Why won't he just release his tax returns? What is he hiding?
>>78938090
Why is that relevant to his campaign? Why can't liberals not go into ad hom for once?
>>78938090
Is this suppose to be a headline? it reads like an immature threat by Keemstar.
>>78938090
>What is he hiding?
Obamas' birth certificate
>>78938090
He's hiding the fact that Hillary is a Trump plant.
>>78938190
2/10 -- only because you got me to reply.
>>78938190
>Why is that relevant to his campaign?
Maybe for the fact that he claims one thing ( being a billionaire ) but facts prove otherwise.
>>78938090
>a news agency asking for confidential documentation from a businessman
let's get retarded, everyone
>>78938090
>Shillary literally commits treason and is literally a felon
>DURR RELEASE YOUR TAX RETURNS DRUMPF BTFO
this is how desperate Dems are
>>78938390
what his financials werent enough?
>>78938834
>hillary literally does nothing other SoS did
>literally doesn't do anything even remotely approaching what patraeus did
>treason!!!!
yall need to find a new sham scandal to yell about regarding the clintons, this one's lost its zest.
>>78938090
>Tax
Stop using Jewish slang
the proper term is theft return
>>78938190
because the guy is trying to hide the fact that he doesn't pay his taxes.
>>78939846
>stealing government information to keep it away from the freedom of information act
>not treason enought for Dems
I suppose less moral and more moral is part of your language too right?
>>78939271
Apparently not?
>>78940143
He's been under an audit every year since around 2008.
If there was anything there then the IRS would have found it by now.
>>78938834
Id wager anything that you have a double-digit IQ, Jethro
Because releasing your tax info isn't a requirement to run for public office
This is some Jew bullshit here
>>78938834
keep gumping dumbass.
the blood will run out of your asshole when this is over and gump is crushed
>Stop ducking, Donald on your taxes because we have proof that you aren't nearly as rich as you claim
>Stop ducking, Donald on your taxes
Is this a real headline?
Someone wrote this, and it was published?
>Modern """""""journalism""""""""
>>78944715
Precisely meme-humper. He is hiding his lack of billions because his entire "brand" is a series of lies and frauds.
>>78944258
>>78945035
this is fucking sad
>>78938090
Because he doesn't get a 1099 like you dipshit.
>>78938090
nothing, he's stated numerous times they'll be released after the audit
>>78938390
Hey fuck-face. He already released all his financials.
He probably doesn't want to release his taxes because he probably pays close to nothing (which he has already admitted to doing anyway).
Probably some tax haven stashed in NY I would guess.
>>78938090
He's been audited for many consecutive years. And that's okay, because it proves the system works. But no tax lawyer would ever recommend releasing your tax information publicly, especially during an audit.
>>78938390
I like how the opposition's narrative has shifted from "but he's another rich old white guy" at the beginning of his campaign to "he's not as rich as he says he is." Which is more condemning in your eyes?
/pol/ btfo
>>78945472
>I like how the opposition's narrative has shifted from "but he's another rich old white guy" at the beginning of his campaign to "he's not as rich as he says he is." Which is more condemning in your eyes?
This is their problem. They have painted themselves in a corner, always contradicting themselves when they see fit.
Shills are gonna shill.
>Obama don't need to show his birth certificate!!!
>LOOK TRUMP WON'T SHOW US HIS TAXES!!! HE MUST BE HIDING SOMETHING
>>78945760
>Obama don't need to show his birth certificate!!!
And yet he showed it anyways. Meanwhile DRUMPF is hiding like the coward he is.
>>78938190
If he has nothing to hide, he has no reason not to release them.
He's pro-NSA so he of all people should appreciate this.
But realistically we all know why he won't release them. He's paid an insanely low effective tax rate by taking innumerable deductions, which is why he gets audited every fucking year. This will demonstrate a few things:
1) he's a tax-cheat who doesn't pay his fair share
2) his businesses are always taking huge losses that he can deduct
3) he's not as rich as he says he is
>>78945760
Except he showed his birth certificate.
Thanks for reminding me that Trump was a leading birther, I often can't keep track of the ways in which he is retarded.
>>78945472
>I like how the opposition's narrative has shifted from "but he's another rich old white guy" at the beginning of his campaign to "he's not as rich as he says he is."
>"people who oppose Trump" is one person
The "narrative"? Different demographics of people oppose him for all kinds of reasons, there's no single "narrative" when he has people in his own party who think he's a fucking moron.
>>78946448
> Different demographics of people oppose him for all kinds of reasons, there's no single "narrative" when he has people in his own party who think he's a fucking moron.
