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>The first person to die in a U.S. crash involving a car in self-driving mode was the tech-savvy 40-year-old owner of a Tesla Model S who nicknamed his car "Tessy" and praised its sophisticated "Autopilot" system.
>Joshua D. Brown, of Canton, Ohio, died in the May 7 crash in Williston, Florida, when his car's cameras failed to distinguish the white side of a turning tractor-trailer rig from a brightly lit sky and didn't automatically activate its brakes, according to government records and a Tesla statement issued Thursday.
>Frank Baressi, 62, the driver of the tractor-trailer and owner of Okemah Express LLC, said the Tesla driver was "watching Harry Potter on the TV screen" and driving so quickly that "he went so fast through my trailer I didn't see him."
>"It was still playing when he died and snapped a telephone pole a quarter mile down the road," Baressi said in an in an interview from his home in Palm Harbor, Florida. He acknowledged he couldn't see the movie, only heard it.
Hopefully it was Goblet of Fire.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-driver-killed-crash-while-012228445.html
MICK'D
>speeding down the highway while watching a movie
Darwin in effect
I'd never trust autopilot that much
"I guess that's one Harry Potter trailer he'll never forget", said Baressi as he chuckled to himself. "Fucking faggot"
>>79355729
>tech savvy
This just means hipster who owned an iPhone. No sane person who knows anything about technology would offer to beta test a fucking car that drives itself
>>79356103
>>speeding down the highway while watching a movie
I can't even imagine how far up his own ass he was to be doing that. You know he was one of those fags who's all smug about being an early adopter of tech.
I would rather hope he died watching the third one, as that is the best.
>truck driver pulls out infront of car
>king obongo bans assault electric cars
Laughingoiljews.jpg
>>79355729
/o/ here.
>Trusting a completely self driving car
>Ever
Self driving cars are literally the same thing as flying cars - a fairy tale. If you want a car to drive itself while you do nothing just order a cab ride. Driving is a task with far too many human variables that it will be decades before a foolproof self drive system is made (even then it's still a big IF). Not to mention what the hell does one do when the computer sensors break down?
>Oh no my car won't drive itself anymore I guess I'm stuck. At least I was able to catch up on my latest Netflix shows rather than learn the simple task of operating a motor vehicle.
Fuck self driving cars and fuck Tesla.
>>79356103
This is not Darwin in effect. That man was 62. If he was going to have children he would have had them long ago, meaning his genes are likely already passed down a new generation.
>>79356132
"Abra Cadaver"
>>79357003
He was 40, the truck driver was 62
>>79357003
He was only 40.
The driver of the truck he crashed into is 62.
>>79356992
>Not to mention what the hell does one do when the computer sensors break down?
Die apparentlly
>>79356992
I imagine for good self driving you would need some kind of external control, like every legal road vehicle being controlled by some computer conducting all traffic. These auto drive systems based purely on reaction like the Tesla thing doesn't seem like it would be any better than a human.
>>79355729
This is why Google is still extensively testing their system
>>79355729
He could have just listened to the audiobook instead and not died. It's better anyway.
>>79355729
>this
>solarshitty merger
>ridiculous corporate turnover
>huge insider selling
>gigafag-tory is fraction of the size it was supposed to be b/c tesla has to use capital raise proceeds for SG&A
>cash burn stronger than ever
>model 3 going to be late and at least $50,000
>model X unmitigated disaster
Its been a good year to be short TSLA.
you just posted this thread on /tv/
>>79357270
Too dangerous. A 1000 ton metal body that can be remotely controlled? You are just begging for someone to gain access to it and send everything to hell.
>>79355729
also folks, remember that Tesla doesn't know shit about self-driving cars, they license that tech from 3rd party vendor, I think Mobileye.
>>79357503
You could say the same about regular cars, except in that case you have millions of possible crazed killers instead of pulling from a few dozen government officials.
>>79356992
>e. Driving is a task with far too many human variables that it will be decades before a foolproof self drive system is made
It doesn't need to be foolproof to be better than humans.
the solution to self-driving cars is external control, like some anon mentioned
the problem is that even with external control- accidents will happen
imagine the carnage when instead of one self-driving car- the computer fucks up and accidentally a whole bridge full of automated cars and everyone fucking knows that they are going to die but they can't do anything to stop it
fuck it
im walking
lol, Tesla fags deserve it desu
>>79357503
>
1000 tons? Are you retarded?
More like 6 million tons
>>79357270
centralized system fail in every place you can imagine.
This universe do not support this for long.
>>79357653
Any system that is remotely controlled from a far off base of control is susceptible to having it's signal intercepted especially since for such a system to work, you would be required to bounce signals off relays. So it isn't just a few dozen government officials. Do you even know how remote operations Work?
>>79357941
Still less than the total of all conventional drivers anyway.
>>79355729
>allowing autopilot go that fucking fast
>>79357895
Oy vey
This would have never happened if ALL CARS were self-driving. Don't worry, President Hillary will give a free 2-seat Chinese robocar to all qualifying citizens. BTFO Trump racists
>>79358134
>Trusting computers in cars to make critical braking and acceleration choices for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_47utWAoupo
>>79358134
>allowing autopilot go that fucking fast
This. If it was a short trip to the store and back I'd probably just chill out and let the auto pilot handle it.
