almost always "in the tank" for the establishment.
The establishment believes that the Clintons will help their enslavement scheme along more smoothly than Trump will. So they give hints and outright directives to media companies that, "If they want to work in this business, they will promote what they are told to promote."
This comic is one example.
Want justice? Expose the Money Printers who write all the checks at the top.
>>79633553
Just about every Marvel villian is turning into Trump. They're strawmanning him so hard it hurts.
Also there's some missing marvel comics in this compilation as well.
>>79638465
>Hoverboy
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hoverboy-The-Republican-Super-Hero-2008-1-FN-/361590455502?hash=item5430787cce:g:IsMAAOSwOVpXWiBD
apparently there are some modern comics
>>79639007
>>79633553
> implying anybody actually reads comics in current year
Literally nobody reads this shit.
>>79638796
>Le good guys bad guys maymay
Kys
>>79633553
>look up
>It's real
holy shit lmao
>>79637935
>>79638284
Wrong, wrong, and wrong.
Steve Ditko wasn't Jewish.
Is there any capecomic besides Watchmen that actually bothers to have a clear story and ending?
>Capeshit
>>79634640
>kikeloving
>hitler
Oh I'm loving
>>79639380
Yes, lots, are you stupid?
>Dark Knight Returns
>Daredevil Born Again
>Sin City
>300
>Ronin
>>79633553
>Marvel comics
Their comics have been going downhill for years. Wait until the shekels from the movie business dries up then they will realize how hard they fucked up
>>79633553
>>79639028
Is Red Skull unironically being portrayed as the villain here? I know that the Hydra arc was supposedly pretty crazy, but I keep seeing these panels. Are they saying Red Skull is right here? Or that this way of thinking is inherently wrong? Serious question.
Because obviously he's right here....
>>79639634
Thanks, will read.
>Dark Knight Returns
>Daredevil Born Again
These sound like sidestories/alternate stories for the immortal capecomics
They want to sell their comics, its just business. Would you rather to sell for millions of redditors/tumlristas or sell for the 100 people who access /pol every month? Its business.
>>79639741
> Captain Cringe
Holy shit, is this written by teenagers?
LOL
>>79639741
God that art is so shit.
>>79639741
>it's a contradiction I'll have to live with
Do the writers even READ their shit?
>>79638198
Holy fuck I never saw this part. Why are the Jews outing themselves?
>>79639892
Marvel is saying this kind of thinking is DANGEROUS, only an evil NAZI will even think such EVIL thoughts.
>>79639966
The funny thing is that Marvel's comic book sales has been on a downwards spiral when they started to do all this social justice bullshit. DC on the other hand has been slowly rising because they opted out of putting politics into comic books and to focus on actually writing timeless good stories.
>>79639939
No, the Dark Knight Returns is a one-off and doesn't take place in the main run.
He kills the Joker in it.
>>79640040
they're too busy being "Politically Correct" to care.
>>79633553
>Praktischer Idealismus
I swear /pol/ is fucking retarded.
Reminder that Marvel CEO donated to Trump's charity event
http://variety.com/2016/biz/news/marvel-trump-ike-perlmutter-donation-1201692438/
>>79639974
I think snake dude is defending his argument pretty well at least.
>>79637802
>FUCKING OLD WHITE MAN BTFO
Why the fuck is a villain the mouthpiece for SJW nonsense? I thought they were pretending to be the good guys.
>>79633553
(((Stan Lee)))
(((Stanley Martin Lieber)))
>>79639994
>Perry Bible Fellowship
I knew it was too funny to be capeshit.
>>79639939
In fact, Dark Knight Returns was animated successfully into a two part UNRATED movie, and was really good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Pa-Ff-NXA
>>79637902
Punisher is still okay.
>>79639966
Redditors and tumblristas don't actually buy comic books, though, much like feminists who complain about video games don't actually play video games. There have been articles bitching about how these new grrl-power comics are flopping hard because nobody buys them.
>>79637802
Doom is a Gary Stu and a literal cuckold. /co/mblr goes nuts over him for some reason.
>>79638056
> Walt Disney hated Jews
> meme made up by Jews so they could steal his company as "reparations".
>>79638596
So he really was a Hydra agent all along?
There is no creativity or entertainment left in any medium. They are all used as blatant platforms for cultural Marxism propaganda.
>>79637902
DC isn't safe either
>Muh feelingz
>>79641455
DC is warner brothers, what do you expect.
>>79641486
>he reads comic books
what are you children?
>>79641455
>It can't stop mansplaining
At least I can rest easy knowing that spell check STILL thinks that's not a real word.
