Waw.... Really makes you think
>>79029810
Of course he's backpedaling on his Muslim ban, have you seen his latest poles results?
his problem, is not the Muslim ban.
>>79029810
Wasn't it always about the region though? Trump knows what he's doing, he's a master manipulator.
>>79029810
>targeting countries with re odds of terrorism
So Muslim countries.
>>79029810
>politician refines his idea as it goes from vague general idea to something he's actually going to implement
whew, genuinely compelled me to ponder
>>79030758
>"i'll ban all muslim immigration, mark my words"
>vague and general idea
LOL
DRUMPF FINALLY #STUMPFT
HAHAHAHAHA NAZIS WE TOLD YOU SO
>>79030851
tell me Samir how it could get more vague
>>79030410
/thread
>>79031472
Yo, China.
Role.
>>79031701
Wow. Maybe I will become the whitest man.
>>79029810
Asskissing followed by rape
>>79030247
>>79030758
You guys move the goalposts every fucking time this guy does a U-turn and claim he's somehow been consistent.
Don't you get tired? Seriously, answer this, what could he actually say or do that would cause you to rethink your support for him? There's nothing. You're adherents to a cult now, blind faith is all that is required.
trump is a cuck
>>79031909
There's plenty he could say. My entire gameplan for months has been to wait and see if he gives me an excuse to reject, and that's what I continue to be on the lookout for.
But so far everything is going more or less according to my expectations, and only a high-functioning few can still give me doubts worth keeping in mind.
>>79031472
sigh
>>79031909
You guys move the goalposts every fucking time $Hillary does a U-turn and claim she's somehow been consistent. Don't you get tired? Seriously, answer this, what could she actually say or do that would cause you to rethink your support for her? There's nothing. You're adherents to a cult now, blind faith is all that is required.
>>79032583
Yeah, and that too. All you've ever got is to spout
>b-b-b-b-but... Hillary!!
Like a fucking mewling baby. I never even expressed support for Hillary. I don't support her, you mouthbreathing cunt. We're talking about Trump.
>>79032199
Congratulations on being a complete fucking retard
>>79032790
That's a good argument. I'll keep that in mind.
>>79030247
Is they why he's badly losing?
>>79029810
Not really. Trump is just a used car salesman turning 180 on his promises. It's no surprise to anyone who saw past his words and into his past.
He hated the Enquirer until his friend became the Chief Editor and stopped running pieces against him. He flipped on abortion more times in a weekend than a gymnast at the Olympics. He's just a white trash icon who markets himself well to the unthinking limbic-enslaved tribal masses.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no Shillary fan, I'd prefer Johnson over either of them, but Trump has never been a good choice to anyone who actually hates fatcat businessmen and sees them for the bastards they are. That's all Trump is. People want the country to stop being run by Wall Street financers and corporate donators, so they try to elect a corporate donator directly? What fucking sense does that make?
http://therightstuff.biz/2016/06/27/winners-dont-think-about-losing/
>With this pivot to the general, we must recognize there will be a degree of Trump softening his tone and recalibrating his message. For you autistes out there, this does not mean Trump is cucking himself, nor does it mean that he is in the process of being neutered by Manafort. In fact, not one of Trump’s policy positions has changed. What will change is the language Trump uses to discuss these policy positions. The (((media))) has already started to use this sea change as a means of discrediting Trump by driving a wedge between him and his committed base of support. We should be vigilant of this as a strategy and not poke holes in the bottom of our own boat, which is ultimately what (((they))) want us to do.
Read it. This was predicted, expected and is a good tactic. The Trump train isn't stopping, it is just changing gears as the terrain changes.
>>79031472
Check em
Even if Trump were elected they'd just hold another vote like they did when Britain tried to leave the EU.
>>79030410
>So Muslim countries.
Ding! Ding! Ding! The policy remains the same, just sold with a different label.
>>79032861
>He hated the Enquirer until his friend became the Chief Editor and stopped running pieces against him.
That's a very reasonable reason to change your mind.
>He flipped on abortion more times in a weekend than a gymnast at the Olympics
He changed his mind once. So did I once I realised its murder.
