>you euro.. I mean westeros people must stop raiding and raping
>my brown foreign horde can continue though
what did she mean by this
>>79625982
She never even went to Westeros, the fuck are you talking about?
>>79626076
she is on her way now
>>79626076
What about when she allied with the greyjoys and told them to stop?
>>79626076
Bob Burgerstain watches the HBO's D&D Game of Thrones Fanfic hour, due to his illiteracy
>>79625982
iron islands is barely westeros.
>>79626076
He's talking about this.
>>79626247
They're hardly Westeros.
They're really just savage hobos who happen to have ships. They can't grow shit and eat stuff like fish and salt.
>brown hordes (refugees) take over white europe led by a woman (merkel)
not to mention, muh stronk womynz everywhere
>>79625982
shitty writing
>claims she wants to leave the world a better place when she's done unlike her father
>plans to culturally enrich Westeros with dothraki doctors, lawyers and engineers and breed out the whites
>will probably give White Walkers refugee status in the south if Jon Snow btfo's them too badly
i hate the direction of this show, but at least its entertaining
>>79626296
It's the Serbia of Westeros.
>>79626996
No, you don't understand.
The Others are the indigenous white population.
They're finally reclaiming what's theirs.
>>79627134
Not even close, you cuck.
The Dothraki don't have their Khals anymore. They'll do whatever she says, and considering she's been going around freeing slaves and establishing law and order, I don't think she'll have the Dothraki do exactly the opposite of what she's trying to accomplish.
Besides, there are only a few thousand Dothraki, and I'm betting they'll all die on the front line when she invades Westeros.
I get that the show (and books) is pushing feminism, but it's not doing it very well. We have Queen Cercei, Queen Daenerys, and Queen Yara, but typical male protagonists still wield more power. Cercei may been queen of Westeros, but John Snow is the King of the North, which means Cercei only effectively controls half of Westeros - the worse half - and everyone hates her. Little Finger has the Vale army and he's now credited with saving Winterfell so that's important. Sam is about to become a Maester (Mason), and Jamie Lannister will be inside the Queen of Westeros shortly, so I think men are doing alright in the show.
>>79626996
the dothraki solders aren't gonna stay. they can't live the same lifestyle in westeros, they will go back to the desert plains.
>>79626397
To be fair don't most of them have their dicks chopped off?
>>79628582
You're thinking of the Unsullied.
The ones pictured there, and in greater numbers than the Unsullied, are Dothraki, a culture group most famous for destroyers of civilizations, raping and enslaving the survivors of cities they brought to ruin beforehand.
>>79626259
>implying the books are much better
Should be renamed A Song of Disposable Plot Devices Written Slowly.
>>79628444
>>79628707
They've had all of their leaders killed and have pledged to live a completely different lifestyle to their new leader who happens to be the most powerful person outside of Westeros. They have pledged to do whatever she says, so no they won't just rape and pillage Westeros. They'll adjust fine now that their entire way of life has been replaced.
>>79628931
>and have pledged to live a completely different lifestyle to their new leader
Yeah, I'm sure she'll be able to override literally thousands of years of traditions in the span of a few months.
>They'll adjust fine now that their entire way of life has been replaced.
t. Merkel
>>79628770
Everyone's a critic. The books and the show have a lot to offer if you're not intent on tearing them apart at every opportunity. There are lots of flaws, whatever, but if the story has zero appeal to you, you're a boring, unimaginative, insatiable twat.
It's like religion too. If all you ever know of religion is the superficial "magic daddy in the sky w/white robe", then you shouldn't be expected to enjoy it, but there's a lot more to it than that.
>>79628770
At least the fat fuck didn't throw out nearly every fan theory in one episode, to give all these gullible idiots what they wanted
>>79628235
Jamie is going to kill Cersei and become King himself
>>79628235
Don't forget the Martells and Tyrells, combined they can sack kings landing. (2 historical enemies united in vengence, something fitting about that)
Aern't the Tarley's lords of the Dornish marches
>>79625982
She's going to realize that her barbaric rapists won't produce a better civilization than white northerners.
>>79629079
She overrode their traditions in the span of one night, actually. She utterly obliterated not only their hierarchy, but their sacred temple and their social order as well. They're already doing everything she says.
Besides, flip that logic around and just look at Germoney: thousands of years of tradition ruined in the span of a few months because migrants have taken over the place. Traditions absolutely can be (and are) replaced in a short time under the right circumstances.
>t. Merkel
The ones sending the migrants aren't magical conquerors with dragons and a classicly liberal ideology. Nice false parallels, idiot.
>>79625982
>women
>logic
pick one or none
>>79625982
I fucking hate that show. It is one more shit on the big pile of shit that is western media, but this time with a pinch of european culture, so the average /pol/ fag can get brainwashed too.
>>79629721
Don't you have some rats to hunt or some elephants to sell?
>>79625982
She's not going to make it into westeros because Euron is going to use Dragon Binder to destroy her fleet. She'll have to renegotiate her naval terms with Euron and Asha will kill her.
>>79629664
Probably not considering he threatened to catapult Lord Edmure's baby into the river (lol) in order to serve Cercei's interests.
>>79629721
This as well senpai
>>79629985
Ooga booga :p
>>79629923
No, you're just a dumb cunt with no imagination.
>>79630143
>Mugabe posting on /pol/
don't pretend now, we know it's you
>>79630081
too good to be true... she'll do a "How to train your dragon 2" on Drogon, freeing him from the horn's effect and defeat Euron... you know.. with motherly love and such...
