I was trying to ask a guy in another thread and it gets closed. If you're in your 20s and have nothing going for you, what is the main cause?
I'm trying to help men here cause not long ago i had similar problems. The modern era is against men who fall down but i can help
Nobody?
>>78723662
Zak Bagans is amazing
My own fear a failure.
>>78724835
I agree he's a super cool dude
>>78724979
What's your situation? You gotta hurry up and fail then and get it over with. Everyone fails, thats why they're successful. If you think you can be differe nt and better maybe you're a perfectionist. Either way the cure is self compassion and getting out there and doing stuff.
>>78724990
lead investigator of the ghost adventure crew, damn I miss the first seasons
>>78723662
I love nothing, and I have zero motivation. Seems edgy, but it's true. I just don't feel love, I don't think. I'm not sure what it feels like. What does it feel like to love family or someone else?
>>78723662
The fear of things going wrong
>>78725477
Are you watching porn and are you addicted?
Did you not have love ever in life?
>>78725518
Let things go wrong and find it's not the end of the world
>>78725477
>>78723662
Ditto. All I want is to have enough food to eat, enough shelter to sleep, enough clothes to keep comfortable, and time to be able to read, think, and play music. I definitely don't need to be a wageslave to meet those goals.
>>78723662
The top to bottom corruption of the government.
Remove that, then I'll be productive.
Until then, not supporting zog in any way shape or form and will work day and night to dismantle it.
i'm 23 and i finally feel like i've figured things out
never thought i'd feel okay but i do, better than ever in fact
i strongly advise the neets of the thread to follow themselves and not what external sources tell them they should do
>>78725898
>>78726026
If you're not mentally dysfunctional then suit yourself. But you'll probably change your mind later. Be flexible and open minded
>>78723662
>Wants holding you back
Myself.
I'm schizophrenic. The delusions are there when I'm at peace but little bit of stress just makes me feel bad.
I really wish I could get get a job and learn a few trades but niggas would break my balls knowing that I am emotionally fragile
>>78725719
No, I have very little sex drive. I do it out of habit and to clean myself of any lust every couple of days.
No. I didn't. I did not have a happy childhood.
>>78725898
Partially this, but I have no desire for any of that. I don't desire to live, but I don't desire to die, either.
>>78726201
You should certainly follow your own path and don't occupy yourself with the crowd, that makes people crazy. They don't love themselves
>>78723662
I have to go through 42 woman who feel the need to be my surrogate mummy to get a simple job like street sweeping. I refuse.
12 years a NEET
>and have nothing going for you, what is the main cause?
I just dont have the drive to do anything. Nothing really gets me going. Like I dont get fired up and strive to make a living out of whatever. I just stick to living quietly in my apartment, lifting weights, cooking for myself, playing videogames and fapping.
>>78726361
Most of history's greatest figures had inherited dysfunctions. It is the struggle to fit in that pushed them to be beyond normal and excel. Get faith in yourself by applying yourself
>>78723662
I'm paralyzed by indecisiveness, and overwhelmed by fear of failure. I get pulled in millions of different directions but end up hardly producing anything, because I dabble in too many things and never settle on just one thing to achieve.
t. starving software developer.
>>78726389
My advice : cease porn. You can fap but no porn. Learn self compassion look it up. Go to social events and get friends, do your web browsing in a coffee shop
>>78726474
>and fapping
That's your problem
>>78726907
It's not like I care for porn... I'm not addicted by it, or even really turned on by it.
>>78723662
He has bailey jay's face.
>>78726703
Read my previous posts re:failure
Take a break from the internet and enjoy nature. You have ADD from technology. Write your thoughts on paper and make deliberations and some accountability chart or system that tracks your progress. Start a journal so your days aren't aimless
I used to have reasons but I became apathetic and stopped caring now it's beyond me to care enough to fix it.
Can't even remember now.
>>78727065
How old are you? Have friends?
>>78727376
How old? Don't get apathetic dude trust me. You're going down a bad path. You need to find meaning in life
>>78727451
21
None
Never have had any
>>78726226
Haven't changed my mind on the matter in 30 years.
>>78727762
a-are you me?
22 Same situation.
Do you also have loneliness induced manic episodes and having conversations with yourself?
>>78727762
I was still mostly friendless at that age. So young yet. In college? If not pursue something, anything. You need to get out there in peoples paths and realize you won't make it long term alone
Too introspective. Too introverted. I've spent the last two years inside my laptop investing in knowledge no one will ever care about. No point in anyone wasting their time with me. No point in me wasting my time with normies. I'm looking for a job as I type but Im 22 and no real job experience. Its tough
>>78727772
There's time to change but you probably see yourself too old too which is also the reason you got to this point. Got to forgive yourself of your circumstances and realize everyone struggles
>>78723662
You want to know the truth?
I deserve to wallow in my misery. I am complete and total shit, I fucking hate myself and would rather die than be confident.
That's what's holding me back, and now, I'm too far gone to have a normal life. So I browse the internet until my eyes hurt. Every single day.
>>78728089
At least you're applying yourself. Go to social atmospheres and realize the net is killing your health by being a junk food social replacement
2 laz
>>78728328
Funny, you're so deluded.
This is my last warning to you, it is not I, nor will it ever be I who has to change.
And there's nothing I have to forgive myself for.
Time is running out for you, if you don't repent then so be it.
>>78724835
>>78724990
>>78725373
I miss them too. His ego got way too big.
I read an article about how he often gets dragged out of his bed while sleeping and how he built a special room in his house that has holy water and blessed items around it so he can sleep without getting disturbed.
If you look at the 3 of them when they first started off and look at them now you can see that something really bad has been going on with them. I am glad they endanger their lives for our entertainment but part of me hopes they stay safe. You can only pull the tigers tail for so long before something really bad happens.
I bet those 3 guys have the worst nightmares.
>>78723662
There ain't nothing I can do. I have no skills or experience (no matter where I apply too). I'm not going to college either, complete scam.
>mfw I keep hearing the "You gotta start somewhere"-meme
What do you think I've been doing, shit.
>>78723662
I live in a small town with little prospect of finances or quality women.
Between weed, video games and masturbation I'm almost completely disinterested real relationships.
Although I am fairly young(22) healthy, decently attractive and confident. I simply have no interest in the world or people.
I know I can turn it around at any moment but I'm just enjoying myself right now.
Autism and being unattractive. You can be one and still make it, but if you're both of those things at once it's pretty close to a death sentence. For men, that is.
I'm also just not a nice person in general. I plan on doing the bare minimum it takes to get by, then eventually move somewhere isolated from society and scrape by on a subsistence level.
>>78727996
I walk around for hours, pacing, imagining I had friends, conversations out loud and in my head. Sometimes fantasy, sometimes reality.
>>78728085
I was bullied every day, and my parents didn't really care much. Everything I have tried and wanted, people have shat on.
>>78723662
I'm 27 with very very minimal work experience and no qualifications and big gaps in my cv due to anxiety. Get very nervous ibs in job interviews. cant get any jobs
Mental and physical health problems. Hard time working because I have bad feet that cause enormous pain when standing for long hours, also have severe depression from repeatedly being fired and rejected in life.
>>78723662
Dropped out of HS, biggest mistake of my life.
>>78729007
Please be in Skegness.
>>78723662
My parents have been telling since I finished high school that they were probably moving in about six months. I have since dropped out of college and been home for about two years, yet I am constantly told to put all of my plans on hold because they will be moving soon. Originally that meant I would need to move out, but for some ungodly reason this has more recently turned into me coming with them.