>>79641455
>it compels truth
>truth is mansplaining
Grade A retard logic
>>79641455
yeah i never said DC was free from SJWs but far from as cucked as marvel is
Comics were always written by Liberal Jews but at least they understood their fanbase and gave kids what they wanted
Violent power fantasies for adolescent males.
Comics have been cucked completely. The actual grew up also gave up and they found a new target audience.
![yellow_batman[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1sTPhtt.jpg "yellow_batman[1].jpg")
>>79641455
It's far less rampant. Virtually everything like that you will see being the result of Morrison's run.
>>79638615
Why is the immigrant a green duck?
>>79633553
>Mental
>Organism
>Designated as
>America's
>King
Dropped the ball on that one since it's clearly now Obama.
>>79633553
So this is how they portray the worst president in united states history, a liar who's every action serves to destroy America.
Then they just can't help but to paint trump as an absurd villain...
Its embarrassing really. Embarrassing and sad for Marvel.
>>79633553
why are you reading comics and not manga? are you self-hating?
>>79642002
>violent power fantasies for adolescent males
Nice meme.
>>79639892
They are, no WE are, well and truly fucked.
They honestly believe those words to be evil and corrupt.
The patriots in that comic even go as far as to SUICIDE BOMB.
PATRIOTS ARE THE TERRORISTS TO THEM.
>>79639028
god this is stupid
>>79639346
Yeah and he made a libertarian series of comics that would make Ayn Rand blush.
>>79639051
>republican
But that doesn't make any sense. He was clearly a democrat in the 1940s
>>79638198
Testify, Skull.
>>79642742
> Since the 1960s, Ditko has declined most interviews, stating that it is his work he offers readers, and not his personality.
>>79642552
I don't know what you're trying to say you autistic tripfag
>>79641455
They fired her at DC for pushing this shit.
>>79641455
>It compels truth
so everything he said is true? what?
Did they even think about this shit?
>>79642552
wich story is this?
>>79643025
That they're well written stories just like any other?
Or is anything that isn't a boring fucking slog of listening to some faggot recount his days of working at a steel mill and complaining about the inadequacies of capitalism the only form of "intellectual entertainment" your fat, virgin, faggot ass can "take seriously"?
>>79643031
based. Marvelfags on sucide watch.
>>79643350
source?
>>79634057
JJJ pls
>>79637802
>wanting the barbarians of the Middle East to have tech on par with Western society
>implying they could ever do that on their own
>>79643436
>>79643615
>>79643663
>>79637802
>tfw Vlad Tepes was right all along
>tfw he never changed his ideals
>>79643722
>>79643769
>>79643804
>>79643832
>>79643863
>>79643886
>>79643917
>>79643959
>>79644014
>>79644044
>>79643722
iis that blonde bitch gotta get enriched by blacks???
>>79644067
>>79644114
>>79633553
>try to knock Trump
>call him 'America's King'
wow they really got him
>>79644158
>>79644218
>>79639028
>>79644081
The suspense is killing us all, faggot
>>79644265
>>79644321
>>79644371
>>79644423
Nobody posted the new Captain America yet? It was all over MSNiggerBC News this morning.
>>79644483
>>79644483
i hope this literally obama rapes the girl
>>79644554
>>79644607
>>79644646
>>79643352
What did he mean by this?
>>79644484
So happy I'm not consuming American pop-culture.
>>79644675
>>79644311
I find it hilarious that Loki's presidential logo looks a lot like Ted Cruz's.
>>79644728
>>79633553
grow up
comics are for kids and losers >>>/co/
>>79644779
>>79644484
> Nobody saw the new Captain America?
> It was on MSNBC this morning
> implying that anybody other than you watches MSNBC
>>79644484
she's not the "new" cap. She's an alternate reality version.
the "new" cap is falcon. See pic related. It's their tribute to caps 75th anniversary this year.
the original/real cap has been brainwashed or mind controlled or hypnotized or fucking whatever to believe he was always a sleeper cell for hydra, aka the nazis.
>>79644697
Did they get a random tumblr """artist""" to draw this, like they did with Squirrel Girl?
>>79644812
>>79644675
booo
I was hoping that the druggy was some deranged homo rapist
is this comic ever going to get good?
>>79644697
>>79644868
>>79644923
>>79644959
>>79644994
>>79645034
>>79644779
I like how the bitch never opens her mouth. It's the best part of the comic.
>>79645067
>>79637802
>Islam's a race
>>79645099
>>79644484
It's a thin version of that baboon from the new Ghostbusters movie
>>79645156
>>79644908
I can draw better than this shit. Wait... I bet it's a woman "artist" and it's sexist to say she can't draw for shit.
