If so why?
I'm learning danish, it hard as dicks but at least they have letters you can recognize.
>>78664388
German as a third language.
>how else will I communicate with the German Arab States
>>78664388
Unless you have reason to use it regularly it's pretty difficult to retain it.
>>78664388
Story behind image?
You already speak the only language that matters.
>>78664388
That's a pretty funny image comment.
Japanese b/c weebshit. I'm interested in Dutch, but even Dutch people don't talk in Dutch.
>>78664388
>it hard as dicks but at least they have letters you can recognize
There are very few non-arabic alphabetical languages with learning material out there anyway. Also why Danish? There's a reason Scandinavians can all speak English.
I want to learn Russian because I think it sounds really neet but I'm struggling with fundamental pronunciation and will probably give up because of it.
>>78664388
Learn hebrew, my man. They has new lessons on Duolingo.
>>78664669
Thread from /his/. Ye old picture is finnish soldier executing russian spy.
>>78664498
Silly Spaniard, no one wil speak german langage in Germany in 20 years
>>78664669
Russian spy
Finn executor
Winter war
>>78664388
わたしは日本語を勉強するよ
It's going shit.
>Why
Because it's fun, also useful so I don't have to wait for translations on weeb shit, and I'm a filthy race mixer of the best kind.
Depends if you need it.
I learned portugese and english and never had to use it seriously, only on youtube, 4chan and stuff like this.
>>78664669
Finnish soldier executing a soviet soldier during the winter war, and the soviet guy doesn't seem to care at all.
>>78664388
There's no reason to really learn any other languages unless it's for a specific job. English is all that's important. I'm learning German because of my ancestry father's ancestry and I want to learn Latvian because of my Mother's. At this point it's about culture preservation.
>>78664817
>>78664941
>>78664879
Thx lads
what a strange war
Married a foreign girl.
Her family doesn't speak English, her friends don't like using English when they are with her and if there are kids they will be raised with it.
>>78664794
I've found that just making slavic sounding noises for an hour or two a day is enough to train it up. I used to do it in the car on the way to work. Just going "GBLYEA" over and over. Once you can do the throat-sound that's in like half of their words, you'll be fine.
>>78665017
Let me guess, your wife is Russian.
>>78664388
Japanese through weebshit. Starting taking lessons at one point but that fell through for various reasons.
Would also like to learn more German since I was taught it in school. I got pretty far with it on Duolingo but I'm incredibly uncommitted.
I'm learning French, German and Esperanto. Just for the hell of it.
>>78664908
>よ
引きこもり
>>78664388
I'm learning Japanese because there's money to be made off it.
>>78665055
How did you guess that?
>>78665034
No It's the rolling of their P that I cannot do. My tongue just refuses to move like that.
>>78665135
>USER WAS KILED FOR THIS POST
>>78664388
>second language
Weaklings. I speak German, Latvian & English on a first language level, Russian well, have basic understanding and speaking ability in Dutch, Spanish, Italian, Slovakian, Czech, Polish & a bunch of other Slavic ones. Also dabble with Latin, Japanese and French, but that's just separate phrases for now.
>>78665149
そうだよそうだよw
>>78664787
>Arabic
You mean Latin?
>>78664388
Japanese.
>why
Because there's no (good) place to do Chinese where I live, and Japanese is interesting in its own right even if it isn't my first choice.
>>78665159
Because Russians alone is stupid enough to hate English language.
>>78664803
>our alphabet doesn't have enough vowels
>here's an idea!
>let's create 5 special letters...
>and use them as completely identically pronounced duplicates of consonants!!!!!
Japanese is still worse, but what the fuck, Hebrew?
>>78664794
>I want to learn slavshit
end yourself
Het Nederlands bc I like their country
>>78664787
Danish because Greenland uses it as a second language and English a third. I've studied German then dutch for a while very similar (I wonder y).
>>78665225
Ain't u the bees knees. So when are u gonna leave Germany and put them to use?
>>78665182
That's a thing you acquire over a long period of time and continuous exposure, once upon a time i had a huge problem pronouncing english (mainly british english) words, it's been a long ass road but now i manage to even pick up parts of the accent. Same with non slavs and russian.
>>78665254
JOP piggu go homu.
>>78665436
I don't know what to answer, but I thing that Hebrew is magnificent language. It sounds like the language G-d would speak.
Weeb, I see absolutely zero point in learning any boring euro languages.
>>78665149
>>78665254
>being this much of weebshit to learn dying language from opposite side of world. atleast learn chinese cucks. china is superior to japan in every way
>>78664388
Man, why would you ever want to learn danish? Everybody in Scandinavia who isn't an old fart can speak English well. They're not far behind us in English proficiency and we're at the top.
Is it because of vikings or some shit like that? Because if so you should go for Icelandic instead.
