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Redpill me on MH17
Fag with feelings can fuck off (except for the Dutch people).
>>79182596
>Fags*
fug
Your pic sums it up, spurdo
>>79182744
Did I ask where the missile hit, bro?
>>79182596
>shit skin airlines stupid enough to fly over a warzone
>commies want to take down a military jet
>mistake MH17 for that
Uh a Russian BUK blew it outta the sky.
>>79182596
Fuck knows. I mean even our government gave up on finding out what happened.
>>79182596
Ukrainians were stupid enough to target a civilian plane thinking it was Russian.
Airlines were stupid enough to risk losing it's machine & image and fly over warzone.
Is it possible to take a hit from buk and survive? That is a big plane, what if the sharpnel didn't hit the cockpit? Or is it programmed to hit the front? Can it miss?
>>79183506
Not the slightest chance, it was designed to take down planes and I can't think of anything not falling down after being hit.
>>79183469
You think Ukrainians can't identify passenger planes flying on their own air space? You're going full putin.
>>79183414
>gave up
They did ten times more effort on covering the shit up than uncovering what happened.
>>79182596
Ukraine had 12 old soviet SAM complexes in the area, shoot (from other side, than official model - basically missile trajectory is reversed, so the end of trajectory, that was in random village will not be on ukraine-controlled territory). Then ukraine as the major investigation member veto`d all the evidence of their crime (their plain in the area, radar data, data on these old soviet rockets, etc.
Now it goes like this:
> could not portray Russia as the perpetrator, because Russian missiles now have different shrapnel and they did not find a single piece in the wreckage
> now they`re trying to fund shills in russian politicum to take the guilt without evidence, like it was with katyn
> not a single time is mentioned in the media anything killing ethnic Russian civilians, who are murdered by ukraine military, because Russian referendum was going not according to the EU-will
>>79183690
Yup, thats what we get for ellecting a spineless coward with a history degree
>>79183654
Yes, I think they didn't have any experience and probably this crew fired it for the first time.
Also it might've been some of the neonazis and you should know they're retarded enough to press the button on the first thing that shows on the radar
>implying Putin's plane didn't flew roughly in the same region some 15 minutes after
>implying he wasn't the true target
>dumbfuck soros paid ukies shot down civilian aircraft
>blame the ruskies
>Ukraine is massive economic shithole as of now
>MUH RUSSIAN OPPRESSION
>>79183654
ad hominem?
retard rebels did it
there's a tape as well
>>79183962
>>79183654
pic related, it's really hard to distinguish them, even if you had binoculars
>>79183273
Don't forget Ukrainian air traffic control asked them to fly at a lower altitude.
Drunk slav war veterans can't differentiate between a passenger plane and a military cargo plane
>>79183654
> You think Ukrainians can't identify passenger planes flying on their own air space?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812
Also, what makes you think they have not done it on purpose, knowing, that all the EUSSR media scum will shill for them, including NATO ministry of truth in Riga@Latvia?
>>79182596
Russian murderd Europeans while invading Ukraine stealing its land and play dumb. Its all.
>tfw on my way back home from vacation
>supposed to fly over Ukraine
>flight crew informs us the flight will take longer because they're rerouting cause of certain reasons (plane being shot down not mentioned)
>look up news at home
>find out my flight was supposed to fly over Ukraine 3 hours after MH17
Kek saved me desu
>>79183814
Why would Ukraine shot down a civil air plane in the first place ? What did they gain from this ?
>>79182596
I HOPE THE PIG USA BLOW COMMIE BASTARD TO SHIT FUCK YOU PUTIN YOU COMPENSATING MANLET PIECE OF SHIT
note how everyone remembers MH17 but no one cares about Metrojet Flight 9268
>>79183814
>without evidence, like it was with katyn
Vlad, I...
>>79184450
>saved me
From what?
>>79184529
>implying Najib didn't know about this prior
Dirty dumb Melayu scum
>>79184519
Ukrainers are african-tier nation and EU gave them mandate to kill Russians. What could possibly go wrong?
