Civilians should not carry this.
Discuss.
Completely agree. I'm against guns but at this point it's unreasonable to take away every gun in the USA. They should just register all gun owners, make it possible you can't buy one if you're a criminal and only allow small handguns and pistols. No one needs a machine gun.
>>79165323
maybe if they did your shit hole country might not be so shitty
>>79165323
Agreed. Carrying a non-Steyr rifle is a massive style violation.
Disagree.
Giving masculinity to 160 million people is more important than whether or not 3 extra people die in the bi-annual mass shootings.
>>79165323
I agree completely. It's absurd to let Americans carry that.
I think they should add a strap to help and free up their hands.
>>79165323
OPs who make a post with one liner's followed by "discuss" should be banned
Discuss
>>79165323
It's the fucked up culture that's the problem, not guns
>>79165323
I agree...
>>79166343
>culture
We call them blacks.
>>79165783
sorry but the right to bear arms doesn't really care what you're for or against
>>79165323
They should carry this. Gun control doesn't prevent deaths. It's a mix of different factors.
>>79165323
Brazilians should not carry this.
Discuss.
>>79165783
>need
it was never about this
>>79166573
KEK XDDDDDDDDDDDDD EPIC
Somehow, it's become perfectly acceptable for idiots to completely ignore the "well regulated" part of the 2nd, and that just shows us all how fucking stupid Americans have become these days.
Heh, kid
Discuss THIS
*does increasingly higher backflips*
>>79165323
dude it's a semi auto rifle not a select fire. if you can't own that then you shouldn't be allowed to own any other semi auto rifles or even pistols for that matter.
>>79165323
Cops shouldn't carry this considering they keep shooting everyone that talks to them.
>>79166691
just leave
>>79166202
You Euros and your fucking bullpup guns
>>79166825
If you read historical context, "well regulated" means in proper working order. Can also mean well equipped.
>>79168962
You have to remember: everything is smaller in Europe.
>>79165323
but it has a carry handle. that is what it is for.
>>79169211
Correct
>>79165323
SHALL
>>79166825
The supreme court decided we the american people are the militia.
"well regulated militia" is the key phrase, not a well regulated ownership of firearms, but that if you were to form a militia you are free to practice and run drills.
You can start your own army tomorrow, and train every day, completely legally, as long as you're not a group against america.
>>79169977
NOT
>>79165323
Agreed, a shorter upper is probably better. I'd also swap the carry handle for a red dot sight. Aimpoints are good.
>>79165783
What happens to my proprety when I die? Can I pass it on to my heirs?
>>79165783
It's not a machine gun, tard. It's semi automatic. It's basically the same thing as this.
>>79171945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yATeti5GmI8
>>79168962
>You Euros and your fucking bullpup guns
There's nothing wrong with a small rifle. No police officer needs to slap random mods on his service weapon.
On a more congenial note though, mass-printed ARs when?
Disagree. "Civilians" are the state in a democracy with civil servants, by definition. Therefore they should have all the power
>>79165323
How did that work for you, Brazil?
https://iapcar.org/brazil-disarmament-failed/
Some cuck up here asked me why, "you Americans need those guns." Flat out told them because we'll have to defend ourselves when the race war comes.
>>79165323
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
now go back to robbing and raping olympians
>>79165323
I agree. That's a complete piece of shit gun. Civilians should only buy quality.
>>79165323
It should be illegal to own guns without any wood on them.
>>79165323
You can print an AR-15 off a 3D printer that can last through a firefight, and that was 3 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF9kmPQCH98
How the fuck can you ban rifles when everyone has a manufacturing plant in their home office?
>>79172751
That still looks scary, lad
>>79172643
gaudy shit
>>79172821
It's really poo quality wood but better stuff is on the way. I also don't normally put on the bayonet and my taped mag at the same time
>>79173001
weren't AKs outlawed in the US?
>>79166288
>US mass shootings
>bi-annual
Sure m8, more like bi-monthly
>>79173073
Nope...?
