greeks are predominantly middle eastern semites who emigrated to europe with some european admixture. Purest greeks(most similar to ancient greeks) are cypriots and they can be as dark as some pakis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u25ywumvvk#t=60
greeks are honorary whites
>>79153346
define white
>>79153346
Backwards, greeks were originally white, then they mixed with ancient anatolians and eteocypriots and look like they do now.
>>79153346
but I thought you were very similar with greeks
>>79153346
No. Jews are non-white semitic parasites. Get your facts straight.
>>79153346
Shut your fucking mouth.
>>79153407
>>79153407
>79153407
duh people with white skin
>>79153557
> white skin
TOP KEK ^ 99999
>>79153346
Who wants to be part of the cuck race anyway ?
>>79153346
Who the hell would think, let alone imply that Greece is white?
Anyone who runs their country and economy like Turkroach rapebabies, ain't white.
>>79153545
don't get triggered mate. it's obvious bate from a non-existent country .
>>79153557
Autism.
>>79153557
define white skin
>>79153346
They're half turk, half anatolian
>>79153557
Totally white
>>79153346
Oh look, its another shitskin telling white people who's white.
>average Bulgarians above
>>79153346
AHAHAHAAHHAAHA. FECK OFF.
>>79153593
>>79153703
>>79153772
>>79153847
>t. i am greek
greeks have black hair, brown eyes and skin but pls say we wuz white
>>79153878
over 90% of greeks have brown eyes so thats an aryan there
>>79154094
You're not defining what you're posting so nobody knows what you're even talking about.
>>79153346
That's right, we Greeks are not white, never were.
We are not shitskin like the arabs and the kurds, we're not negros like that subsaharan africans, and we sure as hell not cumskins like the northwestern europeans.
We're on a league of our own and quite frankly, ours is the best race.
We're not dumb like the niggers, we're not manlets like the asians, we're not savages like the shitskins, and we're not degenerates like the whites.
Being Greek is the best thing that could ever happen to you.
When in the future the whites we'll have been cucked to extinction, asians will still be manlets and probably cucked to extinction too because their women don't like manlets, when Jews and Muslims will have killed each other and when Ooga Booga niggers will simply have remained Ooga Booga niggers, it is only the Greek man that will be standing and ruling the world as is our destiny.
>>79153407
we can go purer
>>79153346
>>79153557
>>79154094
video related is an intelligent bulgarian woman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVH4MS6v23U
that accent is qt.
>>79153346
it's not greeks claiming they are white. it's northerners claiming greeks are white, so that the white race has some more ancient accomplishments
I am greek
Can we please stop with the varying levels of white horseshit? Slavs are white. Italians are white. Spaniards are white. And yes, Greeks are white.
>>79154094
Like I said retard, not white.
Your b8 isn't that good either. 13 year old?
>>79153557
So Japs and other light skinned Asians are white?
Albinos of any race are white?
People with the disease that makes your kin white are white?
Retarded definition there baka desu
>>79154355
milf
>>79154298
FECK yes brother. We are not white nor we are shitskins. FECK the white sucking off our accomplishments and saying that Western civilization is Greek.
FECK white people. I thank my lucky stars that I was born Greek. Best ethnicity to be, good looking with long and proud history. Who wouldn't want to be Greek?
>>79154768
>t. Jose a ''white'' hispanic from El Passo
>>79154298
Quite a speech, and I find it hard to refute
>>79154817
Japs are white.
I know many greek people. They look very much white.
>>79154902
I knew I was going to get that.
>>79154817
>So Japs and other light skinned Asians are white?
no chinks have white skin retard, they're using skin lightning creams
>>79154732
phinlant y u do this ?
>>79154094
While Bulgarian, so automatically retarded, our friend here is right. Most Greeks have brown eyes, although the number is about 80%. If the definition you choose to give to "white" is coloured eyes, then most Greeks do not qualify.
>>79154889
>>79154965
>britbong
knew you faggots weren't white
This thread is now about hot Greek girls
Doukissa Nomikou
>>79155120
I wouldn't even make her pay denbts. Damn.