Is that all you got?
he's just making rebranding his policies to be more normie-friendly to actually win the election you fucking shills
>>79031472
Rollin baby
>>79031472
Roll for being white again
>>79031472
Rollan bby
>>79032861
>Don't get me wrong, I'm no Shillary fan, I'd prefer Johnson over either of them,
why did ron paul run on the republican ticket, when he is more libertarian than johnson?
>>79030081
It's a severe tactical mistake. His base is widely for a temporary ban.
>moving goalposts
JUST
>>79030410
Of course. The media kikes are trying to create a narrative of flipping. People will probably fall for it because they are sheep.
>>79031472
roll, lets see where my shit luck takes me
>>79035803
That's still what it is. A ban from mostly Muslim countries. The intention was never to ban every single fucking brown person from entering a country because they might be a mudslime if they can come from a place like Canada or the millions of them who already live in the US. There's no backtracking, just clarifying the policy. Even parties like the BNP don't have these policies.
People need to stop crying wolf every time Trump says anything. If he says something that's really fully backtracking, it should be noted, but people do this every single time Trump says anything policy-wise.
People kept wondering "who is he even gonna know who's a Muslim, they could just lie" or "would they also ban someone like the Mayor of London who's a Muslim", so at some point there will have to be a feasible policy that's more specific than "ban Muslims".
>>79037120
Remember the absolute shit fit they threw over how permanently banning all muslims was a violation of the first amendment because apparently """somewhere""" in the constitution it mandates separation of church and state?
I wonder why they ever stopped crying wolf about that. I thought that was a rock solid counterargument. Are they trying to move the goalposts on us or do they just not even have any goalposts in the first place?
>>79031909
>>79032753
hey whats up ive got opinions on countries politics who are allowed to own butterknives
>>79035803
No, lunatics like /pol/ will not be the reason he would get elected. If Trump is elected it will be despite the lunatics not because of them.
>>79037422
>solid argument
Constitution doesn't apply to non-citizens.
rollan
>>79029810
What is trump going to do when he's president again?
He can't build his wall
Can't kick out illegals
Can't ban muslims
He's going to improve trade deals i guess? That it?
>>79037715
DELETE THIS
>>79029810
That was always the plan though.
Did they lie so much that they thought it became the truth?
>>79037840
Yeah which is more than anyone else who has come into office
besides george "patriot act" Bush
>>79029810
So instead of Muslims, just Muslim countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, and France.
>>79037896
Obama turned back the economy at least, that nigga Bill did a lot too, althought the .net boom did help back then.
>>79031472
rollin'
>>79037576
>he doesn't remember this
>>79038004
>turned back the economy
>Obama
>turned back the economy
>Obama
>>79029810
Who cares not even the candidate, he will shift more about a lot of stuff. You should await the campaign to start.
>>79038126
I guess it just happened on its own huh
>>79031472
Burgerland please
>>79038004
This is the only "recovery" where everyone but the corporations and super rich like Obama are worse off.
>>79038193
The campaign started the moment Cruz dropped out, Trump is just an idiot
>>79034626
>'rebranding'
>the first of many complete U-turns on policies that dumbfuck rednecks adore
He stands for nothing but himself and you people are eating it right up.
>>79035946
>'narrative of flipping'
The media doesnt have to do shit, he flips on everything himself.
>>79037120
Oh this is such horse shit. He had a million opportunities to clarify and he never did. When Sadiq Khan was elected mayor or London he said he'd grant him an exception. Notice, not 'oh well muslims from the UK wouldn't have been banned anyway.'
Trumpcunts moving the goalposts yet again, deciding that anythign anti-Trump is crying wolf.
>>79037546
Good one mate.
>>79037840
This. He's not going to do anything at all. I want him to get elected just to see the rage of his pathetic base as they realise that int heir rage against corruption and inept politicians they were duped by the most inept and corrupt of them all.
>>79038330
You seem like the kind of person who would be salty over the Brexit.
>>79038274
yes, yes, on it's own.
er, no, wait Obama did it! It was Obama!
>>79038330
>He's not going to do anything at all
I reckon so. Which makes me sad as fuck. I want someone who supports some of trumps ideas, just not someone as stupid as trump.
>>79038330
>When Sadiq Khan was elected mayor or London he said he'd grant him an exception
BACKTRACKING. I AM NOW A CRUZMISSILE.