>>79630242
What kind of point is that? How do you know I have no imagination? I actually enjoy european fantasy, but the good one, like "The lord of the rings" or "The neverending story", not that pile of pseudo-epic-fantasy shit with pinches of soft pornography.
>>79630085
She effectively killed his last living child with her latest power grab
He will eventually kill her, that's the most appropriate ending to Cersei's arc.
He won't become king though that's fucking retarded, he'll probably die in the end.
>>79630081
Dragon Binder?
>>79630370
Horn?
Am I missing something? If the Great Mother has a weakness other than being a woman I'd like to know what it is.
>>79630085
Can't wait for Dany to land, I'm betting that they'll combine her plot line and Aegon VI's (Her supposed nephew) So She'll be arriving in the Stormlands first, take storms end and then the Dornish and Reach host's will meet her en-route to Kings Landing.
At this point Jon's all but guaranteed a Dragon (I'm betting on Rhegor becuase it's named after his dad)
Viserion will probably go to Dany's Dornish husband (Subtle reference to the first Martell-Targaryen union under the old king's (Viserys II) grandson)
I'm so pissed of at the fat fuck GRRM
>>79630541
Something from the books, a horn that can control dragons or some shit, been a long time since I read it.
There's no reason to believe it's going to be in the show at all, but I could see it.
>>79625982
The show's fucking shit anyway who cares what she meant by it.
>>79630541
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Dragonbinder
"That horn you heard I found amongst the smoking ruins that were Valyria, where no man has dared to walk but me. You heard its call, and felt its power. It is a dragon horn, bound with bands of red gold and Valyrian steel graven with enchantments. The dragonlords of old sounded such horns, before the Doom devoured them. With this horn, ironmen, I can bind dragons to my will." - Euron
>>79630143
Hi Robert
>>79626397
>no reaving, roving, raiding, raping
>comes with the most uncultured, barbaric and brutal army in the world
only a women would think this is gonna work out the way she wants
>>79630085
Those books consumed me, I went through withdrawal waiting for the Winds of Winter, When that encyclopedia of Ice and Fire came out it was during Exams I read it all in one sitting. (I'm an addict).
I can't go back, I'll die in this chair if I do, No more CK2 AGOT mod, No more debating fan fiction with mouth breathers. I need to get on with my life, I can't live like that anymore.
Take this shit to reddit you fucking normie
>>79630826
Shalom
>>79630486
Not liking GoT is a meme. There's plenty of criticism out against LOTR for drawing out the ending and having some really shitty actors as well, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying some of its greatest moments, like when Sauron's tower topples or when Golem hits the lava (in an entirely scientifically-inaccurate fashion btw).
If you are watching GoT and you cant enjoy for moments like the Red Wedding, the destruction of the Sept of Baelor, the intimation of John and Igrid, Sam accidentally killing a white walker who screams at Sam in defiance after realizing what he just got stabbed with, etc. Lot's of very powerful moments and storytelling in GoT but people see a few things they don't like or listen to others overly-criticize the show and they just walk off like a bunch of faggots who can't be pleased.
>>79630541
Can you fuck off, George, and actually get back to finishing The Winds of Winter?
>>79630604
I watch the show, and I don't understand
>>79630604
>I'm so pissed of at the fat fuck GRRM
Because of all the food he gets to eat?
>>79631101
Um, ok
Dany is merkel.
You germans are stupid and cause the crime, but all these immigrants will only enrich us :)
![a3b1f1c7d41ca9ed88876610e4461e94[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1DL4ewp.jpg "a3b1f1c7d41ca9ed88876610e4461e94[1].jpg")
>>79625982
I never watched the show, and when they started pandering to SJW faggots it assured that I would never bother.
There are much better shows, pic related
>>79631278
Cool thx glad we agree then.
>>79631172
Fuck you Achemd
>>79631338
Vikings is alright and all, but to many female warrerers and forced diversity
I never thought Dany would actually conquer westeros but at this point in the show it's basically inevitable. She's such a fucking mary sue in the show, it's a joke.
>>79631338
>meme haircut
No thanks.
I doubt the Vikings shaved like that.
>>79631501
Forced diversity how? Also female warriors are confirmed historically, not to mention it makes no sense for your society if all the men get killed off or lost at sea while raiding, you have no one left to reproduce or protect your settlement.
And if you mean the one chinese slave girl character that shows up in season 4, I will remind you that the hero fucks her and then strangles her to death in a river a few episodes later.
I doubt any SJWs feel placated by that.
>>79631101
You have a point, but listen.
Would you eat a sandwich of shit made with excellent bread? No you won't.
>>79631338
>>79631582
Oh, my bad. I forgot that the sub-human monkeys of Argentina are the experts on nordic history.
They'd know way better than a guy who spent his life studying European history, who wrote the show.
>>79631779
Another good one, superior to GoT.
>>79631779
the first episode i watched of this had a stronk female feminist lesbian couple
dropped
>>79625982
She will lose the war horribly. They prepare for the leftie backlash of white male John killing the cunt, the dorn-cunts and the old cunt of highgarden, by staging the rapefugee camps visits of acting personnel.
>>79631954
It's nice having mature gay characters for once who don't base their existence around it, and drag the show down.
I'm holding out for one specific cunt to hang or get brutally murdered.
I've only heard good things about Vikings, I just need to find time for it.
>>79631101
I liked LotR, but the biggest problem it had was that it wasn't this movie.
>>79631779
Based as fuck.
After that last season I just couldn't give a fuck about GoT anymore. Especially considering how shit this season was.
>>79631739
neat.