>>78664388
>2nd language
step up nigga, it's common to speak 4 or 5 languages here
on topic you'd be wiser to learn russian or chinkspeak, you can assemble LEGOs without knowing a word of danish
>>78665225
Are you a professional language guy, or was that all in spare time? I know some people with 4+ languages they're good at, but they're all classics or linguistics specialists.
>>78665436
>Japanese is still worse
Japan had the potential to be the best language ever, but then they assigned more than one meaning to one picture
>>78664388
I'm learning Hebrew so I can visit Israel one day.
>>78665517
> thing
think of course
>>78665667
Based Sweden!
>>78665573
Except Japanese sounds like a language while Chinese sounds like a faulty faucet or gargling bird
And Japanese isn't from a country of degenerate ass pained dog skinners.
>>78665586
I want to go to greenland, mostly cuz it looks comfy I know a lot of German and Spanish is easy but I never use it.
>>78665225
>he doesn't speak glorious Romanian
Why even live ?
>>78664388
Italian is top language
Nobody uses it, still top
inb4 h8
>>78665653
>but then they assigned more than one meaning to one picture
You think having, what, 20,000+ pictures would be a good idea?
Or are you dumb enough to think that because a kanji represents multiple concepts, it's any more difficult to learn? Because there are thousands of English words that have multiple meanings, how are you supposed to tell "I beat my wife" apart from "I beat my wife in a race"?
I can speak French and know a bit of Russian. Absolutely worthless.
>>78665865
WEE WEE BLYAD SUKA
OO ROO SHEE OO BRAL PAPALI CHERT BONJOUR SACHREBLUE
All I know from either
Russian because they are based. Plus it is a beautiful language.
ANGLO/SLAV MASTERRACES btw
>>78665573
At some point, yes, it's just i'm past the learning curve of "it's hopeless i'll never understand this", would be a shame to let it go and chinese has obviously a lot of characters in common, to the point i can sometimes more or less make some sense out of chinese.
>>78665845
I think there are easily 20k+ in existence, just not in common use.
>>78665865
I love how French sounds, but can't actually make any of those sounds with my mouth.
>>78664879
Continuation War desu lad
>>78666037
France needs to get its shut together for me to try to learn that again, I really like it along with German because English takes so much from both.
Get better France
>>78666009
>>I think there are easily 20k+ in existence, just not in common use.
Maybe if you go by Chinese standards. Japanese kanji are only officially recognised up to the 6k mark, and passing the kanken that tests you on them puts you above 99.999% of people in the country.
Realistic figures are around 2-2.5k for your average normie, and 3-3.5k for literary buffs.
>>78664388
currently trying to learn Italian as my 4th.
Latin languages are pretty simple and have the same sentence architecture for the most part also same alphabet.
I want to learn Japanese. Friend of mine has been learning Chinese for awhile and it got me interested in the east Asian languages.Anyone know a good place to start? Are those language sites worth a shit?
I've read it's simple to pick up and speak conversationally but very tough to learn to read and write. I'm not a mango/animals guy but I've always been intrigued by Japan's history.
Maybe this would be a better thread for /int/ than /pol/.
>>78665798
Italian is definitely in the running for best sounding language.
>tfw raised trilingual
I learned Italian for muh heritage and can't find a strong enough reason to learn anything else
>>78664388
Been learning German on and off for years - lived there for a few years to. Started learning Spanish a couple of years ago and spent 4 months in Catalonia last year.
Not great at speaking either one. Can read Spanish quite well although that's no great boast - it's a pretty easy language to become literate in. Very weak at speaking it though. Quite enjoy speaking German although I'm far from fluent I can just about hold a drunken conversation.
>>78666215
>can speak 4 languages
>still starving to death
Sheeeeeeit
>>78665374
She isn't Russian, but another kid of Slav.
Her parents never learned English because they grew up in communism and her friends learned it at school but forgot most of it.
They tend to like it more when I attempt to speak their language when they are all speaking it than forcing them to speak English, so I do that. If they were like Germans where they immediately switch to English, I would have no need.
>>78666193
>Realistic figures are around 2-2.5k for your average normie, and 3-3.5k for literary buffs
That makes the language seem a lot easier, now. Obviously that's like 50k vocab, but getting the stroke order down for a few thousand Kanji seems easy enough, just time consuming.
At the moment i dont see a reason to learn any language besides english and maybe spamish.no other languages are really relevant in my eyes.
>>78666219
If you're interested in history, it's not worth it. The amount of work you'll have to put in for something that's really a passing interest is absurd.
Learn French or Russian, they're much easier and you'll be able to sate the same urges.
>>78666483
More like 20-30k vocab. Stroke orders aren't very useful, but you can learn the majority fairly quickly if you really want to because there are general patterns and only a few hundred radicals.
>>78664388
I'm also thinking about learning Danish. What do you use for learning? And why is it hard? From my perspective it's practically right in between English and German, and maybe a bit closer to English.