>saying he is dumb, mean, and racist
What a broad general reasoning that is totally not adorable
>>78946448
>>78938090
>>78939846
>>78944258
This shit is getting ridiculous I bet you want to get paid $15 shilling for Hillary
>>78945838
No he didn't, and no he isn't. Retard.
>>78947073
Is there an argument in there somewhere
I'm not even sure what you're trying to say
>>78947270
I argue with morons for free; it's therapeutic.
>>78947290
>Different demographics of people oppose him for all kinds of reasons
>Literally every argument since day one has been those three
And they fucking suck
>>78938090
stop shilling and fuck off
>>78944029
And yet it's been standard practice for decades so Trump looks like a fucking pussy with something to hide for not doing it
Funny how that works
>>78946448
You didn't answer the question. Which is worse to you? Being a rich old white guy or not being as rich as previously thought?
>1) he's a tax-cheat who doesn't pay his fair share
Surely, if he was a tax-cheat, he would have been penalized by the IRS by now.
>2) his businesses are always taking huge losses that he can deduct
Are you really knocking him for doing something legal that literally every other business also does?
>3) he's not as rich as he says he is
Everybody is poorer at the moment thanks to Brexit. You going to start shit talking Larry Ellison next for being worth slightly less than last week?
>>78938090
Only a libtard could be so ironic.
Trump is poor just like you, but to fight against this big system he had to pretend to be rich.
Also he's actually genderqueer black, pretending to be a cis white, for the same reasons.
He's your man lib.
Unless you're saying that because Hillary is wealthier than Trump, she should be president. Arguing that only the richest elites should be president isn't new for liberals though.
>>78938090
>>78947588
Not even worth a real response.
>>78948320
Keep moving those goal posts, bud.
>>78948320
>Is there an argument in there somewhere
(You)
>>78947452
You could probably further reduce those down to just "he's dumb" if you want to be as simple-minded about it as possible.
>>78938090
Well he's said he will after the audit is finished, which is probably what his tax lawyers are advising him to do, but for the sake of argument consider this. There's never been a candidate like Donald Trump, he has a multi-billion dollar company and releasing his tax returns would reveal vulnerabilities his competitor's can and will exploit. Trump obviously cares about the company he's built, and wants to leave it as strong as possible for his children. Hillary and other parasites can release all the tax returns they want because they've never produced anything of significance, their tax returns are meaningless. If Trump releases his tax returns, it would be a tremendous sacrifice on his part and it's important that people realize this since the media sure as shit won't give him the credit he deserves for it.
>>78948644
>Different demographics of people oppose him for all kinds of reasons
>You could probably further reduce those down to just "he's dumb" if you want to be as simple-minded about it as possible.
(You)
>>78948647
> There's never been a candidate like Donald Trump, he has a multi-billion dollar company and releasing his tax returns would reveal vulnerabilities his competitor's can and will exploit.
Funny, he himself has never used this line of reasoning as a defense, but here you are defending him better than he can seem to defend himself.
It's almost like you're just making shit up.
>>78938090
>Why won't Hillary just release her donor list? What is she hiding?
>>78948644
>calling him dumb is simple-minded
Well, at least we agree there.
>>78949034
b-but Hillary--!
>>78940729
Revenge for the birth certificate stuff, probably.
>>78938090
I'd think school records would be more imperative when vetting a president. The left seemed ok with Obama not releasing his. So they have nothing to stand on here. It's useless info according to their own principles. I would also suggest it's useless in vetting a president. So no reason to release. It's just fodder for ad hom.
>>78945838
So many shills here today.
i hope trump loses because of how defensive you faggots get when he is questioned on anything
i cant wait to see how asshurt you autists are when he loses
>>78949220
That's what happens when you tie up your personal identity with a political candidate. You end up owning their failures.
I hope he wins, though. If he loses, there will always be the lingering question of how things would have turned out if he had won. If he wins, then we'll get to witness his idiocy in practice and it will undermine the legitimacy of the alt-right for years to come.
>>78938090
Because it would reveal that he isn't a billionaire and he values his brand on how he "feels".
Praise KEK
>>78948862
>implying trump has to justify himself to a paid shill on a mongolian child raping website
>>78949101
You've completely abandoned any logical arguments at this point, so shit posting is therapeutic for you? What does that say about your own character?
>>78949220
>Trump attacked by leftist media and supporters defend him
"Why are you guys so butthurt? We're just asking questions."
>Trump attacked by media and supporters don't defend him
"What are you guys, some kinda pussies?"
>everyone must obey the law
>rules dont apply to me
>>78949458
Stroking your ego when you can't even own up to your own failure of an argument is also pretty idiotic in practice anon
>>78938090
you clearly don't understand audits
and who gives a shit about how rich he is or his fucking tax returns? wheres hillary's tax returns? never see anyone demand those.
