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Red pill me on Race and IQ /pol/.
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Hispanics are smartest but weakest
Blacks are strongest but stupidest
Whites are weakest but in between iq
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>>79476333
niggers seem to have the greatest agility, but not the fastest reflexes to fit. Not really sure why this is, Neurological, Cardiological or muscular, we dont know yet because its a taboo study.

Whites are the strongest by far. Niggers rarely find the talent to compete in competitions of strength. Again, the why is not clear.

Whites and asians are the smartest, asians having the highest average intellect, but whites having the most geniuses per capita. This probably has something to do with hormones, but cannot be said for sure.

Abos and pygmy niggers are the dumbest with avg iq of 70 or something.
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>>79477040
100% shitpost, please ignore
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>>79477040
>MEXICAN INTELLECTUALS
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>>79477040
Same Aus-oh... God damnit
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>>79477285
The genius thing is because our bellcurve is wider. More dumbasses and more geniuses but it averages out to 100. That is why. Meanwhile the Asian bellcurve has more near the average. It's probably all genetic.
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Ashkenazi > Asian > White > Whiteish > Arab > Gorilla > Negro
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>>79476333
IQ is a measurment of how well adapted someone is to a particular, generally western and modern way of thinking that is learned. Proof is that there is roughly a full deviation increase in IQ from one generation to the next every time, even within the same race in the same country. Average white people from the early 1900s would be scoring about a 70 on mordern IQ test, not because they were dumber but because they learned to approach problem solving in a very different way.
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Someone red pill me on the standard deviations within each IQ bell curve.

Is it 15 points for all races? Or just whites? Is it smaller for Asians, which is why we see similar numbers of white and Asian genius tiers?
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>>79476333
Blacks are naturally violent and have low I.Q.'s
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>Not having Stat Cards
>Not having them look like Baseball Cards
>Not being obvious

>Jew
>Chinks (Japanese Chinks, Phillipene Chinks, Etc.)
>Americans/Nordic European/Non-social Europe
>Rest of white social Europe
>Mid-Shade Europe (Greece, Spain, Morocco)
>Beaners/Arabs/Canadians
>Noggers
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>>79477040
So full of bullshit.

Asians are the smartest race, even their natives have a better IQ than the other races.
Whites came in the second place I guess (Jews also have a better IQ but they are semitic, other semitics don't have such a great IQ)
Then Hispanics
Then Apes
Then Blacks
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>>79477285
>whites are the strongest by far

Chinese dominated weight lifting championships last olympics

Weight lifting isn't really popular outside of western countries plus a few others like Iran (which also dominates this sport)
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>>79476333
Sub Saharan blacks - average IQ 70
American blacks - average IQ 83
Hispanics - average IQ 89
Whites - average IQ 100
Mormons - average 106
Japanese & South Koreans - average 106-108
Ashkenazi Jews - average IQ 108-110
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>>79477687
this is bullshit. tests have been adjusted for culture

>tests are racist
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>>79477687
>Subhuman apologist
Sure iq tests are rigid but there is more than one iq test. You would have everbody believe pygmy niggers and abos are just as smart as everybody else, when pygmy niggers cant even operate a vehicle
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>>79476333
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>>79476333
that aint dumb
those niggas got around the curve and made the most of their meager gibs
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>>79477040
Illegal immigrant detected

Get out and build wall.
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>>79477477
>creator race
>europid
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>>79477806
>Chinese dominated weight lifting championships last olympics
No they didnt

https://www.olympic.org/london-2012/weightlifting
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>>79477806
Asians and Slavs seem to have hip structure that is more conducive to deep squatting than other races. Asians also seem to have relatively small femurs compared to their torso length, which is another factor in catching a clean and staying upright.

However, whites seem to dominate the more strength based sports like powerlifting or strongman competitions.
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>>79477843
No, they haven't. And if they have then you really don't have a point because that means they weren't taking the same test.
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>>79477938
>that 56 subsection
JUST

What group is that?
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What about Muslims/Arabs ??
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>>79478022
Yes rice nigger, civilize a whole continent and come back to us
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>>79478079
Powerlifting and strongman (especially strongman comps) aren't popular at all outside of western countries. Next you're going to tell me Americans are racially built for baseball and American football.
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>>79478103
Do some more research dumbass. The tests are the same, it's mostly pattern finding with shapes. The explanations are in the native language. Look it up.
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>>79477040
Asians are the smartest and weakest, I haven't really given hispanics much thought though.
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>>79478223
Nigger listen

America most popular sports requiring agility
>Basketball, football
>dominated by niggers

America, strongman competitions are popular as well
>Dominated by whites

What dont you understand
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>>79477687
Logic and pattern recognition is not a "western way of thinking". That statement about about how white people from the early 1900's would score a 70 on a modern IQ tests is absolute horseshit. I've read quite a lot of this subject from both sides, I was almost going to write my thesis on the subject actually, and I have never come across a statement that said such a silly thing.
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>>79478142
i think Botswana + Zambia
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>>79478163
rare?
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>>79478223