>>78666215
Ex-muzzie friend of mine knows 9. I guess you guys just don't take it for granted, can write for shot tho.
I've started to learn about 3 languages by now, but dropped each soon after starting. I can bable like a small child in each, but I can't hold a conversation for shit. I just can't get the motivation to study long enough. I just get bored.
>>78666219
>>78666488 is probably right about it not being worth it for you, but you can decide that for yourself.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
That's /a/'s daily Japanese thread's cornucopia of resources. Lotta good things in there.
>>78665483
>>78666640
Danish is a lot more germanic/Norse than what I'm used to. I wanna visit greenland, don't know how expensive home are tho.
>>78664388
I'm leaning towards French for my third language. Already started studying it a bit. Although I already understand 80% Portugues naturally...
French is difficult but similar enough, their culture is really outstanding and also as a Catholic and a Reactionary French is literally a god-tier country, so yeah that, French. I also have a thing for Mairon Le Pen.
>>78666219
>Anyone know a good place to start?
/a/ has a daily Japanese thread /djt/ with a wiki giving a pretty refined path to learning the language. The guys there are also pretty helpful too.
>I'm not a mango/animals guy
Unless you can get a teacher, a lot of Japanese comes from reading and more reading. You might have to contend with manga unless you can find a replacement.
>>78666484
>At the moment i dont see a reason to learn any language besides english and maybe spamish.no other languages are really relevant in my eyes.
Yah. You get boring bastards going "We should all be learning Mandarin!!!1" without taking the time to consider that learning Mandarin (While a great achievement and undoubtedly useful) is simply not possible for most people. On the other hand learning English or Spanish is a realistic prospect.
I'd love to (in theory) learn an Asian language but I know I simply don't have the time or motivation to put in the higher amount of required effort to reach a useful level of fluency. However I do know that I can reach a useful level of fluency in German or Spanish in a reasonable amount of time. You can also learn to read these languages quite quickly whereas Asian languages have batshit crazy hieroglyphic writing systems which even educated native speakers struggle with.
>>78666817
>>78666603
Ment for you. fuck
I'm learning Japanese because I'm a fucking weab and I want to play games and shit that haven't been localised or that have been localised poorly. Shit is tough.
>>78666603
Seeing as you already have both English and German I expect you'd find it very easy. Biggest problem I'd expect with Danish (as with Swedish, Norwegian, Dutch) is getting speakers to use it with you rather than simply switching to English.
Biggest trouble I had trying to practice German was Germans nodding they understood when I spoke to them, but immediately switching to English - and English is obviously far more widespread in Denmark than it is in Germany!
>>78665622
Not a linguist or translator, no. I'm an engineer. Knowing languages is just useful.
>>78665781
Eastern Romance languages are some of the most horrid ones in the world.
>>78664388
Det er godt at hore burger!
>>78666817
Well, English picked up a lot of French vocabulary during the middle ages. That would probably help you when learning a language like Spanish.
People in Greenland might even be speaking English, through NATO bases and trade with Canada. I could be wrong, though.
>>78665254
Wired weeboo
>>78664388
Mandarin!
>>78666853
There's news and literature in Japan, too. I'm not good enough to understand jack of it yet, but I like to listen to news articles on NHK News Web Easy. One of my goals is to be able to read Almost Transparent Blue untranslated.
>>78667051
Oh, yes. Sorry, we do that. It's trying to be polite, and maybe also showing off that you speak English.
That Danes speak English well is understandable once you know that they don't dub movies or TV series. They use subtitles instead. I partly learned English by watching subtitled TV shows on Dutch TV. At first you read, but by and by you find your way into understanding it.
Unfortunately Dutch TV can no longer be received here and German TV dubs e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g. The only way to get foreign sounds here is illegal downloading or buying the DVDs and set the audio to original sound.
>>78664388
Learn swedish instead desu
>>78665667
Everyone speaks english in israel and you can get by speaking arabic as well.
>>78667191
Tak :)
>>78667204
Learning the main ones that conquered others seems like a good idea. English, spanish, then islands or countries that have other ones. Idk, but feel like euro language is good rn.
>>78666488
>>78666742
>>78666853
Im surprised anything good comes out of /a/ these days. Thanks for the info guys, it really helps. I definitely wouldn't have looked there.
I figured I'll end up reading a bunch of kids' mangoes for awhile but that'd be fine with me to get a base understanding going.
Thanks again.
>>78664388
German and Italian
>>78667191
Now that moot is gone, can't you ask Hiroshi or whatshisname to give you back your ö?
>mfw all these burgers having trouble with pronounciation of european languages
Feels good to come from a country where the language covers most of the weird sounds.
I am learning Spanish because you need to know it where I live, as well as Dutch and Italian because they are my ancestral languages. My grandparents can speak them. Spanish and Italian are really easy but Dutch is deceptively hard.
>>78667527
>Oh, yes. Sorry, we do that. It's trying to be polite, and maybe also showing off that you speak English.