So if he manages to build a wall, using some of Mexico's help but he can't get Mexico to full fund it, are you gonna say he's backtracking because Mexico was supposed to pay for it?
>>79038587
>trump
>stupid
>he says anonymously
I'll take Ivy league university top business school in the world, for 500 please alex
>>79038697
>Mexico
>paying for the wall at all
Do Trumplets really believe this?
Trump will keep going back on what he says until he just says he wont do it.
Like the abortion thing.
>>79031909
"Are you fucking kidding me" is shorter to type out, bong.
>>79031472
'le roll for epic winz
>>79038732
well, i mean on his presidential campaign. He's been utterly blown out on most of his major talking points.
I still like some of the stuff he says, but banning muslims, building a wall and kicking out illegals were the major things he wanted to do and the main reason people support him and he can't do them.
I'd like to see what he could do on trade deals, but those are lesser things. And I don't have a lot of confidence in him generally based on how poor he's been able to defend those other things. Of course he hardly ever gets called up on these things being impossible because libtards are too busy calling him a racist.
>>79031472
roll for whitey
>>79038987
Politicians* will keep going back on what they say until they just say they wont do it
ftfy
>>79039091
stupid ≠demagoguery friend
If anything, you could say he's a liar, which just makes him qualified to run
>>79038987
Mexico makes 53 billion dollars in trade with the US, not to mention they unload all their Juans and drugs into the US and make more money. If they still want that profit they're gonna pay for the fucking wall
>>79031472
poo
>LOOK HE SAID COUNTRIES WITH TERRORISM THIS TIME THAT MEANS HE DOESN'T WANT TO BAN MUSLIMS
the media is going insane over Trump it's impressive to watch
All he did was shift his stance enough to just include terrorist countries. I am still voting for him
>>79039108
He is a politician and hes already done it
>>79039243
Embargos would hurt both the US and Mexico.
And Mexico isnt sending people or cartels to the US, the US population simoly craves drugs and the Cartels will take advantage of that.
>>79039365
Youre Polish desu
>>79031472
Don't really care as long as it's not 3rd world.
>>79029810
>backs out on his muslim ban
>banning all immigration from countries with a history of terrorism
this is even better tbqh, now lefties can't say "HOW DO YOU PLAN ON BANNING A RELIGION?! ASKING THEM?!"
>>79039192
>If anything, you could say he's a liar
I doubt it. If he was lying he would be better prepared for debates I think where he got BTFO. He's been caught out a few times on not knowing important things like middle east politics and the nuclear launch system and shit. But mainly been btfo on the wall and illegals. And now he's unwinding his rhetoric on banning muslims. No matter what you think of trump, this makes him look weak.
To be a good politician you need to be a good liar, but to be a good liar you need to be good at not being caught. Trump hasn't done so well here if he really has just been lying.
>>79031472
Roll, please be glorious France
>>79039528
Hopefully this means Israelis wont be welcomed
>>79038987
THE WALL JUST GOT 10 FEET HIGHER
Walls have been built in Israel, China, and Hungary, deportations have happened in the past, Mexico will have to help eventually, the plans have already been addressed on Trump's site, or their subsidiaries will be cut.
The abortion thing was a completely different thing, he just said one line which offended the pro-life camp, without changing his stance on the whole issue.
>>79031472
rollerino maximum please no nigger tier
>>79031472
oy veh
>>79039938
Nigga changed his stance like 3 times within an hour.
There will be no wall and there will be no repercussions for Mexico.
Its like the only thing you Trumpfags can spout are memes, i dont even know why I still bother talking to you.
>>79040217
>Its like the only thing you Trumpfags can spout are memes, i dont even know why I still bother talking to you.
You haven't backed up anything you said with facts, just vague claims that he won't do it. Are you denying there's a long history of both of these ideas with walls being built in other countries, and deportations already happening on a regular basis, or shit like Operation Wetback?
If you just want to have serious boring conversations and bash Trump all day long with speculation and misinformation, go back to Rebbit nigger. No one is keeping you here or forcing you to talk to anyone.
>>79030167
william shatner up in this thread everybody!
>>79031472
Apparantly my previous post was spam...rolling for independant britain.