But driving on the highway or speeding? I'd rather have some control over the situation.
>>79356992
>Not to mention what the hell does one do when the computer sensors break down?
What does a normal car do when the human driver's sensors break down? Or the human driver has a stroke or a heart attack? Or the human driver stops paying attention?
Not going to take the words of actual Luddites who still praise stick shift seriously though.
>>79357744
Make sure you aren't wearing white clothes, Elon Musk's prisonmobiles might mistake you for a fluffy snow flake.
>>79358396
Not the computer's fault to be honest. They forgot to turn on the brake/detection software before smugly standing in front of it.
>>79356992
/g/ here
Sadly, this man's death will serve as beta testing for future development. Your metal heaps that encase you and your bad driving, that cause millions of deaths every year, will soon be irrelevant. Programmers will get better and drivers will be phased out. Everyone covers this story, but no one talks about the drunk drivers and Fast and Furious wannabe racers that take so many more lives.
The codes we write will get rid of your "hobby".
>>79357744
External control is literally the worse thing you can do because communications can be interrupted or hacked into. You want a locked down self-contained system with enough redundancy in it's systems and sensors that it can safely detect failures, remove itself from the road, and shut down.
The problem here was that the sensors couldn't/didn't detect the object that was blocking the road. A remote system using the same sensors still wouldn't have detected it.
Self-driving cars will be safe when all cars and most roads have government-mandated position and orientation identifiers in them. A self-driving car going off digitized models of the traffic conditions is a trivial thing to accomplish. A self-driving car using entirely visual information will always have wrinkles to be ironed out. That's why CAPTCHA's are visual images: humans are just better at interpreting visual data than even the most sophisticated algorithm.
>>79358429
>But driving on the highway or speeding? I'd rather have some control over the situation.
Driving on the highway is the ideal situation for autopilot actually. It's mostly driving in a straight line with no cross traffic, basically the same reasons as cruise control.
ITT:
>/pol/ shits on auto-pilot cars for its FIRST death while they ignore the 115 people that die in car accidents in Brazil everyday
I'd rather pick an auto-pilot than an actual person, tbqfhwyfam.
>>79359159
>115 dead berzillions
nothing of value, etc
>>79359159
>Implying ANYONE cares about third world shitstains
lmao
>>79359159
Isn't Brazil one of the countries where people drive on roads barely wide enough for 1 vehicle on mountain sides? Yea you won't be getting autopilot
>>79359366
No. Brazil doesn't even have roads.
F A T A L I T Y
>>79358741
yeah but % wise that self driving car seems way more dangerous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq_OTcncPH0
Tesla """""""autopilot"""""""" can't detect red lights, needs road markings to be impeccable meaning it can't drive on most residential/secondary roads or on roads in need of some maintenance, had a patchy GPS system and requires you to keep your hand on the wheel at all times.
So.. what's the fucking point?
>>79359159
>Brazil
>>79356132
nearly spit my drink out, thanks for the kek anon
>>79359542
It's intended almost exclusively for long stretches of highway use.
That guy is a fucking moron, you're absolutely not supposed to use it in town.
>>79357696
Better than humans is not good enough.
Think for one second about the motor skills of the average driver.
>>79359542
>can't detect red lights, road markings, bad roads, roads in need of maintenance, etc
>implying the average anglo can
Anglos speed too God damn much for no reason. Why are they always in a hurry to prep the bull?
>>79357924
Reminds me of the Dead-Hand system Russia most likely still has in operation. Wish us all luck.
>>79357110
Under appreciated kangaroo post
Yes yes well done Elon, well done Elon. However
>>79359542
>"The car can detect red lights, but can't stop at them yet. I'm expecting that in a future update."
They released that shit to the public? Are they fucking insane?
>>79356132
His smugness is apparent even from that innocent quote
Maybe he was watching the scene in The Chamber of Secrets where Ron drives the flying Ford Anglia
>>79359975
It's not a self-driving car, it's more like super-cruise control. But idiots think because it has a fancy name like "autopilot" that means the car will drive itself all the time.
>>79359159
Ya, but how many fucking people use auto pilot?
Which is worse 1/5 auto pilot users? or 6million out of 10 trillion car users.?
>>79359975
>american
>complaining about people not stopping at red light
This thread is ridiculously cringeworthy.
Perhaps I am just brazilian and all I know for traffic are monkeys riding cars.
But the level of hypocrisy in this thread is out of the charts.
Why is /pol/ so threatened by auto-pilots?
>>79359721
I'm not sure I'd trust it even on an empty straight road.
>>79359975
I guess they're so keen on getting that technology out there for some reason, they released it with some major shortfalls.
>>79356992
There are a lot of variables that people don't take into account, people who think that computers can do everything. Unless you develope a highly intelligent AI system to account for all sorts of shit that one might not even consider.