I can imagine they tried to portray putin as ghaddafi. Europeans hated ghaddafi due to british plane bomb explosion, despite the fact, that it was not backed up by any evidence, just some shady mi-6 report. Then he admitted the explosion for some political reasons like "stop sanctions" (which is not an evidence) and his words where widely used against him, when france bombed lybia in "no flight zone" to free the way for shitskin flood and another civil war in africa.
Give a glass penis to ukrainer - he will break it and cut his hands.
>>79182596
>le redpill meme
So I can basically give you any kind of outlandish theory and you will accept it as fact just because it is alternative?
>>79185572
kadafi was killed because he left petro-dollar...
>>79185859
How about telling me what happened?
>>79184963
> they where shot in the back of their head, like NKVD does it
Low energy evidence.
I`m not saying it did not happen. But the evidence is non-existant. Unlike the evidences of polack generals in USSR gassing the whole towns, while roosevelt is making historical deals with soviets about "stalins indrustrialisation".
No sanctions here. Gassing the civilian towns, if they do not like bolshevism is ok. Bombing Russian towns, if they do not like ukrainer nationalistic Socialists junta - is nothing out of order. Absolutely fine for EU politics.
>>79186124
You motherfucker say one lie more about Katyń and I'll find you, kill you, and shit on your carcass.
My grandfather was murdered by your fucking communist ancestors and the sole purpose of this action was to kill Polish inteligence and aristocracy.
False flag.
>>79184181
I hate the modern media... Why is nothing like this raported.
I have to come to fucking /pol/ to get my news.
>>79182596
remember that other plane that looks exactly like this one going missing ?
>>79186563
Dutch bro, tell us your theories.
>>79186563
>Everyone is trying to kill Putin and they fail everytime.
Can't make this shit up.
Ukies still haven't released air traffic control tapes. That should tell you all you need to know.
>>79186124
>Polack generals gassing entire towns?
What? Ivan explain.
Unless you claim that Tukhachevsky was on eof this Polock generals.
false flag to push for a war against the ivans
>>79186701
just an obvious geopolitical power play to get sympathy for EU control over the Ukraine and provoke Putin
Posting in a thread loaded with russians behind proxies.
>>79183962
>>79184181
>implying Putin's plane didn't flew roughly in the same region
Not true at all. Putins plane was nowhere near Luhansk. He flew from Warsaw to Moscow. Look at a map.
>>79186018
The plane got caught in the crossfire of the recent space battle (Greys vs Atlanteans and possibly Reptilians) that took place in the upper atmosphere.
>>79186563
The one that disapear over Pacific?
>>79186981
Yes, did they ever find that one ?
>>79183506
Maybe something like the a-10 but definitely not a direct hit
>>79184257
I actually work there.
Its just a bunch of officers watching Kisilev and writing reports about how pathetic your state media is.
>>79185572
>1
>>79186857
Fags with feelings:
OUT
>>79183273
this
Russian shills in this thread showing their true colors.
These are the facts:
>Novorussia is communist
>Novorussia is only recognized by communist countries
>Novorussia is filled with white trash
>Novorussia loves Russia/USSR
>USSR fucked the entire West with their subversion
Don't get your news from RT.
>>79185572
>>79187063
No. I dont think so.
>>79185572
>Russia robs, murders and kills in Eastern Europe for 50 years
>Blames those countries for being poor and backwards.
I don't know about Ukraine, but Baltics were in the top 10 richest countries in Europe before Russian hordes invaded.
>>79187278
i see nothing bad in your points
>>79182596
Read the report. In two words: possible zone of launch overlaps both rebel and government controlled territory. Both sides had buks in the area.
>>79182596
Just because those people lived in the same country as me I'm supposed to give a crap?
People die all the time, everywhere. Too much to give a single shit.
Fuck all planes.