The female warriors isn't really historically accurate though. Maybe 5% of them would of been female and sometimes the men were known to bring their families on raids (but they stayed in the camps). Not the 1:1.5 female to male ratio that I saw
>>79632016
Its to show the contrast between a lawless Nassau, and conservative England.
You're missing out on some of the best action sequences on TV
>>79631764
I understand your concern, but the sandwich isn't made of shit. That's any reality tv show or shows like Dexter where the ending ruins the entire show. GoT is NOT one of the worst shows out there by any means. They fuck up often, but the show is trying to deliver a lot of messages that go beyond the superficial. They draw so many references from various world mythologies that are meant to explain to us, in terms most people can understand, messages like: ruling by fear is usually a death sentence, peace can be negotiated in most situations but not all, redemption is available to those who are willing to change and sacrifice, and power comes from adaptation. Then there's the feminism.
So the sandwich isn't made of shit but sauerkraut or something, and the bread is most excellent.
>>79628770
GRRM has no concept of anything related to logistics or agriculture. He also doesn't seem to understand the actual cost of repeatedly raising gigantic armies and then getting 90% of them all killed in constant battling affects his medieval, agrarian society.
>>79632016
Because of this bitch?
She gets fucking BTFO. And she's gonna get BTFO even harder son enough.
>>79630635
I think it will be in the show because when Euron is talking about using his 'big cock' to coax her I think he's talking about the dragon horn.
>>79632479
She was so cute on Hell On Wheels
She has aged like sour milk.
Her weird square forehead wrinkles annoy me to no end.
>>79632780
Seems like a loose connection, but plausible. I hope that doesn't happen.
>>79632183
Black Sails is worth watching just to see that transformation from John Silver to Long John the most feared pirate
>>79625982
It's not a bad show. Another way to view it is that a white takes control of an entire horde culture through magic... but really just superior tech.
>>79632879
different actress played Lily Bell
>>79630370
>>79630541
>>79630778
In case it wasn't obvious Dany's whole 'trope' is the almost queen. She nearly has something and either she fucks it up though mismanagement, or she fucks it up by picking shitty advisors doing shitty things. She almost has Westeros, but she'll fuck it up or Euron will fuck it up for her.
i want to put my poños in ser davos
>>79633259
>Euron killing Daenerys and Yara.
>MFW All the mass triggering.
>>79628931
sounds plausible to me
SAY IT LOUD
SAY IT CLEAR
DOTHRAKI ARE WELCOME HERE
>>79633196
well my mind is blown/
>>79626397
Haven't we already seen that those 'iron suits' effectively make the Dothraki useless?
It was the first fucking season when that one lapdog dude just ate a fucking scimitar to the gut because he knew it wouldn't get through his armor.
A pillaging horde destroys towns and farms. The fuck will it do to a castle? Its not like loss of innocent life has ever slowed down this universe before.
>>79625982
Once Daenerys's brown horde starts raping, pillaging and burning their way throughout Westeros all the "YAASS KHALEESI QUEEN SLAY" normie plebs will realize that D&D had them tricked into rooting for a reckless villain
Screencap this lads
>>79634199
there are 3 dragons (at least for now) for the castles..
>>79634463
Dany is a villain she wants to fuck up the current order in Westeros because MUH ROYAL RIGHT OF BLOODLINE HURR.
>>79633880
Again, they're not refugees, they're an actual invasion force. A small invasion force full of poor-quality fighters, so they'll probably die on the front lines. If they don't die, they'll be given a place to stay while they're reformed. They can't read or write and don't have a holy book to preserve their traditions, so now that all of their former leaders were burned alive by a magic dragon witch, their old culture is flat-out gone.
Imagine if Muslims had no Quran and all of their imams and other leaders were burned alive by a female libertarian. Then they all pledged allegiance to her...
>>79634609
>enriching westeros with other cultures
>a bad thing
Top lel.
Change is needed in the world... change for the better
>>79634463
They're already rooting for an inbred psychopath. They'll pretty much root for her forever.
>>79634609
She's technically not even the Targaryn heir. She's actually third in line behind Jon and then Young Griff.
>>79625982
Show is produced by joos. What did you expect ?
>>79632449
France seemed to be alright raising and losing massive armies over and over again during the Napoleonic era.
>actually watching this fagaganda
You people are part of the problem. I guarantee at least half of you love Orange is the new Black.
>>79634788
>bastard rapebabby
>having a claim to the throne
But then again, D&D doesn't seem to give a fuck about that since they made him king of the north just like that
>Young Griff
Cut from the show desu
>>79634199
the dothraki's sole +'s to battle are their overwhelming numbers and being on horseback.
>don't do good vs armor
>don't do good vs phalanx's
>don't do good vs high walls
>worthless on the ocean
In an open battle they should do decent but anything else and their usefulness drops fast and hard
>>79634766
>other culture
>implying Dany wont ditch the Essosians once she has the more intelligent Westerosi under her control
Dany is no multiculturalist and a good psychopath since she played that I HATE SLAVERY stuff that the subhumans in Mereen ate up allowing her to control it.
>>79634987
Rob is the king because hes Lysanna's son and a male so his claim is better than Sansa.
>>79634463
>>79634609
>>79634777
As I said, I don't even like the show, but I did read the books (many years ago, and I don't like them either).
I also watched the first two seasons and some random scenes, so I know what is this about.
Turns out Daenerys is as insane as her brother was, and this guy is right, it will be even worse.
It would not surprise me if she ends up like the mad King, murdered by her own guards during a rebellion of several westeros houses.
>>79625982
I swear if the horse fuckers don't rape and pillage in Westeros this story is pure bullshit with no relation to reality. They already have the iron borne abandoning the very essence of their culture.
