>MANILA, Philippines - In the first two days of the Duterte presidency, at least 12 suspected drug traffickers and users were killed while more than 700 drug users surrendered in the cities of Taguig, Pasay and San Juan.
>Duterte promised during the campaign that he would have drug traffickers killed because they destroyed families and the country’s future.
>From Thursday when he assumed office until yesterday morning, eight drug suspects were killed in Bulacan, two in Cavite, one in Manila and another in Ilocos.
>The eight suspects in Bulacan were killed in anti-drug operations in the towns of San Rafael, Hagonoy, San Ildefonso, Norzagaray and Guiguinto and in Malolos City early yesterday, according to reports that reached Senior Supt. Romeo Caramat Jr., acting Bulacan police director.
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/07/02/1598751/days-1-and-2-12-drug-suspects-die-700-surrender
Is this the most effective way to deal with the degeneracy that is substance abuse?
Thumbnail looks like a girl with enormous squished boobs.
>>79561071
This problem is best and most effectively addressed on the demand side, ie offering treatment to addicts.
As long as addicts exist and drugs are on a black market, people will attempt to profit regardless of the consequences.
>>79561071
Wu-tang ain't nuthing ta fuck wit
>>79561071
>naming the chink
>that batmane logo
I swear I may emigrate to the Philippines.
>>79561071
Most? Verdict is still out but the results so far show it's effective.
>>79561496
This.
Duterte supports closer ties with China and basically seceding from the American empire. WHAT NOW POL
Remember, the ones they killed are the ones they had keeping tabs with and still won't surrender or even resist arrest.
If you come here to sympathize, "what if he dindu nuffin", then fuck off and be a nigger.
Damn, I guess that kinda shit really does work after all.
Good job.
>>79561071
Chinese bat signal.
can we get some of these flips to police our black communities. Can you imagine the amount of dindu nuffins?
>>79562230
Why do you hate drug dealers so much? Seriously it's not like they are violent or anything.
>>79562230
holy shit flips are based
>>79561071
The punishment being death worked for millenia in controlling human behavior.
>>79561496
Thank you
>>79561496
>>79562101
>>79562519
Porn destroys minds.
>>79561071
Wasn't the flip president encouraging citizens to shoot drug dealers?
>>79562475
Because the judical systems in these countries are really fair, and no innocent people will get killed.
Want to get rid of someone, pump them full of some drugs and cap them, and you don't get prosecuted for murder.
We critizice Saudi Arabia for executions, yet the flips are no different.
>>79561071
No but it will drive drug users and dealers underground and make them much more violent.
Like, if drug possession laws aren't really strongly enforced and you get a ticket, you're not going to care that much if some little kid walks in on you smoking a joint.
But if the penalty is death and it's stricly enforced. If you get caught by a little girl while smoking the joint there's only one thing to do.
Kill the little girl and put her into a garbage bag with cinderblocks and throw her in the ocean at least a few miles out.
Why not? The punishment for murder is the exact same as the punishment for drug possession, so better to decrease your chances of getting caught.
So expect drug dealers and users to be a LOT more violent as a result of this policy.
>>79561496
God damn it Japan.
>>79561929
The short term effects is astonishing but the question is the long term effects, do you think the criminals will start becoming better armed to fight back or not?
>>79562230
So overall you approve of the way this is being handled or if not do you think there are ways it could be improved?
>>79562475
True, the only question is will they stop here or will they introduce similar penalties for other crimes, and if so, is it justified?
(I am trying to remain as neutral as possible to encourage discussion on this topic instead of it devolving into the usual shitfest that occurs)
>>79562423
It's insidious cancer.
The narcostates of the world are actually a global threat, not just to health but economically both domestically and internationally and as seen in Afghanistsn militarily and politically.
Drugs are as an industry incredibly destructive.
>just kill them all then there will be no drugs lel XD
child's reasoning, the void will always be filled, probably by the police/military units you decided to utilize as death squads
>>79562827
this is true
phillipines also have islamic insurgent problem they should deal instead of drugfags
>>79562786
>implying you can't bypass the judicial system entirely in these countries with a few hundred dollars.