Take driving a massive rig for example. Normally you would think it is easy for a computer to take into account the weight of the load and even weather conditions in order to stop safely. But what about when you get into city conditions, when driving a truck you need to look several lights ahead and anticipate traffic conditions because you can't just slam on the breaks. You need to be aware of the conditions of your tires. You need to be super aware of the other cars on the road, because they aren't going to be aware of you. You need to be aware coming out of tunnels because sometimes the sudden wind can swerve your trailer. You have to watch out for deer running across the road. You have to be worried about bridge heights.
>>79359542
>recording yourself intentionally breaking the speed limits
>>79356992
>Not to mention what the hell does one do when the computer sensors break down?
according to OP's article, you die.
sounds great huh?
>>79360152
That's what I mean, how many people will misinterpret that. I mean, how does this guy know that it can see red lights but can't stop? I assume he didn't just test it, and must have read it in some Tesla literature, how many people are going to get to the line "can see red lights" and assume it will drive itself? Again, they must be begging to legal troubles.
>>79356992
t. Asshurt petrofag
Tesla is the only American car maker that deserves to exist at this point faggatron
>>79360216
Go be stupid somewhere else mudshit
>>79360216
>Why is /pol/ so threatened by auto-pilots?
because they think trucks are sky?
because they can't stop at red lights?
because most proponents of them claim they will one day make driving your own car illegal?
>>79360216
Why have Huehues been such nonsensical little rat-like things, lately, always looking to gnaw at others' feets, looking for a fight no one cares about? Too much negative press between the presidential scandal and the crashing and burning Olympic construction?
>>79360490
>>79360483
I'd rather have a million auto-pilots than a single drunk person on wheels.
>>79358450
Then at least when you die it's your own fault, and not something else's.
And what's wrong with manual?
>>79360579
A million autopilots that literally can't stop at a red light is a lot more dangerous than one drunk guy.
>trusting a computer to get it right
>ever
shit automatic transmissions cant get it right the majority of the time. and you are trusting your life with pajiit to not poo in your code?
you are either brave, or retarded.
i barely trust the standard ecu working with o2 sensors to do its job correctly.
give me a full manual car with a Spartan layout any day.
>>79359777
>>79360216
can anyone make any sense of what the monkey is trying to say?
>>79358741
>Programmers will get better
whatever you say phajeet
>>79360724
Call Ahmed. He always makes your wife talk in tongues.
>>79355729
>deserved it
Friendly reminder that human error behind the wheel kills 95 people a day in America
>>79355729
At least he died being a smug, progressive cunt. It's a little easier to accept if you're doing something you love.
>>79355729
Imagine being Emma Watson in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Rupert Grint, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your red hair and doughy lumpy blubber face. I would totally have sex with you, both my character and the real me." when all she really wants to do is fuck another 21 year old chad in her dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be Emma Watson and not only stand around in the rubble while Rupert flaunts his freckly visage in front of you, the bright sunlight barely concealing his bright red hair, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while he perfected that speech scene. Not only having to tolerate his corpulant fucking visage but his haughty attitude as everyone on set tells him he's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, RUPERT ACTS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch his doughy fucking butter face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of chads and BBCs and later alleged rape victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in England. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on his bulbous forehead as he sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and revel in his "statuesque (for that is what he calls himself)" physique, the physique he worked so hard for with personal trainers in the previous months. And then the director calls for another take, and you know you could fuck every single person in this room before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Emma Watson. You're not going to tarnish your acting career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
>>79360880
This.
/pol/ is too busy talking about how auto-pilots are bad because they don't understand it.
This entire thread has no arguements.
That manchild knew the risks.
By the way, /pol/, if a car accident ever happens as a result of an auto-pilot malfunction, who is to blame legally and financially for the damage?
The driver, the manufacturers or the jews?
>>79360613
>And what's wrong with manual?
It borders between Luddism and a FLAC-tier self delusion.
>>79361105
autism, not even once
>"ALL CARS WILL BE SELF-DRIVING IN A DECADE! TRUST ME GUYS!"
"Self-driving cars" is basically the new "flying cars"
>>79361159
I think you need to get in a Tesla and drive to a red light.
You'll really prove your "argument" then, ;^)
>>79361233
t. never learned stick
>>79361105
You think too highly of a low IQ feminist.
>>79361323
The difference is that there was never a flying car running around everyday.
You fucker don't know anything.
t. someone who actually works on auto-pilot
>>79361159
manufacturer unless the auto pilot is advertised as flawed and on own risk.
>>79355729
dude is 100% at fault. Autopiolet doesnt mean you can just sit back and relax. Still have to look at your own surroundings.
Fucking moron got what he deserved and i can't see tesla getting in trouble one bit for this.
>>79356992
Self driving car denial posts are my favorite. They'll be mainstream in less than ten years.
Countless lives will be saved without human error
Travel times will be cut with perfectly coordinated traffic
Air will be cleaner with fewer cars on the road
Families will need fewer cars per household once driverless cars
Insurance rates will go down
A portion of auto service shops will close down
Fuel prices will go down
Prices for freight goods will go down
Society will be much better off for it
>>79361578
this
>>79361415
Tell me when self-driving cars are going to dominate the traffic then? I'm curious to know...
>>79361105
at some points it doesn't quite fit.
good work nonetheless
>>79357503
You can remotely control regular cars already.