>>79634777
these kek sevens confirm.
>>79635246
Dany isnt Aerys tier crazy shes just a psychopath.
>>79635150
Lyanna is behind Ned in inheritance, and all of Ned's children are ahead of Lyanna's.
>>79635256
It'll be a small miracle if any sizable portion of em make it to Westerios let alone survive past the first month.
>Euron sinks a good chunk of em
>disease kills another good chunk of em
>Dany puts em on the front line vs KingsLanding
>Dany marches em into the deep snow of da north to fight white walkers
>>79635350
Because she is Young.
You can see how she gradually loses his mind.
Thats why I said it would not surprise me if she ends like Aerys. Don't forget they inherit the madness (it's said in the books)
>>79635246
Cercei is the mad king right now.
Daenerys will fuck her up along with the rest of Westeros.
Then John will just fuck just about everything else up because he's an idiot.
>>79629362
The show story has objectively turned to shit for idiots.
>>79631501
I agree if a show has non-whites or a female characters that is not in the kitchen or having babies is SJW propaganda
>>79634463
Winter is here. She won't have/let the Dothraki rape and pillage anything, she needs them to invade fortified cities so she can rule them differently than their former masters. This is the whole fucking point - she takes the rabble and tries to provide them with redemption and a new way of life.
Muslims:
>make/keep slaves
>ignore/attack everything not within their traditions
>use modern tech to convert everyone by force
>led by slavers and highly divided in leadership
Dothraki:
>fight to free slaves
>abandoned their traditions in favor of a new order
>keep their old tech
>led by the archetypal libertine and only her and do everything she says
Besides, Daenerys will be tied up with fighting white walkers and Others very soon. Plus, John Snow - the King of the North, won't allow raiding and raping and pillaging in his new kingdom.
>>79635608
>objectively
Explain.
>>79635350
>Slavery is wrong! You have no right to do this!
>Muh ancient pedigree!
>I want to avoid casualties
>Impale them all! No mercy!
>Literally cucking Jorah to death
>Her "negotiations" consist on killing or maiming peaceful ambassadors or unarmed people.
Mad queen.
>>79635734
I don't even know what I meant by that. Probably a typo.
>>79635595
Jesus, I hate her face.
>>79635867
Nah, just over-verbosity to attempt to add weight to your statement.
>>79628235
>few thousand
There are dozens of thousands.
She killed off several khals and took their men.
>>79635922
At least she lost some weight this season. I wonder how they got through to the porker. Maybe terminator bombing scared the burritos out of her mouth.
>>79635987
Objectively is over verbosity? K, nigger.
>>79635150
That's not how it works, female heir > bastard
>>79634199
>implying that won't be forgotten for stronk wymyn
>implying anything after midway through season 5 kept any continuity as DABIDx2 wrote stories to please normies
>>79636046
Also she had a nude scene this season. Gotta be motivating.
>>79636099
It is when you don't fucking know what you mean by it, fag lord.
>>79636038
Is that right? It didn't look like dozens of thousands when they stormed Meereen.
>>79636375
No it isn't. You're just a dumb nigger intimidated by "big" words.
>>79630635
In the books she can't control her dragons though and it'll be necessary for her to have eurons horn before she can. Maybe they're just waiting though, dunno
>>79634199
Dragons aren't that much of an ultimate weapons. Afterall wasn't there a skull of much larger dragon in the catacombs in King's landing? That means humans did somehow manage to take him down.
And you are right, what does she plan to do with the castles? Dothraki are useless, Unsullied are elite, but small force, AND she left Second sons at home.
>>79636173
I want to fatten her up and keep her chained to my bed so she can breastfeed me when I'm lonely.
>>79630861
or a stronk womyn that is going to make it all work!
>>79636484
Nope. When you add "big" words for no apparent reason, that's called "being overly-verbose".
>>79635734
Dany is incredibly inconsistent. She was someone who just wanted to take over because she was told from childhood it was her right.
Then she was supposed to have become a good leader who cares about people.
Now she is invading Westeros which will result in a hell of a lot of deaths but she is still portrayed as a good person. She is at least as dangerous to Westeros as the White Walkers.
The show cant seem to move away from her being a heroine when she is clearly not one. Also the increased focus on her when she is a Mary Sue with too much plot armor.
>Muh Dragons.
>>79636526
Not to mention that one of her dragons almost got killed by a bunch of hobos with spears. I can't imagine they'll last too long when facing a trained army.
>>79636687
Nah you're just a dumb nigger.
>>79636786
She doesn't even need her dragons as long as she has her mighty uterus.
>>79636526
Infighting caused the big dragons to die.
>>79631889
>I can't defend my meme show so I'm going to just hurl insults at you like a monkey slings feces
Idiot.
>>79636948
The thread is how the show is trying to convey a political world view doesn't need to be /tv/.
>>79636862
Her shriveled, barren uterus?
>>79625982
Can someone explain why does she want to come and resque westeros? Average peasant in westeros seems pretty well off if you ask, sure there are wars going on etc. But from background shots we got, everyone seems pretty well off.
The Iron Island Dream is dead.The Andals are ripping us off in trade. We started with 17 other candidates at the Kingsmoot. Now it's me, little Theon and of course Crooked Yara or the leftovers as i call them. Crooked Yara! She won't release her transcripts to the speeches she gave at the Iron Bank of Braavos, then on top of all that she couldn't even handle her illegal Raven server. Who knows what damage that's done to country. And she says i'm not qualified to be King! Give me a break! So here's the story folks, if you elect me King of the Iron Islands i'm going to turn things around so fast it will make your head spin! We don't win anymore, we don't win with our Naval fleet, we don't win with our boarders, the Summer islanders are stealing our job. Not gonna happen anymore folks! We're going to start winning again! We're gonna win so much! And you will come up to me and say "Y-your grace i'm getting tired winning." I'm gonna say treason we're gonna win with our Navy we're gonna win at our boarders we're win with trade and so long as i'm your King we will never stop winning! It time to make The Iron Islands Great Again!
