A man has been killed while using Tesla autopilot.
https://www.teslamotors.com/blog/tragic-loss
>>79337781
>BAN CARS!
>trusting a computer with your life
Apex kek
>>79337781
What's the deal with libcucks and their fascination with tesla?
i wish i had a lawnmower with autopilot
>>79337781
>This is the first known fatality in just over 130 million miles where Autopilot was activated. Among all vehicles in the US, there is a fatality every 94 million miles. Worldwide, there is a fatality approximately every 60 million miles
So it's still working. Good to know. Gonna buy one ASAP.
>>79338434
I guarantee you they are using some fuzzy math to skew those stats.
>>79338592
You underestimate the retardation of the average driver.
>>79337781
>tries to share the blame with the owner who trusted this shit
>>79338208
the owner is a super libcuck
THE GLORIOUS TRANS HUMANISTIC FUTURE OF HUM...oh wait, shit.
>>79338996
>HOW DARE THEY STATE FACTS
It's merely mentioning that no brake was applied by either the auto or driver. You're seriously trying to find the flimsiest shit to complain about. Just like an SJW. Fuck off.
How many other RTAs have there been today?
>>79337781
it has begun , robots already ploting against humans , "we" are fucked
>>79338208
muh alternative to oil wars
>that after hours stock drop
Should I wait a few days for this to blow over and pick up some shares?
>>79338996
you have to supervise the prototype software at all times while driving
because that's what it is, quick to-market prototype fluff
Dead faggots never fail to make me smile.
>Trusting (((computers))) with your life
>>79339878
>>79339813
>>79339519
>>79339421
see: >>79338434
>Trusting humans with your life
BAN ASSAULT VEHICLES!
>trusting a south african invention
The problem is that your common pleb doesn't understand what autopilot actually is.
Whether it's a plane or a car, you're still supposed to pay attention. Autopilot is an assist function, not something to rely upon.
I can't wait for self-driving cars. Nothing turns a person into an aggressive, psychotic asshole faster than putting them behind the wheel of an automobile.
>>79337781
It just says there was an accident involving the autopilot, it doesn't specify who was at fault. Whenever there's been an accident with these automated cars it has always been a human problem; they either were crashed into by another person or the person using the autopilot was a stupid fuck that didn't know how to use it. You're not supposed to just turn it on and take a nap, it's an assistant, you're still required to be attentive and have hands on steering wheel in case you need to override anything. I bet this was another stupid human error. Gas all humans.
>>79339471
Don't get me wrong alternatives to that would be great.
But there's like a religious fervor around Musk. Seems to me he just pays people to invent things then pockets the profits. He's basically like billionaire 'ideas guy' or like a Steve Jobs 2.0.
>>79338347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMOASdSu9YU
>>79340150
>The problem is that your common pleb doesn't understand what autopilot actually is.
Then maybe they shouldn't call it autopilot.
>>79337781
imagine when this shit is mass produced
>>79337781
>Ban car computers
>Ban cars
>Ban Tesla
>Ban not using your brain
>>79340384
because airplane autopilot can land and take off right?
>>79340150
the retard could have saved his own life by braking it's his fault. the cars aren't fully autonomous yet
>>79340341
>Seems to me he just pays people to invent things then pockets the profits
That is literally what he does.
Have you ever heard him talk about his own ideas? He's borderline retarded.
>>79340538
neither the car or him noticed it because of the sun
>>79340341
just like steve jobs, tesla does a lot of product placement and I bet also PR. one thing is for certain, the journalists love to write fan stories about him and his projects.
>>79337781
No-one could have predicted it!
I am in utter shock.
Surely he must have been doing something wrong!
>>79340535
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoland
>>79337781
But did it kill the other innocent people?
>>79340285
Semitruck wandered into the other lane, computer couldn't tell the difference between the bright sky and the bright white side of the truck.
Tesla became wedged under the trailer, cutting the roof off. I'm assuming the driver was decapitated.
The funny thing is all the tech websites I go to are saying shit along the lines of
>W-w-well if the computer couldn't tell the difference between the sky and the trailer then the human obviously couldn't either!! haha, we win!
>>79337781
>https://www.teslamotors.com/blog/tragic-loss
>We learned yesterday evening that NHTSA is opening a preliminary evaluation into the performance of Autopilot during a recent fatal crash that occurred in a Model S. This is the first known fatality in just over 130 million miles where Autopilot was activated. Among all vehicles in the US, there is a fatality every 94 million miles. Worldwide, there is a fatality approximately every 60 million miles. It is important to emphasize that the NHTSA action is simply a preliminary evaluation to determine whether the system worked according to expectations.
