Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.
With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.
How?
Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.
And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.
The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.
The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?
Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?
Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.
If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.
The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.
When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.
All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.
>>78712126
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>78712802
THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO HAVE A WELL REGULATED ORAL SEX
>>78712067
>>78712126
>Bulgary
Yeah no, fuck off.
>>78713128
Ex-pat my man.
>>78712126
wow, so let's just give our countries up to United States of Europe amirite?
>>78712067
Bump for interest. Very good point.
>>78713481
Pretty much.
The point isn't that the EU has it's claws in the UK, it's that leaving is so detrimental that whoever steps up to be PM in 3 months will be committing political suicide.
If they invoke Article 50, the immediate consequences will have them out of a job within months.
If they deny the referendum result, they have dishonoured the population and will be out within days.
The UK is the state that nobody wants to rule.
>>78712126
This is why those idiots at VoteLeave should have let Nigel Farage have some part in the official group. Boris/Gove got what they wanted but none of them know what to do now that they actually won. What makes the situation worse is that they are going to do what Hannan was suggesting and follow the Norway model. That is a problem on its own because the only reason leave had so many votes was because of the controlled immigration - no one gave a shit about the economy.
Farage has always wanted collaboration with the EU but a model that doesn't involve free movement of labour. To get that sort of deal with involve playing hardball but we will walk with something.
invoking article 50 would mean the end of the UK, so this sounds about right. Leavers are fucking retarded for voting in favor of this because they didn't think through the consequences at all.
>>78715348
t. Trump supporter
>>78712067
>his side beat mine
>my side is correct
>therefore he lost
>>78713960
From a cucks perspective, I can see how winning would be considered losing.
However, a real leader would take this momentous opportunity and build a great legacy. Boris took a gamble backing a losing side and won big. If he was a cuck, he would never have taken the risk.
It has only been two days, all you impatient children need to pipe down. UK markets and sterling will come out stronger, EU will tank but they would have tanked anyway since the union is crashing with no survivors. UK will leave and get the best deal because it holds all the cards.
EU cucks BTFO
>>78712126
>>78712067
your whole argument rests on:
>Brexit is going to be bad in the long run
which is wrong you mongoloid slav monkey, there might not even be a recession, this is just millions of goys everywhere getting scared and selling because the jew on tv told them to be
everything is going to be fine, I hope that faggot Trudeau makes a free trade deal with independent Britain quickly though
>>78715792
I don't feel that the UK remaining in the EU would be "correct" as much as I feel it would be "much, much, less wrong" than leaving. But that is besides the point.
The point I'm trying to put forward is that the next (conservative) PM will be in a situation where they are absolutely fucked no matter what they do.
The two men who backed Brexit for a chance at the premiership are now going to cower from it. It's poison.
In this situation, the chances of the UK withdrawing from the EU are negligible.
>>78716170
>Boris took a gamble backing a losing side and won big
Because it was literally the only way he would have a shot at becoming PM. The arguments for Brexit did not compel him (and Gove) as much as the opportunity to become top dog.
Except the plan is now in the shitter because Cameron did not invoke Article 50 then recline, leaving a nice, blameless seat for the next guy to "take control".
Now the seat is a deathtrap, and whoever sits in it will be resigning before they can adjust the armrest.
Boris is fucked, Gove is fucked. And if there's nothing in it for them, why even try?
And no, unfortunately the EU is now in the position to be as harsh in trade with the UK as they bloody well like. They can live without the UK, the UK can't live without them.
>>78716753
>Brexit is going to be bad in the long run
Quite the opposite, anon. It's the short and medium term effects that make invoking Article 50 such political suicide. Neither Boris nor Gove have any reason to do it.
>>78716753
Whoever invokes article 50 is going to be the reason why the UK falls apart. That's a pretty fucking big reason not to invoke article 50. You're talking about destroying your own country.