>>79644842
The she-ape that is the new Captain America is also the Falcon now. And it's still being pushed by the media.
>>79644831
I watch liberal television to laugh at their bullshit. It's shilling 24/7 and I like to know what my enemies are going to say based on how much they've been programmed.
>>79645217
>>79637802
Why do western comics have so much fucking dialog? Aren't comics a visual medium?
>>79645258
Women ruin everything except dinner and fucking.
And most are still shit at those two things as well.
>>79645258
Women draw well in different styles, usually more impressionist or characters stuff. They can't do that angular realistic style well.
>>79633553
[unsollicited opinion about Israel]
>>79634640
>>79637706
>>79639595
>Hitler created state-funded abortion
>Hitler banned cigarettes
>Hitler was an obnoxious vegetarian
>Hitler encouraged public sector jobs
>Hitler expanded social welfare
>Hitler massively expanded the state
>Hitler created free daycare
>Hitler created nationalized healthcare
>Hitler implemented massive gun control
>Hitler used "muh 1%" rhetoric to take power
I find it really entertaining that right-wing nutjobs on this board see Hitler as their role model when he was a liberal fascist.
>>79645481
>>79645568
They can't do anything really well.
>>79645481
No. What's happening is that the kind of people you see who get into comics just to "change things up" or "dismantle the patriarchy" have no actual passion or talent. They have no personal, individual message to transmit through their work, they just regurgitate propaganda.
>>79645266
booring
now I am gonna post a comic about how rape solves everything.
it involves a fatass canadian priest who gets punished by horny puerto rican cops who used a street kid as bait to lure him into their clutches
>>79645705
>>79645721
You are completely correct. But women still suck at pretty much everything they attempt.
Or at least they certainly are no better than the average man at it.
>>79645481
Wrong. They eventually fuck those two things up as well. I'm not talking an occasional fluke. Eventually they will suck at both unconditionally.
>>79645705
They can't do anything *you care about* really well. In other spheres there are some great female authors.
>>79645689
> falling for le Hitler meme
Jews did this do discredit us. Nobody here looks up to Hitler except maybe the Muslims from Europe.
>>79645689
who is this jolly jelly juggalo?
>>79645829
are u ready for A Trip to Costa Rica?
>>79645880
>>79645900
Let me know what women are good at. There are a bunch of total shit female authors who everyone gets told are great simply because they have a vagina. Look at any college professor telling you that Jane Austin is important or talented. I had one feminist author tell our class that Jane Austin was more important than Mark Twain.
It's extra hilarious because Mark Twain hated Austin so much he said he wished he could dig her body up and beat it to death again with her own femur.
But anyway, women suck at everything they attempt. Female CEOs? Bankrupt everything after being hailed as heros. Female cooks? Absolute shit compared to men. What are women good at?
Getting naked is one, and the other is singing. HA HA HA. They even suck compared to male nurses and male teachers... the two things women were allowed to do for forever since they were supposedly "good" at those jobs.
>>79644697
Wouldn't a woman with peak human abilities be on the level of a slightly above-average man.
>>79639403
To be fair, that was a really fucking good comic. I know it's hard to tell from this one page. But it really was excellent.
>>79641016
holy shit,
what a retarded fuck
>>79646259
>>79646263
Slightly above? No. It's closer to a "good" or trained high-school boy.
"Peak" women typically are about as skilled as a 15 year old average boy who enjoys the same hobby/skill.
Not only that but captain America works for Hydra. Look it up it's in one of their new comics he was a spy the whole time
>>79645266
Heh, this organization went under a few years back
So much for success
>>79633553
>Why are (((Marvel))) such cucks?
do you really have to ask?
>>79633553
>comic jews are jews
>(((stan lee)))
wow who knew
>>79643352
Still not making any sense
>>79646259
Jane Austin wrote about:
>Men of high status
>high class fashion
>relationships
>Social mores
These are things normal men don't give a shit about.
It's not simply preferring the gender of the author, it's that the author lives in a different mental world from you. Can you understand that?
... And yes, you have to be a very indoctrinated feminist to believe that Twain is less important than Austen, but according to you that's exactly what she was.
>>79645266
if the idea was to package white nationalism in an entertaining package, they failed, it's boring as shit and has no payoff
>>79645689
He wad a nationalist that fought for his people.
Do you even know what fascism actually is?
>>79646259
Another example... Women's comics tend to be cuter and more concerned with the characters. You read that stuff and think "Damnit, when is someone gonna start shooting?"