>>79173183
I thought they had been banned along with other Russian stuff because of the Ukrainian affair. Also is it automatic?
>>79165323
Agreed, a rifle like that is totally impractical for everyday carry.
Right to bear arms was given to prevent a government from having the power over its people and becoming tyrannical. Due to this, weaponry must be on the same level. #legalizeautomaticweapons
>>79173293
Semi. I think certain Russian brands might be banned... But AK's are made all over. That one is a Romanian WASR
>>79165323
Why not? It's just a rifle. If you want to ban the shit used in most gun crime ban cheap pistols and shotguns.
>>79165323
Why did you post a picture of the least criminally used firearm type in the USA and then suggest it shouldn't be carried?
300 people are killed by rifles in the US (including AR) a year.
300 people are struck by lightning in the US a year.
800 are killed with baseball bats.
>>79165323
why not
>>79173375
oh, that explains it.
>>79169591
>its not a briefcase private
>>79165323
Yes they should, now go back to favela
>>79165323
They actually should, you can do a lot more damage with a Zastava M70. 5.56 is a tiny round that slows down significantly when going through doors, walls and torsos compared to 7.62
Too late.
>>79165323
most people shouldn't have guns... but they SHOULD should have guns.
that being said, we the 2nd amendment is the 2nd amendment. the state can NOT take guns away from people. a bad person could take the guns from the people that NEED guns, if that was the case.
we pay the price for that.
it is my opinion that you should join the NRA before getting a gun unless your life is actually in danger. in which case you can join the NRA after getting a gun.
the point of having guns is to create a safe space for freedom. there have been quite a few demonstrations by (((NEO NAZI WHITE SUPREMECISTS))) where violence by leftist storm troopers was completely prevent and possibly lives being saved just because one man had a gun.
i don't think a lot of non americans understand the price we're willing to pay for freedom.
>>79165323
Too late.
>>79172315
There is a problem when you have to completely relearn how to reload for a negligible decrease in barrel length and the added bonus of getting hot brass in your face if you have to shoot left handed for one of countless reasons.
>>79166651
>>79165323
too late, faggot. i own 2 """"""""""(((assault weapons)))"""""""""" already, along with my pistols and shotgun and 3 deer rifles
cry more
>>79171441
BE
>>79165783
Fuck off! You know what no one needs? To have an excuse for their constitutional rights
>>79174574
whats the G3? Is it an original import from the 60's ? Or some century arms stuff? telle me
>>79165323
>>79171945
>a weapon with a high-capacity magazine designed to kill people is the same as a bolt action rifle
wew lad
>>79165323
Brazilians are not white.
Discuss.
>>79174775
bri teresi and katie teresi make ymir go boom
>>79166202
OGG
Anything more than 10 rounds and/or semi-auto should be regulated VERY heavily. They need to actually give a shit about people's mental health too. You should be required to take a safety course to buy guns at all in the first place.
>>79174903
How do you kill people with the magazine? By throwing? Considering that most magazines are of light aluminum or polymer these days I doubt this woud be even lethal. Maybe you should try dropping a 100 round beta mag from your balcony on unsuspecting peoples heads? It could work.
>>79165323
Why?
>>79174903
That's a 10/22, not a bolt action rifle. You can fire it as as fast as you can pull the trigger.
>>79175172
Now that you have outed yourself as full retard, how do you feel?
>>79166651
>BEING NECESSARY
guns are needed to kill or at least serve as a deterrent to tyrannical assholes
>>79174903
>bolt action
Elizabeth Warren, is that you?
>>79175365
Good argument
>>79165783
handguns murder more people than any other type of gun, Daan-kun
>>79174903
>doesn't know what a bolt action rifle is
>uses the term anyway
I'm not even surprised at this point. The majority of people arguing against guns don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
>>79165323
I agree, give everyone an MP-7 instead. So you can shoot through the guy you're shooting at, the guy behind him, the wall behind that guy and the two guys behind the wall.
>>79165323
They should carry this
>>79174903
breivik killed 70 people with pretty much that exact same gun.