>>79187278
I remember RT pushing all kinds of conspiracy theories. They conveniently removed "surface-to-air missile" which was in the original statement in pic related, to fit the narrative of an Ukrainian fighter jet shooting down the plane.
Disgusting desu.
>>79182596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKgyH9k1CSM
Ukranians shot down a plane and everybody blames russia because people hate russia for being based.
Also some guy I knew was killed.
>>79185572
567 rekt
>>79182596
Are you aware that it is currently the current year?
Social media forensics has allowed people to track the movement of the BUK that shot it down all the way from Russia into eastern Ukraine and back using only open source pictures random people posted online.
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2014/11/08/origin-of-the-separatists-buk-a-bellingcat-investigation/
If you're an autistic neet who is good at this kind of shit you can join their team yourself.
>>79184519
They downed the plane so they can blame the bad guy.
>posts Bellingcat and "social media" forsencis
Yeah, don't do that.
Honestly, people. There are no good and bad sides in that war. Trust me. If you have read less than 5 historical books on Rus' and Russian history, you have a very wrong idea
>Ukrainians call them "Moscals" and not "Russians" for a reason
>Hating on either Russians or Ukrainians while loving the other is retarded.
>>79188184
Blame yourself faggots.
Backstab white generals.
Fight for commies.
Then backstab commies.
No wonder commies see your nation as a potentia backstabbers and deport your population into the safe zone. So you will not backstab them again but you did.
They should deport you all.
>pro russians get their hands on a BUK
>the only one of them who knows how to operate it is some Ivan who did it 30 years ago during soviet conscription
>he talked a lot of ballsy shit so he could join the pro russians but without pretending to be important they wouldn't let him
>unfortunately Ivan Ivanowitsch had too much vodka in the system and he couldn't remember what all the buttons even do or how the BUK even works
>Pjotr then spots a tiny white plane on the Horizon and starts making panic
>Ivan Ivanowitsch then launches a Missile hitting and downing MH17
>they crack open another vodka bottle and down it while dancing on the BUK, MH17 is burning in the Distance
>they give the message through that they downed something Ukrop
>few minutes later turns out it was a Passenger Jet with 200+ people on board, international flight
>Ivan and Pjotr about to kill the Pro Russian Movement with this dickmove
>Russian FSB shows up, takes the BUK Launcher and the crew with them
>Ivan and Pjotr enter the Russian Witness Protection Programm which is a Ditch near Donetzk airport
>Russian internet shills spam the internet trying to throw in as much faked evidence as possible
>Russians keep pressuring Ukraine so they hinder the investigation
>>79188703
LOOK AT ME
LOOK AT ME
I AM SWITZERLAND NOW
>>79188159
well it might have crashed in the Ukraine then
>>79188722
Except they mixed up Buk and Tor M1 vehicles in some cases, oops.
Also the hohols are using the same Buk complex. Even if the rebels got some from Russia there is no way you could tell which one was actually used with the information available.
>>79189190
>Ivan and Pjotr enter the Russian Witness Protection Programm which is a Ditch near Donetzk airport
>>79189244
So rare.
>>79186431
tfw /pol/ is the only reliable news source you get nowadays
It wouldn't surprise me if Ukraine was behind the MH17 attack, but for the love of the EU, Russia gets blamed, because Putin is always the big mean bad guy.
Fuck this country though, our MP promised to find out who is behind it, but they are only covering all the shit up.
Hope Mark Rutte dies in a crash or something.
>>79183357
ukrainian BUK, you faggot.
>>79190765
>It wouldn't surprise me if Ukraine was behind the MH17 attack
Could have happened, sure .. the ukranians brought down a passenger plane due to incompetence before before but in this case shooting at it made no sense for them.
Drunk rebels not properly trained to operate a BUK just makes more sense.
Also the Russian narrative is less believable because they keep chainging it around while claiming to have proof at all times. You just can`t explain why they would claim to have 100% proof it was a ukie jet and then just forget about that and claim it was a BUK but a different model supposedly only used by ukrainian forces without agreeing the russians had to lie at some point.
