No one was doing better in 2008 than in 2016
I'm the same. Obama was a mediocre president, but he didn't make anything worse.
He basically maintained the status quo.
>>79476060
Him giving unions exemptions on the healthcare law ruined the company I was working for. I make a fuckload less money today than I did a couple years ago because of his corruption.
>>79476309
So ambassadors were dying under Bush?
>>79476309
>but he didn't make anything worse
He absolutely did.
>He sided with BLM - 'if i had a son he would look like Trayvon...'
>He allowed the 'dear colleagues' letter which led to large numbers of false rape allegations on university campuses
>He pushed the gender pay gap lie.
>He introduced Obamacare which increased insurance costs.
>He criticized and ostracised business owners telling them 'you didn't build that'.
>He armed the 'Syrian Rebels' against Assad who then became ISIS - causing massive number of people to flee into Europe and lying to them about how muslims are peaceful.
>He withdrew troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, allowing ISIS to expand.
He divided the country along race and gender lines, he encouraged riots and violence, he criticized people who were trying to create jobs which would pull the country out of the financial crisis, and he engaged in a policies that armed ISIS and allowed them to expand - the whole time telling people how wonderful Muslims were.
He absolutely made a bad situation worse.
>>79476924
nah just couple of towers
>>79476060
Economically everything is exactly the same as 2008. Mediocre.
Socially I am now terrified to walk outside or turn on my television because the country has reached soddom and gammorah levels of degeneracy, no joke.
Overall it's a failed presidency m8
>>79476924
That's hardly Obama's fault, and if you think it was then, then everyone who died on 9/11 and in Katrina were Bush's fault.
Very stupid thing to say.
>>79477004
>He withdrew troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, allowing ISIS to expand.
and thats a bad thing ? he just let the arab fuckers fight and the next presdient will come sweeping in and take all the reward and glory
>Occupy was once revleft
>Now they are a PAC for Big Capital
I bet BLM will get gutted just the same.
>>79477018
Was Europe invaded by rapists and terrorists after the towers?
>>79477136
That's some sour bait. I guess the WTC security staff were repeatedly denied requests for increased anti-air defenses and no aid was sent for Katrina.
>>79476060
Pic is true actually. The GOP have gone back on all their own ideas from a tax on carbon to mandates to buy health insurances. Of course it is the duty of the opposition to...oppose. In time of crisis like we saw in 08-09 we may have expected a decent a little more constructiveness on the part of the GOP however.
>>79477268
and why the fuck obama should care about europe again ? he was too busy fixing your monoply econemy faggot
>>79476924
Embassies were getting bombed and attacked and we were destroying our budget for Cheney and his cronies. Hillary will be Bush 2.0.
>Open borders
>Amnesty and citinzship to Mexicans that didn't even want it, to fix more elections
>>79476060
>>79477004
This
Fuck Onigger
Full effects of the market crisis didn't hit until 2009. Presidents don't really have much impact on the economy.
>>79476060
I love how dems blame republicans for the recession when it was the dems who shoved sub prime mortgages down everyone's throat... There's a reason the right calls it the sub prime mortgage crisis, and the left calls it the great recession.
>>79476309
... lol?
>>79477136
Read the reports. Silly liberal.
I had all A's in 5th grade and I graduated high school in 2016 with a B average....
Obama and the Democrats doubled the national debt.
They've made our great great grand children worse off.
>>79476060
It's true, but most of the damage he did won't be felt until many years from now. Like what Clinton did.
>>79478222
for example?
>>79478177
you do realize itsn't his fault right ?
>congress give obama 10$ to buy ice cream
>obama goes to buy ice cream and find it 20$
>buy it and now in 10$ in debt
>congress and america is SHOCKED and cry how obama failed
>>79477467
An estimated 1,800 died from Hurricane Katrina and Bush knew it was coming well ahead of time.
I don't even think Katrina was Bush's fault, and that's the problem with you and everyone like you—tragic events are politicized to hell to suit your own self-sucking worldview.
>>79476060
Yeah, more taxes means less money for me. I'm worse off.
>>79478364
It is Bill Clinton's fault for giving the 90s Republicans Free Trade and Deregulation. While also pumping bad money into the housing market.