>>79155134
She'd pay her denbts to me multiple times, trust me.
>>79155237
cum
how pure can we go ?
>>79155024
average nip is whiter than average Ivanov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZQQx66AZaw
And better dancers to boot
>>79155120
Katerina Stikoudi
>>79155394
Goddamn. I'm trying to cut back on my fapping, anon, and you're making it hard.
>strip of land right next to turkey
>people magically expect it to be white
please
>>79155082
Don't even care mate- you are just cucks now. Have fun saying bye-bye to your race in the next 50 years or so
>>79154732
He looks Greek tbqh senpai
>>79155495
Hey what's it like living in Zimbabwe, Mungungo?
>>79155484
>>79155120
That girl is Polish, ethnically.
girl on the left is Doukissa Nomikou.
girl on the left is Julie Borowski, a Polish Libertarian.
They're practically the same person.
>>79155419
More Katerina Stikoudi
they're still European though
>>79154889
>Western civilization is Greek.
Western civilization is actually rooted in Greece.
>>79153346
Typically when someone makes one of these threads, they have to come from a white country themselves OP ya faggot.
Zeta Makripoulia
>>79155618
>said left twice
fuck you people i'm eating pizza and watching a lecture on the chemical history of a candle
>>79155484
Have fun saying bye bye to your influence and wealth in the next two.
>>79155796
Imagine how great it would feel to be with her. Damn.
>>79153346
T.hanks for letting us know, Asparukh KHAN.
>>79155558
It's shit, that's why I'm moving next month
>>79153346
Fuck of gypsy shill. They whiter then you.
Birth place of democracy and philosophy.
>>79155320
>>79153346
Don't care, my Greek fwb is nasty as all hell. I'm too addicted, man.
>>79153346
Aren't Bulgarians basically Greek?
I am Hellene! Watch faggots. Inspired by a similar Canadian video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MFvU18GGM3Y
"White" is a social construct anyway, who the fuck cares?
>>79156181
No, bulgarians are a mixture of slavs and ancient bulgarians (came from Asia)
>>79155618
Not even remotely faggot. I wonder how pitiful it must feel to not be Greek. Thank fuck I'm Greek.
>>79156461
>not even remotely
who do you think you're fooling
>>79153346
Beyond pic related, Greece is a series of Islands that all used to be independent states comprised of unique peoples who banded to together to form an alliance. Some Greeks are X race and some are Y and some are Z, etc.
>>79154298
Top Kek m8, your country will be detroyed before any of those other things happen
>>79153346
>u is not white
I basically agree Asen
Now, have I told you about this whorehouse in downtown athens, where busting my nut on a bulgarian hottie's face only costs me 20 euros?
>>79156553
Fuck off you 30o year old baby. Branding freedom as an American thing. Pshh. You have no idea of the concept of freedom
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MFvU18GGM3Y
>>79156748
Fact
>>79153623
Why you salty, 'Bent'
Did you stab yourself onto your ski when you were 12?
>>79156748
You're being overcharged. Bulgar whores are really cheap in Piraeus.
>>79153346
>Purest greeks(most similar to ancient greeks) are cypriots and they can be as dark as some pakis.
Swedes can be dark as well, and it happens way more often. The only difference is that Greeks need to stay in under the sun all day to get that dark. It's what happens when there are barely any clouds and much of their work is done outside.
Fellow compatriot, you're embarrassing yourself with this low-quality bait! Let's not shit on each other this time. We're all white!
>>79154732
Wasn't that guy some persian general in '300'?
And who was Leo? That aussie fag.
And who was Diosomething? That fassbinderberger fag.
>All of 'em white
>>79154974
It's because you're seeing only black in your streets, Sven
>>79155929
Why the fuck would you ever live in Zimbabwe
Now posting Greek Americans (some are mixed)
Sasha Grey
>>79157395
>Grey
Greeks confirmed not white
>>79155237
Back in the cuckshed.
>>79155929
...Oh really? What proxy you gonna move to next?
>>79157395
Jennifer Aniston
>>79157395
Really? I thought that she was a Jew.