>>79361578
with the decrease of fuel price i can afford to drive my quad turbo twincharged 450 longblock manual diesel.
>>79356132
TOP LEL
>>79361641
As soon as the state legally defines who is to compensate damages financially.
Obama has given the first steps this year to pass a general regulation for auto-piloting cars.
As soon as congress actually votes for one code, we'll have auto-pilot everywhere.
There are technically already models which can park by themselves and have auto-breaks that will mechanically brake you car with 100 times more reflexes than your average human.
We live in enlightened times. Calling auto-pilot a "science-fiction" is just ridiculous.
>>79361578
I seriously doubt ten years. The main reason being that not everyone can afford a brand new car and the government can't, or won't at least, force people to buy one. The same reason why you see people driving around 30 year old cars and older today even thought they would get shit on by a modern safety or emissions test.
Elon Musk LITERALLY wants to be Dr. Robotnik
>be genius inventor
>help the government win a war by building a robot army
>use your robot army to stage a coup d'etat
>turn citizens into mindless robot slaves
This was his plan ALL ALONG
>>79361159
You need to learn about proportion.
>>79355729
>>79356992
So what? Unmanned cars have way lower collision rates than manned ones. It will only get better in the future.
>>79361823
It wont be allowed onto public roads you small dicked faggot.
>>79361884
I'm not asking about the kind of self-driving auto-pilot that can assist you parking and have brake-sensors. I'm asking about 100% self-driving cars that can navigate even the most complicated traffic AMONGST unpredictable HUMAN drivers on icy roads.
Why is everyone that shills self-driving cars such an insufferably smug, freedom-hating faggot?
Makes me want them to fail as repeatedly and as horribly as possible just to shut these cunts up.
>>79361956
That's a good show.
>>79358029
Yeah except if it's centrally controlled that means I could hijack every single vehicle on the road at the same time before accelerating all of them to 100 miles an hour into a sudden, jerky turn. Hundreds of millions of people would die, roads would become impassable, emergency services useless.
>>79361233
>It borders between Luddism and a FLAC-tier self delusion.
this right here is autism.
>>79362289
I seriously doubt that any system with that degree of government oversight could be broken to that badly and even if it was broken would probably have internal redundant safety solutions out the ass. Considering remote communications are used for everything from billion dollar spacecraft to dropping bombs I'd say that they're pretty confident in their security measures.
>>79361942
Mainstream in that you'll be able to buy them from every major automaker and services like Uber use driverless cars.
He was asleep and/or jerking off to hermoine.
>>79362177
I can tell you with 101% certainty that a computer will handle your icy roads far better than a human being.
Just like computers beat humans in chess, productivity, spotting, standard recognition and everything they've made to do.
Your average driver has no idea what to do scientifically in an ice road. They just do whatever they think is appropriate and hope for the best.
You're very ignorant and shouldn't talk about what you can't understand.
>>79362182
technophiles are in love with the idea that they're unusually rational, and that their Popular Science understanding of artificial intelligence amounts to a mandate for a benevolent computer dictator to govern us using bayesian utilitarianism
it's stupid and no real scientist is guilty of this, which is one of the many reasons why elon musk is not a real scientist
>>79361377
>he doesn't know how to write with a quill
>>79358741
>No one talks about drunk drivers
Wut, it is attacked by the media everyday here, it is as bad as pedophilia
>>79362740
You'll die without ever dreaming of doing 1/10 of what Elon Musk has done for the industry of automation.
Not accepting him as a scientist is just retarded.
>>79362625
Then half the shit you listed probably wouldn't come about since the auto cars would still have to maneuver about conventional cars.
Even if that wasn't the case I would still seriously doubt 10 years, like this anon posted
>>79360255
there's a lot of shit that you need to take into account when driving. Obviously it's theoretically possible to make something to control it but if you made an AI that could do what he posted on a grand scale it would probably be the most sophisticated artificial intelligence ever created by man. 10 years to make something like that seems incredibily optimistic to me.
>>79359975
Human beta testers. Tesla is a beta test on a massive scale
Elon Musk does not give one fuck about making money or shareholders. To that maniac, money is a form of potential energy.
Not excusing the Tesla driver, but I'm fucking sick of these piece of shit truck drivers pulling out in front of people. Don't pull out in front of someone it requires them to hit the brakes...
>>79359366
No, thats Bolivia, they are amerindian subhumans
Everybody knows that the illuminati is pushing for self driving cars so they can take control of the car and execute people.
>>79355729
Could of seen this coming, hell in the movie industry the tracking in our compositing programs is way less then perfect and it doesn't happen in real time.
>>79362852
>You'll die without ever dreaming of doing 1/10 of what Elon Musk has done for the industry of automation.
i already work on problems that i think are more important
>Not accepting him as a scientist is just retarded.
he's a businessman whose business is R&D
>>79363088
Self-driving cars don't need to be connected to online services.
Go be retarded somewhere else, Canacuck.
>>79362730
I'm not just talking about icy roads. I put that in there to spice it up. You still didn't answer my question.
>Just like computers beat humans in chess, productivity, spotting, standard recognition and everything they've made to do.