That brought us to the 2008 crisis. Then the Democrats and Obama tried to Keynes Economics their way out. Though most of it went straight to the Investor Class and skipped the part where working class buys things to keep the economy going.
>>79478364
Why is nothing ever obama's fault to you cucks?
>>79476060
No one is responding because they can't counter you. Some people--mostly middle class white males--just have this frustration they need to pin on someone/something, to blame some outside force for their inability to perform up to the standard set by their forebears.
The Republican party uses those people by offering them things to blame: liberals, gay marriage, immigrants, etc. There is no duty to serve any of these foolish sheep, they'll believe what's programmed into them on TV and talk radio.
Once their votes are gained, the Republicans then turn around and fuck these people over
>>79478419
Niggers just had to take a bus ride across a bridge and find a place to stay.
Democrat nigger mayor of New Orleans left hundreds of city buses to be flooded. Instead of using them to evacuate people.
>>79478560
There have been plenty of replies blowing OP out. Nice bait though, earned that (you)
>>79476060
Usually you want to be better off after a recession not the same. Right?
>>79478419
So I guess Bush could have pressed some magic button that would have made the levies go from being able to withstand cat 3 surge to cat 5 surge instantly, as well as repair all infrastructure, at the same time teleporting medical supplies and aid to New Orleans right after the storm had passed, all while raising New Orleans from below sea level to a few feet above to drain the city dry. I guess he just didn't do it because he didn't like it.
What a fucking idiot.
>>79476060
Under Obama I have to pay out the ass for for not having insurance because I can't pay out the ass for that insurance.
And I no longer get remotely decent hours because neither of my employers wants to pay out the ass to insure me.
Thanks Obama.
Obama divided the country in race relations.
He literally said Trevon Martin was his "would be" son if he had one.
>>79476060
ACA...Fast And Furious...Loretta Lynch...come one, think anon.
>>79476060
yes, yes i can, the SJW bullshittery went into full swing under his presidency, and this got a fuckton of people fired for diversities sake you shitheel.
>>79478419
>People who refuse to evacuate before a hurricane die in the aftermath.
Shock and horror. Perhaps we should have sent the National Guard and forced everyone to relocate like a proper totalitarian regime.
>>79478769
Obama made nothing but troll picks for his administration and courts.
a lot of women, minorities, and minority women.
>>79478547
he isn't without his faults but overall he prevented your country from going into total disaster you just don't know it yet
>>79477187
>he just let the arab fuckers fight
He sold them the guns, what he's done in Libya and Syria is worse then bush with Iraq and Afghanistan.
Proxy wars and arming terrorists, displacing millions of refugees who ran to europe. It would be fine if he just left the middle east alone, but he didn't he fucked it even worse then it was before.
Removing Saddam destabilized the whole region, did Obama learn from that mistake? No he did it again with Ghaddafi and is trying to do it now with Assad.
>>79476060
My insurance went to shit. Fuck you!
>>79476060
Did the republicans make him incite
race rioting too?
I actually have a theory that what we think are shill threads are really god tier /pol/stars intentionally stirring up righteous anger so that we become super predator memesters that can shape the discourse
Without these stupid threads with inane point /pol/ might lose its edge and some of its anger and fuckerness and it wouldn't be nearly as powerful.
>>79476060
2008 is your baseline because of the deep recession. Obama uses it too.
Democrats caused the recession, of course. The same democrats who passed everything he wanted passed, that led to the worst 'recovery' ever.
>>79478717
> implying obamas theoritcally son wouldn't be a black child
God Repuketardz are so fucking retarded
>>79476060
Obama has made many references to paying off friends.
Look at this chart.
There are more Wall Streeters and lobbyists in his White House than in any previous.
This is their payoff.
Obama is the ultimate 1%fucker.
>>79479069
Don't forget how they threw almost a trillion dollars in the trash for the "stimulus" too.
A TRILLION DOLLARS
>>79479026
I just come here for fake white identity politics outrage lulz
>>79479258
beach front mansions don't pay for them selves you know. it was a gift from the medical industrial complex. for not passing a single payer healthcare system that would destroy the insurance market and cut pharma's profits to the bone.
>>79476060
>No one was doing better in 2008 than in 2016
Even for a democrat, you aren't very up on events, are you, anon?
Here's a few thousand people demonstrably worse off after 2008.