>>79040849
fuxk...that couldnt have gone much worse.
Well, ii guess the only option is to never die.
>>79031472
Please be western.
>>79041230
you lucky, independant bastard.
>>79029810
Get over it, Trump supporters don't care what he says, there here for his banter and the meme magic.
>>79031472
Rollin j
>>79041573
You're missing the key ingredient that causes them all to flip their shit 24/7. We actually agree with what he says (mostly).
>>79029810
Please leave Jamal
>>79031472
rella
>>79031472
svp
>>79029810
Guess how many Trump supporters are going to care?
None.
It's aleays been regional. He's only ever talked about banning countries with high instances of terror.
I know this is bait but I wanted to post this.
Wew, that does it. You have convinced me OP I'm now a #Clint
He's still a meme, so he's still got my vote.
Nothing will ever change that.
>>79043128
none.
We don't even care that he has multiple rape charges filed against him by 12 yr old girls.
>>79031472
white country pls
>>79031472
oy vey!
>>79033286
>it doesn't mean he's changing his policy
As if people would have voted for him in his current state
He's a liar, and he just faked his way through the primaries
He's not even done going left
>>79029810
iI support Trump. I'd love to see him win. But he's lost it. He's acting like a duck hit on the head.
>>79031472
rollan.
netherlands pls
>>79031472
Rolling burrito
>>79031472
ylis tier post
>>79040592
>go back to rebbit
>trump is even more popular there
>he actually believes what politicians say
How embarrassing...
If all he said was "ban immigrants from countries known to harbor terrorists and also countries that enact religious based laws which don't integrate with western societies"
Would that have been better?
>>79045543
>he goes to rebbit
>"..."
It's time to go back there, SRS.
>>79031472
abort pls
>>79031472
Rollin'
>>79029810
The news is so desperate, it's hilarious
>Trump: "I want to go further in detail about the ban"
>Media: "OMG BACKPEDALING BACKPEDALING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
I watched NBC this morning. They said "lol 49% of americans are against the ban" ..do they really think people are this fucking stupid? 51% support it. And then they were shilling for Elizabeth Warren. Absolutely disgusting.
>>79031472
gibe
>>79029810
Well that's disappointing. I'd still vote for him if I was American.
>>79031472
Gogo, I wanna be a white American
>>79029810
>I propose a Muslim ban
>"whaaaat racissssit fuck"
>okay to clarify we will ban Muslims from nations with terrorist histories
>"stop saying Muslim you dick"
>fine we will have a temporary ban from places with lots of terrorism
>"lol what a faggot way to back pedal"
This is how you sound
>>79045524
NOT HELSINKI
ANYWHERE BUT HELSINKI
FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>79031472
Hue again!
>>79031472
rool
>>79031472
reroll
>>79045866
>Implying you cancerous roaches don't post pics from that shithole constantly
>implying I'm not forced to be knowledgeable of reddit politics from the Legion of mega cucks spamming threads here
No leaf, it is you who needs to go back
>>79031472
pls not third world
>>79029810
He said he would let them in if vetted well. That's what he said at the beginning. The media makes it sound way more extreme at first, and they they say he "backpedaled" when they are just reporting on what he has basically said all along. Sneaky Jews.
>>79047790
You realize that around half the American electorate will vote for Trump, and that Trump has had support here ever since he announced his candidacy? Go cry about it over there, you fags would've told everyone to go back to rebbit when we had nothing but Ron Paul threads for months in 2012 and some of them also did.
>>79048206
You realize that around half the population will vote for any give candidate in a 2 person/issue race?
Learn how democracy works faggot, getting around 50 without winning makes you shit tier
Even if what you said was true, your shitty appeals to populum are meaningless when every president we've ever had won at least 50% of the vote. Trump is shit and he'll be shit when he wins too
>>79048493
>You realize that around half the population will vote for any give candidate in a 2 person/issue race?
Then why are you butthurt that there are Trump supporters and talking about reddit, you can't pretend it's a niche candidate anymore.
>your shitty appeals to populum are meaningless when every president we've ever had won at least 50% of the vote.
Not when Perot ran as a third-party in the 90s.
>>79049101
I ever did say he was a niche candidate fuckwit
He's just shit and his supporters are cancerous. That's it.
