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Communism is better than capitalism, capitalism is the cancer destroying our planet

you cant refute this im sorry
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>>79522929
They're both fucking cancer
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>>79523010
confirm
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Well you know,

Communism may have destroyed countries

But capitalism destroyed the white race.

You just can't argue that
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>>79522929

If communism is better then paypal everyone on /pol/ a 100 dollars right now or you are talking shit.
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>>79522929
Sweden, posting shitty bait from his cuck shed. Don't you have a wife getting fucked by Tyrone to worry about?
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>>79523114
Yes OP, actually I'm poor. Send me some shekels via paypal
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>>79523114
eat poop RIGHT NOW or you are talking shit

ya nice argument

>>79523010
well we can and should do better than capitalism

>>79523076
capitalism has killed way more people that communism if thats what you are asking, also capitalism has served white people very well, do you think that it is a coincident that rich people are white?
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>>79523290
>Flag
>actually I'm poor
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>>79523174
HAHAH UR A KEK OMG THIS IS SO FUNNY HAHAH KEKKEKCUKC

go to bed you 10 year old
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Communism is worse then facism and it promotes anti white racism. Women shouldn't be allowed to vote and welfare should be cut to prevent genetically inferior people from raising packs of criminals like Mike brown or Freddie gray.
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>>79523467
there is no such thing as racism against white people
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>>79523395
I think you should go to bed, but muhammad is likely still with your wife. Maybe be a good little cuck and lick up his potent seed after he pumps it into your wife's pussy?
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>>79523547
>SVEN
>V
>E
>N

>YES
>E
>S
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Yes there is most racism is anti white. Anti black "racism" is reactionary to niggers low Iqs and embrace of thug culture. Also Bolsheviks were almost all Jews initially and the holohoax was exaggerated.
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>>79523332

COMMUNISM IS ALL ABOUT EQUAL DISTRIBUTION

PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH SVEN OR YOUR TALKING SHIT AS USUAL LIKE ALL BRAIN DAMAGED SWEDES XD
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Sounds like OP needs a Pinochet helicopter ride. Don't worry, we'll pick up the tab
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Racism can only exist between equals.
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>>79522929
Communism, where people are all completley equal and people work for society rather than for themselves would be a good system, but it's one that is impossible to achieve because communism is an ideal to took to for guidence, but in practice is impossible. It's obvious that under a good socialist government where people couldn't soak up more resources than they can use hording them for themselves would be a better society than we have now, but the rich have power and will not let it go easily like through politics. Socialism where people are forced to work together would be much better for all society in the long run but we can never get there if we don't fight for it. Even with impactfull events like the Brexit happening most leftists are still doing nothing and many are claiming they're just waiting for the right time as an excuse for their lazyness. We need to actually take action and that means more than just posting viral images constantly on sites very few people use, it means being involved with actual labor movments and people who are fighting capitalism.
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>>79522929
>Sweedecuck
why am I not surprised?
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>>79523359
The politicians steal the money and no jobs around. We're fucked. Need shekels to purchase a new computer and work as a freelancer
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>>79522929
If we cannot refuse it then it is not scientific. Hence it belongs in the realm of fairytales.
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>>79523644
The goal of socialism is for the means of production to be in the hands of the public, i.e. you're entitled to the actual value of your labor, if you make a good part of somthing that's sold for $200 you deserve a porportional wage, not being payed cents on the dollar while the owner who does nothing reaps most of the reward.
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>it's only communism if it works
Communism, the one human invention that always works with a 100% success rate.
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>>79523644
no its not about equal distribution lol, turn that caps lock off

>>79523742
as much as revolution is the way to take the power from the rich (yes, a violently armed revolution) the masses need to be educated and while most people will not know of or even heard of dialectic materialism it doesnt matter, its very basic, the workers are being fucked by the rich

>>97523757
well mabey its because im not brainwashed by capitalist media all my life
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>>79523973

Enforced by who?

Exacatly communists are just as corrupt as capitalists.

The fact sven is so relecuant to part with his money as well to his fellow workers to show us all how great communism really is shows he's really a capitalist at heart too.
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>>79523869
you have to understand, its not the politicians fault, they have no choice in their actions, its the bourgeois and the capitalist system, the politicians are only puppets
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Before:

Hey guise we'll give you money equal to your labour down with the man!!!!!!!!!

After:

Ummmm I don't remember saying that, anyway what are you going to do about it peasent, off to the work camps for you.

