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Reconciling the OT and NT = Impossible
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How can Christians be so ignorant as to actually believe that their Christian religion is in any way a fulfillment of Judaism?

The New Testament's theology is completely different from the Old Testament's. By reading the NT, one sees the introduction of certain themes that simply aren't found in Judaism, but that are very obviously influenced from Greek mystery rites.

The entire concept of a suffering deity, of a deity whose suffering and death 'redeems' the world; the idea of followers mystically sharing in this deity's suffering, the strong emphasis on forgiveness of sins and salvation through belief, and of reaching a pleasant/'good' afterlife by performing proper rites and/or subscribing to a certain deity - these are all undeniably elements borrowed from Greek mystery religions and neo-Platonism! The Orphic rites, the Eleusinian rites, the Attic rites, the cults of Serapis and Dyonisus and Isis. These thematic elements are completely alien to Jewish theology, hence why the Jews themselves rejected (and still do) Christianity; there is no 'continuity' between the New or Old, save whatever convoluted excuses Christians use to attempt to reconcile the two.

Does Yahweh the war god ever give the impression of being a 'suffering deity'? Isn't it odd that the New Testament places undue emphasis on an afterlife, yet the Old Testament made no mention of it, such that the concept of an afterlife did not even develop until well into the Second Temple period? Isn't it strange that Jesus bore none of the attributes or signs that Yahweh himself promised the Jews the Messiah would have?

In essence, to put it in simplest terms - the New Testament is a Greek fanfiction to the Old Testament: it is not 'canon', and attempts to reconcile the two are just too problematic and self-defeating. Knowing this, why do /pol/tards insist on propagating the Christcuck delusion when - like every other religion - it is simply a man-made invention lacking any supernatural/divine agency.
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Christianity is just Judaism + European "paganism". They can tip there silly hats all day long, I'm not sure why they wear them. But at the end of the day Christianity is unoriginal cancer
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>>79175348
If you don't think the OT has any agency either then it really doesn't matter now does it?
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>>79175535
>Judaism
>European "paganism"

Except you're wrong. Christianity is actually a mix of Greek religion (of the mystery cult type) and neo-Platonic thought, with only the most superficial aspects of Judaism thrown in. It is hardly Judaic in character, and for claiming to be the continuation of Judaism, displays an overall abysmal knowledge of Jewish theology.
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>>79175348
>How can Christians be so ignorant as to actually believe that their Christian religion is in any way a fulfillment of Judaism?
>can't into philology
Because the New Testament was actually composed after the fall of Jerusalem, but misdated as though the events it described took place before that happened, so that the words of """""""Jesus"""""" predicting Israel's destruction appear prophetic.
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>>79175348
They're not supposed to be reconciled unless your some retarded mongoloid. Literally Jesus is god born in mans flesh. After experiencing for himself how hard life is being a 'man', he literally throws out the old testament because it doesn't apply to Christians at all and gives new rules to follow. The Jews have been forsaken, they worship satan not god.
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>>79175348
>How can Christians be so ignorant as to actually believe that their Christian religion is in any way a fulfillment of Judaism?


Christianity isn't a fulfillment of Judaism, because Judaism was created in Vth century AD after the completion of the Talmud, while descended on earth 1st century AD.

Judaism is merely a sect created against christianity.
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>>79177379
while Christ descended*
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>>79176829
What you described is called Marcionism, and is considered a heresy by both the Catholic and Orthodox establishments as well as by all the major Protestant denominations.

Take a hike, moron.
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Jesus nullified the old testament at the last supper. In fact if you read the Gnostic Gospels, especially the gospel of Thomas, you'll see that there's absolutely no reason to read the old testament to glean any theology whatsoever and in fact that the theology of the old testament is in contradiction with the new. I think Joseph Campbell points out that the early Christians could've substituted Plotinus for the old testament with specifically what Jesus said about theology, which is Neoplatonic. Interestingly most Abrahamic theology is at least in part Neoplatonic, especially Islamic theology (Kalam).
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>>79178792
That's Marcionism.
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Dat pic. MuhDik
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>>79178792
>if you read the Gnostic Gospels
>if you read heretical gospels
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>>79179080
>That's Marcionism.
Marcion had a bit of a different doctrine about the two separate Gods, this guy is just plain wrong.
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>>79175348

This was a big struggle early on in the Church.

Ultimately, Christ of the Scripture (as opposed the historical Christ) was designed in such a way as to fulfill the jewish prophecies while also maintaining his new message.

But yes, the message of Jesus is totally conflicting with the message of the OT and that is probably why the majority of converts where gentiles and not jews. The jewish messiah was supposed to me a militant super jew who takes revenge on the enemies of Israel. Ariel Sharon is more likely to have been the messiah than Jesus of Nazareth.

The jews likely crucified the historical jesus because he wanted to end the corruption among the priest class, specifically in the temple mount.

Many Christians in this part of the world still secretly reject the OT since both catholic and orthodox churches have agreed that the OT is legit.
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