https://www.change.org/p/boris-johnson-mp-nigel-farage-must-be-involved-in-the-brexit-negotiations-in-brussels
Get this signed lads. The Conservatives care more about their popularity than our interests. They are clearly forming a fifth column against all us patriotic Britons, and they can't be trusted to ensure our post-Brexit demands are met. We have won the battle, but the war has just begun.
Our next aim should be to get Farage the platform he needs to speak for us. Boris will only go so far. Let's get the representation we deserve, and let's get Nigel the recognition he deserves. Our independent future will not be truly secure until we do.
Sign this petition, share it.
Join UKIP & vote UKIP at the next elections. Do not be deceived into thinking it'd be a wasted vote.
With Labour in turmoil and the Tories divided on the Brexit issue, it's the perfect time for UKIP's ranks to swell.
Bump lads
>>78907179
Bump this is worth supporting it will rattle the elite's even more,
BORIS THE TRAITOR UPDATE: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/27/boris-floats-associate-membership-freedom-movement-maintained/
signed
getting bored with all of this bullshit now
I'll be happy the moment we are officially out of the EU.
bump
you britfags must sign
bump
>>78907179
Farage is a moron who would just galvanise the EU into punishing us harder than neccessary.
We need negotiators and diplomats
Fucking kek. Brits aren't the smartest.
>>78911314
>We need negotiators and diplomats
we have enough of them, what we need is people with balls that will call a spade a spade.
Farage for PM
>>78911564
>Fucking kek. Brits aren't the smartest.
neither are you it appears - low pound equals lots of exports.
>>78907179
>shout to leave bad EU
>win a referendum to leave EU
>have no plan ready to leave EU
>wanting to stay in EU
how can leavers be so retarded and incompetent?
>>78907179
Signed, but they need to fix the syntax and comma splicing of the paragraph there. It's awful to read.
>>78911642
>we need someone who talks in platitudes and who's not as smart as he thinks
Deport Farage/
>>78911564
We are smart, we just don't care
>>78911718
You dumb shit we import far more than we export.
Far more.
>>78911564
>Brits aren't the smartest.
You havent met this brit then,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IlJgep1bag
>>78911564
>economy
>freedom
Choose one, faggot.
And no, you can't choose both because you're American. You're Jewish lapdogs.
>>78907179
>>78911979
you dont become the world 5th largest economy by importing more than you export.
>>78907179
change.org
what is this shit? Why not an official one calling for either Farage for PM or to lead the negotiation.
>>78912059
Jacob Rees-Mogg: My nanny made me the man I am
Jacob Rees-Mogg MP, who took his nanny canvassing with him, writes in defence of a British institution
>>78912176
You become the 5th largest economy of the world by becoming the sole English speaking financial gateway to the EU.
We were the 5th largest economy while in the EU and in the short to mid term that will only fall with people losing jobs along the way.
>>78912214
Yep, one cool dude eh!
>>78912353
>We were the 5th largest economy while in the EU
You probably can't remenber pre 1973 then
UKIP should capitalize on this and form a centrist-nationalist party instead of their current libertarian(?) one.
It's clear to me that immigration is pissing Brits off, yet no one's willing to even talk about it. The moment the leave campaign brought up immigration, the polls went up.
>>78912353
Ah yes, how could we forget the dark ages that preceded EU membership.
I still remember when London was but a small village.
>>78912430
The world changes and you have to react.
Look at the markets, money is flowing out of the country and all the lead financiers and financial institutions are making up contingency plans for leaving London. This country is 70-80% services and when that market starts to decline the whole country starts to decline.
Where in your head do you work out that this gets better for the UK beyond the thought that "no more immugrants."
>>78912521
Being ignorant of the last 40 years of financialisation is simply foolish.
>>78912592
You didn't answer my question
>>78912592
>Where in your head do you work out that this gets better for the UK beyond the thought that "no more immugrants."
You become so communist when you say that dear boy.