They know shareholders are about to react.
>>79340367
Needs a wider pole
>>79340538
he got tricked ;)
>>79340693
yeah he didn't intervene
A tragic loss
>>79340874
>>W-w-well if the computer couldn't tell the difference between the sky and the trailer then the human obviously couldn't either!! haha, we win!
It's honestly going to be a simple fix for them.
>>79340886
The difference being that autopilot only works on the highway, but they are counting all roads, not just highways, in that statistic.
It's very misleading.
>>79340720
now you're just nitpicking
the pilot(s) are still required to be present and attentive
nothing's changed
>>79340886
Stat wise it looks good, yes, but if it emerges the system was directly responsible even once, it's ogre.
You're not supposed to take your concentration off the road with autopilot on. This idiot probably fell asleep or something.
>>79341084
Agreed, this is the only reason I can see for him not noticing the semi truck.
Again, tech sites are saying the driver was awake and also couldn't tell the difference between the sky and the truck.
>>79341049
They have to be that way, any market doubt in their product will kill the share price and SolarCity already dropped the PPS for Tesla.
Can't wait till people realize Tesla is a shit company with more ambition than sense.
>>79341046
Yes, yes, we can fix it...
It was a good idea to begin with!
>>79341084
the automated auto people to a terrible job of communicating the technology then. It's always all about "yay I hate to drive! now I can use the time productively and the car does all the driving"
>>79339519
Their stocks have been shit for a while now
>>79341178
I'd like to see this invisible truck
>>79341201
I don't think they're bad, but I sure as fuck do not want a car that drives itself, can be hacked, remotely controlled, etc.
I'd love to get the wreckage of one and salvage the motor and battery back. Put it into something small and light, a VFD for control and you would fly.
>>79338434
Switzerland gets it.
>>79338208
Green energy, space travel, robots. A better question is, what's the deal with conservadrones and their dislike for Tesla?
>>79340535
Yes.
>>79338687
>>79338434
>>79341389
They are counting highway miles only on the tesla, while they count all miles everywhere for human drivers.
They are using fuzzy math.
>>79337781
>1 post by this ID
Normally I wouldn't give two shits about this kind of thing, but I will take special exception here.
If OP, or any of you other faggots going on about how Tesla is to blame for this shit, had even fucking read the press release, you would have noticed how, not only does it basically say "DON'T STOP PAYING ATTENTION YOU DUMB FUCK", but that the driver didn't even TRY to stop the vehicle. I am definitely no Tesla apologist, but what the fuck, /pol/. Why do we have threads like this. Why have you allowed this fucktarded OP to start this shit?
>>79341387
>but I sure as fuck do not want a car that drives itself, can be hacked, remotely controlled, etc.
Yeah I completely agree, I don't think I'd ever switch to self driving unless it were made law. I actually enjoy driving so much I own a car and a bike. If I'm gonna die, I'd rather it be from my own fuck up.
>>79341084
Wtf are you talking about? They market it like that. They basically make it seem like it's going to be like riding on a train. Just set your destination and it will take you there. If you're going to sit in the drivers seat and constantly watch the road why the fuck wouldn't you just drive
>>79340285
> You're not supposed to just turn it on and take a nap, it's an assistant, you're still required to be attentive and have hands on steering wheel in case you need to override anything.
Which is why these kind of half-autopilots are so dangerous. Drive assists which help you keep lane and give force feedback when you try to change lanes when it's not safe are fine, but these kind of nearly but not quite automated systems pretty much guarantee inattentive drivers.
>>79341518
They marketed autopilot.
That "keep your hands on" shit is just to cover their asses for when their shit tech fails.
If you can't have real auto-pilot then don't include in the models and don't fucking sell it.
>>79340874
>if the computer couldn't tell the difference between the sky and the trailer then the human obviously couldn't either
He didn't brake. What does that tell you?
I really don't know how the sun could stop you from seeing a huge speeding tractor right to the left of you. no matter the color, i think i'd see a huge object there unless I was looking at the phone or being retarded in some way.
>>79341791
that the fucker was asleep or doing other shit and probably thought the auto-pilot would do everything for him.
>>79341482
Source for this? Or because autopilot is only used on highways, do you know for sure that the 94 and 60 million figure is counting non-highways?