Driving has a lot more aspects to it than chess etc.
>>79355729
What a fag! Proud to say Ive never seen one of those movies and my cousin has read all the books even da fuk!?
>>79363341
The bell is tolling soon for Hillary Rodham Clinton,
TRUMP 16! Watch now!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s2h92qYu_sg
>>79356992
>order a cab ride.
oldfag detected
>>79363144
He's the Steve Jobs of automation.
This guy is literally bringing the 21th century to your car.
Once he finds out the legal and technical conditions to have a car like that on the street, the entire market will be flooded with self-controlling devices.
Naturally /pol/ won't use it because of the jews or whatever.
>>79363267
Holy crap.
Humans and computers suffer the exact same variants. But computers can actually measure and calculate every single variable.
While a human only follows their instinct, computers actually can calculate the right course of action. They can calculate the distance to the nearest cars, the difference between the intended speed and their driving speed (this allows them to calculate the effect of the roads) and then they can share that data with nearby cars too. The same goes to wind and bad drivers.
To think any manufacturer won't normalize for this basic shit you're suggesting is a joke.
This is completely NOT an arguement. You don't know anything, Denmark. And you're ridiculously arrogant about your obvious ignorance.
It is annoying as fuck.
>>79363017
Spoken like someone who's never sat behind the wheel of anything with more than 6 wheels and 8 gears.
i hate brazil now
>>79363501
Go be a car salesman somewhere else.
>wanting a car that can't see a fucking wall right in front of it
lmao, teslacucks BTFO
>>79356992
self driving cars will be fine once everyone has one, but until then, they can fuck off
Human driving + passive AI backup is the safest and that alone is a reason to develop self-driving cars.
>>79363748
Look at your city and find me a single lightpole that hasn't ever been crashed by a car.
>>79355729
Wasn't the first car accident between two drivers in the US in Ohio as well in like 1901?
>>79363501
It's okay brazil. We'll see a ton of automated cars in our lifetime. Everything will be improved by it. If we are lucky, we'll live to see the day where non-automated cars are illegal in certain areas. It'll be bliss when we can remove human error. And people think it won't be for decades, we have it now with the google car. It just needs to be made cheaper and consumer available.
>>79363802
Active AI with no possible way for the driver to override is the safest
>>79358450
The technology isn't there yet.
Also you are a child.
Hurrr when I am old enuff to drive I will hate stick shift still.
> tfw even if auto pilot driving becomes "common", you will disable it
>>79364004
Why did this make the news?
It was some 40 year old fat faggot Jew (who apparently had no wife and kids).
It's not like it was a hot chick or anything.
Tons of ugly people die in car crashes every day. Who gives a shit.
Is the purpose of the article perhaps to instill fear in this technology?
>>79364215
Exactly.
>>79364215
I'd say it's pretty justified to warn the public about self described "autopilot" that can't stop at a fucking redlight.
>Watching movie
>scene with Voldemort killing Harry Potter
>Avada Cadavr-
>CRASH
RIP
>>79364069
Nigger steps in front of your autonomous car. Car stops. Turns out he just wanted to hand you a bouquet of flowers. Good thing we got rid of your ability to just step on the fucking gas.
>>79363861
theres a difference between driver error and computer error
tesla fags are always going on about how safe their cars are and shit and now they just had one drive right into an obstacle killing the driver
>>79357407
Thats not trendy
>>79364069
>If we are lucky, we'll live to see the day where non-automated cars are illegal in certain areas.
I hope enough "pioneers" in self driving cars die that your dystopian liberal shithole future never comes true.
>>79364640
He agreed to ride in dangerous speeds in a prototype.
What happened is more than justified.
The machine that the public will get will be 1000 times better.
Yet /pol/ will still claim it is dangerous and needs to be deported.
>>79363501
>He's the Steve Jobs of automation.
Steve Jobs was also not a scientist
>This guy is literally bringing the 21th century to your car.
Artificial intelligence researchers are doing this. Lawyers and policymakers are determining the conditions. Elon Musk is funding SOME of it, and is taking the credit. The evidence suggests that the portions Musk is funding are not as successful as other groups' efforts.
I'll use a self-driving car when it's rational, e.g. when it isn't prefaced by a weasel ToS that tries to shift liability off the manufacturer.
>>79364069
>Active AI with no possible way for the driver to override is the safest
Encourages the driver to go to sleep or watch Harry Potter. Humans are a terrible backup just watch the classical movie trope of the passenger swerving the car into the opposing lane.
>>79364705
>dystopian liberal shithole future
>100 lives saved in America everyday
>no more drunk driving
>no more sleep driving
>faster traffic
>scientifically assured roads
>>79364812
He's proved you can make money and fame off it.
That's all that matters.
>>79364862
>Humans are a terrible backup just watch the classical movie trope of the passenger swerving the car into the opposing lane.
Exactly why they shouldn't be backups at all. Google has it right when they don't even put a steering wheel in
>...said the Tesla driver was "watching Harry Potter on the TV screen" and driving so quickly that "he went so fast through my trailer I didn't see him."
Yes, yes, well done Tesla, well done Tesla, HOWEVER....