>>78949590
look how youre acting right now
cry harder faggot
>>78949671
Not an argument
>>78949671
Did you eat lunch today? You sound hungry.
>>78949662
Every candidate of the past 30 years have released tax returns, the feds have told Trump he can release his taxes under adult.
Hilldog has released her tax returns every year
>>78949812
>>78949800
ill be hard as a rock when i vote for hillary
>>78939846
she deleted government emails, that is a violation of US code title 18 section 2071 and makes her intelligible for public office.
she also helped to fund al-queda in iraq, the group that later became ISIS and we were de facto at war with. that is literally treason.
>>78938090
What would you learn from his tax returns?
HE
IS
UNDER
A
MULTIYEAR
TAX
AUDIT
COMPLAIN TO THE FUCKING IRS
OR GO READ HIS FEC FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE
>>78949873
Just because he can does not make it a good idea.
>>78949911
Well the two of us cancels you out, so...
>>78949199
>It's just fodder for ad hom.
So is him not releasing the returns.
If there's nothing on there that is damaging to his image then it would be better for him to release.
The fact that he's not allows us to presume that he has motivation to hide, which is almost as bad as just releasing the returns.
>>78949590
>What does that say about your own character?
Wow who gives a flying fuck, I'm no one on the internet. Save it.
>>78949873
You really don't understand why you shouldn't do this during an audit. It's okay because not everyone owns a business but it would be retarded.
>>78938090
probably the fact he has no liquid assets
>>78945435
>Probably some tax haven stashed in NY
>tax haven
>in New York
do shills just get dumber by the week? is CTR cutting its budget or something?
>>78949996
Did the IRS not state that he was free to release his returns despite the audit?
>>78950041
Yup. He is only as rich as he "feels" day to day.
PRAISE KEK
What do people want to see? Do they want to slam him for paying as little taxes as possible?
Literally everyone does that.
>>78938090
>Youre not allowed to be president because you arent rich!!!
amazing
>>78950041
It's this. He's not rich. His companies are.
>>78938090
The majority of his money is in property, and a lot of that isn't even in the united states. Not that technicalities matter to the left.
>>78949199
>useless vetting a president
>please don't vet trump we want our race war
>please don't vet trump we want a global bloodbath
>pol in a nutshell
>>78949573
He doesn't have to do shit if he doesn't want to, and I'm free to assess that he's a fraud if I feel like it. Is there a problem with that?
>>78949199
>>78949199
Obongos school records weren't just "not released", they were sealed for 55 years.
Biggest rumor is that he filed for foreign student aide since he held Kenyan citizenship until he was 25...
>>78949873
>release tax returns under audit
>IRS tears you a new one because one small part of your tax returns is worded poorly
tax returns are finicky things anon, nobody understands them and that means they can be made to look however you want them to look.
even releasing them while you aren't being audited is a stupid as shit idea.
>>78938090
No matter what he does, it will be used against him.
If he isn't as rich as he claims, he's a liar. If he is, he's a greedy fat cat. This is a no-win proposition.
By not releasing them, he retains a measure of reasonable doubt as to either point.
>>78950317
How about you give me one good reason why we need to see his taxes? Why does it matter at all? How much money does one need to pay or not pay to be qualified for the presidency?
If he was breaking the law the IRS would have caught it in one of the nervous audits and punished him for it. It's not your job or the media's.
>>78950686
Numerous*
>>78950384
No, there's no problem. Just know you're not immune to ridicule when you espouse your dumb opinions.
>>78945472
But he's still another rich old white guy if it turns out he's just a multi-millionaire instead of a multi-billionaire...
>>78950041
>>78950161
he has a yearly income of over $300 million dollars
>>78950261
his companies are privately owned. if you don't understand the distinction there, then you shouldn't even be commenting on this.
>>78951065
he can have as large as an income as he wants but that doesn't transfer over to liquid assets
His tax returns are useless.
First off, how does trump make most of his money? Real estate. It's very likely that his tax books, his financials, and his actuals are very different.
For instance, let's say I buy a residential property. The initial value is X. Let's say I'm lucky and I bought a very valuable piece of land in New York City that, in a few years, will become worth a lot more. This new value is Y. This positive change in value is the actual market appreciation.
My financial books may say differently though. In my financials, I could have all sorts of numbers. Cost of renovations, repairs, upkeep, etc. All of these contribute to the market value of the property but they may or may not be 100% in line with the market. (Hence why people can take a shit home, put $20k in it, and suddenly flip it for a massive profit)
In taxation terms though, the property could be depreciating. This depreciation is NOT a valuation. It is a tax concept. So let's say I get my property evaluated and it is worth X. I can then take value X, divide it out over some period of time (max 27.5 years), and deduct a portion of the value from my taxes, lowering my taxes substantially.