>>79174840
Ptr 91-GI, basically a US made HK 91 with surplus furniture.
All arms must be hello kitty designs. AK-47's can opt for teletubbies instead.
>>79176306
Conflating 10/22 with mini 14. Both ruger, not the same gun.
Military style attack rifles only have one use and it is to attack.
>>79175180
>>79175235
>>79175653
>>79175820
>>79176306
Not even anti gun, but it works every time :^)
>>79165323
Said the country with higher murder then the rest of the world.
>>79176344
Nice are you happy with it?
The one I posted is German made Schwaben Arms (SAR), they make a lot of cool stuff like UZIs or Swiss StG 57 repros.
>>79175065
I see you know the two sisters, they are degenerate
>>79166288
Most of them are failed shootings, less than 20 people die every year in mass shootings if you take away black on black violence, which is around 10.000 death a year.
>>79165783
Guns are often used to self-defense, but yes, you don't need an assault rifle to defend yourself from thieves, you need them, like it says in the 2nd amendment, to defend yourself against riots(Ferguson), invasions(happens in Syria atm), government tyranny(happens in many countries atm), etc.
Ah, also, gun laws won't take away guns from criminals, only from law abiding citizens.
>>79165323
Yes, they should
>>79176402
no significant difference. .22 and 5.56 wouldn't make any difference shooting soft college kids at close range.
they both shoot just as fast.
are just as accurate.
have the same choices in mags.
in the situation of 'we must kill as many rich pussy kids as possible', there is no practical difference between a mini 14 and a 10/22.
well, honestly, since you can carry a lot more ammo for the 10/22, it might be more dangerous. those faggy kids are gonna die after being hit with a .22 just the same as a .223cal / 5.56mm. the extra bullet weight and speed wouldn't add much to the effectiveness. these were not strong, motivated men he was shooting.
>>79175172
Anything more than a Semi-Auto IS Illegal, dumbass
>>79165323
How about this?
>>79176906
Well for soft targets around 50 yards yes, but a 223 still has a lot more killing power and less chance of surviving the hits. And it penetrates cover like a boat shelter ot the communist manifesto.
>>79177192
true. true.
not criticizing breiviks choice of weapons. just saying. pretty much the only fire-arm that's "less scary" than the 10/22 is the AR7, and you can kill scores of people with them.
and we haven't even begun discussing how air-weapons and laser weapons are totally unregulated.
a lot of people might not think that you can throw arcs of plasma that kill on contact instantly 40 yards. but you can.
the people that want to take guns away are the people that feel they deserve to be shot.
>>79166339
Its bait.
Meant to slide important threads off page one.
I'm sure atf also loves getting people to post their toys along with their IP.
Sage goes in all fields.
>>79165323
I agree, nobody in Brazil should be trusted with an AR-15. Especially the military.
>>79177676
exactly, I own a 10/22 and equipped with the GSG drum mag or the original ruger BX 25 mags you could do basically the same stuff like the one of these shooters.
But having a 22 when fire is returned at you really sucks I guess.
>>79176481
Says the IRA. Don't you have a public office to blow up in manchester?
>>79165323
>Civilians should not carry this.
The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>>79165323
>Civilians should not carry this.
>Discuss
Nothing to discuss, you have your opinion and I have the 2nd amendment. Fuck off
>>79165323
>20 round magazine
>not ambidextrous fire selector
>direct impingement
I agree, no one should carry that.
>>79174415
>most people shouldn't have guns... but they SHOULD should have guns.
what did he mean by this?
>>79175899
Why does cetme look so toy-like?
>>79165323
Agreed. This shit is near impossible to conceal carry. Bullpup or bust.
>>79176542
>i was only pretending to be retarded
wow, this really just happened
>>79165323
That's right, they should carry Stgw 90s instead.
>>79165783
>machine gun
baka
>>79176677
I'm very happy with it.
>muh capacity
>>79180943
conceal carry
>>79176906
>no significant difference
>they both shoot just as fast.