>>78911979
Hmm if only there was a way to start exporting things.. maybe by building industry.
Nah, Britain has never done that.
>>78912688
>>78912592
Every day of trading, millions of dollars are made off the backs of panic buyers/sellers like yourself.
What you are doing is exactly that.
You don't see any further ahead than perhaps a year, usually less. You're mentally insane if you think suddenly Ze Germans are going to take over all of finance.
Fritz can't even run the Euro properly, now relax.
>>78912688
Are you autistic?
Just because things are one way RIGHT NOW doesn't mean they can't change.
>>78912944
Yes lets build industry in a country with majority services and a country where it is now harder to borrow money as our credit ratings are being cut.
Lets build industry when government revenue is falling and the return on our money for SME businesses from the EU is now not coming.
Lets build industry when labour will become more expensive and less productive and when we will have to compete with the rest of the world under no protection from our trading bloc.
Lets try and capture China's 75% of global manufacturing and pay UK people Chinese wages.
Its easy to talk but really inpractical.
Who wants to invest in industry in the UK when there is no profit to be had?
(or do you blame immigrants for charging too much for their labour which increses profits instead of UK labour taking higher wages and cutting profits making industry less worthwhile)
>>78912059
>That intro in the vid
uh--eh0uh-ummm
>That fade away banter at the end
>>78907179
>shilling a change.org petition
>thinking it will change anything
>>78912987
Stop being stupid.
Nobody is saying ALL of finance or ALL of trade stops.
If we lose 1% of our output that is still £12billion being lost and £12billion worth of jobs being lost. If we lose 10% of our output that is £120billion being lost and all the jobs that helped produce. A small negative shift in the long run will lead to job losses.
If you want to look in the long then sure look in the long run but we will be trading at a lower and weaker position.
Investors drive markets and 95% of investment or money flowing in and out of a country is typically hot money from these investors.
Investment is a critical part of the growth of a country and one which you are sweeping aside carelessly.
>>78911919
and you have the cheek to call others traitors
>>78912708
so we went from basket case to number 5 and the EU is shit?
>>78912944
You need cash to build factories which you no longer have, my god you are dumb. Say bye bye to international investment, no more murican money
>>78913173
Again, your autism is shining through - just because something is one way right now does not mean it must always be that way.
>protection from our trading bloc
Exactly the thing that causes stagnant and ineffective industry.
>blame immigrants
Le everyone who disagrees with me blames le immigrants le racist nazi. You've just outed yourself as both a retard and an autist. Congrats.
>>78913173
>UK
>Unable to secure finance
My god you really don't know shit from clay, do you?
If the British Government can't find a guy to lend a buck in London then we're living in bizzaro world.
>Industry non-competitive
With the pound at this level?
>"blaming immigrants"
You really need to pry from your mind the idea that everybody who doesn't agree with you is this mean closeted racist and you can easily beat their arguments with that stick, especially since that stick got shoved up your arse and broken off in the referendum.
>>78913362
>If you want to look in the long then sure look in the long run but we will be trading at a lower and weaker position
>"we"
Lol, there's no "we" here mate.
Other nations are already offering trade deals with the UK, because of shitty trading rules like a veto power from nations not even involved in the original deal.
Now would be a great time to buy a Bentley, actually.
>>78913458
>what does low interest rates mean
>>78913499
I suppose sarcasm is lost in words.
Being part of a trading bloc is why our economy is so strong. If you have gathered anything the best situation for Brexiters is to leave the political union but to still be part of the economic union.
But I guess you have not gathered anything of the strategy you voted for.
>>78913549
>i don't understand basic economics.
there's a reason jews and idiots voted for brexit
>>78913458
Go to bed Sweden, we got this.
>>78913617
>jews don't understand money
Hey Israeli flags, get a load of this guy.
>>78913576
>still be part of the economic union
Not really. The massive government intervention in the "economic union" is what caused all it's problems.