>>79364897
>self driving cars will save lives
>elon musk made money, "that's all that matters"
you're kind of sending mixed signals
This whole story is too suspicious to be true.
I think this asshole did not even know that he had auto-pilot disabled.
>>79356975
> truck driver knows how to drive
> sees car
> has enough time to cross if driver is driving speed limit
> if driver is speeding, can slow down enough for truck
> telsa breaking speed limit
> does not slow
> musk gets btfo
>>79364096
You'll have to disable it when it snows. Good luck autopiloting when road sludge is frozen on the sensors.
>>79364897
>government gains ability to fully monitor and control the movement of everyone, ever, but manufacturers deny it
>cars routinely contract instant autism/think walls are sky/etc. and kill their driver for no net gain in safety, but its blamed on human error/insufficient maintenance/etc. so its not reflected in statistics
>everyone lives in the fucking Panopticon from now on
No thanks. I'll just keep laughing each time one of you cargo cultists die because your autistic robot failed at something elementary and watch your dream join the dustbin of history with solar frikkin roadways and smell-o-vision.
I hope it was magical. J K Rowling be proud.
>>79357696
>We le humans are incapable of le fast computation XD Not unlike computers. Le human can only remember 100 digits of PI, le computer can calculate up to 500 trillion, undoubtable proof that le computer is way more smart.
>I can't wait to surrender my life to the control of algorithms, that would make me look as a pretty smart guy, so technocrat, robots are my slaves, they make my life better all the time XD. Also, I'd love to have Musk's cum spread all over my ass.
When will this fucking meme die? For real.
>>79358741
Nigger im a programmer too and you and I both know it will be decades before true self driving becomes a thing. How would a camera distinguish a bright white skyline with the white on the pavement if they are both the same color? Some kind of depth scanner (more accurate than we have now) that has yet to be invented? Its literally fucking impossible at this current point in time. Dont get me wrong i'd use the autopilot in a Tesla but im damn sure keeping my eyes on the road. I cant wait till get one so I can take fat bong rips on the freeway with ease.
>>79361578
>1 solar credit has been deposited to your tesla account. Remember, only 100,000,000 for a free 1-hour test drive on a Model S!
>>79365430
Your whole brain is just a crude algorithm, what is this biology worshiping in this thread?
How will you teach a self-driving car to make a u-turn and exceed the speeding-limit to save your life when a nigger stands up ahead and is pointing a gun at your car? How will you teach it to be able to distinguish from a nigger with a real gun and a large teenager with a water-pistol?
Some things you will just never be able to teach AI unless we make QUANTUM LEAPS in AI
>>79361578
This.
It's like when planes/tanks/rockets first came out, they were slow as shit (well, not rockets) and had a ton of problems. Look at them now
>>79365279
Right. And when your windshield gets foggy, you just stop and wait for that to go away?
>>79365643
All the AI needs to do is be safer than you, your hypothetical scenarios are pretty desperate
Not related at all, but does anyone have the Pepe version of pic related? It's fucking killing me, I know I've seen it before
>>79358643
>You're dead.
>Oh silly! You forgot to turn-on the anti-death feature.
>Oh ok, I guess.
>>79365529
>depth scanner
> not invented
> impossible
stick to being a code monkey
>>79365529
Apparently a terrible one. You know we have AI that drives the google car to near perfection. Your a retard if you think humans could tell the difference between a white skyline and white pavement but a computer couldn't. What do you do, manage old wordpress sites?
>>79365611
There is no greater general intelligence on earth than the human brain, and it's going to stay that way for a long long time judging by the state of current AI. The more complex the task, the more general your intelligence needs to be. There are many other critical tasks that aren't automated yet either because making the AI is incredibly difficult.
>>79365668
Yeah and that was a hundred years ago.
Not ten.
>>79365965
>there is no greater intelligence on Earth than the human brain
In the country that invented feminism?
>>79355729
SHORT TESLA
H
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>>79359159
'cause no one cares about brazilians dying, we've seen the liveleak videos, know what you brazilians are like.
>>79366059
TESLA BTFO
>>79366046
>>79366046
You missed the "general" part.
Go be stupid somewhere else mudshit
>>79366315
BUY BUY BUY
U
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>>79365965
>There is no greater general intelligence on earth than the human brain
Like the AI that beat the go champion?
>The more complex the task, the more general your intelligence needs to be
The more complex the task, the fewer people can do it until no one can do it at a certain standard.
>There are many other critical tasks that aren't automated yet either because making the AI is incredibly difficult.
Humans have to make AI which is difficult for them, the beauty of AI is its consistency and performance. A lot of these algorithms that you are bashing on are created by the humans you are glorifying. Humans are only good for their creativity.
Was the truck driver a beaner?
>>79358741
Please do, I hate driving and I hate car enthusiasts. What the fuck is so great about cars anyways? Should I start bragging about what kind of laundry machine I have? Maybe talk about the specs of my toaster too?
I hate how people think that being forced to drive everywhere is "freedom". What a crock of shit. Any other country will offer multiple different ways to travel to your destination- from trains, to buses, to cabs, to buggies, to cars and even *gasp* walking in a city thats actually walkable- but in America were stuck with driving everywhere and paying out the ass to insure and maintain a glorified metal box with wheels.