Either way:
>Tesla disables Autopilot by default and requires explicit acknowledgement that the system is new technology and still in a public beta phase before it can be enabled. When drivers activate Autopilot, the acknowledgment box explains, among other things, that Autopilot “is an assist feature that requires you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times," and that "you need to maintain control and responsibility for your vehicle” while using it. Additionally, every time that Autopilot is engaged, the car reminds the driver to “Always keep your hands on the wheel. Be prepared to take over at any time.”
You can't blame the car for human stupidity.
>TFW tesla stock will crash to 170 bucks tomorrow.
The intersection.
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4105517,-82.5397859,19z/data=!3m1!1e3
>>79341731
>If you can't have real auto-pilot then don't include in the models and don't fucking sell it.
>Truck literally crossed the lanes and car ran into it
>Somehow this is the fault of the autopilot
>If an autopilot can't predict human error, it is flawed
Great job, I responded. I feel like I should have to say this, but kill yourself, etc.
>>79337781
>current year
>trusting computers with your life
Apparently the ride height of the semi's trailer was high enough for the cars computer to detect it so it just kept right on going to where it hit just above the windshield.
>>79341913
perfect time to buy honestly.
>>79341913
Well, the stock didn't see the truck, either.
>>79342012
*for the cars computer to NOT detect it. Fucking autocorrect.
The little kids here have probably never seen this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW8tf2_SQAs
>>79340874
Why the fuck doesn't it have depth cameras on all sides?
>>79342043
Kek
>>79341979
>Autopilot missed AN ENTIRE FUCKING TRAILER
It didn't miss because of human error, it is shit tech by a crap company. Get off Musk's dick.
>>79337781
The car could be perfect and someone could still figure out how to kill themselves with it.
They don't have to be perfect.. just better then human drivers IMO.
>>79342137
>cameras
why aren't they using lasers or sonar?
this is like the second accident i've seen regarding a tesla driving itself under a trailer.
aren't these like $100,000 cars?
>>79338060
>>trusting a computer with your life
If you read the text, the computers are much safer drivers than humans.
The road.
>>79341389
Corporate welfare.
>>79342401
so then the tesla autopilot should be disabled until it gets close to a retard
>>79342547
Did the truck run through without stopping?
>>79342490
they are you dumbass
>>79341731
Exactly, they clearly market it like you don't have to pay attention to the road. Nissan is currently working on the IDS autopilot car that actually allows you to rotate your seats inward so you can talk to people in the back
>>79342524
we don't know that, since drivers are supposed to supervise the autopilot most of the miles were double checked.
>>79342043
>>79342775
info on the lasers
ddg only has a forum post where some guy wants to add a laser to help it park in his car closet
BAN ASSAULT TRACTORS!
>>79342785
it's not the company's fault fags can't read the instructions
>>79342043
What difference does it make???
>>79342690
I personally think anyone who would ride in one without paying very close attention is a moron. I don't even like flyb by wire steering or pedals
>>79338208
they think it makes them look progressive because they think its futuristic. ever notice how many kids and teenagers obsess over science and space and stuff?
>>79342785
that looks like some terrible leg room
>>79343149
Huh? Why would they make seats that can rotate around to talk to people in the back if they expect you to keep your eyes on the road. When they first unveiled it the car seats fully rotated around to where the front and back were facing each other
>>79343149
the courts can argue otherwise
>>79343589
automation
>>79341380
Good luck, it's invisible :^)
With all due respect to the deceased, its important that plenty of people die using robot cars, otherwise these guys WILL figure out a way to make them mandatory and ban normal cars.
>>79342043
kek
It would be pretty comfy to have irobot style cars.
As long as you can take manual control and fuck shit up if you want. But knowing the way things are going that would be done away with too.
>>79343589
And then they decided that was a terrible idea. Because it could crash and you have to pay attention to a 3000 pound vehicle going 70mph.
>>79342775
Obviously not over the full view field, or it could never miss the trailer. A depth camera isn't like a simple distance sensor, it provides depth information based on ToF much like a normal camera provides color.
> Neither Autopilot nor the driver noticed the white side of the tractor trailer
A XBOX-One would not have been confused by a white truck against the sun.
>>79343699
Exactly. It's promoting the notion that you don't have to keep your eyes on the road because the car will drive itself. Mind you that's a pic of a mercedes so apparently they're building one too. The nissan did the same thing I just can't find a pic of it
>>79343149
Unveiling: Automated Driving!
>disclaimer: the automated driving feature is still in testing. It should not be left unsupervised. Letting the vehicle drive automatically without hands at wheel can result in injury and death.