T. Communism & Uncle Stalin
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>>79524357
Ehmmm...
We live in a socialist government like Venezuela
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>>79522929
>Communism is better than capitalism, capitalism is the cancer destroying our planet


OP is correct, as evidenced by all the successful nations practicing communism in the world. Let's name them here so we can show joy in knowledge.

I'll start:

1. Ummmm.......
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>>79524510
define socialism and then declare if venezuela is socialist or not
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>>79524276
Any police force will be owned by whoever has the power, for the people to be free they need to be able to protect themselves. Having an armed society is the only way to ensure that the people have power. If someone wants to revert to capitalism and start taking from the people at a factory or whatever the people will have to stop that themselves. There will always be people fucked over under any system, we can only hope to make that amount of people smaller under a socialist system where people are given more rights.
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>>79523332
The only thing that has killed more people than communism is disease. Doing a quick search on how many people have died under capitalism and the only thing that comes up is a reddit thread that is full of shit. They even blame the Irish potato famine on capitalism and not a fungus.
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>>79524766
in communism the bourgeois gets fucked over (also the fascists)
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>>79523675
>you will never be the guy to push socialists out of the helicopters
Why even live?
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>>79522929

They're both shit. Try the fourth way, OP.
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>>79524685
Fuck you and fuck communism

/thread
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>>79523603
Why are you being such a bitter fuckstain?
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My country was ruined by lefties. I wish people in 1st world who support communism would die.
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The problem with communism is that it was never a real ideology intended to be implemented.

It's a bunch of utopian pipe dreams whose only purpose is to manipulate useful idiots in getting rid of the current power structure, so a new one can take control.
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>>79523547
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>>79522929
Communism is a natural reaction to out of control capitalism.
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>>79523547
It's too early to be drunk Sven
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>"the means of production must belong to workers, and for a short transition period, the vanguard party (state) will take the means of production from capitalists"
>revolution
>can we have the means of production now? t. worker
>"no"
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>>79527780

I don't even get how exactly the state would grant the workers the means of production and who would keep said workers from getting on top and keep it that way
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>>79526787
Why even live if you think Pinochet was anything other than an economic failure and a coward? He is a sad excuse of a human and an even sadder excuse of a man.
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>>79523547
Oh sven, you poor sheltered fuck
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>>79523742
"Force" people to work together…
"Makes" society "better"…..

Whatever "better" is…

You're lost and very naive
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>>79522929

>capitalism is the cancer destroying our planet

Oh really? I thought all this thrash in the streets of Maracaibo was all thanks to the inefficiency of a commun- oh I mean socialist government...

So at last I truly see. Thanks Sven.
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>>79522929

I agree, communism is much better at destroying the planet.
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>>79522929
Judeo Communism and Judeo Capitalism are two sides of the same shekel.

If you choose one side or the other, you're still choosing the Jew.
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>>79522929

China is the cancer destroying our planet. They are Communist.
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>>79525104
>in communism the bourgeois gets fucked over (also the fascists)
There is literally nothing wrong with fascism.
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>>79530312
>Jews are the cancer destroying our planet. They created Communism.
FTFY.
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>>79530333
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"Better" in what sense?
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>>79530441
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>>79522929
fucking swedish autist

free market rape your edgy communist fairytales
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Capitalism brings the most economic prosperity to people. Nearly everyone can afford food, housing, a TV/phone/computer.
Under communism you may have money, but you don't have much to spend it on.
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>>79523114
Not an argument.
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>>79523395
HAHAHAHAHA FUCKING EPICCCC MAN XDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!11111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>79523675
ebin XD
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>>79530333
>>79530441
>>79530528

Well what is the truth then?
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>>79532142
>Well what is the truth then?
Fascism/National Socialism is the truth.
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>>79522929
Tax is theft
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>>79532142
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>>79522929
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I heard communism is good for the environment, is this true?
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>>79532142
and one more...
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>>79522929
>Communism may have destroyed countries

The US is one of the least socialist and communist nations in the developed world, and yet the propaganda ministry is still terrifying the feeble-minded right with spectres of "communism" and "socialism".
It would be hilarious if they weren't all actually falling for it.
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>>79532575
>anyone who protests capitalism MUST want to be literally the USSR 2.0
ebin strawman
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nice meme
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>>79523114
Communism is about the workers control of the means of production, it's not about letting hobos into your house you fucking retard
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>>79523742
If you "force" people to work together instead of having them naturally come together, you get the opposite results.
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>>79523547
YES
YES
YES
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>>79533008
>Communism is about the jews control of the means of production and about letting jews into your mind
FTFY
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>>79523332
>identity politics

You are just a liberal calling yourself a commie, racism against whites is still racism

Kys
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>>79533216
nice strawman
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if you people tried spouting this bullshit in an actual post-communist country you would lose your teeth
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>>79533269
>nice strawman
Socialism and thus Communism is Jewish.