Go back to the suburbs kid
>>79562981
he was making that exact point but you didn't catch his sarcasm.
>>79561071
>Legalise drugs
>Drugs flood country by own government
>Suddenly drug dealers no longer exist for the same reason speakeasies no longer exist
>Problem solves itself
Or are you talking about drug addicts? If you are the problem can't be solved because the problem already exists and zero tolerance means nothing because zero tolerance never works, never has and never will. You can never solve a problem like this, you either make it or worse or stabilise it. Therefore you compromise and the only real compromise is what I greentext anyway.
>>79561519
there are plenty of addicts that don't want to get off their drugs.
>>79562101
Kek
>We should be doing this anyway desu senpai.
>>79563113
I have legit autism.
I'm not good at humour
>>79561071
I don't think killing drug dealers is going to stop them. It's just too lucrative. Look at places like black ghettos in America where drug dealers are killing each other every day. Even though it's dangerous as hell people still do it there because the money is too good to pass up.
/pol/ will praise this as a great way to remove degeneracy but conveniently forgets he's an advocate for Islam, and shouts Allahu Akbar at rallies
>>79562827
>Kill the little girl and put her into a garbage bag with cinderblocks and throw her in the ocean at least a few miles out.
this is quite risky
the high risk might just be enough for addicts to quit their vice once and for all
more importantly though, it's such a harsh climate that new users will not want to touch the stuff
>>79562423
It destroys the youth, senpai
>>79562858
They are doing it BETTER than the country ever did in the past, so I'm satisfied.
It's just that the media always spins it like what they do to nigger criminals in the US. Muh human rights and what if dindu nuffin.
>>79563726
thats why hes doing this imo it certainly helps their cause
>>79563224
The problem was destroyed lives as well, not just criminal dealers.
Legalizing drugs doesn't solve this problem.
>>79561071
you see they are scared, and many of them already surrendered to the cops, and agreed to be sent to the rehab or tell to the cops some info in exchange of not pressing charges against them.
>>79562858
>So overall you approve of the way this is being handled or if not do you think there are ways it could be improved?
the cops should focus on the multimillionaire drug lords and lab owners, they control the supply of drugs in the country, they are the ones who should be killed (extra-judicially, because the courts are easy to threaten and bribed) and not the pleb dealers who can easily be replaced.
>>79563224
are you stupid or what, you want us to be like motherfucking early 20th century china, where a lot of people spend all day in drug dens hitting all the shit they want then dying on the streets because of OD? it will reduce the productivity of the country.
>>79561071
The best way is to destroy USA and the Brits, they love using drugs to subdue countries where they don't wanna have a war(yet).
But hey
For crack and heroin dealers, maybe. Anything else is a victimless crime.
Soft drugs like adderall saved my life.
>>79564063
good luck with that theres a reason we have so many bases around the world
its to make sure you cucks cant do shit
>>79561071
cops didn't killed chinky, batman killed him, OK?
Legalize it so it's not in the hands of organized crime and addicts can seek treatment.
>>79561071
>Trudeau claims killing your enemies means they win
>based flip making Leaf leader look like a fag
>>79563867
An addict doesn't think like that.
An addict would kill the little girl because they are the kind of people to make rash decisions. He's not going to think "oh no this event completely changed my view of life" he's going to think "I have to kill that little girl because its either me or her."
>>79563230
Dopamine deficiency is a real issue, most often caused by shitty parenting and abusive childhoods. Third world parenting isn't known for its child-friendly approach either.
>>79564194
Anon adderall is amphetamine.
>>79564282
you don't need to legalize drugs to accept drug users. if they have no drugs on them and don't plan on getting more, almost nowhere will they be turned down.
>>79564373
It's not neurotoxic though.
>>79564373
amphet is a soft drug senpai. Its not neurotoxic like meth.
>>79564318
You seem to think it's hard to make him look like a fag.