>>79155483
Ahaha a Swiss cuck. Don't you have some money laundering to do?
>>79157523
John Stamos
>>79155483
>albanians calling us brown
Oh the irony..
>>79156461
How much will your tuition fees cost after the formal brexit, 'mate'?
>>79157467
She 'sho is white, she's been on every black dick around
>>79156611
What?
>>79157501
Hopefully Netherlands Antilles. I've been looking for that flag forever.
>>79157704
Won't affect me. Any tuition fees increments are going to be in effect in +2-3 years for people who are just starting their course. I'm doing my PhD with scholarship next year after annihilating all my Anglo-Saxon neanderthal coursemates and getting a distinction in my Masters
>>79153346
http://www.theapricity.com/earlson/history/hellas.htm
>>79153346
I absolutely agree
Greeks are Greeks. They don't seem to fit in anywhere (like Jews) because they are the master race.
>>79157127
>purest Greeks
>Cypriots
My God, what a retard.
>>79158198
That was a quote from the OP. Learn to read instead of praising him.
>>79158142
"Not less remarkable than the small size of Hellas was the small number of the Hellenes themselves. We have no accurate record of the proportion of free citizens who alone constituted the true Hellenes, but they were most a small minority among the larfe population of helots and slaves. These slaves chiefly Thracians and Slavonians, and together with those of the towns, formed at least one-half of the town. It is from this mixed stock of few freemen, many perioeci, more helots and foreign slaves that the present Greeks must deduce their descent, even if the interval of 2000 years does not in itself make the attempt impossible. The best type of the race soon disappeared. It is discouraging to learn from Tacitus that even in his time the race of old Athenians was extinct, and Athens itself populated by people of different races. And Finlay adds that the lineal descendants of the Spartans did not survive Roman conquest and soon the best known Greeks became extinct."
(Greece - the Spoilt Child of Europe / Edited by James Knowles / July - December 1879 / Vol. VI)
>>79155928
Don't forget our greatest leader.
>>79153346
Lol what fucking countty do you live in? Im guessing it's some irrelevant shithole.
>>79154298
Amen my dude. Zeus will guide us into greatness once again.
>>79156704
You will not be saved. you are weak, and the weak have no voice.
>>79158901
>1879
>Comprehensive research
Pick one.
>>79159873
you: It's the 1879 year!
>>79159873
PS. You forgot to get on Tacitus' case.
>>79159873
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus
>>79159988
Yeah, that's what I said.
>>79160056
What about him? What's so important about what he said?
>>79156704
What's a little crisis gonna do that Turks couldn't do in 400 years?
We're gonna outlive you all.
Your countries will be long dead, primitive african countries, nuked muslim wasteland, radioactive asian countries, and western countries that are no longer white because that would be racist.
But we're still gonna be there. We're gonna win the long game, we didn't found western civilization so the barbarians can reap its benefits, you know.
Greeks have never been snownigger white theyve always been olive.
>>79154298
Malaka mou den to exw skeftei pote etsi. History will repeat itself.
None of those pics are real. They would have everyone take the same picture, unless they told all greeks to close their mouths and all Indians to open them.
>>79153346
Reminder that the jews hate greeks.
>>79153346
>>79153385
>>79153407
>>79153557
That's just social contruct skin color doesn't define race. White skin is a mutation that happened when europeans where already a mixed race and mixed with middle eastern farmers. Besides native europeans WHG has very brown or even black skin(half of genes for light skin europeans have are from levantines, while the rest are a mutation) and had americoid admixture. Middle eastern basal eurasian farmers were lighter bu still swarthy , the reason why predominantly ENF/Basal populations are darker than europeans today is because they didn't get second mmutation for even lighter skin due to desert climate, that european got after mixing with middle easterners.
>>79153544
What this goy said!
>>79153544
Askhenazi jews are the same as greeks, italians and spaniards - semi middle eastern population mixed with europeans and thet's why the cluster near each other in genetic studies.
>>79157395
Obviously not a pure greek.
>>79153346
They are Christians on the European mainland with a European culture and history. Thats all that mattets.