Marx was a Jew.
Trotsky was a Jew.
Lenin was a Jew.
Stalin was surrounded by Jews.
The first Soviet government was mostly Jewish.
Anti-Semitism was a crime punishable by death in the USSR.
The Soviets razed Churches and spared Synagogues.

Socialism/Communism is Jewish.
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>>79533494
The funny thing is that millions of former Soviets and Yugoslavs are nostalgic for the old days.
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>m-m-muh climate!

It has been reported in the press many times that the issue of pollution is to be the next big crusade of the New Left activists, after the war in Vietnam peters out. And just as peace was not their goal or motive in that crusade, so clean air is not their goal or motive in this one.

If, after the failure of such accusations as “Capitalism leads you to the poorhouse” and “Capitalism leads you to war,” the New Left is left with nothing better than: “Capitalism defiles the beauty of your countryside,” one may justifiably conclude that, as an intellectual power, the collectivist movement is through.

City smog and filthy rivers are not good for men (though they are not the kind of danger that the ecological panic-mongers proclaim them to be). This is a scientific, technological problem—not a political one—and it can be solved only by technology. Even if smog were a risk to human life, we must remember that life in nature, without technology, is wholesale death.
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People are all equal, on the same level (as dirt)
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>>79523547
t. Clock-boy Ahmed
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>>79533216

>Communism is about the jews control of the means of production

That would be zionism, basically white supremacy with jews, all zionists will be shot in the revolution don't worry about that

>letting jews into your mind

When will your fucking paranoia end?
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>>79522929
>sweden
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>>79523742
Yes it could work only in a country where everyone will work. But that's not achievable currently in many countries due to (NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSS).
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>>79533805
>That would be zionism, basically white supremacy with jews,
And since Communism is Jewish it still fits.

>all zionists will be shot in the revolution don't worry about that
And yet you'll allow the Jews and other non-Whites to remain in White countries?

>When will your fucking paranoia end?
It's not paranoia if it's the truth.
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>>79523547
>>79522929
Kids back in the day at least were original when trying to troll ppl.
You are just a stereotypical cuckshed owner.
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>>79522929
>capitalism is the cancer destroying our planet

Stop. The only country that has anything even remotely close to capitalism is fucking Switzerland.
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>>79533513
Marx had Jewish roots but was born into a Lutheran family and became atheist. He, Trotsky, Lenin, and many others were internationalists that weren't too keen on ethnocentrism. Stalin and the early USSR had some Jews but many of them were killed between 1934-53. Antisemitism was not a capital crime in the USSR. The government had some rather Antisemitic policies, especially in Stalin's and Brezhnev's regimes. Synagogues weren't spared any more than churches. I know Jews that visited the USSR many times in Brezhnev's reign, and they had to take measures to hide their religious texts from customs authorities.
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>>79534062
What's worse, there are actually people posting on /pol/ who believe that shit.
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>>79522929
Yeah, there are plenty of examples of successful currently existing communist countries, right?

Can't wait to go on vacation to North Korea and Venezuela!
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>>79534168
A fucking mobster bro, Get yourself a tan and start saying "Gringo" And I swear, Manuel, This time you'll get Texas.
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>MFW i see anti-marxist anti-russian propaganda everywhere
good job
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>>79534283
Heck, Atleast North Korea don't get shitskins, We should go exile over there in a bunch.
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>>79522929
It's the only political theory that proposes true freedom for every human regardless of gender, race and a truly stateless society.

Therefore communism cucks even lolbertarians and ancaps. All you other BTFO.
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>>79524144
This.
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I'm shocked the Spongebob gif hasn't being posted yet
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>>79534396
That, Along with Death.
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>muh only my specific form of communism is the real communism.