I have no fear of failure, in fact I expect it. I just don't know what to do. I am constantly derided for my lack of income and education, but when I ask for help or advice on getting my shit together I am told to fuck off because they are moving. It was one thing when they said they were kicking me out, but now I'm actively disincentivized because they tell me they're looking for a place I can stay and pay rent, and thus I have to put any plans on hold so I can move with them "in a few months."
I have always had a bad relationship with these people and they struggle with basic communication and planning. I am a penny-pinching asshole with many great passions, but since I have no money to work with and "only a few months" I can't even invest in a hobby or develop a skill. I want to start a business and I have a rough plan with a low cost, and even though I'm not really chained down by my parents I am constantly demotivated and they toy with my emotions for no reason.
Any time I think about getting a job (which is often) I am caught up by time constraints, my qualifications, and the cost of moving out. I have been accused of having anxiety problems because I "think too much about it," but those same accusers don't realize they will sit for hours and second-guess everything I say or do just to get a rise out of me. They then tell me I should not even consider possibly the most important decisions of my life because it's just "details."
I am a wreck. Everything is awful.
>>78728483
You take this emotional reaction too personal and think just you feels it when most people do at some point, i did.
You judge yourself from a standard society imposes bypassing your own appraisal. You need to have SELF COMPASSION. Look up Kristin Neff. Do metta meditations. Stop taking failure so seriously and personally.
Ps. Writing this on mobile and pressed back after i wrote this so i had to write this all over again. If a stranger on the net's willing to write advice for you twice ya need to get the idea you're worthless out of your head
>>78729007
Stop caring about other people, double-o seven.
>>78728854
Well tell me what have you been doing? Not bein judgemental
>>78723662
after making it to 30 and losing my job because it got relocated overseas. unemployed 6 months. almost out of money to live off of
in the long hours of boredom in between worthless interviews for jobs i don't want, i decided that there's no carrot at the end of the stick any more. if there ever was one
>>78728882
I'm sure you're content now but someday you'll look back with serious regret and sorrow at the time you wasted. It's not those things are bad, it's that you use them instead of relationships. Which are crucial
>>78723662
>I was trying to ask a guy in another thread and it gets closed. If you're in your 20s and have nothing going for you, what is the main cause?
Being a 29 year old virgin. Its demoralizing. I really believe that never getting to have sex was a major part of the reason why I have so little motivation to succeed and have done poorly during college and have basically been unemployed ever since graduating. I'm technically not a full NEET since I do make around $5000 a year by selling crap online.
I also believe that another part of the reason why I'm a semi-NEET is because companies REFUSE to train people for jobs. Constantly being told "you must have experience to work for me. Fuck off, I'm not going to train you." Is demoralizing.
>>78723662
Not a neet but an underachiever.
My problem is that I'm not interested in doing anything that would help the shitty state of the world.
It's difficult to want to be a part of the problems ruining humanity.
>>78728911
Tell that to Isaac Newton. There's always hope. He was an autistic virgin
>>78723662
Need to publish some book, no job at what I do (tfw english degree), living in mom's basement, motivation yay but health nay. Used to be /fit/ but now I can't do exercise without my lungs burning so I've got a big belly. I also make vidya art, people I worked for praised my skills and dedication but the project died and I can't find another.
And finally > tfw no Spexit
>>78729186
I was born on the IOW. Live in the South-West now.
>>78729388
I don't really anymore. Which is why I avoid them now.
>>78729007
We both know what you need, connection, the trouble is how. I don't have a quick formula but the first step is intention on getting it. What are you interested in? Don't assume everyone is out to destroy you. I also came up without love. These feelings will change when you're not focused on that narrative as an explanation to your loneliness
>>78723662
niggers, mexicans, and mudslimes, of course.
>>78729134
Nice, my specialty. My life was ridden with anxiety and i couldn't complete HS due to it. What do you think causes it any ideas? Some life events or lack thereof?
>>78729493
So far I've been doing some volunteer work to help build up my background. I send out job applications literally every single week, less than a third of those I get interviews. Not once have I gotten the okay to come work for any of them. I'm starting to lose the willingness to keep searching and just giving up. I'm living at home with my parents. I guess it wasn't meant to be, I don't know what I want to do with my life, I'm not intelligent enough for any kind of university program and don't have the physical strength for trade labor due to a disability.
>>78730156
I used to love space, but I'm not smart enough to get into that.
I like people liking what I have to say, but I'm not arrogant enough to believe that this isn't because of a woeful lack of self worth. Truthfully, I'm not sure I have anything good to say.
>>78729166
Self compassion. This thread shows its not personal. Get good shoes or a new trade.
>>78729754
Being a virgin is just a symptom of a bigger disease. All being a virgin means is that you can't communicate with other people effectively or process social cues as fast. That leads to things like being unemployed, homeless, a virgin, etc. Part of being human is interacting with other people, and if you can't do it very well, in a way it kind of means you're less human.
Accepting that and finding a niche is the only real solution.
>>78723662
I think my problem is simply I had no role model and I dropped out of highschool. I have nothing going for me intellectually but I would probably be a diligent worker if someone gave me a job and transportation. I honestly would love even 5$ an hour.
the EU, migrant crisis, lack of a masters degree (you cant work in the sewers unless you're a bachelors or masters student, regardless of what degree you're studying), so jobs are prioritized for incoming immigrants, students, and then the unemployed are left to rot, potentially getting "work practice" by working for 40 crowns an hour with no job at the end of it
going to these "work courses" where you're told by an immigrant supervisor that "you dont face the same difficulties the rest in the group do" whilst you're sitting in a room with people from nigeria, lybia, iraq, pakistan, and some idiot norwegian convert
meanwhile the only jobs that want you as an actual employee don't pay, and the work requires you to be told to kill yourself 300 times a day, or jew some idiot out of his money for a subscription on a magazine
>>78723662
>What's holding NEETS back?
Reward, all NEETS know that no matter how much they put into their lives the reward will not be worth the time
Better to spend your life trying to find any enjoyment and not matter at all than to try and have failure always be your outcome
>>78730392
im not really sure. partly because i didnt mature well due to having an overbearing mother so didnt feel like my life was my own to do what i wanted with. all i want now is a job and my own little place but it seems unattainable
>>78730392
Mixture of early adverse social experiences and genetics. I think I might've made it if my family had realized what was happening earlier and got me treatment. They thought I was just being a shitty little kid and being difficult on purpose, so I just got yelled at or punished until I was 12 or so and it started to get so bad that I couldn't go to school anymore.
>>78723662
I'm stuck n a loop of studying, going to workplace formation (unpaid work) get the title and never find a job on the sector, because they're going to get another sucker like me next year.
>>78729236
You need to get away from them and their plans. Take any job that will pay rent until you get a better one. They will not help you as you note based on history. And jesus stop being a penny pincher this time what matters is independence foremost. Then pursue the business idea.
Journal through it watch the anxiety go
>>78723662
Unemployment in my area sucks. Crime is going way way up in my area as well.
I'm slowly becoming bitter and cinical and apathetic about love in particular. Because I am beginning to realize the true reason I am alone is NOT because no one cared about me or because I was this or that, it's because I never gave anyone a chance, and I'm bitter because I was a lot more autistic then and now that I'm a lot better off I have no opportunities to find love.
I'm a passionate artist, have a promising career ahead of me, and stand to make a lot of money in my future. I just feel like I must be fundementally broken because I've only had 2 gf's in my whole life. 1 online and one irl. I feel like there must be something wrong with me because all my friends have or are finding love and I'm not.