>>79337781
> When drivers activate Autopilot, the acknowledgment box explains, among other things, that Autopilot “is an assist feature that requires you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times," and that "you need to maintain control and responsibility for your vehicle” while using it
Why the fuck do you need an autopilot if it's gonna be the same as driving?
>>79340220
This, driving in this country is rage inducing.
>>79343149
Remember anon, we had to lower the IQ standards for mental retardation to accommodate half of all Blacks. Companies are expected to make shit that is safe for them. It's why Blacks are largely in favor of big government and systems that won't allow them to fail.
>>79343941
You're crazy if you don't think that's their end goal. If you have to sit in the drivers seat constantly paying attention to the road. Then why wouldn't you just do the driving yourself
>>79341084
You cant not pay attention because the updates require you to grab the steering wheel every few minutes
>>79344131
and if you can't understand marketing vs. reality you will be removed from the gene pool. I don't see the big deal
>>79344141
Because it sucks right now.
>>79341178
Yes because they were in the situation and know exactly what happened. When was the last time you didn't notice a truck? The trailer may be white but I am willing to be the truck wasn't.
>>79340874
The semi was crossing the road... The article said it was perpendicular to the road he was traveling on... Basically the car went under the trailer and he was beheaded...
>>79337781
Tesla = Loss.
Musk = Loser.
Tesla = Scam.
Musk = Scammer.
>>79340894
that's not what your mom said
>>79337781
>What we know is that the vehicle was on a divided highway with Autopilot engaged when a tractor trailer drove across the highway perpendicular to the Model S. Neither Autopilot nor the driver noticed the white side of the tractor trailer against a brightly lit sky, so the brake was not applied.
Literally nothing
>>79340586
Well he developed paypal and then used the money gained from that to have other people do his work. You all praise Trump for doing the exact same thing.
isn't their system fully automated?
I'm pretty sure it's fully automated with them just saying that the driver has to keep their hands on the wheel so that they don't have to take the blame when their system fucks up?
>>79342212
a system in which cars are controlled by autopilot relies upon all cars being controlled by the same system to be most effective. i can't believe this has to be explained to you.
>>79339471
>my environmental policies make it where I have to go play in the sandbox to get oil instead of getting oil from America
>I have to power this electric car with coal to make the electricity, which I am doing my best to ban as well
>guess we'll power everything off of unicorn farts and frighteningly ineffective and inefficient and expensive solar panels
Liberals are divorced from any semblance of reality and can't see more than one layer deep.
>>79344384
you could just move the wheel a bit without even looking?
>>79344656
He never developed PayPal he was absorbed by it as menstrual blood into a tampon. Fuck off.
>>79344384
Two handed or one handed?
>>79337781
kek I hope it was a nigger
>>79344825
not mention they also are anti-nuclear
>>79344914
That depends whether anxious hairline mirror inspection mode is in operation or not.
>>79341873
>we put a disclaimer
>so he's an idiot for trusting our autopilot system implicitly
You can simplify this to:
>CYA, you are an idiot for trusting our auto pilot
Thanks for being a human guinea pig though you filthy fucking goy.
>>79338060
planes and ships have autopilots and you seem to trust them
plus cars have all kinds of electronics in them, hitting the gas doesn't actually send gas into the cylinders, it just tells a computer to do it. Same with braking and shifting gears with an automatic
Let's not get started on medical computers.
You're trusting computers with your life all the fucking time
>>79344669
exactly
turns out the notification isn't just a legal disclaimer though, failing to follow it actually puts you in high danger
>>79341948
Would it hurt them to build an overpass?
>>79342745
I'm guessing the truck driver didn't notice the Tesla.
>>79344759
...
According to your logic, which is unrelated to the original argument anyway, no company should even sell them without a government initiative to make all cars automated. So what is your point?
>>79344898
You've literally no idea of his past then you stupid slanty eyed gook.
He developed Zip2, sold it, developed X.com and merged with Confinity which had developed some PayPal stuff.
>>79337781
>auto-pilot cars
most retarded idea ever. no surprise this is the shit that is getting developed in modern America. Looking forward to this failing with VR.
>>79345157
>you do x in Y scenario
>you CAN do x in Z scenario
>therefore you MUST do x in Z scenario
This is a the only version of slippery slope argument that isn't true.
>>79337928
cars aren't made for the express purpose of killing things
this doesn't hold up, faggot
>>79344825
if liberals were in charge of producing and fueling the car, it would never come to be.