>>79476060
>Barack Hussein "If I had a son, he would be like Trayvon" Obama.
B-but it was le ebil rethuglicans fault, I was only trying to unite the country!
Typical nigger crying and moaning when things don't go his way.
Keep telling yourselves that
>>79476060
He wasted his capital good will with the ACA. He should have worked with fringe Republicans and destroy them from within, slowly with passing bills.
But the dumb nigger has no sense of politics and executive ordered his way to disgrace.
>>79476060
>No one was doing better in 2008 than in 2016
Everyone's taxes went way up.
The taxes on the poorest went up most of all.
But you don't care, do you?
You probably think a gasoline tax is a good idea, probably because it hits the poorest the hardest, which makes for societal unrest, which is your bread und butter, ja?
meh. he wasnt that bad. not that he was good, but when the fuck do we have good presidents? they've all been shitty for as long as i can remember.
>>79479561
>The taxes on the poorest went up most of all.
my taxes didnt go up at all and im poor.
>>79476060
>repukicans get all that kock bros money!11!
>democrats get money from the little guys!1!
>>79476309
I know probably around 50 people who cant go to college now cause obamas cuts in military spending, all my brothers friends went to college and then went to the military, and came home under bush. (rural btw)
>>79479550
Obama's failing is that he has been too concerned with his "legacy". He wants to be remembered for anything other than just "first black president".
Just look at the shit he started spewing once he hit Lame Duck. Free College, Cure Cancer Moonshot, women and trannies in combat, taking the credit for gay marriage. Still crying crocodile tears over shootings and crying about gun control.
>>79479754
why didnt they just go to college? its pretty easy to get money for.
>>79479717
Kock suckers bros pockets are way deeper
Plus Unions are good
>>79479698
Alert the press.
Your anecdotal and anonymous word is all we need.
>>79479885
well you've yet to actually show that they went up.
so...fuck off nigger?
>>79479838
are u retarded, everyone here was a middle class citizen who would spend years paying back loans. The military helped give all my brothers friends the strength and mental ability to actually make it in the real world
>mass shootings under Bush
Virginia Tech
>mass shootings under Obama
Orlando
UCSB
San Bernardino
Aurora
Tennessee
Charleston
Sandy Hook
really makes you think, doesn't it
>>79479869
Can you not read?
Or are you just a typical leftist who lies because it's all you have?
>>79480011
Schools have quit teaching reading comprehension.
>>79479869
I was in a union. The only 'Good' it did me was take a percentage of my money and give it to people who didn't work in the upper echelon of the union.
>>79480146
well you've yet to actually show that they went up.
so...fuck off nigger?
Uhhh, I sure as fuck was. Not even blaming Obama, but don't say ignorant shit like "No one was doing better in 2008 than in 2016" because nigger, I was doing way, way better.
>>79480230
I don't have a facepalm hard enough for this.
>>79476060
Financial crisis caused by republicans? No, it would of happened regardless of who was in power.
>>79480286
You're delusional bro
>>79480326
well you've yet to actually show that they went up.
so...fuck off nigger?
>>79479369
Retarded.
Also, sweeping and inflammatory, completely lacking supporting evidence or even a clear train of logic.
Rejected.
>>79479272
>>79476060
>economy starts in the deepest recession since the great depression
>no longer in said depression
>none of you are worse off
no shit you dumbass
the world economy got better. obviously we're better off. and obama didn't fix the world economy
>>79479170
>obamas theoritcally son
You can always spot the leftist.
>>79477056
where do you live anon?
>>79480551
I like how republicans never bitched about national debt when bush was racking it up but instantly cried about it when it was President Blackenstein
Irony
>>79476060
>No one was doing better in 2008 than in 2016
Fuck the facts, amirite, anon?
Facts aren't needed or wanted by democrat voters.
They get in the way of feels.
>They're all icky and i don't feel safe!1!
>>79476060
obama's biggest success: showed how far racial relations had come over the course of 200+ years
obama's biggest failure: showed how far racial relations can fall over the course of 4-8 years
>>79480819
Seriously was your head in a hole?
>>79480591
>the world economy got better.
The stock market and arms dealers are better off.
Frackers are better off, despite all attempts by democrats to stop them.
Otherwise, no.