>>78729550
Dude this is a temporary event in an otherwise probably normal life. Unemployment sucks but don't let it define you. We've all been there. Take a break sometimes and enjoy life
1) Don't go to college or trade school
Only job I can get pays so little that I can't even afford to live independently. I might not even be able to get a job at Walmart or McDonalds or whatever. These jobs are also soul-draining corporate jobs that don't benefit society.
2) Go to college or trade school
I will probably end up in $20,000+ of debt and be unable to get a relevant job. Or if I do, it may be automated out by new technology soon.
3) Go to college or trade school and actually get successful job
I won't even be able to find a non-ruined woman in modern society to start a family with who won't cheat on my, or divorce me and steal my kids/money.
Been dragging on a MSc forever. Probably failed some courses this time around because of lack of studying and will have to spend yet another year. Lack of motivation / confidence and the fact that I have the security of already having a degree capable of earning me a decent living is what's holding me back. That, and I procrastinate until the very last moment, then get overwhelmed, then either perform poorly or give up. Any advice?
>>78730820
What a sad existence if they actually believe that.
This us what happens when you give everyone participation trophies and crack down on bullying
>>78723662
I'm 25. I had a job as a web developer for 1.5 years but I ragequit. That was 10 months ago.
I could go back to being a web dev I guess, but I don't want to. Don't want to be cucked into sitting at a fucking desk. Don't want to be cucked into having FEMALE fucking bosses. Don't want to be cucked into giving into an SJW culture that has infested technology.
I keep thinking of the military but I never do it. Also, because my dad moved out a few years ago, there's no one to give me a hard time. I just sit on my arse all day. My mum gets mad but she's a woman so I'm bigger and physically stronger than her and I know she's never going to punch me. And if she did it wouldn't even hurt.
you should all read notes from undeground
>>78729754
Go to a staffing agency. Also peeps looking for jobs i forgot to mention this. It's great.
Big deal about virginity. I'm good looking and lost it at 24. Nobody worthwhile cares. You know the people who care about it? Low IQ degenerates that have nothing else in life to live for
>>78729804
Achievement by whose standard? Disregard what standard is set and do you
>>78728089
What kind of knowledge?
>>78731425
Get into lathes
No women to be seen there
>>78729937
You have a direction dude so don't sweat it. Take any job while you do your thing on the side. Why do your lungs burn
>>78723662
>I never believed in ghosts
I got my master's degree in engineering a few days ago, so I'm a neet right now. Worked 2 years in a engineering office while I studied.
I forgot everything I learned while working there. I can't remember shit from University. I have my diploma with a good grade, but I won't be able to talk about all the things I'm supposed to know.
I don't feel ready at all for a "real" job as a "real" engineer.
I'm riddled with complexes and doubts about finding a job, but I'll do my best. The biggest incentive for me is that I'm too old (27) for being a broke neet.
>>78730469
Keep applying yourself and look into staffing agencies. You got to find what your passion is too while you get experience
>>78723662
I landed up graduating college at the age of 25. The primary reason was the lack of access to the financial resources I needed to succeed. After graduating, I lived at home and worked full time till I was about 27, and had enough money for the down payment on a house.
I wasn't proud of it, and I felt like a lot more of my peers were initially marginally more successful than me. I strictly avoided dating for 5 years because it was embarrassing bringing females to my parents house at that age. But I think the most important thing to realize is that you should never give up no matter what; because your situation is unique to yourself, and it's crucial to recognize that others might have a head start, but you shouldn't give up because of that. Now I make pretty good money and most people my age are in financial straits, due to either poor financial decisions, or divorce, and child support payments.
Be as successful as you can possibly be and you'll do alright in this world.
>>78723662
OP I just don't like myself is there anything wrong with that? I want to get a qt girlfriend but I fear I'll only harm her
>>78731586
By my own standards.
I could do much better. I know.
The problem is a lack of desire to do so.
I see the world with a bigger picture and the picture is smeared in shit; the shit is rubbed right into the canvas.
>>78731749
Been 8 months doing tests and had several symptoms. Nothing found by doctors. I got throat, heart, stomach and chest issues coming and going. They told me it could be anxiety but anxiety doesn't make your wake up with your lungs burning every time you breath, and I'm chill as fuck.
>>78730515
Well what do you love now?
You are over analyzing social interaction. Sit in coffee shops or go to the park to see. It's not so cerebral
>>78730580
I'm OP and didn't write this. Troll post
new video game and anime titles. thats it really
>>78731694
That would be cool. Do you do anything like that?
So far I've applied for loads of factory jobs around here (I worked in a computer factory as an assembler/tester before the web dev job). Got nothing back from them so far though.
>>78730654
Take any job then. Staffing agencies
>>78732229
>web dev is so terrible that people rage quit and would rather work monotonous factory jobs
lmao
>>78732350
>Take any job then
Nigger there is no jobs. You're expected to grovel and beg for even the lowest most menial jobs.
>>78731425
>Don't want to be cucked into giving into an SJW culture
this is a big one
I went to take an assessment test at a local jc and its fucking insane. Illegals everywhere. people with neck tats. Haji Muslims everywhere. Assessment test questions are like
"Diversity is important for modern culture"
SA
A
N
SD
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What the fuck. Why is this on a fucking assessment test.
Then a Mexican got up after finishing and this beta sjw white male told him he failed the math part but he could retake it if he wanted to.
he laughed and said no.
Then I saw a white kid fail the math part and he got not offer to retake it.
This society is fucking spiraling down. with Affirmative action, Feminism, Jobs market being shit, mass immigration, Globalism.
Trump cant come soon enough.
OP here, going to a buffet so responses will be slower, didn't expect so many
Callous responses impersonating me are to be expected
Why are Americans so mentally ill?
>>78725205
>Everyone fails, thats why they're successful
>Either way the cure is self compassion and getting out there and doing stuff.
Spoken like a true normie, reddit is that way my good sir.
>>78732621
Hey normie moron don't you notice the id number next to your post? Fuck off I hope you choke on a chicken bone with your "let me help " virtue signalling.
I dropped out of school when I was 16, so I can't really do anything, I have not even the most basic of qualifications, never even did the GCSEs, and by now I've forgotten all the menial shit that's on that garbage.
Aside from that I've been keeping myself blissfully unaware of how anything works.
Can anyone explain college and university to me? To be honest, I've been thinking about going back because when I dropped out I was just in some super edgy "FUCK SOCIETY" phase, now that I'm a bit older and had time to relax and discover what I'm actually interested in (school honestly takes up too much fucking time for a kid, I can only safely say I know what I enjoy now that I've had some time where I'm not constantly being pressured into doing things I don't want to do.)
I think the real problem is that over the last 20-30 years or so, we started broadcasting this idea that people can do anything and work should be fulfilling.
This was a nice gesture, coming from generations of farm and factory workers, whose work lives consisted of doing the same thing over and over again every day for 8 hours a day and 40 hours a week for year after year. They wanted something better for their kids.
But that's not how life actually works. If your job is fulfilling, you hit the fucking lottery, congratulations. Most people's jobs are just drudgery that gets them a paycheck and that's okay. You take the job that's available, not the one that's "fulfilling".
We filled these younger generations full of shit. Idealistic shit, and now they're paying for it.
>>78723662
My father was a pathetic sack of shit. He didn't work, didn't contribute to the household, and was emotionally abusive to all of us. Normal people see their father come home from a day of work and put bread on the table. The one male role model I had in my life was an obese cunt who sat on the sofa all day, alternating between sleeping, eating, and telling me I was a parasite who he was going to kick out of the house.