>>79337781
>be rich and handsome
>buy new tesla to show off
>put autopilot on to set up some bootie calls for later on
>get killed
thx elon
>>79337781
>DRIVES ITSELF
>Are you stupid? We didn't really mean "drives itself." If you don't drive it yourself you'll fuckin' crash!
>>79338996
Oh man. How didn't they expect this to happen? You need some hardcore work on sensors to pull that off. This sounds like it was a totally preventable consequence of sloppy work. How do you not notice a huge truck speeding in front of you? Those neural networks are pretty solid. I'm 90% sure this must be due to shitty sensors
>>79345295
he said he wouldn't trust computers with his life, and he's doing it all the time
if he wanted to say that he wouldn't specifically trust a computer to steer and accelerate/brake his car he should've said so
just a quick question
why does tesla even exist? wouldn't it be better for society and envireonment to turn niggers and mudslimes into fuel for our cars?
>>79345274
yeah so he created "Zip2" (a great success) and X.com, also a well known service.
Luckily he already had money from the Zip2 sale to be able to make the Confinity deal.
>>79345274
So in other words he did not develop PayPal only a pathological need for the Bosley Medical Group. Thank you for playing chubby... you must be winded....get back to warming the bench. Elon is busy sucking his soon to be ex's farts out of it.
>>79341389
Massive subsidies.
>inb4 muh oil company subsidies.
Oil companies don't get subsidies.
>>79345295
>slippery slope is almost entirely true except this version
>>79345525
Being that he's american its entirely possible he has never flown in a plane or taken a sea-faring ship.
Your argument is invalid manuel, and indeed, is not an argument at all.
>>79345525
plane autopilots are ALWAYS supervised, usually not by one pilot but two.
I could never imagine auto-pilote in Brazil. Too many suicidal drivers and bikers who give 0 fucks to red lights and stop signs.
>>79345274
So he didn't actually *do* anything then, he just shifted money around.
It's not like he was up at 2am coding javascript and writing SQL for paypal. He handed a bunch of software guys some money and said "make this thing".
>>79345999
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Tesla autopilot supposed to be assisted as well?
Tesla > SolarCity
Failing scam > failed scam.
I gotta get jizzed all over every time musky writes a twit by all the fan boyz.
I'm sad one of these over-priced golf carts killed someone. But, maybe now these dolts will stop thinking that e-lon is perfect.
I hope autopilot never works.
>>79345584
>>79345821
>>79346072
Literally no point arguing with you stupid cunts. The man took a 28k grant from his father and turned it into 12.3 billion dollars.
He must be a fucking retard.
>>79340874
But Fast and the Furious taught me that cars can drive under truck trailers.
Check mate, Tesla.
>>79345211
>Would it hurt them to build an overpass?
is the left part of the residential road even paved?
The road has a good oversight so the costs are not justified for the occosional residential hopper.
>>79342547
>>79341307
I don't get that, I love to drive and would only ever use this in heavy traffic
Autonomous car or not the semi driver is at fault and probably would have killed this guy even if he was paying attention.
He drove straight across a highway in a 100 foot vehicle and wasn't even aware of oncoming traffic.
No matter how you slice it this isn't a problem with the autonomous system, it's a problem with 2 shitty drivers not paying the fuck attention.
NEXT
>>79345244
that's not according to my original logic at all. the point is that human error is always present unless the roads are entirely automated. you can still reduce the risk significantly using automation but it will never be optimised without rolling it out comprehensively
>>79346345
Elon is gaining sooooo much weight on such a delicate feminine frame....oh the pain of trying to consume failure!
>>79346140
they have a disclaimer about it because their technology is unreliable. The idea with automated driving is to have your car take the role of a driver/chauffeur, you only enter the destination and it drives you there. >>79343589
What is the point of automated driving/steering if you have to pay attention all the time?
>>79341389
Appreciation for distilled petroleum and Japanese cars.
>>79346640
This
>>79345157
Zero automobiles use computers to brake. They are all hydraulic with redundancy built in, turd-gurgler.
ABS is the only computer involved, and that only temporarily fights your foot to let the wheel regain traction.
>>79341649
I'm surprised more people aren't acknowledging this. I was under the impression that the autopilot's goal was to be completely self-driving in some indeterminate future (given the significant technical challenges required). To release it at any point before that just seems detrimental and pointless.
>>79346640
Dissipated attentiveness can very easily be the difference between life and death in the event of surprising changes in your immediate environment.
The question is how vulnerable you become by adopting a system which reduces your attentiveness while drivers which demand mutual attention from others to avoid collisions remain on the road.