See:
>>79480883
>>79476060
But lol he got a twitter
>>79480070
This was six years ago, I think the unions are getting more competitive considering the Democrats have become the party pushing free trade agreements that threaten Union jobs and also that illegal immigrants take work away from unions. Add in the fact that social justice is becoming increasingly anti-white and these unions are made up of white workers, it's a smart target.
We should consider integrating the unions into the Republican party. Democrats have tricked unions into voting against their own interests. I think is core to Trump's "rust-belt" strategy.
Finally, the Koch brothers haven't endorsed Trump and even suggested supporting Clinton instead of him, why are you defending him?
>>79480883
uh that chart doesnt go til now. thats 3 year old data.
wiki claims that its at $54,462 in 2015.
that would appear to be higher than 2008.
>>79480819
it was naturally going up more because of the wars. it really didn't jump until obama got in
>>79480819
>I like how republicans never bitched about national debt
Idiotic, but not unexpected. Democrats never pay attention, or they wouldn't be democrats.
Bush had low approval numbers because leftists were on auto-disapprove, and rightists dumped on him for his spending (and not letting the troops do their job).
>>79478302
Housing bubble, three strikes is debatable but probably bad. He sold missile tech to china that now puts our carriers at risk. He robbed social security to pretend like he balanced the budget. He was a crap president. Basically all he was good at was appeasing niggers and women who have no interest in the greater good of the republic.
>>79476060
Why do people still try to shill for Obama? It's so obvious that he's been one of the worst presidents ever. Even Bill Clinton agrees
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/03/21/bill-clinton-knocks-obamas-awful-legacy/82094792/
>>79476060
Economically, yes. My family and I are far worse off under Obama. My wages have stagnated, my father lost his job twice due to Obamacare, my mother lost her insurance due to Obamacare.
My girlfriend's family lost their insurance due to Obamacare as well.
Racial tensions are at an all time high because he IMMEDIATELY jumps to all the "dindu nuffin" blacks before any evidence is even presented. Even DeBlowso in NYC does this. It's horrendous.
"Most transparent administration" that won't release anything and only talks about topics it wants to talk about.
Corrupt as shit (See: Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton, half the ambassador appointees)
Entirely responsible for the political divide and partisan split. His refusal to move an inch from his position has resulted in an inability to compromise and stagnation, leading both wings to despise each other for the inaction.
He's destroyed our military. Lifting the ban on transexuals was the final straw, now the military is going to be paying for the mentally ill to be getting mutilated. Allowing women in combat will inevitably destroy unit cohesion.
The national debt is at $20 trillion, the number of unemployed/underemployed is at record levels, the number on food stamps is at the highest levels ever.
He's been fucking garbage.
>>79481193
Which majority of conservatives approved , I remember growing up to right wing blow hards defending bush saying if you don't agree with the war you are with MUH terrorism and SUPPORT MUH TROOPS
>>79478912
He wasn't there to learn, he was there to conquer the West. Muslim Brotherhood puppet capitalized on the First Black President potential to get in office, strengthened and armed the jihadi militias and their respective sponsor countries, then used all of the collected dirt on Merkel to force her to open the gates.
>>79481136
>This was six years ago
But not a thing has changed.
Unions don't care what rank-n-file wants.
>Finally, the Koch brothers haven't endorsed Trump and even suggested supporting Clinton instead of him
One Koch is neutral. The other is supporting Johnson. Both are libertarians.
>why are you defending him?
Because his opponent is a socialist.
Socialism had destroyed every society that's tried it. If the average IQ of democrats was over 10, it would be a historical oddity.
>>79478074
The left calls them Predatory Loans LMAO
>>79481240
bush's first term average approval rating was 62%. now democrats did hate the shit out of him. but you're retarded if you think he wasnt popular as fuck with republicans until the last couple of years. then we got to see the beginning of the tea party but they didnt get much coverage til they got co-opted.
>>79478560
tru
>>79476060
urban negros have clearly become emboldened, and not in any good ways. sjw white shithead are not helping matters either. without a surplus of menial jobs that low standard black people can do, id say race relations are the worst they have been in 20 years. also, murder in big cities across the country is thru the roof. without a doubt, urban crime has spiked under obama and mayors nationwide and taking a stand down approach as to not offend their black constituents. fuck that.