So what does this mean for a real estate giant like Trump? It means his taxes in no way reflects the actual value of his properties, nor does it accurately reflect his worth.
On the tax books, his tax rate is really low and he's got all kinds of "expenses" like the depreciation concept coming in making it look as though he doesn't have much.
His financial books show a different story. They show the wealth of right now and the past. How much he paid for his property, how much he spends on repairs and upkeep, etc.
The actuals show a whole other story. They show the real appreciation of his properties. The fact that he could have millions and millions of future earnings available as the properties he holds grow in value.
>>78950384
>I'm free to assess that he's a fraud if I feel like it. Is there a problem with that?
yeah, its slander and libel unless you can prove he's a fraud.
>>78950120
>His lawyers says no
>But the IRS says it okay
>anon thinks that he should take the word of the IRS over his lawyers
>anon doesn't understand why his mother is militantly pro choice
Why won't hillary release the transcripts to her paid speeches for wall Street?
>>78938090 We da joos now
>>78951190
Moreover, Trump is being smart. Why release your tax returns when you're being audited? It would be crazy to release your tax returns for millions of eyes to see. The chance that someone somewhere would find a mistake is high enough that it would be suicide to release his taxes when the IRS is currently searching desperately for something that's wrong.
Would you rather have a 1 person audit you or would you want the whole world to audit you?
>>78938090
>"Donald,..."
>","
congrats on learning sentence structure during your journalism program.
oh, wait.
>>78951174
doesn't mean he isn't as rich as he says he is.
>>78951565
I'm not disagreeing with you. He can still have an insane net worth but it makes his campaign self funding claim look bad when the only way for him to get disposable income is by selling off his companies or shares
>>78938190
Because this means he's lying.
>>78938090
If trump releases his returns and his worth is HIGHER than expected, he'll be called a rich asshole. If they're LOWER than expected, he'll be ridiculed as not really wealthy. There is no benefit to him, the tax return thing is a joke that adds no value to his campaign, it only gives ammo to the people attacking him.
>>78951790
theres these fancy things called loans you know. i hear you can pay them off over time.
>>78938090
That's some serious title gore
>>78951281
>>His lawyers says no
Gee it's almost like his lawyers are on his payroll and he can claim that they told him practically anything that suits his interests.
>>78950819
>wants to appear clever
>doesn't know what "espouse" means
This is more or less why I didn't see you as worth debating seriously.
>>78949946
Yeah, but Drumpf you racist.
>>78952164
>haha I was gonna argue but then you said espouse with a clever retort, hah what now?
So you really cant argue for shit
Why won't he release his long form birth certificate?
What is he hiding?
>>78952164
I used the word appropriately. It's you who don't really believe in the dumb shit you post and think this is all therapeutic. Typing with one hand, let's say?
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>>78952164
GO HOME SHILL
>>78938390
What facts, exactly?
>>78938090
> Has billions in property
> Has hundreds of millions in cash
> Paid shit in taxes because he plays the game
In the end do he is more rich and successful than 99 percent of the world.
What's the end game of shills anyway? You're not going to change the minds of the ones who vote here, go try to shill somewhere else, or are you being monitored and have to present reports on your "work"?
>>78950025
>If there's nothing on there that is damaging to his image then it would be better for him to release.
Unless his tax returns show nothing special and he's only holding on to them because he knows the media will keep bringing it up because they are helpless like that.
Then when he finally makes the documents public they all look fucking stupid for making such a big deal out of nothing.
4 D C H E S S
>>78938090
is he a poor 1%er or a rich 99%er? either way liberal doublethink will win the day!
>>78951493
You don't become immune to the IRIS when not under audit.
If someone finds a mistake or fraud they can report it to the IRIS with or without him being under audit.
Or at least that's what my CPA said when she explained that Trump's a lying sack of shit and the audit does fuck all to make disclosing his returns more or less advantageous to him.
>>78938090
Why doesn't she release her speech transcripts or deleted emails? What is she hiding?
>>78938090
He's baiting the retards into another trap.
They'll try to make this the focal point of their attempted disenfranchisement campaign, and it'll turn out he is more successful than he claims, making everyone who went after him look like retarded children, again.
>>78938090
because you all want him to, and he thinks it's really funny to antagonize the cucks
>>78956592
In the deleted emails?
Probably cuntpics.
Yfw Donald spent billions of dollars on weapons for the happening
>>78938090
Even if it's true it wouldn't be as bad as that criminal witch.
>>78956592
FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING RACISTS LEAVE HER ALONE
FUCK DRUMPF