The "economic union" is falling apart and probably won't even exist in 10/20 years.
I'm guessing this is impossible in your autism world because the EU currently exists therefore it has always and will always exist.
>>78911979
yea the only thing you import is tea
>>78913617
Well why not correct me then :^)
>>78913737
>being thick as fuck
Jews understand alright, thanks to the idiots we'll all be paying higher interest after we get downgraded.
>>78913549
The interest rates will go up for UK you moron, moneylenders hate insecurity and investing in UK at this point is something only a fool would do.
>>78913535
>Harder to secure finance
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36626201
>Industry less non-competitive
http://www.theguardian.com/small-business-network/2016/jun/07/brexit-make-uk-businesses-less-competitive
>Immigrants majority reason for Brexit
https://www.cer.org.uk/sites/default/files/bulletin_105_st_article1.pdf
If you have not been involved in the political debate the number 1 trending keyword for Brexiters was "Immigration" and the number 1 trending keyword for Remainers was "Economy."
The leaflets posted by Brexit focused on immigration and Remain on economy. That is how the two camps set up.
Nigel Farage thinks immigration will win Brexit vote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4Wmn2TKZ1Q
>>78913535
Bentley is owned by VW?
>>78913791
why don't you educate yourself instead of thinking someone on 4chan isn't gonna feed you shite like the lazy gullible twat you are
>>78907179
>change.org
you retarded lad?
>>78913862
>>78913936
>doesn't know the difference between market and non-market interest rates
wewlad
>>78914129
>thinks BoE rates mean anything
>doesn't know about bonds and gilts
top wew
>>78913901
They're AA1 grade, which means they're still investment grade.
If you got your news from different sources and knew something about investing (clearly you don't, as you don't realize there are other credit agencies) you wouldn't post this nonsense.
The British government pays it's debts, view on the scale of what the ratings are and you will see this is a statement of reality.
>Guardian article
"Would Brexit make UK businesses less competitive?"
Betteridge's law of newspaper headlines states Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."
Basically, The Guardian as heavily opinionated as it is wouldn't ask that as a question if they knew the answer, they don't know, so they make it a question.
You know how you accuse people of things with "I'm just asking questions!"?
>If you have not been involved in the political debate the number 1 trending keyword for Brexiters was "Immigration" and the number 1 trending keyword for Remainers was "Economy."
Do you also believe Jon Oliver when he said the day after people were googling "what is the EU" and shit like that and assumed it was Brexiters instead of perhaps.....those who hadn't voted Brexit?
>Immigrants
Many votes came from old working class communities, who were feeling priced out and alienated in their own communities. Pretty easy concept if you can empathize.
>Bentley is owned by VW?
And they manufacture in Crewe, which is in the UK.
Stick to the Antifa and Green rallies.
>>78907179
signed
>>78914935
The grade has been lowered and if you have picked up anything in our whole debate its not about somthing stopping or starting that is damaging or possible its when things become less or more...when they change; that is where jobs are lost at certain degrees or investment leaves the country.
>Guardian article by several industry experts
Michael Gove Brexiteer: "We have had enough of experts."
That article had several opinions from different groups.
>Jon Oliver
No I dont believe that but I stand by the fact that Brexiters voted in the belief that immigration would be reversed which you denied above.
>>78914935
Remain best for car industry in UK
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/brexit-77-uk-motor-industry-wants-britain-remain-eu
Care to share some of your own links and evidence from experts proving the benefits of Brexit?
>>78914529
>thinks there's only one way to get a loan
:^)
>>78915362
>experts
I don't know about you but I wouldn't call people who have been consistently wrong in everything they've predicted """experts"""
>I stand by the fact that Brexiters voted in the belief that immigration
>I'm a clairvoyant
>>78914935
What is your opinion on the FTSE 250 made up of UK companies (FTSE 100 being more international) dropping 6% so far today and continuing to fall?
This is investment directly leaving UK companies.