>not when [this exception]
Lol I knew you were going to do that. That's has nothing to do with the point, that a president or candidate being popular has nothing to do with how good they are. Of course the redditor would pull the *ACHTUALLY*
>>79031472
Please no Belarus
>>79050363
Fugg
>>79031472
Lets do it.
>>79031472
roll23
>>79050463
Fucking shit I dont wanna be a gypsy.
>>79031472
Rolando now
>>79031472
roll
ing
>>79031472
something good hopefully
>>79031472
kek pls
>>79052173
>>79052171
>>79051902
>>79052244
>>79050647
Fuck off to /b/ niggers and stop derailing and bumping every shitty thread with le ebin rolls.
>>79031472
>pls god make me black and I'll fix my people
>lol jks gon rape me some white women for free
>>79037120
>>79038330
It is totally within the President's power to ban certain people labled as "hostile aliens" from entering the US. The law is over 200 years old, and has been used multiple times.
Jimmy Carter banned Iranian immigrants back during the Iranian Hostage Crisis.
Obama banned Iraqi immigrants for several months in 2011.
Obviously, it would be logical for Trump to ban Iraqi and Syrian immigrants; possibly Egyptians and Libyans also - because that's where ISIS fucking lives. Duh.
>>79031472
fdswasf
>>79038697
>>79038987
Mexico will pay for the wall through tariffs on Mexican corporations. There's no way they can avoid it.
Also, the wall would cost less than 1% of the US's annual budget. It's not some outlandish feat; you retarded Redditors.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariff
>>79031472
roll roll
>>79030081
>polls about clinton vs trump not being complete lies
lol ok
>>79053240
>>79053518
That feel when leftists don't address my points because they got ass-obliterated.
>>79031909
He can do whatever and Hillary will still corkscrew on her positions 1000% more than him.
>>79031472
lets get it
>>79031472
belarus pls sempai
>>79031472
Coal
This is one of many u-turns he's going to make. He's also not going to build the wall and he's not going to deport Mexicans.
>>79055525
>he's not going to deport Mexicans.
Even fucking Obama does that, you're a moron m8. Trump will just make it a higher priority and put more resources on it, take a stronger approach.
>>79031472
tits
>>79031472
Here I come!
>>79056047
It's a matter of numbers, dummy. How many does Obama deported vs let in? 1 vs 100000? Trump isn't going to make it a priority because the backlash will be very strong.
>>79031472
Norway please
>>79056359
Keep telling yourself that, libtard. It's part of what he ran his entire campaign on, when he wins the backlash to such a basic thing as deporting illegals will be insignificant and irrelevant.
>>79056826
>It's part of what he ran his entire campaign on
And? He's already doing a U-turn on muslim ban. He's going to do a U-turn on Mexicans.
>>79057012
>And? He's already doing a U-turn on muslim ban.
It's not a U-Turn, just a clarification of the policy. "Deporting 11 millions illegal aliens" and putting it as one of the main focus of the campaigns isn't really ambiguous.
>>79057330
>It's not a U-Turn, just a clarification of the policy
Is that what it's called now? ok lel.
>>79030410
Literally this.
I knew from day one when he said a Muslim ban this is what he meant.
You can't ask people if they are Muslim or not because they will lie and Muslims don't carry a "Mark of the Muslim" on their forehead for you to know so it would have to have been a geographical ban.
This is not backpedaling, this is a more specific answer to exactly what he was going to do anyway.
>>79057506
>ban muslim immingration
>b-b-but that's racist!!
>fine, ban immigrants from countries with a History of radical islamic terrorism
>b-b-backpedaler!!
shill harder please. Hillary is paying good money. I would be ashamed to call myself a shill if I put out work of this quality.
I'm not wasting a reaction image on the likes of you.
>>79029810
This was literally the plan. This is the only way you can enforce a Muslim ban is by banning specific Muslim countries.
This is not backpedaling... this is and has always been the actual plan.
>>79031909
You're right there is pretty much nothing he could do to get me to vote for Clinton instead, she is that bad.
>>79029810
It's not backpedalling. He's just fleshing out his Muslim ban to a ban on countries with high terrorist populations so they can't keep calling him a racist.