.22LR standard velocity 1200 ft/sec typical weight 40gr delivered at 104 ft-lb
.223 remington FMJ 3240 ft/sec 55gr
1282 ft-lb
kys nogunz
>>79165323
Weapons of war have no place on the streets of a developed nation.
>>79174592
>tfw left eye dominant to a point shooting right handed feels completely foreign
JUST
>>79181274
I am always amazed when I remember that the G3 needs no gasport due to its roller lock system.
>>79180657
>20 Choice magazine
Fixed it for you.
>shuthead from warzone talking about what civilians should do or not
kek
>>79181476
>Weapons of war have no place on the streets of a developed nation.
You were saying, faggot?
>>79175899
i want dis so much for ruaf(( pecheneg is shit, SHIT
OP should not suck cock while posting.
Discuss.
Someone printed this AR-15 in their basement.
>>79165323
the only civilians in america are tourists, citizenship guarantees service
>>79182219
>implying that's safe to shoot
>>79180657
>20 round magazine
>>79182663
>It's not safe to shoot because I say so!
>Therefore it should be banned!
>You can trust me on this, I only have your best interests at heart!
>>>>>>>>The Bill of Needs
>>79165323
If they're responsible, and if they're not going to kill an innocent person with it, objectively, it doesn't matter if they carry it.
>>79165783
Who are you Piers Morgan? Machine gun, really? you obviously have no grasp of US laws so please shut up and go read.
>>79183138
>If they're responsible, and if they're not going to kill an innocent person with it, objectively, it doesn't matter if they carry it.
It's not the government's job to determine if someone is "responsible" and "not going to kill an innocent person with it".
There are gungrabbers in the government that think anyone wanting to own any firearms is "irresponsible" and "want to kill innocent people with it" thus no one should be allowed to own firearms.
>>79182663
>implying you aren't a faggo.
Anyway, yes, the AR-15 there is safe to shoot. These polymer blends are getting better and better. They can easily fire more shots than the Orlando buttfucked Muslim did.
you should be able to buy that with a licence from the ministry of internal affairs
otherwise what's stopping some lunatic from getting one and killing 100 people with it
>>79182663
It should be because nothing happens down there except for the trigger group but that has no effect on the integrity of the receiver
>>79177146
wrong
>>79183591
>you should be able to buy that with a licence from the ministry of internal affairs
So you should ask the government for permission to exercise your rights?
>otherwise what's stopping some lunatic from getting one and killing 100 people with it
If someone is so insane that they'd kill innocent people, what are they doing walking the streets?
>>79165323
Here's 1,305 ways to say fuck you.
>>79183591
After that law is passed, What's stopping some lunatic from getting one illegally and killing 100 people with it? Right now the only thing stopping someone from doing so is another guy with a gun.
>>79183284
Alcohol is much more heavily regulated by the federal government than it was before prohibition.
And that's good. I don't want 8 year olds drinking moonshine.
>>79182788
>>It's not safe to shoot because I say so!
>>Therefore it should be banned!
To be fair, maybe he was just confused and doesn't know they're made from similar materials.
Also, the beauty of 3D printing gun parts is that it can't be "banned", unless the government starts putting severe restrictions on the internet and invades our privacy even more, to make sure people aren't downloading gun parts. 3D printing further exposes the futility of gun control; if someone wants a gun, they are going to find a way to get one no matter what.
>>79183332
>It's not the government's job to determine if someone is "responsible" and "not going to kill an innocent person with it".
I'm just trying to level with them. The problem is innocent people being killed, right? If someone isn't going to kill someone with their gun, then why would it matter if they carried a gun around, as long as they're responsible with it? Not only is it my second amendment right, it's also the logical and moral decision.
All of the logic, facts, morality, fun, and freedom are on the pro-gun side, and the anti-gun side is the opposite of all of that.
>>79165323
Lost mine in a boating accident.
Honestly I want guns in this country
>>79180689
i mean that people should be the kind of people that can be trusted to do the right thing with the power of life and death.
not too many people today have that kind of calm sense of duty.