>>79481595
The fact that Kochs supports Johnson despite knowing what's at stake makes him an antagonist to the nationalist cause. He is what is known as a cuckservative. They only fight socialism for monetary reasons, not because they care about the demographic integrity of America or it's national supremacy,
>>79481136
>We should consider
>implying we have any say in anything
>the Democrats have become the party pushing free trade agreements
>two decades ago
>>79481148
>uh that chart doesnt go til now. thats 3 year old data.
You go to war with the data you have, not the data you want.
>wiki claims that its at $54,462 in 2015.
>that would appear to be higher than 2008.
Wiki isn't proof, since anyone can edit it.
The strength is in the citations, which are facts.
With an average of less than 1% GDP growth over 8 years (and GDP includes .gov spending, which is $1 trillion more than tax revenues annually), less small business start-ups than failures, and the lowest labor force participation rate in decades...
I highly doubt wages are going up.
Except minimum wages, which will cause unemployment to go up (like it does every time minimum wage went up).
This is a complex subject, which is why democrats don't understand any of it.
>>79481961
uh violent crime is down across the board since 2008.
College is literally unaffordable now, tuition skyrocketed, job market isn't that great, deficit doubled, racial tensions are terrible as he propagates an anti white agenda, veterans are fucked, most Americans cannot afford a house and have no savings, degeneracy is at an all time high, most 20 year old are depressed, marriage isn't even a thing anymoreanymore leading to kids growing up fucked in the head, our education system is the shitter through common core... I could go on. OP is a faggot.
>>79476060
>Republicans caused the 2000s Global depression
>"If only Obama was given unfettered power to mettle with our nations Constitution! You are just evil stupid racists!"
>"The Government didn't cause the global depression it was the evil *unregulated* bankers who are totally not in collusion with the Govt, ignore the federal reserve goy!"
>Govt regulations will fix the economy goy! It doesn't matter that the depression has ruined your finances, give more shekels to the govt so they can pump it into failed social programs!"
LEFTISM IS A FUCKING MENTAL ILLNESS
>>79481366
Don't forget it was the Republicans that did the actual balancing, and made sure to block HillaryCare.
>>79481472
Everything you typed was a lie. Surprise!
Democrats pushed for and supported the war in Iraq, including both candidates against him, and both Clintons.
That's on top of the fact that Iraq was justified and necessary.
>MUH terrorism and SUPPORT MUH TROOPS
>now everyone will think i'm cool!1!
>>79482109
>like it does every time minimum wage went up
you do realize that every real world study they've done on this has shown that to be complete bullshit.
>>79482327
>That's on top of the fact that Iraq was justified and necessary.
Neocon detected, get the fuck out of here, Iraq was a fucking mistake.
>>79481685
>but you're retarded if you think he wasnt popular as fuck
You don't have the facts, kid.
He was 'popular' only relative to Kerry.
Go look it up. I'm not your mom.
>>79478364
>buys ice cream even though it's twice as much money as he had
That is literally his fault.
Any sensible person would just go without ice cream.
I don't see why we defend Republicans during the Bush era, they were mostly neocons and cuckservatives to the core. They did nothing about illegal immigration and got us in costly wars.
Bush was a shit president, and his congress shit.
Obama was a shit president, and his congress shit.
We can't handle another shit president.
>>79482397
We know that now.
We did not know that back then.
lrn2comprehend.
>>79479394
>icasualties.org
Now there is a site I haven't seen in a long time.
>>79482454
>You don't have the facts, kid.
gallup puts his average first term approval rating at 62%. now i know this is complicated but that means 62% of people polled were pro bush. that means he had a BIG number of people that supported him. do you understand, faggot?
>>79482593
Yeah, because the Neocohens purposely misled Bush for their gains, in particular Israel's gain.
>>79482593
>We did not know that back then.
but some of us did know that back then. they just lied and made up excuses that and everyone believed them.
>>79482140
>uh violent crime is down across the board since 2008.
UNTIL 2008, princess.
Then your hero showed up.
I often wonder how your type survives day-to-day.
>>79482730
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
look at the year to year chart. now it only goes to 2012 but all the 2012 numbers are lower than the 2007 and 2008 numbers.
>>79482375
It does.
You're lying again. Or probably just don't know, and your side thrives on wishes and hopes.