Whites are more commonly born with a lower center of gravity than other races, making it easier to lift heavy objects and carry them over distances. Blacks generally have a higher center of gravity making it easier to run faster.
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White>Asian>Kike>Latino>Arab>Nig
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>>79478103
>No, they haven't.
Yes they have, they don't get much press because blacks actually perform worse on tests with cultural references removed than they do with "white culture" assumptions in the test.
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>>79478186
Europid isnt even a real race
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>>79478408
I thought it was mainly just vocabulary and less malnutrition. Isn't the Flynn effect basically over?
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>>79478491
Uncommon.
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>>79477040
anal fuck me now
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>>79478284
And psychologists still say education matters. Blacks might be inherently stupider but the real IQ gap is going to be narrower due to the Flynn effect. East and west Germany had 10 point gaps
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>>79478492
I dont think that is enough of an explanation. Strength competitions feature many strength exercises that wouldnt really be affected by a minor change in center of mass
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>>79477477
>indian
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>>79478142
Those idiot Rhodesian nazis.
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>>79478550
seriously thicc anon, noice

nice trip trips as well. Good night for you my man
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>>79478598
IQ is estimated to be between 70-95% hereditary.
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>>79477938
Nice sources /pol/and.

Also, an iq of 56 would be like barely functioning, needing be hooked up to machines and not able to put a shirt on level retarded. There are no populations on Earth not demonstrably capable of at the very minimum basic crafts, building simple structures, agriculture, etc, so that chart can dismissed out of hand anyway.

This is why you don't leave advanced biology and psychology to people who have never picked up a book on the subject in their life and have an opinion fueled entirely by infograph memes created by other people who are just as clueless as they are.
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>>79478397
Every black in the USA grows up playing basketball. Why aren't blacks dominating soccer too? It's to do with what's culturally popular more than anything
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>>79478598
>Blacks might be inherently stupider but the real IQ gap is going to be narrower due to the Flynn effect.
The black and white gap hasn't narrowed for like half a century. It's genetic m8.
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There's no real verified scientific evidence on any of this. There has been some exploratory research by people like Richard Lynn, Helmuth Nyborg, and Tatu Vanhanen, but a lot of it was purely speculative.

For instance in IQ and the wealth of Nations they used IQ tests from the US army which did such things as classify northern africans (i.e. egyptians) as "white" and had a category for "hispanics" but didn't specify what the race was.
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>>79478745
Yes it has you idiot. Look up the stars
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>>79476333
Pygmies, bushmen and Abos score 52-64 on average(retarded)

Sub Saharan Africans and blacks in the west score 70-85(borderline retarded)

Mestizos/natives/Hispanics/Browns score 85-90(average intelligence)

Europeans score 95-100(high intelligence)

East Asians score 105(higher intelligence)

Ashkenazi Jews score 115(highest intelligence,do not fuck with them)
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>>79477627
Can someone explain what this graph actually means? What values are on the axes?
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>>79477040
>single contibution submitted by this user
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>>79478727
Pretty sure the 56 one is for pygmies, it does sound like bs. 60's are real statistic though
>>79478810
American blacks have higher IQ because they are on average 20% white, also look up the minnesota twin adoption study if you think its not genetic.
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>>79478810
Nope.
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>>79478707
According to whom?
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>>79478741
Because soccer features endurance more than anything else. The muscle type associated with endurance is also associated with whites and with
>strength
oddly enough

you dont know enough about what you want to talk about, learn more and come back
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>Red pill me on X. (with no extra content or input of your own)
Why aren't these threads ever deleted???
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>>79476333
http://www.unz.com/article/the-iq-gap-is-no-longer-a-black-and-white-issue/
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>>79478938
That's sat not iq. You're dumber than any nigger
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>>79477687
>>79477843
>>79477870
>>79478408
Average IQ correlates with average income so the culture point is pretty much irrelevant, unless someone comes up with a new economic system that caters to those with lower IQs.
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>>79478727
I dunno about 56, but abbos are barely functioning. They literally had to invent a different blend of gasoline to stop them from sniffing it. And there's the whole sleeping on the road shit.
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>>79479039
SAT correlates with IQ.
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>>79477609
except that jewish shit, its pretty much accurate
>>79478727
>Also, an iq of 56 would be like barely functioning,
even the most retarded animal can find food and shelter. nothing more is needed to survive. I dont know if they are 56 or 60 or 70. The point is that its hard to compare them to any modern civilisation.
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>>79479060
>unless someone comes up with a new economic system that caters to those with lower IQs
it's called socialism
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>>79476333
You readily accept that a Border Collie or a Poodle will be smarter and learn commands faster than a Beagle or a Bulldog, why would you not accept the same in humans?
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>>79479060
>Average IQ correlates with average income
and the income someone earns has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with how smart they are then?
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>>79476333
Honestly, these guys impress me. Same with those guys from shithole african villages who practice powerlifting practing with like spare tires and scrap-iron weights. In an environment like that, they've got a practically religious dedication to the craft to keep it up
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>>79478951
>soccer is more endurance related