Until we have a fascist system of mandatory automatic driving in all cars people will suffer from the fatigue of no longer being required to pay attention 99% of the time when they encounter that other 1% of incidents compared to how a driver who knows they must be paying attention and thinking 100% of the time.
>>79346345
He's not dumb by any means but he's also not any kind of super genius. Probably just above average.
But it's highly disingenuous to say he invented or created anything. That would be like if I donated 500 billion to a cancer research lab and they found a cure, then people started praising me for curing cancer.
>>79339377
Computer didn't notice because a major engineer fuck up.
Driver did not notice because it was deliberately not looking, trusting the computer.
Any attempt to word it in a way to imply that driver tried to notice the truck but did not is a desperate last ditch shill.
>>79346946
>zero automobiles use computers to break
wat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqe6S6m73Zw
Elon Musk Mag-Lev Monorails!
Investing other people's money without fear into abject failure.
>>79347021
>The question is how vulnerable you become by adopting a system which reduces your attentiveness
as vulnerable as the attentiveness of the system makes you
protip: computers are better than people
it is more than likely that this accident was not caused by the fact that a computer was driving
>>79345157
Planes and ships aren't a few feet away from other planes and ships on a regular basis
>>79347303
actually they are
>>79346893
That looks like a Mercedes concept car though, not a tesla s
>>79347254
If it was caused by the fact that a human was driving the other car compounded by the 'driver' in the automated vehicle's response time was suffering a disengagement natural to the normative expectations of piloting the automated vehicle, then absolutely the automation system is faulty.
Or, in other words, you are enjoying the luxury of being able to disengage more freely from driving with a reduced risk of fatal injury relative to the same amount of inattentiveness in a manually driven vehicle, but NOT equal to the risk of fatal injury if you were driving a manual vehicle and paying the commensurate amount of attention to that personal responsibility.
It could mean a statistical net inferiority when you compare the normative behaviors of both.
>>79347101
if there's such a thing as a genius he's a genius. at organization in the very least, and visionary as fuck.
>>79347303
They will be if Musk gets his dainty manicured paws on them.
The computer couldn't tell the difference between the truck and the sky?
Are you telling me these things have an auto-pilot mode when they're only equipped with visual proximity sensing, not radar?
You'd have to be fucking insane to ride in an auto-driving vehicle without at least radar. Visual only isn't nearly reliable enough.
>>79347254
many accidents are stopped everyday by drivers reacting. The system did not react.
Computers are better in many things. They perform poorly in holding a conversation and in vision or common sense.
>>79347666
I think they have basic sonar but not 360
>>79347641
...so true...he saw his hair disappearing and organised heroic medical intervention to remedy this. Oh vanity!
![My-Komadori-Kawaii-Plush-Doll[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/K8JqmMR.jpg "My-Komadori-Kawaii-Plush-Doll[1].jpg")
>>79347157
japan show us where on the doll elon touched you
>>79347641
>visionary
cancer given human form
plebbit is down the hall and to the left
>>79347666
I was about to ask this. Pretty dumb if the computer only takes information from the camera. Someone could paint a mural on a wall and the car would try to drive through it.
>>79347641
>visionary
he really is!
picture related, the "powerwall" - a giant battery
>>79337781
Autopiloting cars will always be shit because of this. This was an incredibly simple solution and the computer couldn't forget it out. Your vision is much more reliable than the information a car receives. Computers might be good at minimizing risk, but there is absolutely no way in a risky situation that it will receive enough information to make the best decision possible.
>>79341518
for all you know the guy was too busy shitposting on 4chan to pay attention to the road. It's a self driving car.
>>79347860
heh heh keep being jelly of elon fat boy. you're all hilarious to me.
>>79347683
>many accidents are stopped everyday by drivers reacting. The system did not react.
are you stupid? computers have vastly superior reaction times.
> They perform poorly in holding a conversation and in vision or common sense.
vision is the only relevant question here: would the driver have seen the trailer, where the computer did not? i believe it's unlikely that even if he had, it would have been early enough to react.
>"Neither Autopilot nor the driver noticed the white side of the tractor trailer against a brightly lit sky, so the brake was not applied," Tesla said in a blog post entitled "A Tragic Loss."
Lol this guy was a VP of a CIA shell company who procures weapons for the cartels. Nothing suspicious at all.
>>79348025
That photo is two chins ago.
>>79339138
>libcuck
He's a libertarian if anything. He's given equally to both Republicans and Democrats, including donations to Bush, Obama, Rubio, and Hillary for SpaceX lobbying.