>>79190765
Who could do it?
>Putin
>some Ruskies faction
>NovoRuskies
>Ukraine
>some other
??
>planned
>accident
Who gain?
>no Novoruskies or Ruskies
>maybe some Ruskie faction so they get leveregae against Putin
>maybe even Putin so he can abandon NovoRuskiesr(rather not)
>Ukraine, yes
>anyone who want to shit on Ruskie
>anyone who want throw shit between EU and Ruskies
>the guy with the cash(Soros) who got Line assets cheap now
>>79186701
What >>79186855 said
9/11 an event that escalates an ongoing conflict. Ukraine probably CIA'd the plane out of the air blaming the separatists.
The entire narrative went something along the lines of "O WHAT THE FUCK RUSSIA... LOOK WHAT YOU DID... YOU GAVE THESE PEOPLE BUKS AND THEY ACCIDENTALLY SHOT A FUCKING PASSENGER AIRPLANE OUT OF THE SKY".
Which is obviously fucking retarded. Russia did indeed send operational BUKs into the Ukraine. Because the fucking Ukraine army where practically carpet bombing their own people...REMEMBERRRR???!!!! So you can bet your ass these BUKs where armed and operated by trained Russian soldiers. I can assure you one thing, and that's that when you go through training to operate a long ranged anti aircraft missile launcher, they teach you the difference between a commercial airliner and a military aircraft.
Obviously powers at play didn't like Russia powerballing actual Russian military into the "civil war" so they fucked MH17 for the greater good or wtf who cares about these people lets call it collateral damage as long as we get our way.
>>79182596
I seriously wont enter a plane or airport anymore because of incidents like this in recent years.
>Muh statistically safest way to travel
Yeah, with all the Islamic terrorism and global conflicts going on.
>>79192857
>Yeah, with all the Islamic terrorism and global conflicts going on.
Even then, deaths by terrorist outside of obviously dangerous shithole countries are laughably small compared to most other ways you could die, especialy car accidents
But the human mind does not work that way, our sense of danger cannot into statistics
https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine/status/489802664264212480/photo/1
“17.07.2014 17:50 (Moscow Time) Report from the militia.
‘In the area of Torez, we have just shot down an AN-26 airplane, it is scattered about somewhere by the Progress coal mine.
We warned them – don’t fly ‘in our sky.’
Here is a video confirmation of the latest ‘bird drop.’
The bird fell beyond the slag heap, it did not damage the residential sector.
Civilians were not hurt.
There is also information about a second downed airplane, apparently an SU.'”
>>79193499
>AN-26 airplane
>>79183814
Why Russians can't stop eating dicks.
>>79183273
Fair and informative answer that should've ended the thread.
>>79183273
FPBP
Fourth
>>79183814
>Then ukraine as the major investigation member
you do know it was the separatists who were the ones who had control over the plane wreckage?
>>79184181
>implying it's hard to differ a plane with 4 engines from a plane with 2
Either way, the myth that the Ukros wanted to down Putin's plane has been debunked numerous times
>>79183814
> without evidence, like it was with katyn
kek
>>79187278
I have noticed a massive decline in Slavaboos on /pol/
Once I came here after lurking on /k/ for many months, it feels like /pol/ has become as anti-vatnik and pro-american as /k/
>>79189190
kek
not enough references to Krokodil though
>>79183814
>>79196139
Putin is pretty much hated by slav nationalist in Russia too. Putin bans holohoax and islam critics because he cares more about his position than slavs that have to live with churkas. He is just like any european leader in his mindset but has way more power in society as whole
>>79183506
No chance of surviving from a BUK hit especially on a plane made of 1/32" aluminum skin
>>79183273
/thread
>>79195431
And the Russians had full control of the area around the Kursk, didn't stop the USA from becoming the main rescuer and demanding being able to examine the recovered pieces of it.
>>79192620
Thanks bro