While you may say this is panic selling and just investors being scared it is money leaving UK companies.
How will those companies grow and pay wages this year?
>>78915571
>Consistently wrong
>Remain: Economy will suffer
>Brexit: Immigrants will be kicked out
After vote
>Economy in freefall
>Immigrants not going anywhere
Look at the market and see how right the experts were.
>>78915414
>thinks HMG deliberately overpays for it's borrowing and should just use confused.com
>>78915362
>but I stand by the fact that Brexiters voted in the belief that immigration would be reversed which you denied above.
And I stand beside the smug satisfaction from seeing this "fact" slapped into your head thinking it's an argument.
It's not, you lost the biggest vote in modern British history over this.
You were just telling me that other non-UK groups own many of these companies (that's true). So we're not really seeing the British opinion, more the "companies that want a lower euro" opinion.
>>78915674
>What is your opinion on the FTSE 250 made up of UK companies (FTSE 100 being more international) dropping 6% so far today and continuing to fall?
A shock of this size creates a large market scare, a drop like this makes buying such companies easier that's for sure. It might even allow some smaller startups an easier time as competition bites the bullet.
>How will those companies grow and pay wages this year?
Dead ones wont (or they'll take out loans if their history is good), existing ones can rely on savings.
You can't articulate your core opinion, I shall do this for you.
Your main interest is in the short term, next week, next month, next year. Perhaps you have a smaller portfolio and you want more money fast, that is fine.
My main interest is 10 years from now.
Our views on this are entirely different and can't be reconciled, you want money next month, me and my guys can see it much further down the line (aside from those betting on a Brexit, who are still seeing the cash roll in).
>>78915785
>Economy in freefall
:^)
>Brexit: Immigrants will be kicked out
>implying anyone said this
>>78915954
>I don't know how anything works
>>78907179
How does Jonathan Freedland explain this?
>>78916750
It involves two fingers, his ears and "la la la".
Also a double shot of whiskey and a revolver.
>>78916363
>Dead ones wont
Ok mass unemployment is great for the next 10 years.
We can all wait happily unemployed for the next 10 years not doing anything until all of a sudden our country is great again.
Peace bruh.
>>78917218
>Ok mass unemployment is great for the next 10 years.
You're going to look very silly in a couple of months time.
>>78907179
>Vote to get away from an unelected, undemocratic, unaccountable body
>Want to subvert democracy to get an unelected, unaccountable man involved in the brexit negotiations
Lol. You brexiters are something else.
>>78917443
He's an MEP m8.
>>78917218
>Ok mass unemployment is great for the next 10 years.
Then stop letting in so many people who are completely unskilled, are barely literate in their own language and hate your country. There's enough of them in the UK already.
Insults aside, start a business or something. You any good with IT? Try that.
Ok, good luck and take care.
>>78911883
Dirty unbritish scotc u c k detected.
Deport you, the Nige is King Arthur reincarnated and you can suck a dick.
>>78917586
We voted to leave, remember?
>>78917944
Yes, but we haven't left yet. We haven;t even initiated article 50.
He's still an MEP, and will be for some time yet.
>>78918165
So you want to use the body you voted to leave to subvert democracy. Interesting.
>>78918623
How exactly is asking that someone be included in negotiations "subverting democracy" m8?
>>78918802
Well he's not been elected to Parliament, using some petition to try an pressure them into including him is subverting the democratic process. Its literally the same tactic as sjw use when publicly shaming someone on Twitter or something.
>>78919179
You're a mong.
By your logic ANY AND ALL petitions "subvert democracy".
>>78919408
Sweet argument you got there bro.
>By your logic ANY AND ALL petitions "subvert democracy".
Sure, if they want to undermine the clear will of the people.
>>78921370
>getting a load of people to sign a petition and then handing it to the government for consideration is "undermining the will of the people".
What was just decided on is that we leave the EU. Nothing else was asked.