Anyone who seriously wants to nuke Mars and set up a private 8000 person colony there by 2030 can not be a marxist libcuck, anyway.
>>79348054
Honestly what is even the point of a car with autopilot if you have to pay attention at all times? How disingenuous is that?
Its like selling drugs you smoke to get high and calling them 'bath salts'.
>>79340874
"You don't need lidar to make self driving cars"
-Elon Musk creator of the decapitating car.
>>79337781
>using a self driving car
>>79348068
>are you stupid?
no you are stupid because you knee-jerk over the word "reacting"
it doesn't matter if the computer responds in 0,01 seconds if it's result is "Indeterminate". 5 seconds later it will still be "Indeterminate" and the accident is already over.
>would the driver have seen the trailer, where the computer did not? i believe it's unlikely that even if he had, it would have been early enough to react.
Easily if he paid any attention to the road. First the truck passes the street, clearly visible which makes you more aware for things like a connected trailer.
>>79342547
The Autodriving software was 'autistic' and didn't take any of this into consideration. It also wasn't able to do the latest-impact reaction either and so the car drove through.
>>79348183
His fans are fat ugly unloved gullible fools who live to be pegged by his scams.
>>79337928
BAN NIGGERS!!! ..... seriously though, ban niggers
>>79348174
has had a lot of plastic surgery done?
>>79348052
>couldn't forget it out
Yeah dude, make fun of that computer when you make dumb mistakes like that.
Fucking retard.
>>79337781
>It is important to note that Tesla disables Autopilot by default and requires explicit acknowledgement that the system is new technology and still in a public beta phase before it can be enabled. When drivers activate Autopilot, the acknowledgment box explains, among other things, that Autopilot “is an assist feature that requires you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times," and that "you need to maintain control and responsibility for your vehicle” while using it. Additionally, every time that Autopilot is engaged, the car reminds the driver to “Always keep your hands on the wheel. Be prepared to take over at any time.” The system also makes frequent checks to ensure that the driver's hands remain on the wheel and provides visual and audible alerts if hands-on is not detected. It then gradually slows down the car until hands-on is detected again.
It's the drivers fault you dumb retards.
I don't know why people are obsessed with driverless cars. Making people forget how to drive all falls in line with the globalist agenda. People won't be able to escape oppressive regimes if they can't drive.
>>79348605
>>79340886
lol wow the shilling is real
>>79346788
What the fuck did Musk do to you, you angsty gook?
He didn't drop the bombs.
>>79348453
Yeah. He's also had some top tier hair transplants done.
>>79348851
I don't care if you ever buy a tesla but if you don't react when a truck is going to crush you then you are fucking stupid.
Is there anything wrong with my logic?
>>79338208
Because it beats the challenger hellcat in a drag race. And it charges much faster compared to other electric cars
>>79348605
>a company feels that a responsible action is to put software that has not been fully vetted behind the wheel of a car in public and thinks it can just wipe its hands of anything that happens because users hit an ok button
Elon's in a for a rude awakening if more people start dying
How fucking retarded do you have to be to trust car autopilot? This will never work. Maybe and i emphasise maybe you could implement throttle control using sensitive laser distance sensors but actually trusting control systems to steer your car...LOL
>>79349011
Ah well I can't blame him. If I had that much money I'd certainly make myself more handsome.
>>79349236
>Because it beats the challenger hellcat in a drag race
It beats it off the line. It loses down the stretch.
>>79340749
Maybe not but it will.
>>79349308
On a quarter mile it still wins. At least that's what I've seen.
Who /Public Transport/ here?
>>79349305
Yeah he's got cash to burn and has to be the public face of his company so it's really a good investment not to look like a flabby, puffy, bald guy.
>>79349273
>if more people start dying
You are fucking dumb.
It explicitly says that you must be ready to take control at any time, the god damn company says you shouldn't trust your life to it so why would you?
Not only that but at any time he could have saved himself by taking over when the truck came over.
How cucked is /pol/ right now?
This is just the cost of progress, just like space colonization will be littered with human bodies
>>79349569
the gif looks like jfk 2bh
>>79348813
you know this is going to happen. Does anyone really need to manually drive their car around? They're putting their lives, and everyone else's lives at risk. Show some pictures of flattened kids on the media, while demonizing the people who prefer not to use their computer systems and all that's left is passing the legislation.