>>79636786
What did GRRM mean by this?
>>79625982
Aparently the Show is quite different from the books, in the books men and women are portrayed like warmongers and power hungry people, from what i hear about the Show, major female character there are portrayed like dindu nuffins
>>79636764
exactly doesnt make sense, she isnt saving anyone, by mounting an act of war. Im pretty sure in books she will be stopped portraied to be good person, but in TV-series shes still somehow a good person, even though her acts are on the level of Cercei
>>79636764
She doesn't just "believe" she has the right to rule, she insists - which is the only right of passage of any ruler/conqueror. She began with a vague notion of her right to rule, got basically sold as a sex slave to a bunch of apes, and then became determined to exact that notion. She is a good person, if for no other reason than for freeing tens of thousands of slaves and then crushing their old masters only after they attacked her city. She has a strong conscience, which is more than can be said of most GoT characters.
She's also named Tyrion Hand of the Queen (lol) which means she appreciates his diplomacy and non-violent attitude enough to make him her most important officer. She also consistently follows his advice.
The white walkers are like the army of Hell. They're literally an undead horde of flesh-craving monsters - and they outnumber everyone. They're far more dangerous to Westeros than Daenerys because they want to kill every living thing. They are also capable of doing so unless John Snow and Daenerys can stop them.
>>79636819
kthxbai
last season was 100% pure propaganda to elect hillary clinton in november.
>>79637436
>from what i hear about the Show, major female character there are portrayed like dindu nuffins
The first 4 seasons followed the books pretty accurately and those were good. After season 5 the show started to surpass the books. GRRM hasn't finished writing them he writes slow as fuck. First book came out in 1995. Anyway, they're pretty much making up there own story now and shoved their politics down our throats while they were at it.
>>79637658
>After season 5
meant to say from season 5
>>79636099
it is over verbosity when you dont even know what the word is supposed to mean in the sentence
>>79637658
so which book should i start reading to actually get correct content if i watched all seasons?
>>79637477
You anti-Daenerys people complain that she's like an SJW, but you're the one's acting like she's evil for using force against literally the worst kinds of people.
"Oh no she's gonna invade a feudal shithole rampant with murder and corruption! And she's gonna do it without burning everything to the ground!"
Cercei is 10x more fucked up than Daenerys. How many innocent people has Daenerys intentionally killed? How many has Cercei intentionally killed? Does Cercei care if she's an evil cunt? No. Does Daenerys? Yes.
>>79637844
Do niggers get autism, too?
>>79637488
It doesnt matter if the white walkers kill you or you get burned to death by dragons.
Also her slave army is free but performing the exact same duty they would do if they wernt free. They just needed to hand her a military that would obey her because reasons.
Its a shit show for children.
>Oh Dany is a good person...killing thousands in a war of conquest for shits and giggles.
It would actually be fine if they didnt try to portray her as good.
>>79635614
This is said as a joke but when you are dealing with shows in a historical setting, what you said is actually spot on.
>>79637933
>"Oh no she's gonna invade a feudal shithole rampant with murder and corruption! And she's gonna do it without burning everything to the ground!"
why does she brings dragons and her sandnigger horde then ?
>>79637933
Nobody says Cersei is an evil cunt. She's just not portrayed as the savior of all sand people. Also she's actually a well written character with no insane amounts of plot armor and zero character flaws. The only character flaws Dany has are the ones people give as answers in job interviews.
>>79638230
*is not an evil cunt
She meant that Night King is based and does nothing wrong
>abloobloo muh long wintah :(
living creatures were a mistake
>>79637933
I hope you are trolling. Both her and Cercei have both gotten to where they are the exact same way.
Killing lots of people by burning them to death.
>>79637658
>GRRM hasn't finished writing them he writes slow as fuck.
Yeah, the fat bastard is only traveling around the world and living the great life, he doesn't want to write anymore.
>Still two books (2000 pages) to end the Series
You will see the end in TV.
i am pretty sure that memer of dragons is planning to burn them all with her dragons after the war is over
>>79637904
Depends what you want out of it. The show surpassed every plotline except that of Jaime I think which is about as far as in the books.
They cut some stuff out which I wont spoil for you.
>>79631338
Yeah because vikings doesn't pander to SJWs at all
>b-but muh shieldmaidens :(
women were forbidden from owning weapons and the axes found in their graves were fucking woodcutting ones
>>79637933
>Want to stay and rule in your captured city
>fuck your economy
>fuck your traditions
>fuck your culture
>stop liking what I don't like or you'll die
>also fuck you
I love watching all these shows with powerful women and seeing men get BTFO. I watch these shows with my girlfriend all the time and love to do everything she tells me to do. Giving her foot massages during the shows is one of my favorite things to do.
t. cuck
>>79637933
>How many innocent people has Daenerys intentionally killed?
She crucified 300 hundred innocent people in Meeren. She burnt a random noble for no reason.
>>79637933
Look at the fucking reddit sperging out. Go back to rewatch it and tell me how many cities she levelled. You think the dragon flames somehow miraculously missed the innocents in those cities? It isn't in the show, but books show well that she can talk big, but when it comes to governing, she is utter shit, not even realizing that taking ten thousand slaves on the road will require logistics and supplies.