>whites are better at endurance

Holy fuck you're seriously an idiot and havent played sports.
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>>79477040
>asians are smart meme
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>>79479121
>except that jewish shit, its pretty much accurate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence
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>>79477687
But they all do the same IQ test based on pattern recognition. The whites who had to adapt to cold climate for thousands of years needed more intelligence to survive, so even a few hundred years ago the IQ would be the same or even higher.
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>>79477040
>Hispanics are smartest but weakest
Here's your (you) good sir.
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Anyone who thinks blacks are the strongest is being memed. Slavs and asians are much more stronger. Blacks have more fast twitch muscle, so they have more power. That's why sports like football, which requires a lot of explosive movement over time, is dominated by them.
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>>79478765

Remove those countries and the results are still the same.

You can nitpick any metric or method, but if every time you test something the results come out the same, maybe just maybe there is something to it?

We are being very fucking generous, since you have yet to produce any data at all that supports race/intelligence equality.
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>>79478562
Yes, Malnutrition and vocabulary absolutely do play an effect. It's been awhile since I've finished my schooling but if I remember right languages like Zulu simply don't have words for abstract concepts like time. It's almost like they are unable to grasp that current decisions may affect the future for them. Now It's very unpopular and you definitely have a strong chance of being rejected from the scientific community if you make such statements, so it was very hard to actually find really in-depth studies of if it was the language at fault, or if it was the people were simply too stupid to grasp the concepts.

But anyway while I was doing research a big one that made me believe that IQ has a heavy genetic component is twin studies. Black twin adopted into white family with poor income vs black twin adopted into black family with good income, situations like that. It shows a fairly clear link to race and IQ being also genetic when things like nutrition and vocabulary are taken into account
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>>79479204
>sport where players can run upwards of fifteen miles in a game has nothing to do with endurance

Just get the fuck out straya
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>In 2006, The New York Times Magazine listed about three quarters as a figure held by the majority of studies

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/23/magazine/23wwln_idealab.html?ei=5090&en=2c93740d624fe47f&ex=1311307200&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all&_r=0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ
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>>79477477
>poo in loo detected
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>>79477687
SHITPOST
IGNORE THIS FAGGOT
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>>79479408
>>79478940
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>>79476333
Google it. There's a lot of info out there on the subject AND IT IS VERY ACCESSIBLE. You might as well redpill yourself. Seriously. Just google it.
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>>79477806
China puts literally a million kids into full time training camps and the state doped them, to end up with maybe 100 athletes

Maos push for Olympic models was driven by his inferiority complex in the Chinese race
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TL:DW There are large IQ differences because races adapted to different environments. Expecting niggers to be successful in high IQ societies is a globalist delusion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lsa_97KIlc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsh_b70NSFQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFERsUXjf-I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x-tYmyJSVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZPsXYo7gpc
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>>79476333

Obviously there's a tradeoff between brain size and penis size during development.

Blacks -> Whites -> Asians -> Women
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>>79479503
Probably the best advice here since you have to wade through complete nonsense like
>>79477040
>>79477609
>>79477747
>>79477806
>>79478223
>>79478598
>>79478741
>>79478810
>>79479204
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>>79479372
The centre midfielder might run 20km but others play more zonal you idiot
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>>79477285
>asians having the highest average intellect
>>79477609
>Asian > White
>>79477788
>Asians are the smartest race
>>79478391
>Asians are the smartest

You faggots mean EAST ASIANS.
Whites outperform SE Asians and Middle Eastern Asians and Western Asians
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>>79478727
As someone who has worked in sub-Saharan Africa, I'd bet my car that some of the gorillas are smarter than the locals.
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>>79476333
Homosexuals have higher IQ than heterosexuals
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>>79478397
but powerlifting is shit and only popular in america while olympic weightlifting is an international sport dominated by eastern europeans , meds , and chinks not surprising the most godly heavy infantry come from those places
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>>79477435
Yeah, my side got lost on that one too.
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>>79479600
Hmmm
Thinking real hard here famalam
You real woke man
gotta show mad respect to that
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>>79479431
>SHUT HIM DOWN
you delusional white supremacists are really annoying you know that?
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>>79479315
Blacks are usually stronger. I looked like a tank when I benched 455. But I knew relatively small black guys who could keep up with me