The faster this cancer stops, the better.
>>79366536
>Like the AI that beat the go champion?
Not a general intelligence. That's a very simple task relatively speaking.
Here, have a fun video I found in literally 2 seconds on google.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlS5Y2vm02c
>>79366710
>2016
>still driving the jew over wheels
>>79366536
>Like the AI that beat the go champion?
What a great example of a general intelligence.
>>79366720
What is this red herring, you don't need general intelligence to create AI that drives safer than humans, just like you don't need general intelligence to outsmart the human go opponent.
>>79366720
Believing random science cuck who makes 10 minute videos on the internet and calls himself a technologist.
>>79367011
The point is that it isn't a binary choice, it's a sliding scale. The more complex the task the more general you need to be. Playing a board game with a set of clearly defined rules and parameters is in no way comparable to the complexity of conducting hundreds, thousands, millions of cars at once taking into account every variable that human drivers do already.. Such an AI would be godlike compared to what is currently available.
It's no just red means stop green means go.
>>79364897
>That's all that matters.
I really hope the shitty self-driving AI that you're supposedly developing never hits the road.
>>79366710
>I hate driving and I hate car enthusiasts.
(You)
(Numale faggot)
>>79365611
Trust me, your worldview will change when you grow out of puberty.
>>79367260
I expressed myself badly.
Why do you even want cars anyway, Mexico?
It is not like the wall will have tunnels for you to sneak drugs in.
>>79366536
>Like the AI that beat the go champion?
Do you actually know much about AI or go?
I'm not trying to insult you. The games (particularly 4 and 5) displayed both the strengths and weaknesses of bots. The takeaway was a lot more interesting & complicated than "AIs can beat top human players now" although unfortunately that's mostly what got reported. Really, the last half of the match was fuck-bananas insane.
>>79355729
The semi driver is smug as fuck, and I don't blame him at all. Fuck retarded consumer yuppies.
>>79367422
Oh my god! You killed me with your very original memes dude! :'(
>>79367256
Google's self-driving car is already comparable to humans if not better. All the accidents it received are said to not be the fault of the self-driving car. This means that if everyone uses self-driving cars, the accident rate will compound inversely since they all synchronize with each other. That means in the future we can anticipate much more safety from computer algorithms as opposed to human algorithms.
Humans are only needed for imagination, everything that can be automated should be automated so we can spend more time doing what we do best.
>>79367383
Great argument amigo
>>79367465
I know the GO world champion got rekt way too hard. Computers have perfect memory and learn orders of magnitude faster. We should use them for what they are best at.
>>79368128
We are finally turning the thread around.
Ignorant fear-mongerers have no place on /pol/.
>>79368128
>All the accidents it received are said to not be the fault of the self-driving car.
Even looking at the wiki page for google cars shows that not to be true.
> Google addressed the crash, saying “In this case, we clearly bear some responsibility, because if our car hadn’t moved there wouldn’t have been a collision.
The google car has only been tested on relatively small scales under more controlled parameters than typical cars.
>the latest prototype has not been tested in heavy rain or snow due to safety concerns.[51] Because the cars rely primarily on pre-programmed route data, they do not obey temporary traffic lights and, in some situations, revert to a slower "extra cautious" mode in complex unmapped intersections. The vehicle has difficulty identifying when objects, such as trash and light debris, are harmless, causing the vehicle to veer unnecessarily. Additionally, the lidar technology cannot spot some potholes or discern when humans, such as a police officer, are signaling the car to stop
>>79361105
No, your describing my ex but she is just willing to fuck anything that gives her a good time
>>79364215
>died watching Harry Potter
>Jew
Good new guys, Jews aren't nearly the threat we thought they were.
>>79368363
You're part of those class of people who thought the internet was impossible to create and maintain. I'll let your sensing personality type revel in fear at the thought of a better future.
>>79368946
Not an argument
>>79368946
>hooking up phone lines is impossible to create and maintain
wat?
>>79361956
SnoPING AS usual I see..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y20OQJ8rOHs
>>79355729
>Hopefully it was Goblet of Fire.
Don't you mean Chamber of Secrets?
Almost reminds me of the urban legend of the man who went to sleep while his RV veered off the road because he put it in cruise control; like other anons have stated, you're an imbecile if you are willing to fully trust an "autopilot system" such as the ones featured in Teslas. Just the other day in my town, we had a lady in a Tesla SUV crash into a building because she was using the autopark feature.
>>79355729
This is so fucking satisfying.
>"It was still playing when he died and snapped a telephone pole a quarter mile down the road,"
Oh fucking christ my sides.
>>79359964
Jej
>>79362625
Driverless cars will never ever in a million years be street-legal. The law is always going to require a driver in there as a safety precaution.
>le AI is smart meme
Come back when AI teams can beat pro dota teams
>>79369868
back to where you came from
>>79356103
This
Seems like self driving cars would only work if there was NO human drivers, random assorted car colors and clearer painted lines/markers.
>>79356992
Go away /o/
>>79355729
Self-driving cars should require you to have both hands on the wheel and a foot on the brake pedal.