Everybody in Europe is white with the exception of Bosniaks and Albanians.
>>79153346
Greeks are as white as slavs
>>79166717
>>79166717
And this why predominantly levantine south europeans are darker but they are still caucasoid and so are arabs but modern arabs are mixed with negroids due to slavery and slightly with australoids that were most ancient pre caucasoid population in middle east.
Here is map. ENF is middle eastern farmer admixture as you can see mainland greeks are 63% so Cypriots must be well over 80% at the very least.
>>79167850
Haplogroups mean jack shit here is a better map>>79168031
Who cares ?
They form together with Italians the oldest and most influential European cultural environment
Both of them don't look white in northern European standart, though
>>79168031
As you see even polish master race is 34% middle eastern so there is no shame in this as middle easterners created first civilisations.
>>79160482
You tried to dismiss with 1879! but accounts of greek demographics aren't limited to one assessment at one point in time.
http://www.theapricity.com/earlson/history/hellas.htm
>>79153346
It is the Aryan who has furnished the great building-stones and plans for the edifices of all human progress; only the way in which these plans have been executed is to be attributed to the qualities of each individual race. Within a few decades the whole of Eastern Asia, for instance, appropriated a culture and called such a culture its own, whereas the basis of that culture was the Greek mind and Teutonic skill as we know it. Only the external form - at least to a certain degree - shows the traits of an Asiatic inspiration.
>mein kampf.
If hitler considered us aryan what can a bulgar autist say?
>>79155625
Similar to this yemeni
>>79158901
Funny fact is that greeks admitted being jewish.
http://stevenmcollins.com/html/simeon.html
>>79154298
Well you are closest to arabs but they have negroid impurities now.
mediterranean socialist union when? we need to rebuild
>>79168572
Nice try with pseudoscience and 'historians'. Why do you get so bothered that ancient civilisations that mattered were not Nordic? That's right, you were the barbarians. Now you have the upper hand. Civilisations come and go. The gifts of the Greco-Roman civilisation to the world are unmatched, but it wasnt a Nordic one. And that's that.
Is Greece an eastern european country?
>>79172501
Looking at the map what do you think.
>>79172492
So now you reject Homer too? OK, slave descendant, youbkingsnshit.
Reminder that the Ancient Greeks were White people
>"Greeks" will deny this
>>79172501
Geographically and in terms of religion yes.
Culturally we are closer to the rest of the southern europeans.
>>79154889
>feck
top o' the mornin' to ye, Paddy
>>79172617
Looking at the map of course it is, but do greeks feel like they're part of the balkan family?
>>79172699
>we wuz philosophers an sheeit yo greek man not white
t. 1/74 german, 1/45 french, 1/55 swede billy 14/88 aryan warrior
>>79172699
No they were swarthy levantines predominantly as cypriot skeletons are most similar to ancient ones over 4000 years ago and cypriots are from olive to punjabi brown. Cypriots cluster with druze, syrians, lebanese and assyrians. There may have been nordic minorities but original greeks are middle easterners.
>>79172653
Explain this then: Why didn't the predominately blonde Nordic populations produce anything of cultural importance all those centuries until they came in contact with the Greco-Roman civilisation? They had the genetic upper hand right? They should have ascended from barbarism ages before the shitskins.
You sound more and more like we wuz kangz murican.
>>79173169
Middle easterners are greeks, not greeks middle easterners.
>>79172950
More or less. There are some common cultural traits.
>>79173124
This meme always cracks me up
>>79173479
Bulgarians got cucked by us for almost 2 centuries
>>79173274
>until they came in contact with the Greco-Roman civilisation
Top kek, your timeline is screwed, you do know who Homer is, right? He lived ~800 years before there was a Rome, his writings about then and hundreds of years before even that.
>>79173709
Racially there in nor much of a difference between greeks and bulgarians both are largely semitic. Mediterranean=Levantine while Southwest Asian=Gulf Arab.
>>79174261
>>79174314
>>79174261
Compare to Lebanese
>>79174519
40% of the population of lebanon is christian and its mostly greek so its complicated.