Asian strength is a meme and only in squats, usually they're weak as shit in upper body lifts and heavy pulling.
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>>79479715
>mfw no citations
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>>79479695
>admits soccer players run like hell and endurance is a factor
>admits, without realizing it, that whites are more genetically predisposed to endurance based activities
>doesnt realize this is why soccer is filled with white and semi-white pros
>calls me an idiot
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>>79479702
my mistake, you are correct for wanting to make that distinction
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Whites are stronger on the upper scale when it comes to pure brute strength. Look at any strongman competition.
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>>79477823
>Sub Saharan blacks - average IQ 70
>American blacks - average IQ 83
Proper diet and racemixing higher up the ladder increases the average IQ by 13 full points, that's actually intriguing.
Maybe WHITE MALES, FUCKING can uplift the spics as well.
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>>79479939
Blacks are champions at boxing. A sport that the white man made and popularized.
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>>79480030
not relevant at all to leaf's comment
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>>79478163
Hella rare
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>>79479894
You illiterate idiot. The centre midfielder, one position out of 11, might run 20km but other positions run maybe 10km and these are the top players. Other field sports run far far more. Soccer isn't endurance anymore more than other field sports
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>>79479821
>Asian strength is a meme and only in squats, usually they're weak as shit in upper body lifts and heavy pulling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84vmuuuHRg
Skip a little past 7:00.
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>>79479715
Fuck off, Milo.
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>>79478852
As far as physical attibutes go, I'd say Europeans and those with European blood are the most attractive. Then easy Asians. Everythin else is generally brown. Whites are the best physically as well. All sports are dominated by Europeans besides the popular ones like basketball or football. Lighter features on females are seen as most attractive and a bit darker on males are seen as most attractive.
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>>79478870
Looks like bullshit, that figure isn't actually in the paper cited.
This is the actual figure and it's splitting some genes that are know to have variations into two groups and plotting what percentage of each group people in different population group have. Basically it's showing that people from similar ancestries have inherited similar sets of mutations.
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>>79477938
are abbies really this retarded?
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>>79480113
he said brute strength. isnt boxing about showing an another person who's boss through your fists?
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>>79479894
Seriously Americans have to be the dumbest cunts on pol. They don't know anything about anything. Science,
Social sciences, fucking anything. No wonder your country is going down the shitter
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>>79480131
Leave it to an australian to make this elaborate series of shitposts
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>>79479145
That's not at all what I meant. My point was that whether or not IQ measures some objective kind of intelligence (I think it does), it measures abilities which are very important in the current economic system. So the "IQ tests are culturally biased" arguments are pretty much irrelevant because IQ measures something very important to modern life.
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>>79478651

north asia was colonized by proto-aryans from europe several thousand years ago.
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>>79479332

I don't believe either side, and no one can say for sure because we just simply don't know enough about the subject to say authoritatively one is right.

A big reason for that is that post-WWII universities have been prevented from studying these types of question due to leftist decrying of social darwinism.

IQ can't be equated with intelligence either. IQ doesn't test memory at all. IQ doesn't measure things like concentration, spacial awareness, etc.

Then you get into the question of distinguishing races. There are no unambiguous biological markers of race. It's extremely complex to group such disparate peoples as icelanders and greeks into one group.

Like I said, it's intellectually dishonest to say you know for sure anything regarding race and IQ. We just haven't studied it enough.
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>>79477687
No. IQ is a measurement of intelligence. Fuck off nigger.
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>>79476333
>How white people used stone.
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>>79478550
>TFW YOUR HEAD ISN'T THE WATERMELON
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>>79480301
Only the Trump supporters are like that.
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>>79480293
Yeah but the best boxers are agile, its not a stength sport that features a show of weight and muscle control.
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>>79477285
Blacks have more fast twitch muscle fibre, and looser joints, whites have more slow twitch muscle fibre and stiffer joints. This is why whites are strong men, and blacks are runners and shit.
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>>79479595
Yea Moly was the guy who redpilled me on this stuff. I thought the IQ stuff was all memes until I watched those videos.
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>>79479218
oh you. Ashkenazi meme is based mainly on Cochran, G., Hardy, J. and Harpending, H. work. I of course dont need to mention that they were all jews
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>>79477938
>no Russia stats
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>>79480301
Again, dont know why i wasted my time to begin with
>australian
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>>79477847
>Muh ASPM and MCPH genes
Read your own links.

http://hmg.oxfordjournals.org/content/16/6/600.full
Thus, our overall findings do not support a detectable association between the D-allele of either ASPM or Microcephalin and increased IQ. Furthermore, examination of the allelic effects of both genes together shows no evidence of a heterozygous or epistatic effect.

http://hmg.oxfordjournals.org/content/13/5/489.abstract
Thus, the number of IQ domains does not appear to bear any relationship to brain size in mammals, and it certainly has no relevance to the enlargement of the brain during hominoid evolution.

http://www.pnas.org/content/104/26/10944
The phenotypic effects of the derived haplogoups of ASPM and Microcephalin are not yet known but arguably do not include gross phenotypic alterations: the derived haplogroups are apparently not involved in variations in intelligence (52), brain size (53), head circumference, general mental ability, social intelligence (54), or the incidence of schizophrenia (

http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v20/n2/full/mp2013197a.html
It should be noted that the effect sizes observed in our experiments are small, as might be expected from mutations in human genes that regulate late events in neural differentiation. Such mutations may not cause gross cortical malformations, but rather more subtle cognitive and behavioral defects. Given this and the age specificity of our observations, a major challenge remains to generate additional studies to replicate our findings.
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>>79476333
>1 post by this ID