>>79482140
not murder. its up in over 12 percent in 20 east coast and midwest cities in just the past two years.
Currently reading Atlas Shrugged.
>You can't possibly think I'm responsible for all of this
Noticing a lot of connections with our present day mind set. Only in chapter 5 or something though
Pic oddly related
>>79482397
Hindsight is 20/20 mate. Also, Iraq was going to move off the petroldollar. I enjoy not warming my house with matches and rubbing tinder together, and I enjoy driving a nice car and not sleeping on a cardboard box. I'll gladly go to war to maintain our economy.
>>79482397
>Iraq was a fucking mistake.
This is how leftists "debate".
You don't even care to know what you don't know.
>>79482623
>gallup puts his average first term approval rating
Average is the keyword there.
Back up your facts, princess. I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if I'm given proof. But this seems like a meaningless side-issue.
>>79482707
>in particular Israel's gain.
>dem jooos dey done sto my moneys!1!
>i'm a worthless piece of shit unable to make my own way!1!
>>79482879
Looks like you missed it:
>>79482730
>>79483278
Could it possible be a neocuckservative on pol, have we found a unicorn?
>>79476060
he's just another W
I really didn't want 8 more years of W
>>79482140
but yes, gun crime in general has been on a downward trend since the mid 90s. even fucked up old chicago is basically seeing half the homicides now that it saw in the early 90s. the only thing that keeps black crime and population in check is negro bitches and their high abortion rate, and chimp on chimp crime. im pro choice for life.....
The only lesson of this thread is:
Never trust anyone.
Back up your claims with facts.
Be willing to change, but only in the face of fact.
Opinions are for losers.
>>79483186
uh an average of 62% is pretty good as far as presidential ratings go. i dont know what you're talking about.
>>79483364
looks like you're ignoring actual data for no reason? nigger much?
>>79483508
Shove that fedora up your ass you self-righteous faggot.
The worst part is that Obama's legacy won't end the day he leaves office. His policies will continue to haunt this country for decades to come.
>>79483580
no what? no abortions? or just no....
>>79480819
I'm 40 and I've heard righties complain about it literally my whole life.
>>79480819
Bitching about the debt is like THE founding plank of the Republican platform lad.
You're just too young to understand that, seeing as you were in diapers will the 2nd Bush was in office.
It is just as likely that we are better off BECAUSE Congress obstructed everything Obama tried to do.
>>79483934
Gosh, if only someone cared about that pesky debt...
>>79483934
>Bitching about the debt is like THE founding plank of the Republican platform lad.
the other plank they forget to mention is that they make sure to do nothing about the debt when they're in control of everything.
>>79476060
Anyone that says this isn't paying for obummercare.
>>79484032
Because every time we have those government shut downs there the Republicans refuse to raise the debt ceiling and reject budgets that have out of control spending is "doing nothing"
Nice try, kiddo.
>>79484344
>>79484344
Lemme tell you what Obama supporters are like.
Obama is a terrorist with guns who walks into t nightclub.
Congress is the local police who arrest him before he opens fire.
Then Obama says, "Look at all the lives I just saved."
>>79476060
>have both the house and Senate in 2008.
>Lose both by 2012
What an amazing president :^)
>>79484344
when was the last time we had a government shutdown when republicans were in charge? 30+ years ago? for 1 day and it was the dems that caused it. how many days have we been shut down in those 30 years when dems were in charge? 42 days? all caused by republicans. hrmm seems like you only care about debt when dems are in the hot seat.
>>79483570
Prove it.
I know he got that high. Maybe higher.
Bush the Elder was up to 90% at one point.
"At one point" is the key.
>>79483618
>looks like you're ignoring actual data for no reason?
You didn't supply any data, princess. Moron much?
>>79483702
>Shove that fedora up your ass you self-righteous faggot.
Every other democrat in this thread said the same thing, princess. But with more subtlety. And the same amount of fact and logic.
>>79483773
>no what? no abortions? or just no...
No crime decrease since 2008. In fact, it's rising.
The 'one weird trick' is to use your reading skills.
>>79485581
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116500/Presidential-Approval-Ratings-George-Bush.aspx
From a managerial standpoint, I sincerely believe the man is incompetent.
He's a terrible leader. He's a community organizer, he'd fit right in with BLM. Those are his people.