>>79174147
Murican stop taking drugs. Yes Homer was before Rome, but Romans adopted many elements of the Greek culture , expanded them and added their own. They pushed their empire across almost every corner of Europe and the Mediterranean Sea and that's how Greco Roman culture spread.
>>79174685
>>79174685
No greeks never made that much on impact on lebanon(north european in lebanin is much smaller and greeks got that from mixing with native europeans) though greeks themselves came from levant in prehistoric times.
>>79174748
Homer was before Rome in which he described the Greek rulers, but you discount their descriptions because it doesn't fit what you see in the mirror.
>>79174519
Go get drunk polish aryan master race, you need it.
>>79175047
Butthurt much?
>>79153407
European caucasoid
>>79174261
>>79174314
>>79174519
Greeks are shitskins then, got anything from binland?
>>79175322
No such thing as european caucasoids as all europeans are already mixed with middle eastern caucasoids.
>>79175385
Being levantine doesn't mean necessary that you are a shitskin. Those from lebanon that look like arabs are from the islamic invasions but there are still white levantines.
>>79175385
Then so are all south and southeastern europeans and even some west europeans too because even Britain is 50% semitic while Poland 34%.
>>79175878
It's funny how human evolution triggers poltards like refugees trigger sjws.
>>79176153
just ruined their dream of a "pure white race"
Greeks are pic related.
Eternally thirsty for Turkish cum.
>>79175694
>White levantines
What, are those like the Mexican intellectuals you hear so much about?
>>79175694
Many levantines can be dark check how dark cypriots can be many lebanese are dark too but less dark then cypriots despite having small negroid admixture and bigger gulf arab admixture than cypriots so, as I said skin color doesn't determine race though it can indicate negroid or australoid admixture like it does in India(aistraloid) and for example Yemen(negroid) but middle easterners are naturally swarthy though in ancient times they probably had different skin tones depending on tribe/ethnic group and region due to enviromental adaptations, admixtures between populations and mutations. Generally speaking tho they are desert adapted thus darker and modern ones have negroid and australoid admixture much bigger than what south europeans have due to their islamic slave trade and veddoids being ancient natives of middle east .
Someone wanna make an poll for this? The majority of greeks in Germany are white with brown eyes and hair. Almost all turks here are darkskined and very few would pass as white.
>>79174962
Homer also wrote about sea monsters and witches. Not exactly historian. Again why did Nordics became civilised way later than the Southerners if they were so superior?
P.S. You might not know it burger but blonde Greeks exist to this day. Imagine that.
>>79176594
Fuck off efendi you cuckold.
they all look white to me, fuck it.
>>79176743
Just don't forget we aren't cypriots. Cyprus was a greek colony.
>>79175232
Not really, I'm not the one acting superior to shitskins when the Brits make you their bitch, deport you, call you vermin and you still suck up to them calling them brothers.
>>79176989
were accepting applications sense were running out of people.
greek - white
iranian - white
iranian - white
>>79177392
*indian - white
>>79177461
minorities in america - somehow now white.
>>79153557
>Glad to know you finally accept me as my true race
>>79166717
You realize this is conspiracy-tier nonsense, right? Anyone can test their DNA to see what ancestry they have. Most Europeans have no Middle Eastern admixture whatsoever.
>>79153346
I don't give a fuck what color we are. We civilized the world.
Kali fucking mera bitch.
>>79176247
Pure white race never existed existed in the first place as native european WHGs had black skin(with blue eyes) and had amerindian admixture before mixing with lighter skinned but still swarthy levantines and then they mixed with ANE which had americoid and australoid admixture.
>>79178159
So any explanation about the blue eyed, blonde greeks?
Could it be the celtic tribes of anatolia?
Am Greek living in Germany, how dark white am I?
>>79178987
your skin is as white as mine tb h
>>79177001
Cypriots are real greeks they preserved their arabic racial heritage better thanks to being isolated on an Island. Cypriot skeletons are most similar to greek skeletons from neolithic times.
http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/fallmerayer/
Buxton who had earlier studied Greek skeletal material and measured modern Greeks, especially in Cyprus, finds that the modern Greeks “possess physical characteristics not differing essentially from those of the former [ancient Greeks].”