>>78723662
Not a neet but I wish I was one. If I could afford to live as a neet, and it were possible for me to live on nothing, for the little cost of being a virgin, fat loser, I'd do it. You wanna know why? I have the incredible gift that I'm born with, the gift of creativity and artistic skills. I'm good with computers, and I have everything I need. I was 2 days away from finishing an actual video game, like yes a 3D one that's more than that shitty flappy bird game. I could have made thousands, possibly millions of dollars. But Because I went to work that day, that one particular day that someone happen to break in. I was at work, and I got a message from my mom that she had to go to work too. So when I got home, the windows were broken. Someone had gone into my house and all my mother's Jewlery boxes were open. They didn't even steal anything.. The fucking dumbass left a note saying something like "Sorry, I felt bad and put it back, but I had some cereal.".. The fucker had a bowl of cereal and ate it at my computer desk, and the bowl was laying face down on my fucking tower, with whatever leftover shreddies still on the air-vent holes on the top, and all the fucking milk went down into my harddrive and all my shit got erased. The last backup of all my stuff was from months prior, and I left it at my fathers house. He sold my backup as a "used flashdrive" for 4 FUCKING DOLLARS!!!
Living in Canada, of all places, it's nearly impossible for me to find a place to live, but my mom can't afford to support me any longer.
Gotta work.. GOTTA FUCKING WORK...
If I had endless amounts of time, I would have gotten more sleep; I probably wouldn't have depression, and I am a practical person; I would have just taken a few supplements of Hydroxycut and Garcinia cambogia and lost all the weight anyway. If you're going to do something, DO IT NOW!
>>78726445
ay nigga
we're cut from the same cloth
did you read the alchemist too
>>78723662
Why work when I the gubmint takes half my paycheck in taxes, I make more money sitting at home masturbating to anime for $1400 a month.
>>78723662
I heard NPR talk about this 2 days ago
>>78733200
Bro, I know the feel of living in a shitty, cucked country that can't get you a decent job worth a damn, because all these old cunts who can't afford retirement took our job opportunities, or we are just that unlucky.
Fuck this shithole "country." I want it nuked.
>>78733079
If you want my advice, this is what I would do in your situation. If you are able to lean by yourself, take the important GCSEs yourself, and any you might be interested in. So maths, science(s), english language + any others.
Then go for a degree with The Open University. They're reasonably well ranked for a university that won't ask you for a-levels.
That would be the quickest way to get qualifications and into a normal life.
Conversely if time doesn't matter to you, get GCSEs, go to college and spend 2 years getting a levels and apply to universities you want to go to.
>>78723662
If you're in America, un or underemployed and have a bachelors go teach english overseas.
Shit is pretty choice- not even a weeb.
I'll be doing an AMA for any interested until I decide not to
I'm antisocial. It's hard talking to people when not online. At 21, I've flunked community college twice, don't have a career in mind, an online relationship, and I don't have any friends.
Please tell me it gets better. Because eating a bullet sounds interesting.
>>78725898
Guy's a faggot but he has good advice on retiring early (he retired after nine years of working).
There are a bunch of other FI/RE blogs and forums out there but the bottom line is frugality+smart investing
None of this matters. We are all living in a simulation. Our perceived 3d lives are actually holographic projections
>itt: losers feeling sorry for themselves
>>78732467
Basically yeah, at least in a factory you're interacting with real life and real things and real people.
>>78732569
>Then I saw a white kid fail the math part and he got not offer to retake it.
Are you sure he wasn't just being forgetful? I doubt anybody would do that because they're thinking "lol you white shitlord you're the reason slavery happened"
>Affirmative action, Feminism, Jobs market being shit, mass immigration, Globalism.
Agree that all that stuff is shit. The wrong people are in power. Thank God we voted for Brexit really.
I get autism bucks, why would I want to work a normie job when I have my house/garden/pets to attend to
>>78735917
Honestly though, pretty soon we will all get neet bucks when the robots take over
>>78735431
We're young men who feel excluded from modern society. That's why we come here in the first place, moron.
Back in the day, young men like us probably would have worked in manufacturing, maybe things like steel, coal, or we would have signed up for the military I guess. But nowadays there are two problems with that: 1) those manual labour industries have moved to China now, and 2) we have single mothers (which was never previously a thing) that tell us not to take the risks of male-oriented jobs, like factories or the military, because they're women, who are naturally risk averse.
On that second point, you could just say "lol you're a faggot for listening to your mother and not just doing it". Yeah you're probably right. But back in the day, men were ENCOURAGED to be manly. Now you're SHAMED for being manly and you're encouraged (by your mother, and by society) to be fucking FEMININE. "Oh go and do a nice office job, go and do some charity work, do a service industry job where you're literally employed to be a deferential faggot with social skills" (social skills, like deference, are an inherently feminine trait). So yeah, that's why we come here I guess.
>>78736410
Someone please respond to my post because I think I'm making a very good point.
>>78736410
This guy gets it
>>78737791
Thanks man, I thought I was onto something.
>>78723662
24 year old NEET here, never had a job
>virgin, never even kissed
>no friends
>no social skills
>depression
>anxiety
>no motivation
>don't want to be rich
>angry
>see no point in working
Ask me anything
I'd stop being a neet if I could, but don't really have a choice.
I don't really want to work with Canadians, and have to walk all the way to the border if i stopped being a neet. I'm working my ass of to make money online so I don't have to be homeless but its not going so well.
I am extremely slow to do anything.
Quite often I get extremely fatigued and moving at all feels like an extremely strenuous effort and I can't move accurately at all.
I need to sleep a lot otherwise I am extremely tired.
Sometimes I am extremely enraged by the slightest things and have to concentrate efforts on suppressing anger and it takes hours to get out of this state.
I end up avoiding people a lot because no-one will take any of this seriously.
I do work but only a minimum wage, part-time job because full time completely destroys me and I can't even begin to compete in anything better.
>>78736410
Well you're pretty much right, we've moved to service based economies so reasonably paid 'skill-less' manufacturing jobs don't exist anymore. That and far too much emphasis and pressure has been put on kids emphasizing university in a schooling system that is largely failing to engage young males.
Skilled labour is today's equivalent of manufacturing jobs, but you can't just walk into a place and ask for a job you have to go through training schemes and apprenticeships which are under-advertised and even demonized to some extent.
>>78738530
Also I'll probably an hero soon.
>>78739108
I get very angry too sometimes. I alternate between fury, misery and numbness.
I can't even remember the last time I was happy.
>>78738885
What do you do online?
>>78737671
>>78738217
Why do you need so much validation?
>>78730469
>Disability
Are you applying at places that hire your kind?
>>78725898
>All I want is to have enough food to eat, enough shelter to sleep, enough clothes to keep comfortable, and time to be able to read, think, and play music. I definitely don't need to be a wageslave to meet those goals.
It can't be good for you to put your long term welfare in the hands of current government policy regarding welfare. When you think long term, your current attitude is terrifying, and renders you powerless.
>>78723662
Everybody thinks they can get a full time job just as a placeholder. They think follow their dreams at the same time but 20 years fly by and before they know it they have a wife, 2 kids, and a mortgage. Their job sucks the life out of them before they can accomplish their life goals. This happens every single time.
I don't want to fall into the same trap.
>>78723662
I'm a lazy depressed autist with no motivation, discipline, or self-confidence. Sometimes I hate myself so much that I'd kill myself, but then I think of all the things that my family has to clean through, and I stop myself. I fear failure, but I also feel immense guilt and regret over my wasted opportunities that I've had in my life. It's like I'm stuck in a hole, but afraid to reach out for the rope that lets me escape.