>>79646124
Fortissimo at Dawn
10/10 H game
Recently translated
>>79646516
>>79646960
>the author lives in a different mental world from you
She was a shit author. Every fucking book of hers is the exact same thing, and they are just bullshit soap operas where Austin pretends to be the girl, meets her dream man, and then convinces him to make babies with her. If you think that counts for "good writing", please take your buttplug out and go read something that doesn't have Fabio on the cover.
>>79647222
In other words, women's comics are shit. Besides, their characters are 2D predictable crybabies.
>>79647222
only comics that have any value are made by nipons anyway, but you're right about more concern put on characters or rather interaction between such
>>79646022
>Nobody here looks up to Hitler
>>79645689
Shut the fuck up you retarded mongrels. Hitler was a nationalist that put his people first. His welfare was only for the germans that truly deserved it. He improved every aspect of life in Germany (except freedom of the press) and even when he could have gone the ruthless route he always did his best to be compassionate and generous, and now you're criticizing him because of it?
FUCK OFF.
Is it a surprise to anyone that during a time of Islamic nationalism and black nationalism in the US all the media is telling their children they are American and wuz super hero's and sheit?
It's a psi op.
>>79633553
[unsolicited opinions on Israel]
>>79646516
>RRREEEEEEE
>>79647710
jesus christ this post makes me want to revoke my Italian citizenship
What are some actually good comics? Not even right wing ones, just ones that arent complete cultural marxist propaganda
>>79633553
Trump is the villain in the Bazaro alternate universe. That means he is a hero in our universe.
>>79647941
You were never italian anyway, you ignorant piece of shit.
Open a book nigger instead of swallowing propaganda. Jesus fuck you're stupid.
>>79648112
If I'm not Italian, then why do I have Italian citizenship? Why does my father? Why did my grandfather, great-grandfather, and so on?
I bet you're fucking Somali
>>79647710
>His welfare was only for the germans that truly deserved it.
Hitler was a coalburner [pic related]
>>79647983
The Punisher?
>>79639741
This entire discussion falls apart if they just took beanbags. Would like to see how it would go.
>reading western manga
>>79644842
I have to wonder, does Marvel have contempt for their faithful fans? Does having the replacement Cap, who they acknowledge within the universe might be seen as an illegitimate replacement for the values the original Cap stood for, assaulting old Steve Rogers with the insinuation that he and his kind are the new Hitler really supposed to make anyone sympathetic to Captain Nigger?
Seriously, they just did an "ode" to the original Cap by having the original Cap being assaulted by the black one(way to defeat stereotypes Marvel) and place him in the position as what many view as the most evil man in the world. Does Marvel hate their own history?
There was an article in Rawstory about this....
Wtf, do they censor comments? I wrote comment that was not even bad. I just responded to some fag that sound they new black Captain Americans, Muslim Ms Marvel, and spic Spider Man are top selling comics...the are not they actually failing hard. He also said the diversity in marvel comic, and thus readers, is why DC movies are hit or miss...I merely pointed out the marvel films that tanked and what a smash batman was.
They removed my comment. No bad launguage was used...worse thing I could've possibly said was "progressive media hype."
There's already been like 4 threads about this shit. No one gives a fuck.
>>79648494
Cap was an hydra sleeper cell all this time.
>>79645258
Amanda Conner draws some top notch cheesecake and she's a woman. She's also a built-in bulwark against accusations of sexism. How can it be sexist? It's drawn by a (perverted, oversexed) woman!
>>79635330
They'll exist until the end of time because the Disney Corp will never go under.
>>79633553
/co/ fucking banned anyone who wasn't against Trump in the thread on /co/ talking about this.
This is such bullshit. Mods banning for liking what they don't like as fucking always, not fairly applying the rules.
>>79647983
>>79633553
>Black and female Captain America
Woah, woah, back the fuck up
I heard about Steve Rogers being a Hydra sleeper now, but they did that to replace him with WHAT.
Every single time I think American comics can't get worse, they prove me wrong.
>>79648868
>oversexed woman
I don't understand.
>>79648868
Is that the "best" female comic artist you can find?
That has the anatomy of a Rob Liefeld comic, the techniques of an archy comic, and the layout of schizophrenia.
>>79647222
there's one fairly good female comic writer out there.
elfquest was pretty cool, with a married couple co-writing and drawing.
there was one a few years ago where some chick went and killed some elemental-gods out of revenge that i think... oh wait, no. there's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_Brothers who write about women and do drama comics, i thought they were chicks but nope.
a few female artists, tho.
>>79649172
That's what happens when you have a nigger for a mod
>>79648494
>I have to wonder, does Marvel have contempt for their faithful fans?