Yah I totally understood - last thing you want is some random asshole butchering your language when you know you can straight to the point in English.
I did often get better treatment for making the effort to speak it though - most Brits couldn't even manage the basics "Ich heisse...", "Ich moechte.." etc and there were a few times I got let into bars and clubs while colleagues got blanked or turned away cos they did the whole Ugly Arrogant Anglo thing.
Still would have been nice to reach proper fluency but only guys I know who managed that were ones who ended up living with/marrying German girls.
speaking german english french fluent. currently learning italian and farsi on a b2 niveau
its fun!
I had some Spanish in school, but I didn't really try to learn it. I figure that would be the most important second language for living in the states.
>>78667527
>be in Germany on business trip
>jet lagged as fuck when I get to hotel room
>sign in and get to my room
>turn on TV
>2 and a half men with German dub is on
>drink water from faucet because I couldn't find any still mineralwasser
You guys are weird t.b.h
>>78665374
>stupid
>>78667893
Yeah if you already speak English Spanish is easily the most sensible option - easiest to learn and opens up far more of the world than any other language.
>>78667768
Doesn´t hold much application on here I guess, also Moot killed himself
>>78664388
>Danish
>Hard
Fucking Americans man
There is literally no conjugation and it is pretty much english
>>78667932
It seems English fluency here has gone up in recent years, probably through new media. Our bus drivers and shopkeepers have to argue with Merkel's refugees on a daily basis, and they seem to do that mostly in English.
However since everything here is dubbed, you still find plenty of people who have had English in school (compulsory foreign language for everybody), but who don't speak it at all. I'm thinking of my parents and my brother, and a few of my friends as well.
>>78668067
>2 and a half men with German dub is on
One of the random bits of German vocab I have is "Sexuallen Belaestigingun" - 'Sexual Harassment' - which I picked up watching that Sexual Harassment Panda episode of South Park dubbed in German.
>>78668182
Dutch and German are English to me, they say girl like pige man wtf
>>78664388
Deutsch und 日本語 at the same time.
>>78665781
Suc pula proste
>>78668151
>opens up far more of the world
Nowhere worth going, though.
Dutch, German, Chinese, English, French and Japanese here.
Basically I was a lazy fuck during my university days. Never wanted to graduate and simply began learning new languages. I am pretty fluent at all of them, working as a translator for a company now. Jobs pretty chills.
I hate working with the Chinese though. Holy fuck these guys are the worst fucking people on earth.
>>78668275
>Our bus drivers and shopkeepers have to argue with Merkel's refugees on a daily basis, and they seem to do that mostly in English.
Yah I had been wondering about the impact the refugee influx would have on the language situation there - was interesting to see them chanting at the borders "Germany! Germany!" rather than "Deustchland! Deutschland!".
Particularly interested in the impact it will have in the Scandinavian countries seeing as they are pretty much at 100% population English fluency - what motivation will 'refugees' and migrants have to learn the local language when they could just use English?
>>78664388
I'm American I'll only speak my nation's language and argue why the foreigners who live here aren't learning ours.
>>78668067
Medium and still mineral water is available, it just doesn't seem as popular. Btw. it's color coded: Still and medium (half carbonized) water is either sold in green bottles, or bottles with green caps or a green label.
I only want to learn dead languages for some reason. Latin, Akkadian, and Ancient Greek. Something about learning a language to speak to people makes me lose interest
>>78668414
give us stories
Russian because i met a boy who said if i learned it with him he would smash my ass all night every night.
life is good.
>>78664388
well I can already speak several languages
my problem is that nowadays I pretty much speak english 80% of the time. I think and work in english
my german is getting worse and worse... sometimes I have to translate words from english to german
I am learn english, reading 4chAn helps me to learn.
>>78668441
In Germany it would be pretty hard to get by just using English. Like if you ask anybody in a shop or ask for directions in the street, chances are people don't understand you. If you get a letter from the landlord, people are coming to your apartment to inspect the heater (yearly inspection is obligatory), fix something etc, it will be in German. Same goes for letters from the authorities.
And of course, only top jobs like head manager, leading engineer, university professor etc. allow you to speak English on the job. Oral and written fluent German is a basic necessity for any kind of work here. Even street sweepers need to be told what to do, and that by someone who probably only speaks German.
>>78668830
Letters from the authorities come in all languages you want them to.
Like they had to translate the official documents to apply for welfare into like 100 different arabic dialects because the demand was so high.
>>78668695
Oh m8, dropping 4chan vocabulary on a normie IRL will get you some very interesting reactions.
>>78668639
Be honest with me how good is swisterland? I slowed down on German cuz Merkels spawn came through but found you guys don't have your own language so I kept on learning. Is it not EUs bitch?
>>78668830
This is how it should be.