>>79355729
>didn't automatically activate its brakes,
So was the car being driven automatically or did it just not break automatically?
I didnt know that was possible yet.. what fucking florida roads have that fucking technology
if this happened in may, why are we just now hearing about it?
>>79355729
Good riddance, one less fucking smug faggot in the world.
I don't even care about auto pilot and all this electric car shit; I'm gonna drive an old carburated manual my entire life anyway. 'Gonna buy an aircooled and fix it by myself whenever it breaks, and that's it.
Fucking lazy people.
Would these self driving cars allow you to be drunk while in it?
>>79355729
>be me
>be college bartender
>be glorified bottle opener for design convention big shots
>all of them salivating over new driverless technology
>all anyone can talk about is how "safe" it is
>literally no other points except "safe" and "easy"
>not one objection on moral or philosophical grounds
>guy comes back to bar
>"Bud Light. Pretty cool stuff, huh?"
>forget my mouth is professionally zipped for the day
>"Hell no, that's some scary Aasimov shit right there."
>pause
>He laughs and swaggers back to his seat
They were talking about entire cities on automated grids. Fucking terrifying
>>79355729
>tfw you have white line detection, adaptive cruise, collision avoidance and driver alertness and still would never tell anyone you had "autopilot" let alone kick back and watch a movie, hands off.
The Google car, this guy had not. Beautiful vehicle though.
>>79355729
imagine your sexy robot waifu is giving you a blow job and something jammed or was jammed by your former wife, for that reason, and it won't stop
Frank Baressi, 62, the driver of the tractor-trailer and owner of Okemah Express LLC, said the Tesla driver was "watching Harry Potter on the TV screen" and driving so quickly that "he went so fast through my trailer I didn't see him."
Fucking lol
If he was watching the first movie Im calling meme magic
>>79370754
>Denuvo goes into the waifu market
>anti piracy measure for waifus will literally EAT your dick
dammm
>>79370754
Kek
>>79361105
holy shit that was solid. Damn near perfect take on a prime plate of pasta.
8/10
>>79370270
It's the car, not the road, you moron.
I would only be ok with self driving cars if
1:they allowed a manual driving backup system like in I robot
2.I had complete and utter control of the algorithm.I don't want some accident occurring and my car could increase my chances of survival to the highest amount possible,but it detects some government official or tycoon in the other car so 'sacrifices' my life for his safety.
3.It put my life as a top priority,then everyone else in the car,then everyone outside the car.
>>79361159
>company/city controls where people drive
>company/city controls what routes they can take
>people become incompetent drivers on the whole due to negligence
>people become dependent on a higher power to continue to supply them with transportation.
Yeah, I know all I need to.
>>79364897
>I don't drink and drive
>I don't text and drive
>I don't drive while tired
>I don't speed
>muh """scientifically assured""" roads
Yet you want to ban me from driving, even when I go out of my way to minimize distractions and acknowledge that every time I drive I take a risk.
That was completely retarded, you would think a tech savvy always prepared for a worst case scenario.
>>79355729
haha hilarious
>>79368128
>All the accidents it received are said to not be the fault of the self-driving car.
lolbullshit
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/09/google-self-driving-car-crash-video-accident-bus
>>79359159
>10 self driving cars
vs
>3 billion civilian cars
As my stats teacher said: NEED MORE DATA
>>79365430
it'll never die as long as the faggoty reddit tesla cum slurping idiots are around. tech, kike starter, video game pre order and start up worshippers need to die
>>79356132
FUCK you for making me laugh out loud I'm trying to be a good person.
>>79362576
>I seriously doubt that any system with that degree of government oversight could be broken
When can we expect the first pedestrian getting killed by one of these?
>>79371631
The worst part is one of the biggest advertising features of electric cars is that "they're electric and good for the environment."
Ignore the extremely damaging components in the batteries, and the fact that two thirds of pollution in America, an already relatively clean country, comes from POWER PLANTS. Your Tesla with its stupid looking keys won't save the planet. Assuming that 100% of cars became electric in 20 years [news flash: they won't] you're not doing anything.
>>79371875
>I seriously doubt that any system with that degree of government oversight won't be abused by said government
>>79371904
When the geniuses over at the far-left raise speed limits to 100 MPH because of their infallible technology.
>>79357653
>You could say the same about regular cars
No you can't. Its like giving every one a handgun or giving 1/1000000 a nuke.
It's a new technology.
It's going to kill a few people before the kinks are worked out.
Still worth it
>>79362576
>I seriously doubt that any system with that degree of government oversight could be broken
BAN ASSAULT SELF-DRIVING CARS
>>79359366
That's also Ireland lol
>>79372492
Although instead of mountains its valleys of backwards peasants that burn people in statues.
>>79365430
>Mexican "intellectuals"
At least read his post before you go full retard, Paco. He was implying that humans are shitty drivers in the first place, and anything, even a car that drives itself will be a better driver.
>>79356992
They will be for sale in under 5 years. In 20 it will be the only kind of car you can legally buy. Mark my words.
>>79372899
>In 20 it will be the only kind of car you can legally buy.
They better not be.