Spartans even claimed that jews are their kin.
http://stevenmcollins.com/html/simeon.html
>>79177980
All europeans have substantial levantine and gulf arab ancestry according to genetic tests, even north europeans have over 20% semitic dna while south europeans can have over 60%, british have 50% while Poland has 34%.
North europeans have less semitic admixture but more mongoloid and americoid so genetically are even less white(caucasoid) than brown saudis who are 93% caucasoid while russians are over 15% mongoloid and Finns/Estonians over 13%.
>>79168031
>>79176903
>P.S. You might not know it burger but blonde Greeks exist to this day. Imagine that.
Yes, remnants remained.
fourth century AD, Adamantius, an Alexandrian physician and scientist, wrote in his Physiognominica, that “of all the nations the Greeks have the fairest eyes,” adding, that “wherever the Hellenic and Ionic race has been kept pure, we see tall men of fairly broad and straight build,… of fairly light skin, and blond.”
Praxiteles’ Aphrodite, from the Greek city of Knidos, was the most famous and most copied statue in the ancient world. Hundreds of copies survive. Experts have determined from microscopic paint particles that Aphrodite was painted blonde.
Many small terra-cotta figurines from Greece of the fourth century BC have survived with traces of paint. They show light hair, usually reddish brown, and blue eyes, as do larger statues from the time of the Persian Wars in the early fifth century BC.
There is more evidence of the appearance of the Greeks. Xenophanes, an Ionian Greek philosopher who lived in the fifth century BC, was amused to note that different peoples believed that the gods look like themselves: “Our gods have flat noses and black skins, say the Ethiopians. The Thracians (despite Prof. Cohen’s observations above) say our gods have red hair and hazel eyes.” Indeed, a fourth century BC fresco of a Thracian woman, found in the Ostrusha Mound in central Bulgaria, shows distinctly red hair and European features.
According to the Roman historian Diodorus Sicilus, who lived in the first century BC, the Egyptian god Set had “reddish hair,” a color that was “rare in Egypt, but common among the Hellenes.” Plutarch (46–120 AD) tells us that while the Theban general Pelopidas (d. 364 BC) was campaigning in central Greece, he had a dream in which a ghost urged him to sacrifice a red-haired virgin..
http://blog.chinadaily.com.cn/thread-1556244-1-1.html
>>79179594
Heh even Germans have 53% semitic DNA.
>>79179836
Not that was bullshit greeks definitely were never fairest as cypriots are good proxy to roigina lgreeks and they are dark and so are mainland greeks to lesser extent thanks to north europ admixture. Some ancient greeks idealised nordics so they wrote bullshit.
>>79178522
North european admixture, there probably were lighter nordic tribes in th region and they also had slaves from many different areas.
>>79174314
>>79173709
And we've been cucking you since 681. Most Byzantine bitches came to the bulgarian tzars. With good reason, too.
>>79179106
>>79175411
That's like saying that there's no Asian as, after all, they are just mixed Eurasian non-Africans.
Structure forms with time and admixture, you just have to "zoom" enough. Of course West Eurasians aka Caucasians are all close together if you look at things from far away including negroids and asians, but looking at west Eurasia only you can find other patterns.
>>79179892
where do you get these charts from
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>>79180105
>Some ancient greeks idealised nordics
Yeah, they've been doing that since before Homer's time(I wonder why..,) yet some believe nords didn't enter the picture until around 1400 years later during Rome era.
>>79179836
Same old anecdotal stuff. There is still much debate about what the ancient Greeks meant by blonde-xanthos and they mention 'fairly' light skin. And you still haven't answered my question.
>>79158901
>greek
>not degenerate
LOL
>>79181413
>paint analysis
>remains
>anecdotal
denial is you.
>And you still haven't answered my question.
Remind me.
>>79181614
It's not really funny, that's what jews are trying to do to all of us Whites today.
>>79181081
That's because of different ratios of admixtures and genetic bottlenecking/mutations etc. Doesn't change the act that south europeans are all over 50% middle eeastern and even germans are 53% middle eastern.