>>78668465
Yeah they had it in 1/2 of the petrol stations, but not everywhere
>>78668639
>sometimes I have to translate words from english to german
I have to exact same "issue" but with english to danish. I fucking think and dream in english.
>>78668830
Yeah that doesn't surprise me. Where I lived (Niedersachsen) there was quite a high level of English due to NATO military bases (I was based there with Brit Army) but even then English was far from universal. Whenever I travelled to other regions and especially away from the cities what little German I had became essential.
>>78664388
I am bong.
I am balkanboo.
I am learn srpskobosanskohrvatski.
I want to live in woods in balkan with bears and wolves and grow potato.
All forests in England are chopped down and climate is shit and land is expensive.
>>78664388
Danish also
I'm considering learning a useful language in Britain, like Polish, Urdu, Punjabi, Hindi or Arabic.
I shouldn't even say that.
I'd like to learn Russian, Hebrew, and Finnish.
Also improve my Dutch, learn Afrikaans, Zulu, Xhosa and Swahili.
And then some useless languages like Frisian, Ainu, etc. But I'll probably never do that.
Trying to learn Russian but really lazy
>>78664388
Russian
because a quarter of my country's population is these idiots
>>78669133
Always impressed with how quickly Scandis become perfect - not just perfect fluency but perfect accent - English speakers once they move to an Anglo nation. You guys don't just get the grammar and vocab but also end up picking up the local dialects/accents 100% as well. The Dutch are usually excellent English speakers too but they tend to keep their accent - same with Germans. Scandis though blend in perfectly and can pass for locals.
First language Latvian, second language English. I also learned a fair bit of French when I was younger but I've got no fucking clue whether to keep doing it. Learning Latin might be pretty neat though.
>>78664388
Ok, that was pretty funny.
>>78664388
>If so why?
So I can shitpost on 4chan.
>>78668925
Some niggas like dick man whats wit the nigga orb
I had to learn French in school. I'm in a 50/50 English/French part of Quebec so it's been useful. I'm trying Spanish on Duolingo now, I'm finding the similarities to French make it easier.
I'd like to try Japanese but I feel Mandarin or Arabic would be more useful. pls no bully
>>78669162
It seems that always smaller countries pick up the languages of their bigger neighbours rather than the other way around. When I go to the Netherlands or Denmark, I find many people there who know German. They learn that in school, whereas we don't. That later helps them to watch our TV shows and read our books.
For Germany, English is the foreign language that I think everybody learns in school. (Latin, French, Greek, Spanish etc. are optional, unless you have a higher school education (Abitur) that has a minimum of 2 foreign languages.)
I noticed English fluency was considerably worse in France when I visited. Maybe it's their education system, maybe they're not as exposed to English/American culture as we are. The weirdest thing is that everybody who speaks it pronounces English words as they would written French. So you hear what they say, then your brain takes a moment to translate that into writing, and then you can decipher what they just said to you.
>>78669617
Do people speak French as often as English in Canada? I've never been
>>78668344
Juice, dick and random polish word.
You know all you need to know.
In all fairness, why don't we go to a constructed language, such as Esperanto or Lojban? Don't know about Lojban, but Esperanto is easy enough and we can use it as lingua franca.
But besides that, I'd learn serbian and dutch for fun. Ukrainian also because heritage.
Tried learning german, but it was horribad, so you guys flip a coin everytime you have a new word and need to pick a gender for it?
>>78669676
True. Funnily enough the country where I made most use of my German wasn't Germany - where there were a decent number of English speakers - but Turkey. In Turkey I couldn't speak Turkish and there were plenty of guys who couldn't speak English but could speak German - so we used the old Deutsch as a lingua franca.
The French are notoriously bad at English - it's because of their linguistic chauvinism/patriotism which I respect to a degree but it's left them disadvantaged really. I can still remember Chirac storming out of some press conference or other because the French running it were using English rather than their own language. They only recently seem to have accepted that it's a long, long, time since French (or any other language) could potentially compete with English as lingua franca.
>>78666345
>Very weak at speaking it though
I have the same exact problem. I can understand both written and spoken Spanish just fine. But when I try to speak it, I sound horrible.
>>78669062
it really depends on the neighborhood
I live in a very good one and regarding quality of life alone I can not imagine a better place on the world. but I will move out soon because I don't care about qol as much as I do about career and money
and yeah, the EU extorts us. but what can we do when we as such a tiny country are entirely surrounded by them? fortunately it looks like the EU will finally collapse and with that we will regain our freedom
>you guys don't have your own language
we do. swiss german has its differences and every region has their own dialect. however, especially near the german border they are similar to german. though, for some reason germans are absolutely terrible at our language. in german TV they often translate swiss german and you will recognize a german from the way he talks and behaves even after living in switzerland for over a decade
>>78669133
>I fucking think and dream in english
yeah
often I can't remember whether something was in english or german
>>78670037
My Croatian accent is the bomb. People think I am Slovenian or Czech.