That this meme ideology did not die yet is a mystery to me.
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>>79534477
because no one is saying that venezuela is not real socialism
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>>79522929
>capitalism is the cancer destroying our planet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea
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>>79534526
>he does not know that the idiots who say ""that's not real kommunizm" are labeled as trotskyists
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>>79534339
>Update] [Auto]
Can you please explain the Simpsons smoking weed meme? I see it on /sp/ all the time.
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>>79522929
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>>79522929

Communism isn't a real philosophy. It's a Jewish rhetorical construction meant to create goy bloodbaths and concentrate power in Jewish hands.
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>>79534535
See Sven
>>79524685
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>>79534642
he is baiting you
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>>79534684
I know.
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>>79534196
>Marx had Jewish roots
Karl Marx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx#Childhood_and_early_education:_1818.E2.80.931835
>Ancestrally Ashkenazi Jewish, his maternal grandfather was a Dutch rabbi, while his paternal line had supplied Trier's rabbis since 1723, a role taken by his grandfather Meier Halevi Marx.

>was born into a Lutheran family and became atheist
Jews are a Race, Genes Reveal
http://forward.com/articles/155742/jews-are-a-race-genes-reveal/?p=all

>He, Trotsky, Lenin, and many others were internationalists that weren't too keen on ethnocentrism.
Leon Trotsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trotski#Childhood_and_family_.281879.E2.80.931895.29
>He was the fifth child of eight of well-to-do Jewish farmers, David Leontyevich Bronshtein and his wife Anna Bronshtein. The family was Jewish but reportedly not religious.

Vladimir Lenin Was Part Jewish, Say Declassified KGB Files
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2077413,00.html
>Stalin and the early USSR had some Jews
Stalin's Jews
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

Stalin's Willing Executioners: Jews as a Hostile Elite in the USSR
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/SlezkineRev.pdf

>Antisemitism was not a capital crime in the USSR.
Anti-Semitism
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm
>In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.

>Synagogues weren't spared any more than churches.
Soviets Razed Churches, Spared Synagogues
http://henrymakow.com/001913.html

>I know Jews that visited the USSR many times in Brezhnev's reign, and they had to take measures to hide their religious texts from customs authorities.
List of Communist Jews
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of_communist_Jews
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>>79534787
(((shut it down)))
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then go join a commune
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>>79534893
>(((shut it down)))
Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oIeYoF1VhHc

Soviet People By Ethnic or National Origin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Soviet_people_by_ethnic_or_national_origin

Judaic Communists: The Documentary Record
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/communist.html

Jewish Bolshevism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism

Jewish Pre-Eminence in the Political Left/Communism
http://www.holywar.org/jewishtr/commun.htm

The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia's Early Soviet Regime
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html

Jewish Activists Created Communism
http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/jewishactivistscommunism.html

Jews and Bolshevism
http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/bolshies.html

Jewish Communists
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-communists.html

Jewish Founders of International Communism for the One World Order
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-communists-founders.html

Jews and Marxism - Socialism - Communism
http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt11.html

Communism and the Jews
http://volokh.com/2011/10/29/communism-and-the-jews/

Communism was Jewish - Communism is Jewish
http://www.controversyofzion.info/communism_was_jewish.htm
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Let's list shitty communist countries or attempts:

>The Soviet Union, all of its 15 member states
>China (prospered due to capitalism and basically facism in a red coat).
>Cuba
>North Korea
>A lot of shitty african countries
>Indonesia (started out as shitty communist state).
>DDR
>Venezuela
>Vietnam
>Laos

>Inb4 >>79534526
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>>79522929
Not an argument.
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>>79534611
Still a over used non argument to promote communitarian belief. Which are cancer.
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>>79534393

Not really. In theory communism proposes true equality.
in practice it isn't so.
whereas your stateless one work too, in theory, but in practice factions will be formed to enslave other tribes. And as such, like communism this idea of absolute equality will fail in practice.
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>>79522929
>Written via iPhone
Then why are you living in a country driven by capitalism instead of communism?
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>>79523547
>a fucking swede
Kys plz
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Why is communism such as normalfag system? What if I don't want to work? Why should I care about the proletariat? Why should I slave away to fund cunts and free abortions?
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>>79522929
The reality of Communism is chavs/bogans/white trash/niggers/your local under class etc. being given permission to bust into your middle class home, beat you up and steal all your stuff, because you are a traitor to the people.
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>>79535388
>libertarian socialism

How does that even work? Sounds like a contradictio in terminis.
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the UK and the US are the biggest anti-leftists countries ever
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>>79535787
This and corruption/nepotism are the great flawes of communism. Oh and the fact that the fool Marx thought history was deterministic.
Kek.
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>>79522929
Well this is true, being as communism never produced anything and capitalism produces enough for everyone to be comfortable.
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>>79522929
Go home jamal
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>communism never produced anything
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>>79522929
communism thinks equality is fated, which is its weakest point.

