Forget the politics. Who's the better speaker? Obama or Trump? Also who would win in a fight?
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Obama is 54 while trump is 70
Trump is an old man.
As for speaker trump can easily rouse people by saying obscene shit and obama keeps it to the letter coming out more rational. Both cater to certain demographics.
>>79148115
Its a midget
Obama is a great public speaker and can always turn something around to be a positive for him, but Trump is something else, he's such a good speaker he can trick the media into doing that for him.
>>79148209
What? The media hates him.
>>79148081
I don't feel comfortable with people randomly posting prepubescent girls on pol.
>>79148175
post more midgets with underdeveloped tits :^)
>>79148325
/pol/ in general doesn't feel comfortable with people from your country posting but you all do it anyways
Obongo, like Hillary, can't speak unless it's been pre written and rehearsed.
>>79148470
Theres nothing wrong with that. Lots of good presidents have done good speeches pre-written and rehearsed.
Obama is cliche politician speak
Trump is electrifying. More like a standup comedian than a politician.
obviously I can't stand hillary's voice. nobody can. but I hate listening to most republican politicians.
and I identify mostly as a libertarian but Gary Johnson FUCKING SUCKS at talking. he will win over nobody, and he is a disgrace to the liberty movement
Trump is light years ahead of every politician in terms of speaking.
>>79148313
Which makes the trick even more impressive.
>>79148470
That's not true! Obama does perfectly okey-dokey without a teleprompter.
>>79148081
Obama is better orater hands down
>>79149157
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKXSgB7MEUU
Sure thing buddy.
Why do I have to choose between a bad college professor and my rambling, senile grandpa? Sure grandpa will say something crazy every once in a while, but 99% of the time it's just rambling.
Why can't I pick pre-candidate Trump? He was a pretty good speaker back then. Now it's all "isn't this great" and "how about that?"
Say what you want about him but Obama is an inspiring orator on his day, can't deny that
>>79149545
You're watching his rallies and none of his other speeches. I don't know why it surprises you that they're simple.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUW2-MUonbo
>>79149713
Those are all teleprompter speeches and if you ask me not Trump's strong point. Mostly just Republican doctrine at this point. I miss TV interview Trump and financial hearing Trump. These days he seems too burnt out to go off script with the same effectiveness.
>>79148081
Trump and Trump.
"No country has ever prospered that failed to put it's own interests first. Both our friends and our enemies put their countries above ours, and we, while being fair to them, must start doing the same. We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism. The nation-state remains the true foundation of happiness and harmony. I am skeptical of international unions that tie us up and bring America down, and under my administration, we will never enter America into any agreement that reduces our ability to control our own affairs"
>>79148081
Trump has the voice of a 14 uears old girl...
>>79149902
I just disagree, honestly. He's saying things that very few people are saying quite frequently.
Not all of his speeches are teleprompter speeches, by the way, and everything he does is prepared to some extent.
>>79148526
there's a lot wrong with it. it's a negative trait
the question is whether they have enough positive ones to offset it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aIr_0hnsdI
>>79149902
>Those are all teleprompter speeches.
I know that. Do you think Obama's speeches are off the cuff? He's horrible without his prompter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM
I don't know what the overall point of your argument is supposed to be. Do you want superfluous and misleading language in politics? Politicians have always been infamous for it, I suppose it's something to be missed.
>>79148171
Obama cannot speak without a teleprompter. If-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKXSgB7MEUU
>Obama is a good public speaker
Who started this meme?
Even in 2007 when he was running, it was obvious how terrible he is at it. It's like he went to public speaking classes, and then intentionally went out of his way to do the exact opposite of everything he learned.
He has no charisma, no energy, stutters like a bitch, takes 7 minutes to say a sentence, and has poor body language.
>>79149902
>>79150480
>>79150696
For any of you guys interested, I'm going to link an essay by George Orwell (1984, Animal Farm) on politics and the English language. I thought it was insightful.
http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/
>>79150608
Try upping your reading comprehension a bit, little buddy. I never said teleprompter speeches were bad just that Trump wasn't very good at them (they don't fit his energy) and I never said Obama was any good either (they DO fit his energy... which is very very droning). OP asked me who the better orator is and I said they both suck.
I just got done listening to Nigel Farage in another thread. There's a bit of an orator. Compared to him this entire election cycle is a bunch of stiff necks (Sanders had a tone to him, but he was fucking bat shit). We haven't had a good American orator candidate sense Ronald Reagan.
>>79151038
You seem like a faggot
>>79151134
We got a little orator here. Guess I lost your attention when I couldn't fit all of my strong opinions in 140 characters.
>>79151221
You do seem like a faggot, little buddy.
>>79148081
>Teleprompter and a team of writers
Obama > Trump
>No Teleprompter and team of writers
Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Osama
>Notes on a piece of paper
Trump > Obama
>>79151282
Sorry I offended your delicate sensibilities. Guess people who are easily electrified are easily ruffled as well.
>>79151038
I agree with you, Farage blows the fuck out of anything America has to offer as far as oration goes. I like Trump, I often like listening to him, but he is not an excellent communicator. Boris Johnson's speech at the end of the final brexit debate and every time Nigel opens his mouth are great examples of clear, effective speaking. They make me want to listen to them more.
>>79148808
>prime jailbait
>midget
You fucking sure?
>>79151332
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>>79151449
I'm not ruffled, you're just a twat. It's that simple.
My reading comprehension is fine.
>Sanders had a tone to him.
Yeah, like a New York jew sending back a sandwich in a deli.
OP have any more pics?
>>79148081
Its been a long time since I've seen this picture
Obama has a more professional bearing than Trump. Trump is more funny and better off the cuff.
I would put even odds on a fight. If it goes for longer than 30 seconds, Obama would win due to fitness superiority. Trump's weight advantage and possible aggression may get him a quick TKO.
>>79148081
That butt is photoshopped
who is this fluid druid
>>79151472
>Farage blows the fuck out of anything America has to offer.
Sounds like you're a little girl being swooned by a Brit accent.
>I like Trump, I often like listening to him
Then what about this makes him a bad orator? He's effective even in the simplest communication, his turnouts are great and he gets the point across. I'm not interested in the contrived, overuse of words in politics anyway.
And I can't stand to listen to Obama, or look at him. I haven't been able to for years, and most everyone else is tired of his formulaic speeches as well.