>>79564441
>>79564498
it is neurotoxic it just is way less harmful than meth
RODRIGO "EL MUERTE" DUTERTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XqyGoE2Q4Y#t=4m20s
Well now if I were the president of this land
You know I'd declare total war on the pusher man.
I'd cut him if he stands, and I'd shoot him if he run,
And I'd kill him with my bible, and my razor and my gun....
GOD DAMN! The pusher
God damn the pusher.
I said God damn! God damn the pusher man!
>>79561071
Has B-Ko been informed?
>>79564645
Replace bible with Koran
>>79561519
>As long as addicts exist
yes that is acknowledged, that is why they will also be killed
>>79563867
Harsh punishment doesn't really deter the crime it deters getting caught. Having ANY punishment at all deters the crime for as many people as can be deterred by the law already.
People don't decide whether or not to buy drugs based on how long the prison sentence is or if they'll get executed for it, they decide based on their chances of being caught. They may take other precautions based on the severity of the consequences but those other precautions never include "just don't do it"
Like you might only buy from someone you know and trust, you might only sell to people you know or trust or maybe their friends if they can be vouched for and are in their company.
If the law is stricter, the dealer, having more risk, probably has a gun on him and if a customer seems like they might be a Narc... they might wind up dead, that's as it is now with mandatory minimum sentences that can include life imprisonment depending on how much dope you're trafficking.
Like, when I've bought from street level dealers/friends, they never had guns or extra people with guns around them, because their risk was lower. If they get caught, okay maybe they'll do a year, it's not worth killing someone to avoid getting caught over that.
But when I've been around mid level dealers to buy from them directly, and I mean they have more selection, more quantity, etc..
They were always armed, always, and there was usually at least one other person with a gun in plain sight in their house while I was buying.
If I'd have said the wrong thing, I'd probably have gotten killed, even though I was with a mutual friend of ours and he was vouching for me.
Because the amount of drugs this guy had on him, would be a life imprisonment mandatory minimum sentence. So what's the difference if he gets caught for a murder as well. Same shit, he'll die in a prison sooner or later.
>>79561071
>Trump of the East
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tebans1dOYo
based
>>79561519
Absolutely not. Addicts relapse frequently and there's a sucker born every minute as far as drugs go. You can't beat them by focusing just on treating their customers. The 1st offense of possession with intent to sell dealing should result in crucifixion along our highways like in Spartacus
I've lost friends to drugs. I don't want any mercy for the people who supply this poison.
>>79561071
>Is this the most effective way to combat the drug problem?
The most effective? Yes
Moral? Not by my standards
>>79565004
He's not trump, he's an alpha bernie
>>79561071
You're attacking the symptoms and not the cause. First you have to figure out WHY your people are turning to substances
Make it impossible for them to drug up and they'll drink. Outlaw that and they'll eat, fuck, game, and skydive themselves to death.
>>79564498
lol yes it is. All amphetamines inevitably cause stimulant psychosis
>>79563867
Addicts will start killing back.
They're just going to create some truly hardened monsters over there.
Depending on how much money they are losing from this, the cartels will probably start funding militant groups over there and start kidnapping the families of important people.
It will be interesting to see how this turns out.
>>79564632
>>79565396
Source?
>>79565074
The countrys that have done the best with reducing addiction rates have actually focused on making drug addiction a public health issue rather than a criminal justice issue and have put their resources towards treatment and undermining the DEMAND side of the equation.
Countries with absolute failures of drug policies like the US have focused on trying to eliminate the SUPPLY side of the equation. It doesn't work, it's extremely violent and breeds even more violence.
Then there's disasters of drug policy that border on barbarism which is East Asia's route "just kill everyone connected to any drug crime"
People think that'll transition well in the US.
Yes, yes we can just execute 40-50 million Americans for smoking weed.
Do you have any idea how retarded that is from a logistics standpoint?
>>79565538
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/289973-overview
>Either prescription or illegally manufactured amphetamines can induce these disorders
>>79561071
stoopid
Both:
1) Heavily tax, but decriminalize and control the use of some 'soft/therapeutic' drugs.