I don't even want to bother typing it up.
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>>79477847
also
>muh Witherspoon paper
Read it.

http://www.genetics.org/content/genetics/176/1/351.full.pdf
The fact that, given enough genetic data, individuals can be correctly assigned to their populations of origin is compatible with the observation that most human genetic variation is found within populations, not between them. It is also compatible with our finding that, even when the most distinct populations are considered and hundreds of loci are used, individuals are frequently more similar to members of other populations than to members of their own population. Thus, caution should be used when using geographic or genetic ancestry to make inferences about individual phenotypes.
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>>79477747
Why is Russia all black?
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>>79477747
You have to go back
from whence you came
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>>79480269
Does it specify what the genes are? Because if it's something like melanin content, it really doesn't mean much.
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>>79480392
>sandniggers are white only if they do amazing shit.
neet, no money, uneducated, video game addicted, 0 benefit to society white shits are niggers then, i assume?
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>>79480473
Holy fuck
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PHILLIPINOS ARE THE MOST...
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>>79477938
When they say Asians have 105 IQ, they don't mean all Asians. The dark blue area is about 20,000X too large.
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>>79480643
BIX NOOD
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>>79480392
oh come on. greeks and middle easters white
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>>79477477
>Arabs
.>live in large groups without breakdown or violence.
nigga what?
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>>79477938
>>79478727
>>79479121
>>79479706

>NATIVE AMERICANS, CLOSE RELATIVES TO EAST ASIANS SCORE LESS THAN A STANDARD DEVIATION IN IQ

Hmm... Really makes you think...
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>>79480638
>Holy fuck
What did the Aussie mean by this?
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>>79477687
>Raven's matrices are a western and modern way of thinking
>dots lines and circles are western centric
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>>79480717
POWERFUL IN THE WORLD

Swag
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>>79480570
its not all black.
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>>79480175
>Literally a one in a million exception proves the rule
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>>79480812
They were fine before you came along moishe, have a little perspective.
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>>79480350

The only reason we're even talking about IQ is to give black and mestizos a fair chance, since when you look at actual accomplishments they get completely destroyed:

Professionally
Accademically
In their native countries
As minorities in white countries
Currently and all throughout history

So we come up with a test that tries to give them a chance by ignoring those things as much as possible, and that test is the thing you chose to nitpick.

I agree it needs to be studied further. But at this point the evidence is so overwhelming, that basing policy on anything but the assumption that there is a huge difference in intelligence, is madness.
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>>79480942
Chinks dominated weightlifting in the olympics
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>>79477627
https://med.stanford.edu/tanglab/publications/PDFs/WorldwideHumanRelationshipsInferredFromGenome-WidePatternsOfVariation.pdf

This paper does not mention anything about race or differences in genetics between human populations. It only traces haplogroup migrations. This a paper supporting the of out of africa theory.
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>>79476333
So that's how organic bulls are made.
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I'm half white half Hispanic (TeJano not Mexican) my verbal iq is 111 and nonverbal is 105. Thoughts?
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>>79477477
>Turkic/arab can adapt
>no breakdown or violence

???
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>>79479356
You've definitely read Braun's Racism, Guilt, Self-Hatred & Self-Deceit. It's a very good read on the subject.
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>>79477040
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>>79480570
most of russia east of the urals is mongolia: erectric boogaroo
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>>79479121

the stupid jews didn't survive the holocaust
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>>79480548

no one will respond to you because they are convinced by their anecdotal observations and confirmation bias.

The simple truth of the matter is that there is no legitimate scientific evidence establishing a correlation between IQ and race, or even establishing biological markers of race itself.
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>>79481041
Tu (((bait desu))) puede comer mis bolas como triki trakes
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>>79480836
they didnt come there like yesterday. in the end everyone comes from africa. note that the conditions shape the iq. the warmer the lower.
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>>79479356
>too stupid to grasp the concepts.
They also may be too stupid to develop the concepts. It's a feedback loop. Africa is a dump because they're genetically retarded and it being a dump further lowers their IQ scores (Raven's matrices in particular, which are pretty neutral).
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it's all horseshit

think about blacks in 1950 before welfare, they were perfectly integrated in white culture but then we put them on welfare and ruined all of their incentive to prosper.
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>>79480836
>CLOSE RELATIVES TO EAST ASIANS

No they're not.
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>>79481164
I know, but there is always a chance you might take a science denier and show them their own contradictions and bring them to the truth.