>>78740896
at least they have something to show for those 20 years
>>78738530
>>78739249
Dude you're not missing out on much, my man.
Women are fucking disgusting. All of them. Other than to fuck... no worth at all.
Fuck a prostitute to get rid of the ''virgin blues'' but other than that, there is not much anyone can say.
Things change all the time. Your life can be completely different in a matter of days/weeks/months. One minute you're working and coasting along fine....The next you're neet and in a slump again. No big deal. Who cares anyway, really?
Anxiety is terrible though so I completely understand. I am anxious sometimes and cannot leave the house but really, it's all in our head. Chemical reactions making us feel a certain way at a certain time.
Just don't do anything stupid or count yourself out just yet.
>>78740851
Should clarify that i'm not a full blown NEET, merely extremely apathetic at this point to contribute to society beyond meeting my needs.
> Have job
> Make enough to live comfortably
How does one find motivation to work /towards/ goals rather than just avoiding negative outcomes? I was raised to shun the material world in favour of spiritual fulfillment, but now I'm a childfree agnostic and feel like I'm just wandering
>>78741107
Tell that to all the middle aged men killing themselves in record numbers.
>>78738530
>never had a job
Damn son. What's your living situation? Living on your own or with a parent? If it's with a parent then how come they don't give you a good kicking up the arse?
>>78739214
>reasonably paid 'skill-less' manufacturing jobs don't exist anymore.
Some do, but there are MUCH fewer of them. As I said, the UK used to have massive industries for things like coal and steel that young men would have gone into. But they don't exist now. And yes of course a lot of manufacturing has moved to China / Taiwan etc.
>That and far too much emphasis and pressure has been put on kids emphasizing university
You're exactly right about that. Tony Blair perhaps had noble ideals but you can't have an entire country in desk jobs. It just doesn't work. There isn't enough of that type of work that needs doing.
>a schooling system that is largely failing to engage young males.
That's another, and in my opinion separate issue. Almost all teachers these days are women. Back in the day teachers would all be men, tough disciplinarians. But now society says that discipline is "wrong". Actually, they're wrong.
>Skilled labour is today's equivalent of manufacturing jobs, but you can't just walk into a place and ask for a job you have to go through training schemes and apprenticeships
Yup you're right.
>demonized to some extent.
See this is what I wonder about. I have been looking at apprenticeships in engineering type stuff, but at the same time, I went to private school, and I have a degree (philosophy, fucking useless). Maybe I should just go and apply for those things anyway. They might look at me weirdly thinking "you did a degree? This is a job for people who barely have a couple of A levels", but maybe I should just do it.
>>78724979
try affirmation videos. I have been using them just to think more positively. It seems to be working a little
>>78729183
Why did you drop out?
I dropped out cause I was offered a full time job in a field I liked. Never looked back.
>>78734618
Lol im exactly the same
>19
>was a NEET since I graduated highschool last year
>just got two jobs, maybe a third
I'm clawing my way out Allah willing
>>78740332
Because I'm insecure and unconfident, why else would I come here?
>>78741062
Reading your post, something has just hit me. Imagine the TV news doing a piece about depressed, unmotivated, unconfident young girls / women, who hate themselves and want to kill themselves, but are also wracked by guilt at what their family has given them. They feel immense guilt and regret over their wasted opportunities. They feel stuck in a whole, and afraid to reach out for help.
Imagine TV news doing that piece. It seems plausible doesn't it? It definitely does to me. They would say "it's a social crisis, we're failing young girls/women, something needs to be done"
But now imagine TV news doing that piece about men. They might do it, sure. I think I've seen a piece about hikikomori in Japan on YouTube before. But people wouldn't say "we're failing young boys/men, something needs to be done". They'd say "lol fucking losers"
Now, I don't want people to have sympathy on me, because I'm a male and as such I have male pride. But at the same time, i'm just pointing out the bullshit that people seem to give so much sympathy to women. Men at the moment are fucked, and nobody gives a shit. We need options in life but we don't have any. And it's shit.
Anyway sorry for your situation lad.
>>78741440
I might see a prostitute eventually, idk. Dunno how much it would do for me and I'm sure I'd still be terrible with women.
I doubt things will change any time soon, my life has been getting worse for years.
Yeah anxiety is shit. I can hardly conversations or look people in the eye since I get so nervous.
>>78741605
>Damn son. What's your living situation? Living on your own or with a parent? If it's with a parent then how come they don't give you a good kicking up the arse?
Living at home with parents. I don't know why they haven't. I'm sure they think I'm a failure and resent me deep down for being useless. Barely speak to them any more, I've nothing to say. I don't spend any money or go anywhere anyway, still don't even feel like an adult. Doubt I'll ever move out.
OP here, I'm finishing up dinner but see others have responded. Let me know if you want a response to a post in particular
I beat social deviancy, anxiety, depression and loneliness and am gonna fight to restore men's status
>>78741062
I relate to all of those feels, my Swedish friend
>>78723662
Well basically I have no social skills so I can't get a job because the job interviewer thinks im a freak.
>>78742305
It is beneficial to the survival of a species to be extremely concerned with the well-being of the females and to treat the males as disposable so these traits became more common in the gene pool.
>>78740896
You're using "life goals" as an analogue for wanting to live as a real man with self-respect and the confidence and ability to do the things he pleases, like go on holiday, attract a woman, but also be free to make your own decisions and not pushed around by other fucking people.
Not every job is a "trap", but some DEFINITELY are. It depends what you do, of course. If you're some cucked middle manager who has no real authority, is just being pushed around by your superiors, overworked in office bullshit, then that's a trap. But if you can do a job where you have some sort of authority, where you can have some sort of pride about what you do, then you will enjoy your life a lot more.
Try and get a job which you can take some sort of pride in, and where you will eventually be able to have some sort of authority. THAT'S how you avoid falling into a "trap". At the end of the day though, we're all sort of trapped by realities aren't we... the only way you become completely untrapped is if you're Bill Gates who has practically unlimited money, but even he had to play by life's rules, laws, business regulations, anti-monopoly legislation, as he often found out. There are degrees of cuckery, and your job is to make sure you are as un-cucked as possible.
>>78726907
Wew, YES, all of life's ills are because of porn.
Fucking hell m8, how do you manage to type this cringy bullshit?
>>78723662
I have about 750,000 american dollars headed my way by the end of September. I literally have no idea what to do with it though. but between then and now, I have about $2000 to my name. I'll probably put off eating a few days here and there. Hopefully nothing happens to me between these 2 months that require a ton of money.
>>78742456
What does your dad do? Can't he show you the ropes in whatever he does?
>>78742805
Damn maybe you're right. Maybe it really is survival of the fittest. Maybe it's just up to me to grow some balls and get the fuck out there. You might be right.
It makes it more difficult, though, when being overtly male gets you fucking penalised. You have to watch your every word. It's fucking madness to be honest.
>>78742456
So what, mate? You don't need to be good with women. This isn't a reality TV show. Providing you put yourself in the right situation, you can literally dribble on yourself and still end up ''pulling'' a women. More than half of the game is just showing up to play. Literally. No one can see your eyes in a dark room, no one can see if you blush a bit or get twitchy, no one can see and no one even cares to be honest. My point is: You don't need to be good with women.
It's a waste of time to chase women anyway, I'll be honest. Completely empty and once you've done it once, you've done them all... So yeah, get it out of your system with a hooker... You'll see it's not that important and life will go on.