>>79638489
Shieldmaidens are historic figures tho, even the mithologyc Valkyries are portrayed as females, chooser of the fallen to bring them into the Valhalla.
Vickings has worse problems, like all the Christian bullshit with Adelstan, when in that time and age Vickings were full pagans.
>>79637904
The first two seasons are pretty accurate to the first two books. They start throwing shit around in book 3 so I'd start there. In the show they really start changing the stuff from book 3, 4 and 5. But the story after book 5 (which hasn't been written yet by GRRM) is the shit we're seeing now.
>>79638989
So basically starting from third book is good idea.
>>79638989
I'll make it more clear.
BOOK 1 = SEASON 1 barley to no changes
BOOK 2 = mostly SEASON 2 few changes
BOOK 3 & 4 = first major changes spans over season 3 & 4 plotlines from different books are combined they also cut out some big plot lines from the books
BOOK 5 = season 4 & small parts of season 5
So yeah I'd say start from book 3.
>>79639179
meant to reply to this post
>>79639179
>>79638957
>historic figures
no, not at all neither Saxons nor Franks mention any fucking female vikings
>>79638685
I actually watch this show while rubbing my girlfriends feet however I think the show is trash.
>>79632343
It's delivering shit messages, m8.
It's delivering shit messages because it's shit.
You're not even wrong about it not being superficial - it's got lots of depth, and the depth is all filled with shit.
You need to stop guzzling sewage you stupid faggot.
>>79626259
>Americans r dum
>he says as he reads an american book
>>79639375
Christianfags of the middle ages distorting history? That cannot be
M8, they are like modern day ISIS, they thing if a woman killed them they can't into paradise
Snorri Sturluson, first source on the matter, speak about them in the Sagas
>>79634199
Do the Dothraki even use bows? It seems they're just light cavalry.
If they don't have bows, they're going to get fucked.
>>79634877
That was because France had a massive agrarian population to support a meat grinder zerg rush.
"You cannot stop me I spend 30,000 lives a month" Napoleon said to MEtternich
>>79639923
Yes, in S1 Bran is consoled that Dothraki boys learn to fire a bow from horseback at a young age, so he can too.
>>79639964
No. Because Napoleon was the first to start universal military conscription. Plenty of European states had the population to do this too.
>>79638082
>It doesnt matter if the white walkers kill you or you get burned to death by dragons.
The white walkers target everything alive, Daenerys targets masters and murderers. She's murdered too, but who hasn't in GoT? She's actually restraining herself in ways Cercei never has.
>Also her slave army is free but performing the exact same duty they would do if they wernt free. They just needed to hand her a military that would obey her because reasons.
Except they were allowed to leave the instant they were conquered by Daenerys and they chose to stay.
>Oh Dany is a good person...killing thousands in a war of conquest for shits and giggles.
Nope. Killing thousands of slavers and corrupt rulers who are hated by a population of weak plebs who are too afraid to revolt on their own.
>>79638125
>why does she brings dragons and her sandnigger horde then ?
Because she's not going to save Westeros with her good looks.
>>79638230
>The only character flaws Dany has are the ones people give as answers in job interviews.
Nice line. Daenerys is portrayed as being too naive and reckless all the time. She works against this by intelligently hiring some of the best minds in the world. Tyrion, Varys, Jorah, etc.
>>79638338
Cercei kills people to save her own skin. Daenerys intentionally puts herself in harm's way to fight for an ideal, like a leader. She doesn't want to rule because lol power, she wants to rule because she believes she's the only one who will rule with the interest of freeing slaves and fighting corruption.
>>79638552
The people she conquered supported her reforms.
>>79638865
300 slave masters. I don't remember the other but again, when analyzing the ethical prowess of a GoT character, a few murders must be forgiven on all party's accounts because the show is imbued with violence at every turn.
>>79638872
She didn't level any city, she just threatened to.
>>79639923
Actually showing horse archers fighting effectively would cost too much money so instead they just talk a lot about dothraki being badasses and show them riding up in small numbers and poking people with swords.
>>79636764
>Dany is incredibly inconsistent
Well she is a woman.
>>79636526
>>79637344
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>>79636917
The dragon was killed by the sand people. They were the only people to resist the Targaryan dragons. When the pretty boy was named to the kings council by Tywin it was because he knew the Dragon whore was coming and he needed the sand people's battle secrets to bring down the dragons.
>>79640195
So Dany wont kill thousands when she invades Westeros?
Of course she will.
>>79639881
http://www.hurstwic.org/history/articles/society/text/women.htm
there were no female warriors in Norse society dumb spic
>>79640195
>The people she conquered supported her reforms.
They supported her so hard they tried to throw a spear through her fucking face.
>>79640195
>Nice line. Daenerys is portrayed as being too naive and reckless all the time.
Yes, which are '''flaws''' which people tell during job interviews -- meaning no real actual flaws -- after someone asks you what your major flaw is. This was my fucking point you dimwit.
>>79631779
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>>79632479
THe real problem is its on starz and I cant watch that shit.
>>79640345
Thousands of soldiers, sure. Is this a crime or is it war?
>>79640369
The Sons of the Harpy, a small group supporting the interests of the slave masters. The people revere her.
>>79636578
I thought I was the only one that wanted that.
>>79640581
You are saying she is a moral character. She is going to kill thousands of people for her own pride.
She is evil. I know you are role playing being a retard but its nice to get my grievances with the character off my chest since I have to watch every episode.
>>79640195
>Nice line. Daenerys is portrayed as being too naive and reckless all the time.
