And how fucked are we when it happens?
Are we talking "occupation times-eating cats dogs and kids" fucked?
Within the next 5 years probably. And we're talking majorly fucked. Like eating dirt and shit..get ready
>>78812355
>Are we talking "occupation times-eating cats dogs and kids" fucked?
Sounds about right.
>>78812355
>Are we talking "occupation times-eating cats dogs and kids" fucked?
things are going to get worst for you, not better, you worthless lazy scum.
>>78812355
We become Venezuela. With the small difference that we don't have the amount of oil they do.
Basically, country reverts to 1949.
pay denbts
>>78812355
>GREXIT WHEN??
As soon as possible. Do it next week, Greeks. Do it!
>>78814080
Are you planning to keep the union together to enslave Europe, or letting it collapse so you can march your "military" into the collapsed economies?
remove kraut
>>78812355
According to our constitution, decisions regarding sovereignty can ONLY be made by a simple majority in parliament.
Even if we had a referendum on an issue of sovereignty (EU membership) it would most certainly be declared unconstitutional by the the Supreme Courts. And even if it were carried out, the result of that would be irrelevant if there is no "Grexit Majority" to push it though parliament.
We need 151 MPs to vote for Grexit for it to ever be a thing. Even if we account for the meme Communist party, the MPs in favor of leaving the EU in parliament right now are:
Based Golden dawn (18) + KKE (14) + Maybe 4 independents. Which is 36 in total, not even a quarter of the way there, and likely to fall on the next elections.
So no. Unless the EU becomes really inventive and rewrites the treaties to kicks us out, and the Greek government doesn't veto that, we are going to stay cucked.
>>78814596
we literally have no options left
>leave EU and die
>or stay cucked until EU dies and then die
>or stay cucked until EU has no use for you any more and kicks you out to die
>>78814596
you forgot ND, who Im sure would all support Grexit. Mitsotakis seems fairly based
>>78815336
But at least when we voted in our referendum last year, people weren't being shot, and Greece wasn't split in half, and the people who lost the referendum didn't immediately shill to death and started signing petitions for reruns and bs like that.
You can at least take pride in that much.
>>78812355
not as fucked as most people think, you, me and all the other avnanes here all have some miserable plot of land with olives or grapes, so if all goes to shit we will just go full olive-nigger
, eating your kid is some serious niggatry that has never been observed in Greece even during the german occupation. However chances are, with the cucks that govern us, that we are still staying in the eu even if germany resides to leave.
>>78816262
this
oh and PASOK too
>>78816262
Kys Stathis.
>>78812355
GER/FRA won't allow it.
>>78812355
Greece is cucked.
Literally BDSM cucked. You are chained to merkel's throne. You will never leave unless you fight for it.
>>78812355
Depends on whether or not we keep voting leftist cucks who barely have high school diplomas as our government.
>>78812355
>eating cats dogs
time to learn korean
anybody got some online cookbooks to suggest?
youre gonna go back to lounging around in faggy robes bathed in olive oil talking about entering and exiting eachother "caves"
>>78817780
say that to my face
>>78817188
PASOK are literally traitors. Id like to see them hang for the 40 years of decline they brought us
>>78817274
So who would you rather vote for? Leventis seems based but haa sno chance of winning, Syriza is, well...Syriza, and GD are a bunch of self hating Turks
I'm really fucking sorry for you greeks.
I used to make fun of you and that you had to pay denbts.
But it took me a while to realize how fucking awful the EU has been to you, how much it fucked every aspect of the greek economy.
I'm sorry.
>>78817437
No, with Brexit, there is hope, we just need a govenrment that will fight for it. We need a nationalist
>>78817188
How is PASOK supporting Grexit?
Also we are beyond fucked already. Only WWIII can save us
>>78818054
Not your fault Hans,it's just banter in the end. We are all in this together,
>>78817994
we're not talking about elections here, but I guess its kind of hard to go out of shill mode once you start
you literally stated ND would support grexit
>>78818174
how is ND?
>>78812355
Next because Greeks are cowards until English and Welsh men.
>>78818314
>"Hans"
>>78818359
Mitsotakis hates SYRIZA and Merkel, thus hating all of the EU aswell
>>78818388
are you some kind of Paki filth? i Can't understand just what the fuck you're saying
>>78818624
>Mitsotakis hates SYRIZA and Merkel, thus hating all of the EU aswell
m8................