Work on the anxiety more than anything. Anxiety is the real killer. DO whatever you can to work on it. Therapy, meds, gym, forcing interactions, books, meditation... whatever it is.
Anxiety kills potential. You have to work to overcome it, though. Like hard fucking work as well.
>>78742931
Sure bud
>>78726907
learn more.
>>78732229
>>78732467
Seriously. I have been working in IT for a while, at first in a PC repair shop but in the past 2 years got my first "real" business IT role where I could go to end up being a systems admin or some higher-level Microsoft support or IT analyst guy if I wanted. But everything fun about the older IT jobs (working on actual stuff on the bench, the crazy customers and fun co-workers) are gone, just corporate drudgery and constantly sitting in the same chair.
Factory work is 100% more enjoyable and I've done it before so I can say. I see some stuff like a 24-week CNC training program at a college here. Is that a decent thing to do or should you ideally do a longer training program like a 2-year degree?
>>78728795
You do know Ghost Adventures is still around, right?
Only Nick has left.
>>78743106
I don't know how much your rent is but $2000 still sounds like a fair sum for two months. If I were you I wouldn't go without food, I would just buy cheap staple food in bulk and cook stuff. You can eat INCREDIBLY cheaply if you buy cheap stuff, in bulk, cook big dishes, and chill / freeze portions to give you food over several days.
>>78741705
Psychedelics are god tier for positive affirmation, but you might temporarily be pissed for being stuck on this dysfunctional planet.
>>78742456
get laid, either by last call at the pub, or a hooker. it really isn't that important, and the sooner you realize that sex is a primal function that is both fun and completely retarded the better.
>I can hardly conversations or look people in the eye since I get so nervous.
The only reason to not look someone in the eye is if you think they're superior to you. Since your average person is an idiot, that's probably not the case.
>Doubt I'll ever move out.
It's often repeated, but if you're living at home get a gym membership. The dopamine and endorphins you get from exercise will make you feel more positive and you'll sleep better.
It's almost laughable how some people treat you differently when you put on a little muscle.
>>78743238
>You have to watch your every word. It's fucking madness to be honest.
This is also a feminine thing, the expectation of following a very strict social code.
I was selectively mute for 6 years so my social skills are very underdeveloped.
Female peers are basically impossible to communicate with.
Male peers and middle aged women are variable; I'll be able to communicate with them for a while, but they'll eventually take issue with something stupid.
Middle aged and old men, and old women are easy to communicate with.
I think it's because men weren't expected to care about complex social signalling in the past.
>>78723662
i can charm the panties off anyone. get along with most people except hood niggers and hood mexicunts. what do you want to do when you grow up? never had an answer.
thought about mortuary school and did my high school final project on it. thought it would be fun to feel up dead chicks and probably settle into a life of moonlight and necrophilia. the school project kinda turned me off of it. i dont wanna break dicks or patch bullet holes in faces.
im lost. set adrift at a young age with no destination. got a decent job doing shit at night so thats about as far as my life goals or dream go. fuck making a family i hate babies. live alone with a dog. drugs are fun now and then but just make life feel more empty.
>>78743828
>
The only reason to not look someone in the eye is if you think they're superior to you. Since your average person is an idiot, that's probably not the case.
THIS! Racism literally made it so much easier to talk to people. Believing that being Nordic makes me racially superior to non-Nordics makes it SOOO much easier to talk to people, even though deep down I know it's not really true but I think about Nordic supremacy in public for that reason.
I'm 30 years old, with a dead end job, and no GF. I have $200k in savings and 80k invested/401k, all from a job I no longer have.
The truth is that I rather watch anime and play vidya instead of working. But I don't want to disappoint my parents, what should I do? Besides voting for Trump, I feel there is nothing left.
Success feels like failure, encouragement is disparaging, compliments ring backhanded innuendos.
The realization I can never fully transition to 100% female
>>78743434
You're so damn right. I think sitting in the same chair all day is half the reason I hate it to be honest. But yes, also the lack of real-world interaction.
>I see some stuff like a 24-week CNC training program at a college here. Is that a decent thing to do or should you ideally do a longer training program like a 2-year degree?
I have no idea about that sort of thing personally. Do you mean like to become a CNC machinist? So a very hands-on job? I saw someone on here the other day who said they were a CNC programmer (presumably a programmer of CNC machines) so not sure if you're referring to that.
I have personally thought about network engineer qualifications. At least those guys go and visit sites, deal with networking hardware, are dealing with physical things and physical locations and physical people.
>>78744065
>This is also a feminine thing, the expectation of following a very strict social code.
Exactly. Men like to banter with each other and say whatever the fuck they want. That's how we test our limits, by being outrageous as fuck and seeing what happens.
>I think it's because men weren't expected to care about complex social signalling in the past.
I think you're right there too. There's this video with Simon Baron-Cohen I've watched on YT a few times, where he talks about his research into the sex differences in babies / children. And one thing he says he found is that males tend to develop social skills much later. They're also less interested in faces than females, on the first day of life. And they're just generally worse at emotional things and social skills than females.
>>78723662
i just dont care
im gonna play it out until i get kicked out one way or another then im gonna kill myself
>>78744139
This is your life and you're fucking 30 years old. Why the fuck are you ever wondering about your fucking parents. Do you life with them? If so, move the fuck out.
Vote Trump. He's a force for fucking change. Like you should be.
>>78744139
>I'm 30 years old, with a dead end job, and no GF. I have $200k in savings and 80k invested/401k, all from a job I no longer have.
>The truth is that I rather watch anime and play vidya instead of working.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPCp5xsP-vk
>>78723662
I'm in my 30s with a law degree and currently NEET
every time I get a surplus of money I got fucking crazy with the partying so being NEET is probably keeping me alive longer
>>78744441
Transsexualism is a mental illness anon. Please grow some fucking testicles. Thanks.
If you are being serious, here's my advice - all males feel doubts about themselves, whether they're manly enough. I've had them all my life. My mother used to say she wished she had had girls, and I felt so guilty throughout my life for being overtly male. But fundamentally I know that I want to fuck a girl, I want to produce children, I want to spread my fucking seed.
If you think that you have no urge to do that though (which I would find hard - no actually, impossible - to believe), then I guess go to /lgbt/ and indulge in your mental illness there.
>>78742931
Well why do you think anxiety and social deviancy is so prevalent now? I never said porn is all ills. But internet generally is a major cause of it.
The point is lack of social ties will destroy you. Internet is a short term substitute that will slowly rob you of real connection
>>78731601
Probably some anime fanfic faggotry kek
>>78744441
>>78744941
My theory is that weak men see the way people dote over pussy from childhood, and without strong male role models (plus our increasingly vaginal society) become envious of the power. They don't want to have to struggle the way men have to struggle to define themselves - so they decide if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
Didn't go to uni at 18 instead deciding to take a break and get some cash behind me, now I'm 24 going between joblessness and bottom of the barrel employ. Not really sure what to do, anyone have input that doesn't involve a short drop and a sudden stop?
>>78723662
Got a degree in a meme career because I was young and stupid. Now I'm 26 and can't get a job. I have no idea about what to do with my life.
>>78723662
I'm in my 30s, univ. education and steady job. I'm having a child with a woman I don't love and I think is ugly. What's your advice? I'm not going to leave the kid fatherless.
>>78745462
Use a gun
>>78745603
find a guy with his shit together to take your wife from you
>>78744445
I've had CCNA but I could never get a job in it, and it's expired. I don't think most of those people do physical work. They just telnet into stuff and configure it. There are the physical network installers but I think they are lower-paid. I'm more interested in getting out of IT entirely.