anybody who thinks communism is retarded is probably fucked up in the head, like fell down the stairs as a child fucked up.
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>>79535833
The (working) population owns the fields/farms/factories/businesses in which they work, and the government doesn't infringe on everyone's civil liberties.
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>>79522929
Capitalists are scum although the natural rights of men to trade and such can not be infringed.
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>>79536410
>The (working) population owns the fields/farms/factories/businesses in which they work, and the government doesn't infringe on everyone's civil liberties

This is a paradox.
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>>79534623
This is such a shitty pic. Kill yourself.
>Socialism
>work in a factory
>get nothing
>wait in a line to get nothing
>starve to death

>capitalism
>some work in a factory
>they get paid
>the pay is good enough to afford latest technology, enough food to get fat as fuck and more entertainment than sci-fi writers of the past could ever imagine
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>>79536086
Even in the utopian communal end goal of communism, it would be insanely nepotistic. Everything governed by personal/social relationships. Being expected to work and socialise lest you be "alienated". Sounds like a fucking nightmare.
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>>79536550
How so?
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>>79536563
>a baltic country
every fucking time
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>>79536666
if you're owning all the farms you work at, that's private property.

If you want everyone to own their own bit of land, you'd need a government willing to use eminent domain to redistribute all the land and resources by force, which is an infringement on civil liberties.
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>>79522929
You certainly are.
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>>79536666
If someone decides he or she wants to own the means of production because he/she has a good idea and can run the business at a far more efficient rate due to modern accounting and finance techniques and the govenment takes it away because it does not go with the socialistic side, it infringes on the individual civil liberties.

One cannot have both socialism and libertarianism at the same time. They are completely different ideologies. In the end it is not about left vs right. It is about freedom vs authority.
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Get rid of corporate welfare and lobbying, and things will improve.
Capitalism doesn't work when the game is rigged against the little guys. It's not even capitalism at that point, just a big boys club.
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after watching this propaganda, now i understand why people believe that communism is government
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s46UK5MXERA&feature=youtu.be
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>>79536771
The lands/factories aren't owned by an individual or cadre that bosses around those who work there. The ones who work there are their own bosses and managers, and they hold the capital goods in common.
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>>79536648
Yes. Everyday life would be goverened by populistic ideals. One critical thought and you would be marked as a social pariah. Like in every absolute ideology.
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>>79536914
That is what we call an oligarchy. People often confuse capitalism with that.
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>>79536914
>>79537081
>that's not real capitalism i swear!!1
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>>79536902
The government wouldn't take it away just like that. The business would just be run democratically by those that work there. In libertarian socialism, bosses that avoid this model or mistreat their workers would probably just be socially shunned.
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>>79536725
>A country that actually experienced communism at first hand and makes a good point and a meme poor fag country trying to refute it with a meme argument

Every fucking time.
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>>79522929
Communism is a parasite that cannot survive without mooching off of capitalism.

Sorry faggot but it's true.
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>>79537168
>Implying this is on the same level of muh not my form of communism
>Implying this is not happening in COMMUNIST China

Kek, poor fag, get lost.
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>>79522929

How about this system.

Capitalist free market but the richer you are the less time you live.
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>>79522929
Can somebody still be a racist and a communist? Could separatism be possible with communism?
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>>79522929
leninism > stalinism
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>>79523332
Oh well i'm white so I guess capitalism is a good thing.
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>>79537190
How can you guarantee that?

Also, even if they were socially shunned that would be an indirect tyranny of the masses, even more so than with democracy. Sounds like a fucking nightmare to me. A nightmare were efficiency, effectiveness and facts do not matter because the entire state and ideal is run on a fallacy; argumentum ad populum. A state in which meritocracy is not only pursued (as it should), but even shunned as nobody checks the workers productivity as they are the owners and therefore will pursue their own political agenda and that creates conflicts of interests.

Also, what right do the workers have to co own a company someone else, who has highter intelligence, more ambition and will power and put in more time to start it all, started?