>>78818624
Golden Dawn you pleb. Now lurk more alvane
>>78818847
still, better voting for him than SYRIZA or any other EU loving party again.
>>78814411
Germany doesn't have a military you idiot
>>78819126
>ND is anti EU
I really hope youre trolling
Get out pf the eu and make a trade union with the UK amd russia.
>>78818847
Maybe because Fofi expressed how sad she was that Britannia left the EU,while Mitsotakis seemed ok with it?
>>78812355
I thought Greece needed the EU because your economy is shit. Didn't Germany have to bail you guys out?
Not trying to be a dick, I just don't follow greece that closely.
>>78818970
>voting for half-Turk swarthy mongrels
They arent like AFD, who actually have REAL politicians. GD is a made up of thugs with primary school degrees and actual criminals
They just claim to be nationalistsic to get the Soldier and Cop vote
>>78819344
fuck me we're hopeless arent we?
we could survive as a country for the next 500 years and we would still be voting between ND and syriza (the new pasok)
>>78812355
Greece is the only country I'd recommend staying in the EU. Leeching off other nations is the only way to stave off the complete collapse of your country.
>>78819458
Our economy got fucked because of the EU,mate.
Not that it was great or anything,but it wasn't like what it is now.
Look man this country was in debt the moment we got our Independence from the Ottomans,now they trying to bail us out by giving us more loans that we could possibly ever pay back, we are nothing but a colony of Germany/Brussels.
>>78819458
Better to stand on your own 2 feet than have to rely on Hand-outs. The EU is a way for Germany to shrink industry of smaller countries and expand their own. Also, without EU, we won't have strict austerity and capital controls
>>78819271
they are, faggot
The left bloc here will call for a referendum if we get more sanctions.
We're fucked.
If we leave we become a socialist/communist dictatorship. Not even joking.
>>78819265
We have, that's why there's an union
>>78819681
please tell me those aren't greeks
>>78819787
yeah and pasok are anarchists
protip: if you have a gf, she's definitely cheating on you
>>78819891
They seem like fucking Neo-greeks to me famalama
>>78812355
Probably not EU, but definitely a way to leave euro is urgent.
Maybe if the Italians pass a referendum to return to the Lira. Or Denmark and the Netherlands decide to leave the EU.
>>78819784
>>78819787
Sounds like you should grexit.
Fuck the EU anyway especially if they let the turks in.
Eurabia will be more than a meme if Turkey joins.
>>78818314
>>78818054
What exactly did the EU do though?
I mean the amount of government officials (I think 900.000 of 11 million), the corruption and the amount of denbts wasn't the EUs fault obviously.
>>78819784
>Our economy got fucked because of the EU,mate.
Greece lied its way into the Euro, and specifically hired (((Goldman Sachs))) to do it.
Get fucked.
>>78819891
Yup, taken from the Athens food riots a few years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExNkBgFQ1Fc
>>78820741
And the EU knew that and they lied as well in order to let us join. At least we didn't go to war wearing bathrobes, shit for brains.
>>78820468
>buy something with 100 drachmas
>get into EU, same thing suddenly costs 1 euro
>1euro=340 drachmas
>no increase in salaries or anything
>just a huge rise in prices on everything
>"h-haha silly goyim...dont worry about that...just take theze LOANS theyre good for you we promise"
>>78812355
The sooner the better. One of the infected limbs amputed itself already. Time for the next one!
>>78819265
We do. But unfortunaly it's only a shadow of our cold war forces.
Until 5 years ago we used to have conscription. Not anymore :(
@ Greeks
I really hope your country will heal itself.
The next years will be fucking hard.
>>78821430
But thats not something anyone did, thats simply the product of having a common currency without a unified economic policy.
>>78821827
oh ok, sorry m8
no one did that, it just happened
we just happened to get fucked by the union, the union didnt have nothing to do with it
>>78822083
I'm not saying that you are not right,but his point is that we fucked ourselves big time and he is right,don't even try to deny it.
>>78822896
Im not saying we dindunuffin the people should've been against that shit, it was pretty fucking evident what was gonna happen
that doesnt alleviate responsibility off the kikes who took advantage of us though unless this whole union is only a "union" in name only but is actually based on predatory financial tactics
>>78822083
>>78822896
The whole Euro was just a bad idea altogether.
>>78823300
>>78823313
Agreed. Wish I had more time to talk with you folks but I got to go. Have a good one.
No shitposting, but, when Greek is the supposed largest draw on the EU and they are wildly in debt and they are incredibly dependent on the EU for gibs..............why would they want to leave?