The overall problem is that people like this can't deal with reality... well they better learn to deal with it.
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>>79480976
most weren't self governed before ww1.
also arabs kill themselves in the tribe level in staggering numbers.
most murdered in israel are of arabs by arabs.
and that isnt unique to the arabs living here.
arab society norms are savage.
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>>79478727
iqs below 70 is literally mentally retarded.
as in you cant feed yourself, cant even hunt, cant use tools, understand human speech or even drive a vehicle.
areas in africa with the 70 iq and below are filled with warlords that kills their enemies using ak's and grenade launchers plus shittons of mechanicals

iqs are simply an another globalist bullshit.
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>>79481164

I agree with you save for blacks. black people are dumb as bricks and racial groups who mix with them suffer.
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>>79481250
>think about blacks in 1950 before welfare, they were perfectly integrated in white culture
No they weren't. They lived in slums or in the deep south in huts. Housing projects were a response to dindus living in slums.
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>>79481297
FST stands for fixation index. Indexes and metrics are different things. Look it up.
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>>79481297
>whites the most tightly grouped of all ethnic clusters

No wonder the judes want us dead.
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>>79481164
Wrong, you can judge a race with 70% accuracy by looking at their skeletal structure.
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>>79481320
You're a moron. African IQs are based on Raven's matrices which measure pattern detection. It doesn't measure how well they can interact socially or verbally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKA9_FlsZqE
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>>79481178
My mom didn't teach me Spanish, dad wouldn't let her
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>>79481378
>chinada telling me about blacks
educate yourself


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzNYCPZXvlw
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>>79481388
"Metric" means distance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixation_index#Autosomal_genetic_distances_based_on_SNPs
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>>79481568
My particular interest is the great migration and the invention of the mechanical cotton picker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCrR6ltEep4
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>>79481538
im pretty sure those people in wartorn areas dont have the time or patience to deal with the stupid ass IQ test shit while they should be spending their time trying to stay alive

stupid ass fuck
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>>79481305
>weren't independent


>what is the ottomon empire
I guess whites aren't independent because we live in mostly federal nations, and have never been truly independent before that because we all lived under large empires.

The middle east was at the very least not a war torn hellhole before Israel was formed.
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>>79481372

There is no scientific evidence to prove that claim.

We don't even fully understand what intelligence is in genetic terms, yet alone biologically divide up the human species. It's too early to say anything about this.

People treat IQ as if its some be all end all, when in reality it has been shown to have a weak correlation to educational acheivement and income.
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>>79480492
Poland always had an issue with mother Russia.
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>>79481451

Name me the races and show me their biological markers.
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>>79481658
Their societies and behaviour reflect their IQ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W27PnUuXR_A
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>>79479123
Collectivist systems can only work in intelligent societies.
Honestly, it seems like only dictatorships or theocracies (or theocratic dictatorships) work for dumb societies.
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>>79480987
>b-but whitey held them all down!

you literally can't win with leftist, I quit fighting them.

I am with you and the canacuck that it needs to be studied further, but all other evidence (like you said) points to the obvious. Even in reproduction strategy (rushton).

And if we really want to make it black and white we can go with the
>leftist delusion we're all equal
>more realistic idea that there are hierarchies much like there are in nature

I'll take the latter
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>>79481745
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>>79481320

the problem is that you're measuring 70 IQ based on the metric of other races. Most groups won't hit 70 IQ without some form of brain development or damage problem that leads to SOCIAL DISABILITY, the deviation is too great to reach it normally.

with blacks, 70 IQ is incredibly close to their normal IQ, so visible social deficiencies shouldn't show up until near the 50's. This leads to people that are completely normal when you talk to them, but find it exceedingly difficult to comprehend and execute concepts (like farming) that we take for granted.
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>>79481603
Correct.

A metric is something with definitive or agreed upon value. Like a meter for distance.

An index is a comparative value within a set sample. Let's say I'm taller than 75% of people so my height index is 0.75. That's not something else accurately with.

You can't use FSTs from different samples and compare them because they aren't metrics.
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>>79481671

You know shits fucked up when you defend the Ottoman occupation of the ME.
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>>79477477
abos should be in a league of their own desu
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>>79481705
>People treat IQ as if its some be all end all, when in reality it has been shown to have a weak correlation to educational acheivement and income.

That weak correlation only gets weak at you go up past a certain point in the IQ ladder. A person with an IQ of 160 isn't that much more likely to have achieved more income and educational achievement compared to someone who has an IQ of 115.

However as you go down the scale, there is a very clear correlation. A group of people with an average IQ of 80 is almost certainly going to have achieved less income and educational achievement compared to a group of people with an average IQ of 100.
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>>79477285
Why do you see mostly blacks on sports teams?
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>>79481658
nigger detected
kill yourself chimp
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>>79476333
- Asians are terrific at copying other people and at muscle memory tasks. Also pretty smart
- Whites are the most creative. Also pretty smart
- Blacks are most naturally athletic. Intellect questionable.
- everyone else can't compare (poointheloos, native savages, hispanics, etc)
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>>79481705

>There is no scientific evidence to prove that claim

if blacks were capable of anything they wouldn't have been considered animals by every other racial group for thousands of years.
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>>79481745
>>79481981
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shovel-shaped_incisors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny_in_humans#Between_races_and_among_primates
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>>79481705
But intelligence IS hereditary