Which are one of those '''flaws''' which are really actually positives. That was my point. Her story would be much more interesting if she wasn't portrayed as such a goody two shoes while she's committing genocides and transporting the GRRM version of the Mongol horde to Westeros.
>>79640371
I've never heard of someone admitting they are naive and reckless in a job interview.
>I'm better at working alone
>I tend to try to be a bit controlling
>I tend to micromanage
Those are job interview flaws, not "I try to rule but I fuck up by not considering the consequences of my actions in full." Try to get the job after saying that, you cocksucker.
>>79640171
>universal military conscription
Yea nigger where do you think most of those people came from? It wasn't gay PARIs.
>>79640349
Yep, cause some faggot says that in some random blog of the internet, let's forget about source materials of the middle ages.
kys potato nigger
>>79640855
So? Other nations did not have lower population than France. Napoleon was simply the first to utilize them. That was my point.
>>79634199
What's worse is that she decided to attack at the start of winter which will last a long fucking time and will probably kill half of her loin cloth army.
>>79640697
>The cringe.jpeg
>>79640369
#notallspearchuckers
>>79640818
This.
If she was not written with such a naive audience in mind she would be a great character. People want power but they also want to consider themselves as good. So they act like hypocrites and make inconsistent moves.
Maybe GRRM is a genius and at the end the moral of the story is that she was a hypocrite and a stupid girl.
>>79640944
it's still pretty hot in the south, they are not landing in Hardhome
>>79640719
She started off with vague ambitions of power and then she realized that she actually wanted to change the world for the better. That's called character development. Sure, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, but she's no longer an "end justifies the means" kind of character. She intends to be as non-violent as she can be while liberating a corrupt kingdom for the sake of the commoners. Not evil, especially in this setting.
>>79640922
Do you think any other country could have actually enforced universal conscription? Honest question. Napoleon honestly didn't give a fuck and apparently neither did the meat sacks he used.
The One True King
>>79641063
>I will save the commoners by killing them with my dragons
Wow its like the Iraq war all over again.
>>79626397
dany is a huge hypocrite. its part of her character, she is one of the main villaincs of the story and thinks she is always right.
>>79625982
ANyone who watches this show or follows it.
Is a fucking loser and you need to get out more. And stop watching this softcore porn/ snuff films with a hint of medieval murder fetish.
Seriously. GO. OUTSIDE.You do not need to do anything fancy. GO FOR A FUCKING WALK YOU SACK OF SHIT!
>>79641034
How do you know where she will land? Kings landing may not be priority if she gets there and the NIght kIng has already conquered half of westeros.
>>79640719
Bingo. The D&D alignment system is a really good way to judge these characters; for all the moral relativism the series touts, a vast majority of the plot comes down to some character being butthurt about their family getting deservedly wrecked.
Even the good guys are closer to neutral than good. Daenerys falls, at her absolute best, on the lawful evil scale. She has something of a moral code, but it only applies to HOW she murders everything in her path to get back something she never possessed, understood, or deserved.
She's your typical crusader tyrant; her quest is moral in her own mind, so the battles fought by others or their reasons for fighting don't matter.
Muh gay strong women allies, army of castrated men and muslim horse fuckers must conquer the western world.
But then again she is grrm's version of Sauron.
Not sure if based..
>>79641159
What's so great about going outside anyway?
>>79630604
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>>79641159
>GO. OUTSIDE
>Saying this in a chink anime board one sunday
>>79633196
this actress is also hot as fuck in this season of House of Cards btw
>>79641074
>Do you think any other country could have actually enforced universal conscription?
Do you really think Napoleon was the only one that did not give a fuck about French peasants? Neither did the Prussians or the English. Napoleon was simply the first to utilize them.
I responded to your comment because you said this;
>France had a massive agrarian population
While it was due to universal conscription. Don't know why you're arguing about stuff I didn't even say.
>destructive, emotional white queen leads army of rapist "Muslims", castrated men, and freed slave-niggers to conquer the homeland of white people
HMMMMMMMMM
Could George R. R. Martin secretly be very based?
>>79641141
So dense. She's going to kill soldiers, not commoners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaLk3l4m7zk
These kinds of speeches resonate with her.
>>79641402
I already went out faggot spainard.
go siesta and smoke some pot and drink at the same time.
Also go sleep with a 15 yr old! who is blonde. blue eyes.. pure....
Ill be back
>>79632198
There were no female warriors, you're thinking of shieldmaidens based solely on norse mythology from the valkyrie (female "warrior angels" kind of) that fought for Oden.
Women were not warriors, there's no proof of them going out with the men to fight and raid. People just assume that the valkyrie have a grain of truth to them.
>>79641162
she has the support of dorne and of house tyrell, both in the south; it's logical to think she'll land in friendly lands because her army needs time to reassemble after a long long journey out in the sea
KL is a priority, it's the seat of power of westeros.
she wants the iron throne..
and beside that, how do you know NK will have conquered half of westeros?
>>79634910
OINTB is a decent diversion from constantly fretting about the end of civilization
>>79641580
She's going to butcher everything in her path, because the commoners ARE the fucking soldiers. There's going to, MAYBE, be slightly less raping, but what do you think happens when all the farmers who were conscripted are killed playing soldier? They were wearing the wrong colors, so butchering them all in a revenge quest is suddenly moral?
>>79640891
And what is your source for shieldmaidens existing dumb fucking moor rape baby?