>>78823313
In the hindsight yes.
Northern Europe needs a hard currency, but for Southern Europe a currency that can't be devalued to help exports is a suicide.
>>78823790
Austerity plans
looks like a lot of self-entitled Greeks forgot that the politicians kept getting there bonuses no matter what... guess was EUs fault
>>78823790
Good point. The longer they stay in the sooner the EU collapses.
>>78823790
sovereignty, default to get rid of debts, being able to devalue your own currency etc...
but that can happen in countries which arent total shitholes dependent on gibs, which we are 100% at this point
we should've gone out of the EU in 2009 and then default and start building this shit from scratch
the way things are now, youre mostly right
>>78823790
Because my burger friend, the "gibs" go to foreign banks, it's not that the average Greek sees a penny of it.
We are in a zombie state of quasi bankruptcy, we may as well go full bankrupt.
Greece needs a devalued currency to help boost its economy.
>>78824426
>Because my burger friend, the "gibs" go to foreign banks, it's not that the average Greek sees a penny of it.
well that's how it works. Greek banks go bust, the bailouts go to the foreign banks propping them up, greek banks recover, can loan to Greek people again
what is the alterinative - bailout anwitches from planes?
>>78824694
>greek banks recover
>6 years later still getting bailouts
how many decades do you think its gonna take for them to "recover"?
protip: they wont
>>78825015
how quickly do you think it would take for you to recover from the worst economic crash in 100 years?
>>78824694
Go default.
Iceland had the chance to do it early and they are recovering.
Unfortunately we delayed too much the inevitable, and probably the damage will be far worse.
>>78815336
Don't forget paying your debts
>>78825227
if you call being 1 trillion in debt after banks "recovered" a recovery...then I dunno what to tell you m8
>>78812355
The fact that you lot haven't done it already just shows how weak you are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNpDVPH4Q5k
Perhaps wait a little bit and see how we get on chap.
>>78812355
The EU doesn't want you to leave. The worst case scenario for them for always a member leaving, especially if that member saw success alone. If greece leaves it might suck for a while but it sucks now, so why give your freedom to bureaucrats? So you can go to germany without a visa? So bankrupt banks can stay afloat and hold the country hostage? So your young women are $2 whores? Fuck that shit. With a good exit plan greece would recover in under 2 years.
>>78825461
I can't disagree with this.
We needed strong willed politicians to take the hard decisions at the beginning of the crisis and get us out of the eurozone.
But then again we are the ones voting the scum we have, so we deserve being in the shit.
>>78824426
Does your current state affect the daily lives of people over there? What about the migrants, do they have an impact on the average Greek person?
>>78826203
Yeah, only 3 more years now and you will have had a decade of crisis. If you had left you'd be doing the right thing from the start.
It's still your best choice imo.
Better late than never
>>78812355
The living will envy the dead and even North Koreans will laugh at the state of your economy.
>>78827042
We aren't like Venezuela with people eating from the garbage cans, but there has been a serious depression with the average Greek losing much of their income and unemployment is rising.
The worst thing is that the best elements of the society, the ones with degrees and will to work have started migrating, so there's a serious loss of human capital, probably irreversible.
As for the "refugees" they don't stay in Greece, they move along.
After the fences in the Balkan countries they almost stopped arriving,and they travel through Italy.
We have about 50,000 of them still left in refugee camps, but my guess it's they will leave first chance they get, because we keep them in shitty conditions.
>>78813797
More like 929 BC. The cash needed to maintain infrastructure will disappear and public works will be a distant memory. No money for fuel to run electricity plants means no energy for lights etc.
Your looking at a wholesale selloff of your public asets such as land and buildings to whoever can come up with the shekels.
You will probably become a theme park for Chinese tourists and be forced to watch them strip your nation of all cultural artifacts and pride.
>>78812355
>And how fucked are we when it happens?
>Are we talking "occupation times-eating cats dogs and kids" fucked?
Russia declared bankruptcy in the 90s and survived it. You could do the same and threaten to pivot to Russia if anyone gives you trouble. They hate the Turk and want a warm water port, after all, and tourism would spike.
>>78812355
When you guys exit I'll make sure to buy a bunch of Neat Greek stuff to support you guys.
>>78812355
>Grexit happens
>Greece starts printing Drachma's like crazy
>Hyperinflation happens
It would be one hell of a happening but you poor Greeks would be eating mud pies like Haitans.