Dumb fuck fucks dumb fuck and gets dumb fuck pregnant will result in a dumb fuck offspring.
The same as beta+beta=beta.
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>>79482096
easy money/fame/success with barely no mental effort applied
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>>79480323
I agree with this very much. IQ has great deterministic effects on success. I recently redpilled a person on racial IQ differences but he started saying "Well, I don't think intelligence matters as much as you think. And I think you can train somebody to do anything, some people just need more time."
The closing bits of our discussion were comprised of me trying to say I really don't think that's true, and that certain fields (like computer science, which is what he's interested in) have an IQ floor. I was trying to say that dumb people will have an increasingly scarce need to exist in our society as we move towards full automation, yet their population continues to swell.
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Irrelevant concept. The only thing that should matter are individuals. Anyone who prides themselves in their race or vilifies other races of another is simply a collectivist.
For example, even if blacks are all deemed by statistics to be dumb, it would tell you nothing about an individual black person standing in front of you. A smart person can come from a family of idiots, just as an idiot can be born out of a family of geniuses.
Race and IQs do not matter on an individualistic level.
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Leader of country: We will not allow people with sub 100 iq into this country
Liberals: That's racist
Leader: how is it racist, do you think people of different races have different IQs you shitlord
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>>79481568
Wow its pretty disquieting to see. People like him existed and could fill a classroom with attendants because the rate of illegitimacy was lower in his generation. 30 years later you can't get a single autonomous gathering against the decline of the black community together, and its become increasingly harder to do for whites as well.

Its frightening to think that the prole status blacks have been relegated to is only a preview of what is to come for other demographics in America.
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>>79482162
That doesn't imply differences in heredity between races.
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>>79481705

>We don't even fully understand what intelligence is in genetic terms, yet alone biologically divide up the human species. It's too early to say anything about this.

We know exactly what intelligence is.

It's performance at cognitive tasks.

Some people might be better at certain tasks than others, but if you're worse at everything you are dumber.

Blacks perform worse no matter which metric you pick.
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>>79481164
t. jew
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>>79478727
>There are no populations on Earth not demonstrably capable of at the very minimum basic crafts, building simple structures, agriculture, etc, so that chart can dismissed out of hand anyway.
Australian aboriginals.
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>>79481981
>>79482150
You've been fooled by another meme. Only one of those skulls is actually a homo sapien.

It's a common tactic to find pictures of other hominid skulls and claim they are different races.
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>>79482215

you can't measure the value of an individual without an average to base it off of, idiot.

a hold more respect for a 100 IQ black with a decent job than I do a 100 IQ asian with a decent job.
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>>79477627
explain the sand niggers please
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>>79482295
Could you elaborate on that?
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>>79482041
The ottoman empire was middle eastern, and to imply that the middle east was not self-governing when they had an all-encompassing state is pretty disingenuous. He was trying to suggest that arabs cannot persist in civilization at a lower level than whites and east asians, which is all the picture claimed.

say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
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>>79482435
In order for the gap to be explained by genetics, different races would have to have drastically different genetics.

Even if IQ is highly heritable, if we all have roughly the same genetic variation, the gap couldn't be explained by genetics.
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>>79481745
>Name me the races and show me their biological markers.

All races within their individual racial populations have an average skull size. Those average skull sizes differ between races. An average Skull of European descent will be larger than an average skull of African descent.

Really man, it's not hard to google this kind of stuff.
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>>79477477
Why are Indians given the Arian name wasn't the Ariana current Afghanistan?
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Over the past 5 years, a variety of specific genes have been shown to influence IQ. Versions of these genes which lead to higher intelligence are consistently found to be more common in Whites than in Blacks. The difference between Asians and Whites is less clear. The consistency of these findings, which have been replicated across two genetic databases, makes an egalitarian view of racial intelligence differences improbable. This research also suggests that selection, instead of genetic drift, causes racial intelligence differences because IQ related genes are more racially differentiated than most genes are. In fact, they are more racially differentiated than height related genes are, suggesting that selection for racial intelligence differences was stronger than selection for racial height differences.

Swallow the red pill over at
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/race-and-iq/
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>>79477040
>Hispanics are smartest but weakest
Always remember the Mexican Renaissance!
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>>79482399
At least three are homo sapiens. And even if the "abo" skull is neanderthal, neanderthal's were homo sapiens (Homo sapiens neanderthalensis).
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>>79477285
>Not really sure why this is
> Again, the why is not clear.
Negroids have higher ratio of twitch muscles to skeleton muscles compared whites. Twitch muscles are best for explosive movement, like boxing or sprinting. Strength sports rely more on skeleton muscles.
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>>79478741
most european national soccer teams are mostly black
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>>79482675

aryan's colonized northern india.
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>>79477040
Hispanics as in Spaniards, yes

Hispanics as in Mexicans, no
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>>79482195
>IQ has great deterministic effects on success.
Not really. What matters is how many hours of experience you put into something. IQ helps, obviously, but it isn't the only relevant factor that decides who will be successful and who won't be. It comes down to genetic factor, upbringing, education, social status, luck, and historical timing.
There are many people with insanely high IQ who don't become the next Bill Gate.