>>79165323
>1 post
sage
>>79181368
he was talking about cadence, not muzzle velocity, you sperg
>>79184096
What's wrong with 8 year olds drinking moonshine
>>79165323
Correct, civilians need more than 20 rounds to be effective.
>>79165323
The battle cry of cowards everywhere.
>>79165323
yeah, there's no reason for them not to carry weapons loaded with full-sized mags
>>79184162
>To be fair, maybe he was just confused and doesn't know they're made from similar materials.
Then he's making a decision from the realm of feelings, not facts. Which is a trait of gungrabbers.
>The problem is innocent people being killed, right?
No, that's the narrative.
The real problem is that they are trying to strip us of our rights one firearm, one bullet and one accessory at a time.
>If someone isn't going to kill someone with their gun, then why would it matter if they carried a gun around, as long as they're responsible with it?
They don't want you to have it regardless if you're responsible or not. They are trying to control the narrative that even owning a semi-auto rifle is irresponsible and thus, no one should have it.
>>79165323
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Sage
>>79165323
Public schools should train classes in firearm safety from elementary school though highschool and your diploma should sufficient when you pick up your AR on graduation day
>>79184937
>yeah, there's no reason for them not to carry weapons loaded with full-sized mags
The term you're looking for is "standard capacity."
Using the correct terminology allows you to control the narrative as the gungrabbers love to use inaccurate, loaded language.
>>79175436
Euro cucks literally cannot comprehend what you have just written
Its literally not in their DNA, it has been bred out of them
>>79172488
HEUHEUHEUEHE
>>79165323
Your feelings are not the law.
Especially a dirty foreigners feelings.
Double especially a favela monkey.
>>79185094
i stand corrected then. Standard capacity it is
>>79165323
I used to be all for Canadian gun laws, however, upon further thought, why bother?
>Gun violence is higher in the U.S.
Yes, because there are more guns, HOWEVER, violent crime in general is lower than many other first-world nations.
Murder is higher, since Americans are more successful at killing people.
I believe in a licensing system (though the ability to sign up for a license, and having the license once you've passed tests and whatnot should be rights, and then once you have a license, it's a right to own a gun) to ensure that insane people aren't able to purchase guns, but I hate limiting what legal gun owners can own, there's no reason for it.
>>79184047
>If someone is so insane that they'd kill innocent people, what are they doing walking the streets?
they havent detected he is a mental case yet
or maybe he is under the influence of drugs/alcohol and his condition is temporary
why allow him to buy weapons so easily
and yes, the state is a social contract that works in the common interest, which includes you, the meddling with your freedom is only with the function to secure you more freedom by stopping a lunatic from blowing your brains out just because he had a few extra beers that night and he cant control himself
just read Hegel, friend
>>79184083
>What's stopping some lunatic from getting one illegally and killing 100 people with it?
if not stopping it completely, atleast making it harder for them to get one is still of benefit
its completely insane to have the right to just walk in a store and get an assault rifle without any background check
people who are buying it in self defence and to protect their property will still be able to get them
>>79185226
>i stand corrected then. Standard capacity it is
:D
Another added bonus is that using the correct terminology allows you to trigger the fuck out of the gungrabbers. That's always fun!
>>79165323
>Brazil
>No Gun
>160 death = one day
It just works
>>79166343
112 guns per 100 citizens.
God damn that's amazing!
>>79185461
kek
supposedly Taurus only exports 90% of what it declares as exported, the rest never leave Brazil and go to the black market
Bait thread.
Sage
>>79185094
>loaded
Triggered
>trigger
Shit
>>79166343
your country has gun control laws you idiot
>>79185304
>they havent detected he is a mental case yet
Then there is no reason why he wouldn't be allowed to own a firearm thus you can't stop him from his shooting spree.
>or maybe he is under the influence of drugs/alcohol and his condition is temporary
In which case you wouldn't be able to stop the shooting spree as he'd be perfectly sane when buying the firearm.