>>78670013
Lojban isn't easy because of how alien it is. It's pretty confusing too.
A few aesthetic (inb4 AESTHETIC) changes might make it a bit nicer, but it needs capitals, full stops (instead of initially, etc) and so on to make it clearer, too.
It sort of feels all over the place. If you want a useful constructed language, pick Interlingua.
>>78670037
I've let myself get very rusty recently but I didn't have so much of a problem expressing myself - my accent might be bad and I might be halting but I could say pretty much whatever I needed. What I really struggled with was my listening comprehension. I know it's a bit of a cliche that people learning a language always complain that 'native speakers talk too fast' but I think there's an element of truth to it with Spanish.
My level of German is about the same and while I won't understand everything that's said to me that's simply because my vocab is insufficient - I will be able to distinguish all the separate words used whenever I'm being spoken to even if I don't know what they mean. I could transcribe spoken German fairly easily.
With Spanish, on the other hand, I could have someone speaking to me using only words and phrases I already know but I won't understand them because it just sounds like a superfast jumble. I asked some native Spanish speakers about this and they seemd to concur, saying if they had the option between speaking Spanish a bit more slowly or simply switching to ENglish they'd switch because speaking Spanish slowly seemed utterly unnatural to them.
>>78664780
>>78664908
>>78665134
>>78665149
>>78665155
>>78665254
>>78665336
Weebs, please /threadxit/ right now.
>>78670027
Interesting.
French, by the way, WAS lingua franca when I went to Tunisia on my holidays. That was before the whole revolution and Al Qaida thing. In our hotel we had most people French, about a quater or so German, a bit fewer Italian and only two or so people Brits. Hotel staff, doctors (diarrhea struck!), taxi drivers etc. all spoke French, most a few words of German, but nobody any English. I thought that was peculiar, English being international trade and science language.
>>78670209
>constructed language
>useful
>>78664388
>second
Oh boy. I am fluent in three (Czech, English, Spanish) and I can passively understand four (Slovak, Polish, Italian, Portuguese, although I will admit that the last two I can only understand when I see them in their written form, they usually speak way too fast).
I'd say my Japanese is intermediate. Grammar is simple and I speak without significant problems, but reading still fucks me up. I only know like 500 kanji at this point.
Next semester, I'm starting Korean, Arabic and Hebrew. I'm not expecting to actually study all these languages seriously, I want to get a feel of them and choose the one that will appeal to me the most.
And why? Well, it's a hobby. I love languages and words in general. Knowledge of languages comes instinctively to me, once I'm invested enough in a language I can usually predict grammatical rules before I officially learn them. The feeling of accomplishment when everything suddenly makes sense is beautiful. It will also be my job one day.
>>78664879
Using a Tokarev adds an extra layer of irony
>>78664780
Nederlands beste taal Schaap Schop Schande
>>78665469
better than learning something useless like romanian
>>78670359
Interlingua is, or could be, pretty useful.
Same as Interslavic or Slovio or whichever one it is. You can grasp the meaning pretty quickly.
>>78664388
I'm a Croat living in Germany, I can speak German fluently, also English and Dutch. I also understand the subhuman languages from the Balkans (Serbia, Bosnia, Monteniggers).
I can also write in cyrilic script, but I don't understand that much Russian. To answer your question why one should learn more then one language - to understand, communicate and culturally and intellectually uplift yourself. If you want to be great material on the job market, you have to be able to offer something.
Especially in Europe.
>>78670353
Yeah I'm not surprised to hear that. There are some regions of the Arab world where French is still extremely useful either because they're ex colonies or because it's still a fashionable 'prestige' language amonst the upper class Arabs. Got a Burger friend who (working for Govmt) was offered chance to get trained up in either Arabic or French to work in the region and chose French simply as it would be more useful across a wider area rather than learning 1 dialect of Arabic.
Was also pleased to discover the other day that German remains a major language in Namibia alongside Afrikaans and English. Would get a kick out of using it if I ever make it down to Southern Africa. Quite enjoy being able to understand snippets Dutch/Afrikaans courtesy of the German I know+English. Worked with quite a few Afrikaaner soldiers and their insults are easily understood if you have German - "Fotzkopf!" for example!
Depends where you are latbro; in Quebec it's mostly French but both are official languages of the federal government. In Ottawa/Gatineau it's about half-half because of that but it's not widely spoken out west and shit
>>78670591
What is interslavoc and slovio? They invented a pidgin slavic for all slavs to speak? This I can just about understand, after learning Croatian and serbian cyrillic I was watching Ukrainian TV during the happenings there and could just about get the gist, with the visual aids. My friend said she went to Czech and could be understood and vice versa. Slav languages are all fairly close.
>>78670606
>To answer your question why one should learn more then one language - to understand, communicate and culturally and intellectually uplift yourself.
Absolutely. Also why one should try and live for a period in a foreign country. You can never really understand your own country, people, and language until you've experienced another.