>>79482409
Yes you can you fucking retard. You can base an individual by talking to them and interacting with them.

>a hold more respect for a 100 IQ black with a decent job than I do a 100 IQ asian with a decent job.
Then you're a racist. Good job. You judge a person by their race than their personal achievement and personality. Who's to say that the Asian guy wasn't given that job because his father is the CEO while the black guy went to university and got that job? Historical and personal relevance matters when judging individuals.

IQ is not a measure of evaluation or respect simply because a collective is statistically better than another.
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>>79482764
>mostly black
>mostly
You're thinking of France, Bilel.
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>>79481671
>Ottomans
>Arabs
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>>79477609
>Ashkenazi
you're mixing up genetic insularity with IQ somehow

anyway, it matters not a shit what a GROUP'S IQ is.
Individual achievement is all that counts.
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>>79477285
Thanks to our marvelous breeding program during slavery
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>>79482678

>>79477847
>>79480525

Not a single gene discovered so far has been confirmed to have a affect on IQ
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>>79482399
That's pretty racist desu.
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>>79476333
We really need a sticky...
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>>79477823
>Sub Saharan blacks - average IQ 70
>American blacks - average IQ 83
>Hispanics - average IQ 89
>Whites - average IQ 100
>Mormons - average 106
>Japanese & South Koreans - average 106-108
>Ashkenazi Jews - average IQ 108-110
this is nonsense.
there is actually current research...if only you could get online somehow so you could get the facts...
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>>79482905
Maybe people should just accept that IQ is just fucking irrelevant like race.
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>>79482860
>anyway, it matters not a shit what a GROUP'S IQ is.
>Individual achievement is all that counts.


Very silly thinking. A group with a high average IQ is more likely to have more greater individual achievements than a group with a low average IQ.
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>>79482904
Based
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>>79478163
middle east has an average of about 85
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>>79482195
It's tough to talk to the average person about this stuff. Usually it's not because your argument is bad, they just don't want to be seen as a Nazi. Just point out 2 things:

1: There's no objective supremacy, only being well adapted to environments. This applies to IQ as well.

2: The differences between racial averages are smaller than the variations in individuals within the races, so you can't just assume a random black guy on the street is dumber than you because you're white. It does, however, give us incentives to restrict who we let in to our countries.

That way, you're (slightly) less likely to get called a Nazi.
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>>79477938
a copied map with a line of text = legit source
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>>79482128
if im a nigger by your definition i wouldnt be able to use a computer or understand english
be smarter you dumbfuck
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>>79482960
>there is actually current research.
Wow thanks for the references.
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>>79483025
>individual achievement doesn't count if we put people in a group!
Jesus fuck.
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>>79482905

The heritability of intelligence is well-established. Ever heard of adoption studies?

Please read the following: http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/the-heritability-of-iq/
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>>79483071
>This applies to IQ as well.
No it doesn't. This idea of "cold climates make you smart, warm climates make you dumb" has no basis is science. There are no regions in the world that select for IQ.
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I have no doubt differences in IQ between races exist, but how much of that environment meme with regards to the development of civilizations is true?

In other words, if you swapped places for all the peoples of Europe and Africa 4000 years ago, what would Europe vs. Africa look like today in terms of cities, etc.?
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>>79483090
>if im a nigger by your definition i wouldnt be able to use a computer or understand english
Niggers understand rudimentary english. Niggers mostly speak ebonics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klxGFAnY4nI
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>>79483025
Your achievement was to prove my point for me.
And you did.
Thank you.
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>>79477040
Are hispanics weakest or are the whites weakest?
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>>79483090
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>>79483110
Where did I even insinuate that? Like, how the hell did you even come to the conclusion that I was insinuating that?

Does individual achievement count? Yes. Will there be more, better individual achievements in a group with an average IQ of 100 than a group with an average IQ of 85? Yes.
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>>79477040
>hispanics
>smart
Mucho keko. Hispanics are only one level above blacks and that's only because of the food.
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>>79482904
african states got into the world cup many times.
senegal finished 4th place in 2002

blacks are just athletic naturally
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>>79483216
Environment affects evolution. It affects genetics. It also affects how those genes are expressed for the individual. IQ is due to genetics and the expression of those genes within an environment.
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>>79476333
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_Science_on_Intelligence
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>>79482195
>certain fields (like computer science, which is what he's interested in) have an IQ floor.
This is almost certainly true.
>>79482808
IQ floor doesn't mean that a high IQ guarantees success. It just means certain activities require a minimum amount of processing power or capacity for abstraction. A 150 IQ doesn't mean you'll be the next Richard Feynman, but an IQ of 80 means you won't.
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>>79479123
lolrekt
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