Yes. They have gone on record saying they try and piss readers off as often as possible because when they do, their sales numbers inexplicably rise.
>>79649240
>woah waoh back the fuck up shit nigger wut is happen een?
See:
>>79644697
>>79644484
>>79645258
>>79645481
>>79647671 >WE
>>79647705 >WAZ
>>79647750 >KANGS
>>79647781 >AN
>>79647827 >SHEET
>>79645689
>2016
>being a libertarian cuck
The rise of libertarianism started in the late 00's was caused by Jews who wanted to use the economic crisis as an excuse to ruin all welfare states in Europe and spend the leftover money on refugees. It worked.
If you are still an Ayn Rand(jew, by the way) wannabe in 2016, then you are a massive cuck.
>>79649401
They rise for the very first issue, but the sales dropoff is at a far steeper angle than in comics where they actually have good writing.
>>79633553
>not taking the japan jew
Very little SJW bullshit there.
>>79645689
And everything you listed is good except massive gun control.
>Reading Marvel
>in the current year
They haven't had anything good since Superior Foes folded. Now it's just SJW pandering and the occasional waifu that will be inevitably ruined when the SJWs get hold of her.
>>79647983
Judge Dredd
Punisher, especially Punisher Max
>>79649866
>edgy grimdark "EVERYONE GETS RAPED (EXCEPT ANY RECENT MALE CHARACTERS THOUGH LOL)" storylines
>good
Beserk is only good for the art. Everything else is dumb guy stuff.
>>79634502
Multiple people have used the name Captain America much like what they're trying to do with Thor. It largely comes down to which alternate universe and whether or not Steve Rogers is dead, resurrected, never was dead, whatever bullshit storyline.
>>79640265
Was't he fired for it?
I remember there was a huge shitstorm about it
What's worse is that he donated his own money if i recall correctly
>>79650270
He wasn't fired. He's the CEO.
>>79649279
Better than whoever drew that shit, at least.
>>79650049
>post one of the most blatant examples of not-PC
>i-it's edgy grimdark shit!!!
You want edgy grimdark shit? Here's some edgy grimdark shit.
>>79640040
And what's the problem with that?
>>79649172
>>79649395
I made a thread on /x/ about Hillarys sacrifices to Moloch. I stealthed it as curiosity about politicians joining sects and such.
After a 100 replies the thread got insta 404'd and I got banned for 2 hours.
What did they mean by this? :^)
>>79640537
Gotta love Bruno.
>>79650049
Dumb guy stuff? What?
All the dark elements are in the name of cultivating the perfect dark-ages aesthetic.
>>79650427
her standalone series is pretty good, really.
or was in 2014 which is the latest i've read.
>>79639028
I say this is wrong because this basically propaganda. Taking the valid talking points of one political group and shoving them in the mouth of a super villain is propaganda.
It's funny because /co/ is saying "it's just a joke" or it's not propaganda or they can do whatever they want. Idiotic non-arguments like "why can't a creator talk about politics? That happens all the time."
No there is a difference between "this is what I believe is right politically" and "vote for or don't vote for this specific candidate" because the latter is campaigning passed on as art in a consumer product.
I don't want any political bias in my comics, bias' meaning the latter type and trying to influence a particular vote.
![14886542._SY540_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/A4AGmne.jpg "14886542._SY540_[1].jpg")
>>79649227
Fucking DUDE LSD LMAO kike, I love his comics.
>>79650446
what is this, my shitposting friend?
>>79633553
Holy fucking artists in this thread
Who still reads comics and calls themselves adults???
>>79651092
fuck off manlet
>>79633553
>/pol/ getting triggered by fiction
Thinner skin than SJWs
>>79650937
Neet is caught breaking into his old school and masturbating with a girls swimsuit, jumps off the roof when caught then is reborn as his kid-self so decides to kill and rape.
I genuinely have no idea how it got published.
>>79637802
>Dr. Doom carrying about racism
What? This is worse than the time he cried during 9/11
![Umareru Kachi no Nakatta Jibun ga Anna no Tame ni Dekiru Ikutsuka no Koto - c015-021 (v03) [Mankitsu Scans].zip-146.png](https://i.imgur.com/EBIWNbJ.png "Umareru Kachi no Nakatta Jibun ga Anna no Tame ni Dekiru Ikutsuka no Koto - c015-021 (v03) [Mankitsu Scans].zip-146.png")
>>79650937
Umareru Kachi no Nakatta
It's not really worth it, just a short gory wankfest.
Read a good time-jumping gore story like Higurashi instead.
>>79638596
I didn't know Cap was a liberal cuck in the 80's