>>79337928
Ban full auto cars. :^)
>>79349692
Expecting people to constantly second guess the auto driving system is just dangerous and it really shouldn't be activated in consumer cars regardless of disclaimers if it's that prone to failure.
>>79345157
Argentina is white after all.
![69414c82889555e4dcb24357ab71a289[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/yTK4lNz.png "69414c82889555e4dcb24357ab71a289[1].png")
>>79348080
Ford-UAW guy here, my cousin is an engineer for Ford and his friend works for Nissan as one. Self driving cars for day to day use like this out in the open world is still a fucking pipe dream. Companys are more focused on self driving for their own interests, they want driverless trucks to deliver shit from a satellite station to the main plant and such, not to have everyone not paying attention while on autopilot. I know google and ford are teamed up doing shit, but its pretty much just projects and testing the limits atm. Anyone who thinks this stuff is going to take off widely in less than 50yrs is kidding themselves. And even then, it still wont be as widely used as just normally driving. This is proof and that Jeep that got hacked while the dude was driving the damn thing is also proof.
>>79349885
>Expecting people to constantly second guess the auto driving system is just dangerous
It's just normal driving vigilance. If the auto-pilot isn't already doing what you would do then you should do it.
>it really shouldn't be activated in consumer cars regardless of disclaimers if it's that prone to failure.
It's not activated, it's deactivated and you have to activate it. Just don't activate it. Stupid people ruining it for everyone else is stupid.
What happened to space elevator threads around here?
>>79349822
No you wanna kill more fuck off
>>79348605
>provides alerts
>still crashes
We can do this! I wanna fap on the freeway
Perhaps Tesla can finally turn a phantom profit by selling electric transport vans to the even more insolvent SolarCity who they'll "own". Elon Musk CPA.
There isn't anything wrong with vehicle autopilot. Even the best human drivers can get into an accident because accidents are not entirely your fault. They can be caused by negligent other drivers. Stop lights and everything are already controlled by machine so why shouldn't cars? If everyone was using tesla autopilot accidents would probably be very rare.
>>79350351
good goy
>>79341791
>What does that tell you?
that he trusted a jew and got burned for it
>>79350524
at this point in time, tesla autodrive has a hard time to even stay on the track if it's not a highway. you're thinking of the google car
>>79338347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp6UoSjpkAc
>>79337781
So was he decapitated or what?
>>79350596
>1 post by this ID
>>79347650
thought you were a proxy but there's those nipponese bantz i was hoping for
>>79350668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i94adSbo7EU
>>79342524
>a supervised driving car that has an active driver also watching everything all of the time is safer than just a guy driving a car
and I can assure you that a completely self driving car in this current state is far less safe than a driver
>>79350351
>It's just normal driving vigilance.
It's not though. Normal driving vigilance is observing and reacting to everything around you. What this requires is observing everything and deciding if the computer that you have only a vague idea of how it handles situations is making a mistake or not. This creates a situation where instead of going from observe to react you instead go from observe to decide if the computer is malfunctioning to react. In the later case you've massively reduced the time you have to react to a situation by having to wait and see if the computer is actually working as intended and will likely end up having to react in a much short time frame than if you hadn't had to consider the actions of the machine. I'm sure you'll say "well if you aren't ready to stop right away then you're doing it wrong" and I'll preempt this by saying expecting people to instantaneously deduce there is a malfunction just from how the car is responding is a ridiculous requirement and not as all fit to be in a consumer product.
>>79345157
>planes and ships have autopilots and you seem to trust them
and have two pilots constantly at the cockpit at any given time.
>>79341518
>tesla's not to blame because they said so in their press release
that's
that's not how it works, legally or ethically
>>79342524
That's not measurable. But it's safe to assume it's not
>>79337781
brb buying more Tesla stock.
>>79348001
So, basically a Wile E Coyote painted tunnel could crash a Tesla? I'd watch that..
As opposed to the millions who were killed by faggots driving themselves? That's the funny thing, automated cars don't have to be perfect to be better than people.
>>79339699
So it's not really "self driving?"
>>79340595
Only safe to drive these things at night, then?
>>79351181
I understand what you are saying but it's stupid as fuck.
>What this requires is observing everything and deciding if the computer that you have only a vague idea of how it handles situations is making a mistake or not.
Don't do that.
Observe and react, if the computer is not doing what you are doing you will take over.
>>79341084
>You're not supposed to take your concentration off the road with autopilot on.
What, then, is the purpose?
>get a truck
>paste a photo of the sky all over the truck
>park your truck at the middle of the intersection
>watch teslatards get beheaded