>>78743599
i live in NYC so rent is a shit ton higher than anywhere else
is there treatment for amotivational syndrome?
>>78745603
Get your shit together, be a good father, and cheat on her.
>>78745462
Start a band
>>78746271
>from one NYC anon to another
$2000 to last you until September? You're fucked unless you do some budgeting. You've got 66 days until September 1st. About $30 a day. How's your metrocard situation?
>>78743238
>What does your dad do? Can't he show you the ropes in whatever he does?
Works in an office, not really possible. He's ok though.
>>78743260
I'm trying to get over it, it's just very hard and I seem to hit setbacks often.
As for women, well if it happens, great, otherwise I'm not too bothered, doubt any woman would want to be with me anyway.
>>78743828
I think the eye contact think probably is me thinking I'm inferior. Maybe silly but it's a bad habit now.
I can hardly leave the house often, I think the gym might be off the cards at the moment. I do some bodyweight exercises at home, I'm in decent shape, it's not my physique that's my problem.
>>78746401
Getting a job
Not even kidding
>>78746729
where you from, lad?
>>78746438
Thanks, I already feel empowered.
>>78746830
Not certain to make any difference by itself.
>>78747024
Nah it does. Things seem a whole lot smoother when you have a good routine and are forced to interact with people daily.
>>78746934
You got it, finnbro.
Think about it. If you come home to your mediocre wife (will she be a good mother at least?) after a nice post-work blowjob, how angry can you get? You'll be pleasant and patient.. It can only help your marriage anon
>>78731178
>37 posts by this id
begging you to give some conrete advice instead of the same motivational poster response every single time
>>78747102
This
The thing that keeps NEETs being NEETs is having no responsibility and nearly unlimited free time. Getting a job makes you value your time so much more and therefore makes you more productive. Also you get money.
>If you're in your 20s and have nothing going for you, what is the main cause?
I have health problems and I can't afford a doctor.
That's literally it.
Thanks Obama. His plan destroyed my family's coverage so now we can't go to any type of specialist or we pay everything out of pocket.
>>78746830
>>78747102
yeah but I will just get a shit job if I get one while unmotivated and then I won't have time to improve myself and get a job I want
>>78745603
adn test
>>78723662
>>If you're in your 20s and have nothing going for you, what is the main cause?
>
>I have health problems and I can't afford a doctor.
Careful, you're starting to sound like a nigger...
>>78747641
Stop making assumptions
Maybe you'll like that shit job. Maybe you'll even get promoted. But until you do something, nothing will change.
>>78746705
I think Igot about 2 fares
>>78745451
Maybe. I personally think it's kids who feel guilty about being masculine though. Maybe their dad was a bit violent, he left, and their mother was a bruised woman who was like "I'm NEVER raising you to be like that, you're going to be a nice boy!"
And hence the degeneracy is implanted in their brains. Christ I fucking hate women with all of my passion. Unless they are fit and then I will fuck them for children and that's it.
>>78745603
Sounds tough. It's your choice though. Part of being a man is making your own choices. You could choose to leave the kid. Or you could choose to stay. Or maybe there are other options open to you. Only you are able to make the choice though. Decide what's most important to you I guess.
>>78745925
>There are the physical network installers but I think they are lower-paid.
Yeah I thought that might be the case.
>I'm more interested in getting out of IT entirely.
That's the dream. That's the fucking dream. Are you the same guy wanting to get into CNC by the way? Just because it's a different ID. If you're not then what do you do in IT if you don't mind me asking?
>>78746271
Ah that's shit.
>>78746729
>Works in an office
How your dad isn't giving you daily beatings is beyond me. My dad probably would if he was here and still with my mum. But alas, he fucked off to buy a bachelor pad.
Anyway, have you said to him, "dad, I feel fucked, what should I do?" See what he says. That's what I would do if I were you. If your dad was capable of getting a job and working a career then obviously you are too.
If you work together as a team then it's going to be a lot easier than you sitting in your room and hating yourself. That just seems stupid really. And surely if you're expressing an interest, then he will be happy to see that and will want to help you?
>>78747392
Yeah, she will be a great mother. It's just that I can't think of why I didn't reproduce with someone more attractive than her. It's summer here and the outer world is filled with girls hotter than hell, most of which I think I would have the chance.
>>78747641
Nah that's an excuse. Doesn't matter if its a shit job. Just do something productive as a step in the right direction
I know it sounds fucking terrible but once you have the responsibility of going to work you'll feel way better than waking up at 3pm and playing vidya
>>78748054
>>78747875
I've had shit to decent jobs before
playing vidya and sleeping in is much much much much better
Welshfag here.
Literally no jobs.
Only jobs here are for electricians, car mechanics, or some fancy job at the BBC.
I got a degree in Music Technology with aims to work at the BBC in Cardiff but they only take on 16 year old apprentices with no experience now.
While i could work at McDicks for the rest of my life for a pittance, i choose instead to live on the dole. I'm currently trying to save up to start a computer repair business and do that until i can afford my own gear to start a PA hire company (which i have done on and off with a jew who doesn't like to pay me).
I have worked a myriad of customer service roles, i have run businesses in the owners absence, i have worked 14 hour shifts as a busboy and £30/per hour jobs for the government.
None of this means shit if you're a 23 year old with a degree. To top it off i have to go to babby sessions at the Jobcentre to get £200 every 6 weeks to literally live on. Fuck it all.
I'm currently praying that i can get £150 off the Princes Trust so i can get business cards and flyers printed for computer repairs, and hosting for the website i made.
>>78747955
>"I'm NEVER raising you to be like that, you're going to be a nice boy!"
Yeah that was me. I never wanted to be a woman, thank fucking christ, but I was afraid of masculinity. That's why I always recommend weight training. Actually boosting testosterone levels is a great first step for these sad motherfuckers.
>>78747641
I'm a NEET but I can tell you, shit jobs are fucking awesome. I've worked in a supermarket, a convenience store, in Starbucks, in a factory. All of them were fucking awesome. You just bum around a lot of the time, occasionally interact with customers or colleagues, stack things together, and you get paid for all that stuff. It's awesome. Really fucking awesome.
Stress is usually very low for those sorts of jobs because any flack is taken by a manager. You don't have to worry about how many customers are coming in, all that shit. That's the manager's job. You just need to do the menial tasks, which is fun.
>>78748337
How long has it been since you've had a job
>>78748559
6 months
car salesman
>>78747527
It is concrete. I don't have the persons life story and we got 100s of replies, i just say what i think is most apt.
I will start some wordpress soon with more info maybe. I have more experience trying to get out of a rut in life than almost anyone
>>78748381
I'm also currently volunteering shit loads of places to try and get proper sound engineering work but the only places that hire are companies that you have to be friends with first. To be friends with them you pretty much have to be really into the Cardiff music scene. I live 10 miles outside of Cardiff and have a budget of £0 a month.
The most fustrating thing is is that if my fuckwit parents actually saved some money while they were earning well (theyre both currently unemployed after their business tanked and had remortgaged the house to pay for it), i could have easily mooched off them for like 3 or 4 months and i'd be away.
>>78747566
What health problem?
>>78747983
We all make mistakes. In an earlier era, a better era for men, it was unspoken but understood that you were maybe going to get some side.
Take my country's Old West. Everybody from the mayor and the sheriff down hung out at the saloon, which was also the whorehouse.
Does she love you anon?
>>78748840
A non-healing ulcer, possibly cancerous. Had one before and it healed, this one won't. Need expensive specialist endoscope procedure to find out.