>>78670869
meant for
>>78669800
>>78668990
Really? Why?
>>78670423
Oh boy, first of all: Why not German? It is influential, has many movies, TV productions, books, and would also help understand Dutch, Danish, Swedish.
Second, Arabic is pretty complicated. It takes a month or so to figure out the writing system, and then half a year of grammar to be able to use a dictionary as you have to find out root consonants and filter out prefixes, suffixes and infixes.
Hebrew should be easier. It has an easy alphabet and is a modern constructed language on top of an old vocabulary. There's probably also many resources out there to learn it as Israel is still an immigration country.
>>78670606
>Croat
>subhuman languages from the Balkans (Serbia, Bosnia, Monteniggers).
kek
>>78670970
>german movies
Goodbye Lenin best movie 2kever
>>78670931
Because you'll be having a normal conversation then before you know it you casually slip "GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW NATSOC THREAD DROPPING" into the mix ;).
But nah seriously 4chan will definitely help you with learning slang and colloquial language as well.
I speak German, but heavily regret taking the time to learn it. Can someone please justify my actions?
>>78670284
What helped me with understanding Spanish speaker was the fact that I worked with a lot of them at my old job. At first it was just all fast paced gibberish. But as the months passed I guess my brain got use to it, and I could understand them.
Though I still have trouble with different types of speakers. I'm used to a Colombian accent, so when I met somebody from Peru I couldn't understand 70% of what he was saying.
Makes me wonder how different the dialect in Spain sounds from the ones in SA. I intend to visit Spain soon, and i'm a little nervous about if my Spanish will be good enough to communicate with the locals.
>>78670902
Pretty much, yeah. They tend to avoid elements found 'tricky' for each other though.
I've not really looked at them so I don't know much about them.
>>78670759
>German remains a major language in Namibia
I'm surprised. I thought they were de-colonializing all old place names etc. But I guess the farmers still speak German or Afrikaans, and that holds some influence.
>"Fotzkopf!"
LOL. The Dutch seem very creative when inventing new bad names for people. Just follow any old nederdraad on /pol/ or on /int/.
Is /pol/ now /int/ without the generals?
>>78670970
OK, I will admit it's a pretty faggy reason, but I just don't like how German sounds. I know how I operate, if I don't feel any initial pull towards the language, I'm going to drop it no matter how useful it might be. I'll sooner learn Magyar. (Which I might actually attempt at some point in my life because I unironically think it is beautiful.)
I am not afraid of complicated writing systems. I don't think I'll ever encounter anything worse than Japanese in this regard, so there's that. I also like challenges.
Probably yes, but as I said, that isn't what matters to me. I'll just see what I like. And all my professors who are going to teach me the basics are native speakers, so if I want resources, I'll just ask them. That shouldn't be a problem.
>>78670970
>Oh boy, first of all: Why not German? It is influential, has many movies, TV productions, books, and would also help understand Dutch, Danish, Swedish.
That is true. As I said, because I can speak German fluently and English, I've learned Dutch relatively quickly. But more thanks to German.
Secondly, German language was spoken and was the main administrative language in a big number of countries. In Croatia for example, during the Austro-Hungarian monarchy, German was spoken and taught as a primary language in Croatian schools, and almost every educated Croat could speak German. German language is/was used in Croatia, Slovenia, Hungary, Austria, Switzerland, Poland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Czech Republic, Slovakia, and almost every other country which was in the Austrian Empire or which had a big German minority. If you visit eastern Croatia, you can still see street names, names of hotels, restaurants, shops written in German. Also, besides English, German is a mandatory in highschools and universities. I had German also in Gymnasium.
>>78670931
4chan jargon is very different from normal english.
>>78671095
>>Croat
>>subhuman languages from the Balkans
the languages there are shit (including Croatian)
>>78671097
All my english scores went up since i start reading 4chan. Teacher told us to read things in english, classmates chose books and other thing like that. They do not know best way. I also have opportunity to learn about things like brexit and can make fun of smelly japs
>>78670606
Cyrillic handwriting is one part of your Yugo-speak I've not learned. Fucking 'šišmiš' looks like a row of 'u's. Anyway I don't like serbia as much as croatia and bosnia so fuck it.
>>78666037
I can lend you my cock, it will sounds like you are a true native
Learning Russian because them Russian girls are fine as hell.
>>78671338
This is a pretty /int/-tier thread but I guess it belongs if people would banter the shit out of certain languages or nations for political reasons, like these:
>>78664498
>>78664827
>>78671497
Jargon? Meaning?
>>78671632
>Cyrillic handwriting is one part of your Yugo-speak I've not learned
I learned it thanks to serbian TV. When I was little we had signal from Banja Luka TV, and they had good movies every saturday, but they were all subtitled in cyrillic, so thanks to my english skills, I knew how to relate the engish words into the cyrilic words below on the screen. So I memorized the letters and today I can write in cyrilic no problem.