>>79181232
They were a tiny minority .
>>79153557
Guys am I white? See white skin
>>79181413
If you're referring to this:
>>79177095
>Again why did Nordics became civilised way later than the Southerners if they were so superior?
The answer is they didn't become civilized way later, as I've been showing you, Whites were in large part the ancient Greek ruling class.
>>79182314
The ruling minority.
>>79182389
Nah they were a regular minority not like you were a king for having blonde hair. That's stormfag fairy tales.
>>79182069
You are using these terms in a way that makes little sense. What do you think paleo-Europeans are if not upper paleolithic middle easterners that moved to mainland Europe and shifted away due to time and geography? Makes little sense to use the term middle easteners as if it represents anything going on right now in the middle east.
The reason why at certain K Europe, in particular s. Euro, picks up some ME is because there was a more recent admixture event in the Neolithic, which certainly makes us closer again, but then again after the Neolithic contact stopped and the NE in more recent times got slowly swamped by other peoples and even sub saharan africans.
If in those cluster analysis results you are taking you increase the number of clusters, you'll see that at a certain point more structure emerges.
>>79153346
I am a Greek.
>>79182579
"The study of Greek literature which Sieglin (1935) performed, has demonstrated that many individuals in the elites of ancient Greece, had blond or red hair. For instance, Alcibiades, Alexander the Great, Critias, Demetrius of Phalerum, King Lysimachus, Ptolemy II Philadelphus and King Pyrrhus, were all fair-haired individuals. Dionysius I, the ruler of Syracuse, had blond hair and freckles, whilst the Athenian playwright Euripides, also had a fair and freckled complexion. [Günther (1956).] Some critics have attempted to claim that the Greek word “ksanthos” (xanthos), means “brown-haired”, rather than “blond-haired”. However, a recent article by Moonwomon (1994), on colour-meaning in ancient Greek, reveals that the word did in fact mean blond."
http://www.theapricity.com/earlson/history/hellas.htm
>>79182344
you pass, go play golf. our go to suburbia.
>>79182725
Native europeans were WHG/SHG/EHG/BHG/CHG(In Caucasus) hunter gatherers who had americoid admixture, they were invaded by neolithic levantine farmers(then pure tropical caucasoids) and later on Europe was invaded by ANE who weren't pure caucasoids at all. So Europe is a melange of caucasoid and noncaucasoid races. So similar to modern MENA in a way but they are even more mixed now.>>79176743
>>79182832
Alexander the Great had black hair and his study isn't credible clearly nazi propaganda inspired.
>>79183377
I didn't realize the German national socialist regime extended back that far.
http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/alexanderarticles/ss/031211-What-Color-Was-Alexander-The-Greats-Hair.htm
>>79182363
Nope. Stop ignoring stuff that don't suit your narrative. The northern parts of Europe that hosted the so called superior white genes in large numbers were barbarian and emerged way later from cultural insignificance.
There's some actual preserved coloring for you. All hues and tones are present in all kinds of artifacts. That doesn't prove social status. Just because one king in some kingdom was fairly light skinned that doesn't mean it was the norm.
>>79153346
>Be Spaniard
>Wife is Greek
Will our children be made of debt?
>>79157244
Bulgarians are turk rape babies don't fool yourself.
But its correct that alot of Greeks aren't white.
>>79183732
It wasn't the norm for the lower classes.
We may note that Angel (1944), calculated that during the Classical period of Greek history (650—150 BC), 27% of the Greek population had been predominantly Nordic in type. He observed that prior to the Classical period, the Nordic element had been larger, and that after it, the element in question had declined. [Angel (1943; 1944; 1945; 1946a, b, c.] Angel (1971), also noted that the immigrant Indo-Europeans, were of Nordic subrace.
Peterson (1974), studied portrait busts of famous ancient Greek personages, and concluded that the aristocracies of Hellas were a product of closely interbreeding, Eupatrid clans. These clans were mostly Nordic in type, being largely descended from the Indo-European invaders. The demos, or common people however, as well as most slaves, were of Mediterranean, Pelasgian descent.
who. gives. a. fuck?