22y khv here. I suffer from sever social anxiety (cant talk to anyone without being afraid to be judged / cant walk in front of strangers because im afraid they will look at me and laugh, etc.), I barely ever go out (only to go to school), I have no friends because I always get excluded in conversations (I am introverted), I hate what Im studying (law) but I am forced to even if Ill never have a job, I feel like I ruined my parents lives because I drain their resources, I just want a gf but will never get one because of fetish (ill also never make her happy), I suffer from depression...
I just hate and despise myself so much, even thought about cutting myself.
>>78748714
Yeah man, you're stuck in a lazy shit cycle and no one's getting you out except yourself. I hate to sound like a motivational poster but you gotta take the first step even if its working a shit job. Just do it and you can progress from there
>>78748337
I feel you bro. Those things sort of are more enjoyable. But then you've got to think to yourself, do I want to keep doing this until I'm 30 or older, or do I want to procreate. Then it's up to you to decide what you value more, basically. I'm not going to tell you a job because I'm not your mother. If you want to get a job then do it, but if you don't, don't. I don't really give a fuck to be honest.
>>78748381
>electricians, car mechanics
Those both sound fucking awesome, why not do one of those?
>>78748385
You're so damn right, weight training really does bring it out of you to be honest. Makes you realise what confidence is. You can't do a bench press if you're feeling sorry for yourself and shy and retiring. You've got to puff out your chest and go for it. So yeah weight training is definitely very good.
>>78747955
>Part of being a man is making your own choices.
Thanks for writing that up. I guess things will go ok, at least she's white. And at least my genes will carry on. This waiting period sometimes just fucks up my mind.
>>78749010
Mate you can have a fetish and still have a girlfriend, I have one that I fucking despise myself for but I ended up telling my ex about it maybe 7 months into our relationship and she was fine with it
>>78749010
I hate to say this but get on meds dude
>>78749048
I think I am bipolar. I get a job, get money, almost kill myself with drinking, leave job or get fired and then cut myself off from the world thinking I am saving my health
I just wish I could have money without going wild
>>78723662
Lost my job a week ago.
Going to look for other things, otherwise I'll just kill myself. I dropped out of HS with a year to go, big mistake.
>>78749128
How would i get into that? I'm skint, i have ways of getting qualified as i'm too old and unable to get any sort of funding. I'm fucked. I'd love to get into engineering but its too late for that shit now.
>>78748999
Chris kesser wrote about ulcers check it out.. look into h pylori and google scholar it
I have urinary incontinence
>>78749183
what's your fetish anon?
>>78749010
I went to law school and it is the last place you want to be if you have social anxiety
since you are 22 you might want to get out before you waste any more money
it took me a 1/2 gallon of vodka a day to get through law school and I knew I didn't want to be a lawyer after the first 2 weeks in school but I got the degree to impress people and keep my gf at the time
wasted 6 figures although I guess having a law degree doesn't hurt
>>78749458
I know everything about it. The point is, I'm not a doctor and can't endoscope myself.
Next.
>>78733560
>>78733200
I feel for you guys. Shits fucking ridiculous here. I hit the jackpot and found a decent job at a company that doesn't suck dick and is in a white area, but literally everyone I know is on the pogey or working shit jobs and living with their parents. Just hope our new chinese overlords are merciful once le weedman sells us out.
>>78749238
Like I said, fill up your schedule with work and other hobbies. If you don't have any hobbies (other than drinking and playing vidya) then try new shit. The less free time you have, the better as fucked up as that sounds
>>78749200
I know I should probably get them, but I cant since my parents would know sadly.
>>78748872
>Does she love you anon?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure she does. I guess this crisis is a result of not having fucked enough girls in the past before her. Fuck it, I know I would be complaining if I didn't have her, and now that I have her I'm still unsatisfied. How do all the happy people get their happiness? Are they pretending?
>>78749010
Therapy bro.. not meds. You just need some social support a bit while you sort it out. Look at least you're in school you got time to sort this so that you won't have missed too much when you graduate
Quit porn and get friends and classmates around, get some hobbies and sports. Do exercise
>>78732350
Staffing agencies? I'll look it up. I honestly didn't expect a response.
>>78723662
vidya games
i always relapse
>help me, its getting pathetic
Too scared of commitment to a woman because I don't want my life destroyed when she gets bored in 5 years and takes everything I own. School and the job hunt are at least going well... hopefully I will make enough money to get a 9/10 girl and force her into the strictest of prenups if she wants my seed
>>78749684
I mean legal meds through a doctor. Don't fuck with happy pills like Xanax though.
Nothing, I don't think I am ready for this leftist scumbag progressive world.
>>78749607
I'm proper into women getting tied up and gagged, have been literally as long as I can remember like right back to the age of 3
When I was 12 I printed off some photos from a bondage website and kept them in my room, my dad found them a few months later and also some Internet searches I'd put in and confronted me about it which didn't really make me feel any better about it, said girls weren't into that sort of thing, and obviously the fetish was still there so I just despised myself for it and still do desu
Bout 7 months into the relationship with this girl though I opened up to her and she was really cool with it and we would have really good bondage sex so joke's on you dad I won
>>78732753
Pol is full of normies. Its one of the only decent boards here
>>78728854
Think of college as getting your normie certificate. It is a necessary process of joining the greater corporate world.
>>78723662
>only jobs are retail, burger or some office shit
>farming is monoculture run by minimum crew
>no lion or rhino farm to make sure poachers dont kill em all
>war isn't muskets and trench warfare anymore
>born too late to explore the earth
>born too early to explore space
>>78723662
>Bout 7 months into the relationship with this girl though I opened up to her and she was really cool with it and we would have really good bondage sex so joke's on you dad I won
Kek'd
>>78750000
>checkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkked
and thats common as shit dude, also women dig that stuff
>>78749769
That's how i got every job. Underrated cause they take a part of your pay, but if you're struggling for work or a first job holy shit its a no brainer. These companies wanna toss everyones resume and cover letter in the can so you use multiple agencies at once and make these fucks work for you to find the best job.
>>78750000
Also putting my hand over their mouths especially during sex that too
>>78749613
yeah but its too late for me to go out now, and even if I could, my parents forced me to go into that program and they dont want me switching into math or econ which is what I would have liked to do.
Im so afraid of having to practice in the domain (if I even get a job which I prob wont because the market is terrible) as I barely have any connections, I dont know how to properly interact with ppl, I have like no cv... DESU Id be incompetent I feel.
How have you done with your degree?
>>78749706
>this crisis is a result of not having fucked enough girls in the past before her
Exactly. if you don't get a lot of fucking in before you settle down, you're gonna feel that way. Frankly I think you'd feel that way regardless, given enough time.
I think people who broadcast their happiness aren't as happy as they want you to think.
>>78723662
26 here, just got a job being a reporter for newspaper and I hate it...was neet for awhile (not getting benefits)...I hate writing and I feel like I got into this job to make my parents proud, yet I cant stand anything about what I do.
the jobs chain of command tells me nothing, taught me nothing to start, and I hate writing. The editors constantly tell me im not doing a good enough job and I keep trying my hardest but i feel like im going nowhere...its ok to get some money, but I hate writing so much its almost not worth it.
>i have degree in PR
what else could i be doing, should i immediately quit to find something that will make me happy? or should i ride it out, knowing that i hate it, and hate waking up everymorning to write about the scum of the earth murdering each other.
If anyone knows how to find a job you love please let me know, ive been stuck in small louisiana town for forever