2) Increase enforcement and penalties of people abusing drugs and people in the creation/distribution of illegal/banned drugs.
>>79561496
Thought the same, Nippon bro.
>>79565576
making the supply more difficult can help, but not alone. the most important benefit about reducing the supply is cutting out the drugs from public visibility and in turn stripping the social 'authorization' from drugs (pretty much what they're slowly doing with tobacco).
It's true that if the limitation is too severe and people don't accept it, they'll work around it.
>>79565673
Wikipedia also has 3 sources for it in their psychological section if you check out their reference list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphetamine#Psychological
>Amphetamine psychosis (e.g., delusions and paranoia) can occur in heavy users
>>79565538
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2670101/
dont take more than it says on the bottle and dont take it for your whole life and you should be ok
the doses you get are very small compared to the doses somebody highly addicted to amphetamine would be
>>79564210
The reason is drugs distributing, warmongering and overall cancer spread.
>>79561071
>summarily executing drug dealers and users
I'm for it. A policy like this would probably eliminate like 90% of the homeless camps in Portland overnight.
>>79565576
Actually no, you are wrong. The countries with the best drug statistics are Asiatic and have extremely harsh punishment for drugs.
Japan, Korea, Singapore, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE have little to no addicts.
And no, you don't kill the 40 million users or more. You introduce harsher and harsher laws, little by little. At first it's death for the big time dealers. Then for the street dealers and prison time for users. Then a long time in prison for users.
Since the US is rapidly becoming more liberal with drug use and drug punishments I think we are in for some hard times.
>>79563430
>Autism
>Legit
If I didn't actually have it too, I'd make fun of you for it. I think I will anyway.
today drug pushers, tomorrow, who knows. Durante is a nazi.
>>79561071
>>>
>>79567715
You literally described the US Drug War, minus death for dealers. It's a waste of taxpayer money and gets nothing accomplished.
>>79568592
Maybe that's the problem then?
Also the death penalty in America is very inefficient. In other countries like Singapore the execution comes much sooner than in the US.
>>79561071
Dont do drugs
Become drugs
>>79561519
>>This problem is best and most effectively addressed on the demand side
kill the addicts too then
>>79569229
>>79568592
actually we do have a death penalty in place that can be used for high level drug traffickers. It hasn't been used I don't think though, most the people who would qualify for it die before being taken into custody.
... Because even life imprisonment is enough of a threat that they don't want to be caught, even if they die fighting.
All of these nigger junkies saying "Just legalize drugs! Problem solved." You seem to forget that legalization needs regulation , and regulation is currently impossible to do in the philippines .
>>79564670
This is a stupid joke.
>>79570923
Only a few drugs should be legalized. Marijuana, and MAYBE mushrooms.
I think that about sums it up.
People don't get addicted to psilocybin mushrooms, and as it is, people already sell magic truffles and shit because of legal loopholes. It's pretty much impossible to ban all forms of the mushrooms because they grow wild ubiquitously.. and well.. the harm they cause is relatively minor. Probably more people die from ingesting the wrong mushrooms when looking for wild mushrooms than will ever die from actual psilocybin.
>>79561071
Haven't China and other Asian countries been doing this for decades?
>>79561071
nah this idiot just basically started Mexico 2.0
that's how Mexico began their head chopping campaign, soon people will be desensitized and will see murder as an option to any conflict, price of drugs will go through the roof making it super profitable despite the risk and drug dealers will retaliate towards snitches.
I could be wrong cuz this is a island which makes it more difficult for criminals to get guns but if the Russian or Chinese mafia wants to make an easy and huge sum of green they'll simply start a civil war
>>79561519
Euthanizing them solves the problem 100% of the time, guaranteed...
>>79571804
Well, the only difference between mexico/US and those East Asian Islands is well.. they're islands. it's a lot easier for islands to control smuggling in the first place. People point out low incidences of gun possession or drug trafficking in pacific island nations and it's kind of a "no shit". They don't share huge borders with anyone, it's easier to control what comes in and out of their country.