>>79184016
Greeks were never predominantly nordic in fact they were as dark as cypriots in the beginning so this is bullshit because they become lighter over time due to mixing with other europeans.
>>79153346
Cypriots aren't actually Greek at all, they are Semitic. They just speak Greek.
Genetic research also shows that Greeks are more or less the same with ancient Greeks.
>>79183249
The point is that you are using these admixture results in the wrong way.
The fact that in >>79176743 Europeans and near easterners are both overall blue doesn't mean we're the exact same shit, it just means that if you only consider 6 cluster on a global analysis, we end up in the same one due to us being overall closer to them than we are to the other 5(after all, we are all caucasians).
Increasing the number of clusters you are going to see further subdivisions. In particular, the emergence of European specific clusters doesn't directly tell you about the underlying ancestry in terms of ancient macropopulations, it just tells you that there's a specific cluster that is geographically European.
The link of s. Europe with the near east is fundamentally Neolithic. But then shit happened, further mixing happened in both places.
>>79184555
What you've just responded to doesn't assert majority, in fact the opposite, only 27% during the classical period, larger before that time, and less as time went on.
>>79153346
Greeks and Bulgars are actually very close to Indo-Aryan people, who were basically brown people.
Hitler started this meme about Aryans being blond, which is hilariously wrong.
>>79168031
o fugg im 50% white :DDDD
>>79184812
They aren't the same but europeans have substantial and south europeans(over 60%) predominant levantine and gulf arab admixture.
>>79185140
What nationality are you?
>>79184925
This is false as greek had zero nordic in the beginning and more over time.
>>79153346
That's that saying Obama is black. He's not. he's a white-black mixbreed.
>>79185446
What you assert is false as I've been showing.
>>79185635
No you showed nazi based pseudo research.
>>79184716
>tfw turks are the only ones defending us and all europeans are backstubing us in every thread
>>79185635
Cypriots are original greeks and they aren't nordic whatsover.
>>79153407
Can not be defined. 'Race' is a social construct after all.
>>79173169
Wrong. Nice Polish proxy btw.
>>79185635
I would revise this to say as far as the Hellenic period goes, pre-Hellenic were dark haired.
>>79184016
Stop acting stupid and avoiding my question. Don't care about what some insecure western historians cherrypick to make themselves feel better.
Clear question: Why were the ancient Nordic territories barbarian shitholes?
>>79153346
who the fuck cares you gypsy shitface?
Having self-esteem issues again for being on the wrong side of WW2?
>>79184559
Triggered ameripoor?
>>79153346
Average Greek
Prove me wrong
>>79184716
Cypriots are original greeks who were brown levantines, notice where cypriots cluster.
I already proved cypriots skeleton are most similar to ancient greek skeletons. Mainland greeks mixed with nordics but are still mostly brown.
>>79179594
>>79186008
I haven't been avoiding, your premise is that White only equals "nordic territories" which is wrong.
>>79185927
Not a proxy but I don't believe in stormfag nazi pseudo science, proven wrong by modern science.
>>79154298
>We're not dumb
IQ lower than Croatia and Moldova,Moldova has more mathematics gold medals than you
>we're not manlets
everyone is under 1.7m
> we're not savages
chimp out at every football game,chimpout whenever drunk
>we're not degenerates
women are whores,men are stupid drunkards with no values
t. greek grandma from aristocratic family
>>79153474
Incorrect, ancient sources (Aristotle and Xenophon) say Greeks were darker than the Persians, and lighter than the Egyptians.
>>79186291
That's the wording you use. Now that you can't explain it you're trying to turn it around to save face for your precious Nordics.
>>79186561
Back to pickpocketing proud Roman.
>>79186706
Wasn't it Aristotle that considered blonde hair and blue eyes a sign of cowardice?
>>79153346
> Iranian
> Indian
> not white
>>79186258
>>79164738
>>79164738
This.
>>79187270
>>79153346
>GREEKS ARE NOT WHITE
well duh
who said they where?