>muh sagas
sagas also mention trolls and shapeshifters you retard also explain why Icelandic law forbid women from owning weapons if shieldmaidens existed
>>79641189
>Tyrion and Missandrei die
>Dany goes crazy and lets dothraki and ironborn have their way with villages
>Bran finds out that the white walkers have a prosperous civil society
>Bran negotiates a pact with Jon and the Night King
>Jon defeats Dany and her dragons, ushers in an era of peace and prosperity between the north and south.
>>79641516
I think he said the 30,000 lives quote to intimidate his austrian opponent. Meaning that they're numbers couldn't match his numbers. ALso im not arguing anything asking for your opinion on the matter. Do you think other European countries could have enforced universal conscription without dealing with rebellion?
>>79641580
So a war between two continents wont result in commoners dying? Following lots of battles in Westerous where famine was talked about a lot. Another conquest will make famine worse. Also you are saying that soldiers lives are worthless.
Again I would like to say I realize I am talking without someone who is being devils advocate at best and role playing a complete retard at worse.
Dany wants to rule for her own ego and killing people to satisfy that is evil. She is not a moral character but she is portrayed as one for the retards that can only like "good" guys.
I like Cearsi. I hope she murder rapes Dany.
>>79641866
>all the pagans regions follow the same laws
>all the pagans countries has the same gods
Grab an History book and stop wasting my time, russian rape baby.
>>79626572
>They're really just savage hobos
So just like MOTHER OF DRAGUNS and her army of horse-fuckers? Well minus the ships, they cant build them.
>>79641843
No it isn't this is why before she dies in the show she will realize she is just as much of a villian as everyone else.
screen cap this
> she gets to westeros
>she starts killing lannister allied armies
>realizes she is a monster for it
>Jon Snow the real heir to westeros calls for help fighting the NIght king
>she goes and saves the day
>THe zombie mountain gets into her throne room
>Zombie mountain precedes to literally quarter her
>cersei lannister remains on iron throne
>Jon snow the only morally uncorrupted character on the show comes and takes the throne
THE END
>>79642163
Name some battles shieldmaidens participated in if you are so sure about their existence.
>>79642198
Even worse.
The desert hobos are feared/respected.
The sea hobos are mocked and shat on.
>>79641843
No, their forced conscription is immoral and if they die fighting Daenerys's army then the ones who forced them to fight are to blame. If they don't lay down their swords when Daenery's gives the the chance (and she will), then it'll be their fault they died.
Daenerys would be at fault if she gave the soldiers no opportunity to stand down, but she has done so many times in the lands she's invaded.
>accept my invasion or die and that's somehow moral
Don't even. The people of Westeros need to be liberated. They're not doing fine like Europe before the migrant crisis, they're churning in a pot of corruption stirred by the rich houses who want to keep it that way.
>>79642258
>why before she dies in the show she will r
Meant to say "she dies in the end"
>Why didn't you listen
>you could have prevented this
>He still watches Goyim of Thrones
>>79642010
>Do you think other European countries could have enforced universal conscription without dealing with rebellion?
I don't think so, the French just had their revolution and were being attacked form all sides. Desperate times require desperate measures.In this case universal conscription. I agree, I doubt it would've worked in other countries without causing a rebellion and even if it would've, I doubt any ruler would've imposed this ruling for fear of starting a similar revolution in their countries.
>>79628235
>Unleashing 100K sandnigger savages
>Good Idea
>>79642088
I'm sure some commoners will die, but not for Dany's ego. They will die because a new way of life is about to be ushered into Westeros. If a 10,000 commoners die (not fucking likely) to end slavery and destroy the current corrupt order, then too fucking bad. This is so hundreds of thousands of future commoners don't have to go to war just because the lannisters don't like the Starks. They leaders of the houses of Westeros are the ones who place zero value on the lives of soldiers; they'll piss them away just to prove a point or take a small town. If the Maesters and the slavers and the psychopathic lords aren't defeated, then Westeros will just get weaker and weaker until the Night King kills them all at the opportune moment. The invasion by Daenerys will replace this fucked order and make Westerosi citizens value their own lives and those of others a lot more. That'll come in handy against an army of frozen corpses.
>>79642705
In the grand scheme.
>>79626397
She probably remembers what happened to the last Dothraki group that she commanded.
>>79642454
>>He still watches Goyim of Thrones
>>not calling it Games of the Good Goyims
>>79642299
>Battle of Brávellir in the year 750
>Battle of Bulgaria in 971
Now stfo iliterate bastard
>>79642361
"I'm killing you and conquering your lands for your own good."
The creed of tyrants since the dawn of time. What about the soldiers who are loyal, then? Are they somehow evil because they uphold their oaths? Are the lesser noble houses evil because they uphold theirs?
Daenerys is no better. She's out for blood and wants the throne. She's in the game for revenge. The one who surrender....you think they won't end up in her army? Please, you're smarter than that.
>>79625982
Just wait for her death lol
>>79625982
She can't forget the BBC
>>79628235
>>79636474
>here are only a few thousand Dothraki
>Is that right? It didn't look like dozens of thousands when they stormed Meereen.
Look at the scene where she is being taken to Vaes Dothrak. ALso do the math on the near 350 ships just in this shot.
>>79625982
>what did she mean by this
I dunno OP, you tell me.
>>79642924
What do you think will happen after all that? That the continent the size of america will just become a monachry with an absoloute ruler? And how do you govern all that in times where less then ten percent of the people can read and the fastest way of information travel is a horse or raven?
She wanted to crush the wheel but she will still need houses to rule all of this.
With this level of technology it can not stop
>>79642924
Slavery is and always has been illegal in Westeros.
Dude stop.
>>79643122
>Rus
>vikings
you're fucking retarded after all
>>79634199
When you have plot armor (liberalism) you don't need logic and rationale.