What works for them, what works for Britain on gun control, will never ever work in the the US. Ever.
>wall
Cartels in Mexico already use catapults and the like to launch bundles of drugs over the fence. A wall won't help.
This is only a solution in societies with very weak rule of law, corrupt courts and so on.
Duterte cannot count on his own judicial system to actually handle the problem, so he is resorting to a military solution instead.
>>79561496
Why else did we click on the thread?
Just lace them with fentanyl and watch them drop.
Based batman.
>>79561496
>>79561071
>bat symbol on sign
>Trump told a child that he was batman
coincidence?
>>79561071
batman?
>>79561519
>people will attempt to profit regardless of the consequences.
Yeah but if the consequences is getting your head blown the fuck off courtesy of the state, a lot less people are going to be willing to take the risk.
>>79571804
the phillipenes has one of the largest and most skilled illegal firearms manufacturing cliques in the world, only rivaled by that in afghanistan and other 3rd world countries.
They became so good legal companies bought up the best gun smiths they could and they work legit.
That is how flourishing the industry is there, people stand at 7-11 with a sub-machine gun day and night as guard duty.
>>79561071
600% BASED
>>79568592
The difference is that the US doesn't kill anyone like China or Singapore does.
>>79562827
This anon understands economics. Smart anon.
>>79577006
>batman
i hope the government would really support the backyard manufactures
they are really skilled even they didn't went to college or went to any formal gunsmithing school, they are even able to produce exact copies of FN shit in their workshops.
should torture them before killing to make more of an example to be frank
>>79561496
Fapping now
tfw Malaysia has elected a /pol government
>>79563230
That's what a fucking addict is.
PLS HELP US PHILIPPINES
>>79561071
Godspeed based Chink
>>79561071
/pol/ praises this without question as perfect then professes to be christian
ahahahahahahaaa
>>79561071
>the degeneracy that is substance abuse
Fuck due process.
Let's just incite mass murder among a population. Kill anyone you don't like, tell the authorities (if you're caught) that you're sure they use drugs.
Police shrug and walk away. Can't be helped. Case closed. Just obeying orders.
What could possibly go wrong?
/pol/ will defend this.
the only way to stop drugs is to stop humans from being inclined to drug use
couple hundred thousand years late for that
you would have to figure out a way to make people stop wanting escapism in their lives
>>79561071
Punish the drug users.
Kill drug sellers, not penalize them.
But it wont happen because liberals and muh human rights.
>>79562726
Drug addicts actually. Kill the supply and the demand.
>>79562432
hardly, they're the rodent infestation of the south pacific and they smell like mildew
>>79562874
So turn em into pharmaceutical companies and tax the shit out of em.
>>79579222
>due process
>in a 3rd world shithole
>where judges and cops get payed off daily
Kill yourself my man
>>79563230
You don't say.
>>79565576
>
Yea probably but hey at least it would cut down our nigger problem.
>>79565074
Sounds like you're just blaming your friends' lack of self control and personal responsibility on other people.
>>79561071
>Is this the most effective way to deal with the degeneracy that is substance abuse?
London won't like it
Nothng works against cartels
>>79563224
your idea would work but there is no profit in it, make trade less profitable, offer cheap doses of lethal potency, eugenics drugs policy
>>79565576
>Countries with absolute failures of drug policies like the US
our drug policy is a huge success, it's very profitable and affords cast controls over segments of the society
>>79581219
>very profitable
For politicians only tho
>>79581080
Central and South American cartels are trained and equipped by the CIA so yeah. Also it's a lot easier to smuggle guns into countries like Mexico than to an island nation.
>>79581080
if you execute every single cartel officer, enforcer, worker, and hanger-on I'm sure you'll start getting somewhere.
Dueterte says he will top any bounties place on him.
Last I heard there was a $9 million bounty on him so he counter offered a $10 million bounty on that dude.
>tfw flying to phillopines so i can become the irl punisher
Fucking based. Kill them all; if there's one thing that stops crimes is the fear of death.