Nah, mate, this is shite.
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Does anyone know if there's a documentary similar to "The Greatest Story Never Told" from teh Soviet POV?
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>>79522929

Shut up, Sweden..
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>>79538003

Just go to an American college.
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>>79536962
So they wouldn't be allowed to elect the best among them as supervisors or managers? The government would have to enforce that, no?
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>>79538433

Aw, snap! Shots fired!
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>>79538436
The best of the nation rises the ranks, the majority of the leadership of the party were regular gifted people of the race, no pertains to meaningless temporal "classes" and more to the eternal.
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Nope communism killed 90000000000000000 peoples
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>>79522929
Can you prove this I'm sorry
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>>79537013
Communism is the ultimate populist ideology. If you don't have social skills and charisma, you're fucked.
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>>79522929
History does a better job of refuting this, than any pol shitpost ever could.
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US propaganda does not account as history
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>>79523114
Communism is about giving and taking, not only giving. But I'm not going to support this as it doesn't fucking work.

Same with capitalism, it sounds good but people start to think about power and as money = power, the governments start to become corrupt as fuck.

It is the task for these generations to come up with something better than both as they both dont fucking work
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>>79541124
I got the answer: Nativistic classical liberalism with incooporation of John Nash's game theory.
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>>79522929
>you can't refute this

Well shit guys, looks like he won.
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Communism is extremely inefficient and driven by empathy and Utopianism.

Communism in practice (socialism) requires a state, and as socialism it is also a titanic failure due to inefficiency.

The only benefit of socialism/central planning is the fact that central planning has a greater efficiency when it comes to singular objectives such as industrialization/automation etc.

Capitalism has sustainable and ultimately perpetual growth but no real method of doing large singular tasks as a unified force without many suffering losses and being hurt in the middle.

The answer is Fascist Corporatism. Corporatism does not refer to corporations, but to national syndicates which unite the business owners and workers of each trade/profession/etc together. By being ran by the state these corporate syndicates are able to give the most efficient industrial policies and are able to find the true minimum amount of regulations needed to maximize the profits of the nation and its people.

Fascist corporatism has both the perpetual growth of capitalism and the ability to efficiently do singular objectives such as industrialization.

Within the nation, the economy functions as hayekian capitalism should. With minimal regulation and full on competition.

On a global scale however, the economy is protected from globalist interests and the workers, business owners and state are protected.

Fascism is the only thing which can overcome those twin Devils called capitalism and communism.

It is the only system which seeks maximum efficiency for the nation's sake.
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>>79541124

Again, Fascism is the answer. We can combine the economic protection of the people with the capitalistic economic policies in a regulated/controlled environment to maximize profits for the entire nation. At the expense of every other nation of course.
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>>79537468
Hail. The left in quebec are the ones who are Separatists.
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cant refute this, well ok i will go home.
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>>79543447

Do you have any argument against Corporatism(effectively advanced guildism) ?
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>>79532803

look at the original post you fucking idiot

that is literally the explicit purpose of this thread
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Communism requires people to comply to a lot of things. This means A: everyone need to accede to what is "best for the people" willingly or B: laws need to be implemented to force them to do so.

In situation A somebody will inevitably not comply with the ideals of communism (greed is part of human nature) and nobody can realistically do anything about it short of killing him.

In situation B you have North Korea, the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China
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>>79544376
I like situation B
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>>79544376
Situation B is for bitter wagecucks.
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>>79527120

oh great, what is this thread, cuck faggots anonymous? of course it'd be australia though, "asians" fucking your girl right now too m80?
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>>79527259
OP is from Sweden, bro. His country is already dying anyway. Comunism will just make the downfall faster.
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>>79535388
You are forgeting about the piles and piles of dead innocent people all those "democratic" government left behind then.
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>>79537781
kek

I always find it funny when people complain about "privilege". I mean, supposedly I'm privileged as a white man despite being a lonely poorfag. But even so, why should anyone give up their "privilege"?
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Dumb frogposter
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>>79546957
build wall
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>>79522929
Rapefugee land thinking communism works.
Your country is the liberal arts campus of the world
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>>79523332
>capitalism has killed way more people that communism if thats what you are asking

Prove it faggot. Communism is sitting just below Islam for most deaths thanks to a stupid semitic ideology.

Capitalism has pulled more people out of poverty than anything else on this earth, it just needs to have the understanding built in that when one corporation gets too large and too powerful it needs to be broken up it also needs to be isolated from being able to purchase political will. That is supposed to be left to the people.
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>>79522929
>capitalism is cancer

all forms of capitalism are currently being overrun by socialist policies. The process of turning a capitalist society into a communist one is what is cancer
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>>79547685
You got it Ameribro. I'm going to use that simile from now on.

How many times do you fuckers have to watch your own ideology eat itself before you actually learn?
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