>>79484013
>It is just as likely that we are better off BECAUSE Congress obstructed everything Obama tried to do.
Exactly right.
The Texas example. Only let the Congress meet once in a while, then go back to their real jobs.
Also
The media is carrying his legacy. If they did their jobs, he would have 5% approval rating. They excuse him.
It's the emperor's new clothes. No one wants to talk about it, but Obama was simply never cut out to be president.
>>79484032
>they make sure to do nothing about the debt when they're in control of everything.
Republicans, we have to admit this is true.
This is why Trump is winning now.
>CONGRESS OBSTRUCTED EVERYTHING
No, the American people did. That's democracy.
My question: why can't Obama work with Congress? It seems to me he has a "my way or no way" attitude. But he blames his political opponents.
That's the hallmark of a narcissist. Which he undeniably is given his upbringing.
>>79485166
>when was the last time we had a government shutdown when republicans were in charge?
Every time. The Congress is held by Republicans and the Prezzie is a Demy.
Prezzie wants to spend $2 trillion more than revenue.
Repubs hold him to only $1 trillion more.
Gingrich is the exception. He actually made a surplus, but even that was only because of the .com bubble.
>>79486243
yeah the problem isnt republicans stopping the dems from overspending. the problem is republicans dont stop the president from overspending when its a republican president.
>>79485835
>http://www.gallup.com/poll/116500/Presidential-Approval-Ratings-George-Bush.aspx
Ok, steady downward trend.
Look at 2004.
Below 50%. It only went back up when Kerry was nominated. Lulz.
>>79476924
Yes. Do some fucking research
>>79476060
>No one on /pol/ can honestly say they are worse off under Obama ?
I'm worse off under Obama.
Even worse than that, my mother is worse off under obama thanks to the raping he gave to the insurance industry through obamacare. She had to change healthcare providers, change her health insurance provider, change her health insurance provider again when it collapsed, and pays more for her insurance premium for less coverage.
You're a fucking faggot if you think everyone is better off under Obama.
>>79486412
Those are RINOs.
And it shows how retarded the current GOP leadership is. They had control under Bush and did nothing.
All the Romneys, Mccains, Mcconnels, Ryans, they're all in on it. Country club republican bullshit.
>>79486448
oh im not arguing that people werent constantly jumping ship from him. im just saying that he had a decent run his first term. at the end of it he still had a good number of morons that liked him. only god knows why.
>>79486090
The best posts are ignored.
This anon is correct.
But no lefty will respond.
>>79486557
>Those are RINOs.
those ARE the republican party.
>>79486509
>Yes. Do some fucking research
Which ambassador died under Bush?
None?
Ok, then.
>>79486557
Wait until after the conventions and the GOP caves to Obama and gives him his supreme court nomination before the election.
Just so the Democrats can't call them obstructionists.
>>79486557
>Country club republican bullshit
Democrats belong to the same club, princess.
If you give them a pass, nothing will change.
Here's some detail showing why YOU are the real problem.
>>79486640
Do you know what a RINO is? I mean really is?
>>79477004
>He withdrew troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, allowing ISIS to expand.
Do some research. He didn't make that call. George W Bush did. All Obongo did was allow it come to fruition. He just didn't stop it. That actual agreement to withdraw our troops was signed by Bush
> The president can be blamed for his predecessors mistakes.
>>79486564
>im just saying that he had a decent run his first term.
That chart shows a steady downward trend in his numbers, with a 9/11 boost and an invasion boost. Both times, democrats were on his side.
The media attacks against him started right after the election, and were almost non-stop, while they ignored their own party failings.
>>79486926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__6Qb2rgzuo
Don't take our word for it, though.
>>79476060
I went to law school and had to dear with all the dear colleague bullshit. Also my health insurance is significantly higher.
On the bright side, my mom used to be an active democrat and now she's a Trump supporter and I heard her say degeneracy the first time today. I was proud.
>>79486926
>All Obongo did was allow it come to fruition.
Actually, we were going to leave forces there. Iraq wanted us to. Obama did not want to.
Zero wanted a full-scale invasion of Afghanistan instead, because that always worked in the past, despite the fact that Bush was making real progress (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Task+Force+Devil+New+War+on+Terror).
>>79487091
The sad thing is, the far left has the monopoly on social media, mass media and entertainment.