>why allow him to buy weapons so easily
Becuase it's his right. If he's so mentally unstable or criminally violent that he'd kill innocent people, why is the government allowing him on the street? Fix the mental health system and the rehabilitation system and leave everyone's rights alone.
>and yes, the state is a social contract that works in the common interest, which includes you, the meddling with your freedom is only with the function to secure you more freedom by stopping a lunatic from blowing your brains out just because he had a few extra beers that night and he cant control himself
It's a good thing then that my rights should remain intact and I'd then be able to defend myself from him.
Oh wait...all those laws didn't stop the crazy person from getting a gun and those laws stop the law abiding from being able to defend themselves.
>>79185571
Taurus? HueHue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9_YWNo1f-o
>>79184057
Are those made of wood?
>>79185688
>those laws stop the law abiding from being able to defend themselves
again, how does it stop them?
>>79166343
That's only because you binged on your homicidal urges back in the 90s. The Americans never had such a release.
>>79185769
looks like a polymer
>>79182663
It's a lower bruh, the explosion is contained in the upper. The most common malfunction of poly lowers is cracking near the buffer tube.
>>79185814
by making them sitting ducks. Shooting an unarmed mass of people is like shooting fish in a barrel.
>>79185769
Bakelite.
>>79185814
>again, how does it stop them?
Gun free zones.
Specific gun model bans.
Ridiculous firearm accessory bans/mandatory equipment.
Making it incredibly difficult/expensive to buy/carry/use firearms.
Leaving them subject to the whims of gungrabbing politicians/bureaucrats.
>>79185769
Bakelite 45's.
>>79185304
>its completely insane to have the right to just walk in a store and get an assault rifle without any background check
>people who are buying it in self defence and to protect their property will still be able to get them
two words for you, Jo Cox. Also pic related.
And there's a big reason, the 2nd amendment is about defense from a tyrannical government.
>>79186084
>gun free zones
unless there is strict and armed security that checks everyone who enters the zone then I dont see why gun free zones are a good idea since they would be useless
>specific gun model bans
dumb
>accessory/equipment bans
dumb
>difficult/expensive to buy/carry/use
dumb
>leaving them subject to the whims of polititians
agreed, not a good idea
hmm
really makes me think
well, over here, they (Ministry of internal affairs) talk with people close to you to see if you are stable mentally, and decide if they want to give you a licence. Seems to work fine, but then, we can have a tyranical goverment and not give a shit, since we're not used to democracy.
>>79185304
>its completely insane to have the right to just walk in a store and get an assault rifle without any background check
Why do fucking nogunz Americans and norightz foreigners fucking think this?
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports/
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports/nics_firearm_checks_-_month_year.pdf
1.8 MILLION fucking background checks in May alone.
>>79186756
>unless there is strict and armed security that checks everyone who enters the zone
So you advocate for armed checkpoint at every single public place in your country?
>then I dont see why gun free zones are a good idea since they would be useless
Criminals don't follow gun free zones of course.
Law abiding citizens do and thus, they are at the mercy of those who break the law.
>dumb
>agreed, not a good idea
Of course they're all dumb. Gun control is dumb because it only affect the law abiding.
>well, over here, they (Ministry of internal affairs) talk with people close to you to see if you are stable mentally, and decide if they want to give you a licence.
So your rights are given to you by the government when you prove to the government that you deserve them.
And now that they know you're exercising those rights, they have the information to be able to take those rights away from you whenever they want.
>>79187055
And another fun fact. My unlce and I share our first and last names. I get a fucking business week hold every time I go to buy a gun because he's a fucking felon and they want to make sure I'm not him. SO FUCK YOU PEOPLE. There are fucking background checks already.
>>79187055
>Why do fucking nogunz Americans and norightz foreigners fucking think this?
likely because of Michael Moore films
>>79187199
>they have the information to be able to take those rights away from you whenever they want.
yes, but only do so, when there is a reasonable suspicion that I will be causing harm with them
otherwise the goverment still beleives that it is in the best collective interest that Im armed
we've been living in what you would consider dictatorship for the last 900+ years and more so...