Yet people are flipping sides. Even JFK Dems.
>>79487064
>That chart shows a steady downward trend in his numbers
yes but they went from stupidly high to about what you'd expect for a divided country. he still had solid backing from his party. til...later.
>>79487331
pretty sure fox pulls down the biggest numbers.
why wouldnt jfk dems think about voting somewhere else? the dems today are nothing like they were back then.
>>79476060
Actually I was doing better in 2008 than currently
>Capital gains taxes increased
>ACA tax
>Lost my healthcare plan and now am on medicaid, which is extreme shit
>had to switch jobs because my company went under in 2011 because of Obama's increased taxes, my current job pays 2k less a year
>increased income tax and payroll tax
I get roughly 16-19% less a paycheck since 2008 this is including the 2k a year pay decrease. The only good thing for me is I don't have college debt or multiple loans out at the moment but that's because I saw that shit coming since 2008. So I saved up for this crap. and my 3 years of saving (2008-2011) has paid off. I would be in extremely better shape if I didn't have to save like I did.
>>79487426
>he still had solid backing from his party. til...later.
My original point.
He lost our approval when he kept spending too much and didn't let the troops fight to win.
>>79487714
>medicaid, which is extreme shit
really? cause they basically cover all your costs, except a slight cost on some prescriptions.
>>79487714
>better shape if I didn't have to save like I did.
Amen, brother.
Thanks to obama's incompetence, savings are losing money, because it doesn't even keep up with inflation.
OP is not only a fag, but wrong. As usual.
>>79487908
You've never dealt with the government.
Lucky bastard.
I remember being clueless and content.
>>79476060
I could afford healthcare in 2008.
Muslims only attacked in planes.
BLM didnt exist.
Fags couldnt get married.
Trannies were not even a thing.
So yeah... much better.
>>79488025
really? i've done enough with the government. they do cover all your costs.
>>79486926
by that logic Bush cant be blamed for the war as it was caused by his father and Bill clinton fucking around in the ME with desert fox etc
>>79487556
Saying that Fox pulling the highest numbers for a news channel = evidence a monopoly doesn't exist is ridiculous.
They are the only ones with a conservative bias. Every other major news outlet is left leaning, some of them massively so, and when the country is split down the middle on ideological standpoints with only one news outlet that aligns with HALF THE DEMOGRAPHIC.....
Basic math dude.
>>79488122
>they do cover all your costs.
The doctor is either taking a loss, or cutting your "treatment" to the bone.
There's no such thing as a free lunch. You always pay for what you get, and get what you pay for, even if you don't see it.
>>79488313
Among who, millenials?
>>79476060
This fucking nigger has added more to the deficit than all others before him. That is his legacy
>>79488313
>They are the only ones with a conservative bias
And the only ones that let the other side speak.
>>79488637
treatment is fine. see the docs whenever i want. see specialists constantly. have tons of health problems, never had a single problem.
>>79488749
wrong faggot, meant for >>79487556
>>79476060
>occupy demokikes
>>79485962
god damn it point your weapon down fuck boy
>>79488766
I exclusively watch FOX Business.
>>79476060
>quadrupled the deficit
>withdrew troops from Iraq prematurely and allowed ISIS to form
>blamed the situation on Bush
>continues to blame Bush for the shitty economy, even though he's been in office for eight years and has enacted sweeping reforms that have produced only slight economic growth
>completely fucked up our healthcare system; seriously, we would actually be better off if he had done nothing at all
>refuses to take a hard line on Islamic terrorism, refuses to even SAY Islamic terrorism, is a possible Muslim sympathizer or even a Muslim himself
>has deepened animosity between races by siding with BLM and baiting conservatives on race issues constantly
>takes credit for low gas prices and other shit he had nothing to do with
>dismisses radical Islamic terrorism as a "political talking point" and accuses conservatives of hijacking terrorist incidents for political gain, yet never misses an opportunity to bring up gun control when speaking on these issues
Yeah, OP. Obama has been a great president and is not divisive at all.
>>79489019
I have to point out the only working example of a Republic in existence.
>>79482707
wtf I hate the dersh now
>>79491685
Nazis and blacks blame "others" for their own failings.
If you identify with either, you'll be a failure in life, too. Guaranteed.
Man up.