Japanese cuz mai Japanese waifu
>>78664388
I learn italian because I'm a lazy fuck.
I will probably try to learn spanish too since USA will become a speaking one during my lifetime.
>>78671477
OK, I understand. Having fun is probably what you need most to keep at it when learning voluntarily.
German pronounciation isn't hard, btw. We write the way we speak, there are only very few exceptions, like -tion is pronounced "-tsion", eu/äu are pronounced "oj", and sch is š. The Grammar is more complicated than English, but less than Slavic languages.
>>78667592
>back when the world was fun.webm
That video would make your average leftist fucking lose their minds.
>>78671887
Jargon is the way language is used by a group of people (subculture, profession etc) that is incomprehensible to the general populace. Chanspeak has a lotta words that normies wont understand and chan culture is really relaxed about insults and 'offensive' stuff. If you IRL told someone 'kill yourself', 'read a book, nigger' or something like that it would cause a shitstorm. But here its OK
>>78671887
jargon
[jahr-guh n, -gon]
noun
1.
the language, especially the vocabulary, peculiar to a particular trade, profession, or group:
medical jargon.
2.
unintelligible or meaningless talk or writing; gibberish.
Learning Icelandic at the moment due to the fact that my girlfriend is half Icelandic, as such some of her older relatives and her younger cousins etc don't speak English, plus the fact I hate being all touristy when I go out there.
It's a pretty cool language to learn, although the grammar can be fucking mental at times.
>>78672582
>>78672601
4chan jargon <-> regular English
BTFO <-> couldn't care less
It's happening! <-> Nothing's happening at all.
You're retarded! <-> I don't like your opinion.
>>78671187
One of the things that made it extra challenging for me was that my only time spent in a Spanish speaking country (4 months) was in Catalonia - and just as they were becoming particularly nationalistic. So my first couple of months there I'd have random exchanges where I hadn't understood a word and felt my Spanish was appalling - only later did I realise that it was because they weren't speaking Spanish to me but Catalan! Once I'd been there long enough to recognise the difference between the 2 spoken my confidence took slightly less of a battering.
Sounds like you'll be fine in Spain. Think it's the guys around Andalucia that are supposed to have a famously difficult dialect to understand? A couple of useful sites to practice speaking (if you don't already know of them) are italki and verbling - let you set up skype lessons with pro teachers or simple language exchanges with SPanish speakers wanting to learn English. It's what I've used mostly for both German and Spanish, highly recommend.
>>78671245
Yeah they had some great swears but that's the only one I clearly remember. Given it was largely English speaking environment you'd get them mixing the languages as well. That instance was a bunch of us (2-3 Afrikaaners mixed in) doing some maintenance on a vehicle and suddenly you here one of them shouting out "ACH MANN, DU FUCKING FOTZKOPF!"
>>78673853
>It's happening! <-> Nothing's happening at all.
>>78671589
>>78671589
That's good mate. Definitely learn easier and more natural English on forums like this than just using textbooks. I always found comic books pretty good for practicing reading comprehension+adding vocab too.
>>78673988
LOL.
Side information: I once read that there's a measurable body response when swearing under stress. It actually helps you relax a little.
>>78674221
Swearing fixed Samuel L. Jackson's stutter as a kid according to him.
>>78664388
Trying to learn Russian. The Cyrillic alphabet was easy to pick up, had it memorized in a day, but motivating myself to continually practice the language is much more difficult.
>>78674333
Tell me more mate
>>78674658
>Growing up, Jackson stuttered, tripping over different letters and words on different days. Recently, he explained what has helped him to (mostly) overcome the stuttering, and humorously the profanity will probably remind fans of Die Hard with a Vengeance and/ or Pulp Fiction. The secret word is: motherfucker.
>Jackson has been known to use language of that ilk and he recently spoke out to relate his story about overcoming stuttering at the American Institute for Stuttering gala. While his stuttering has gotten a lot better since the days he had major troubles growing up in Tennessee in the 1950s, there are still days where stuttering is an issue for the 64-year-old actor.
>"I was the other day on the set of Captain America, and they said 'Action!" and I said, 'G-g-g-et ...' It was a G day. So I have my days. I have G days, I have P days, I have B days, I have S days, and I'm still stuttering. But I figured out a way to do it. And some days, the best thing for me to do is say my favorite word, and I get through it: 'Motherfucker!'"
>The story seems as if it may be a little more anecdotal than something Jackson regularly practices, but thanks to some clever sleuthing by Vulture, it seems “motherfucker” is really and truly Jackson’s go-to word when he begins to stutter.
>"I do that. Every day. I say it and it helps, like even if I just say it to myself, under my breath. I don't stutter when I say that word."
>Using “motherfucker” as a stutter helper actually makes sense. That word has a lot of annoyance and aggression wrapped up in it and if a person can relieve a little of those feelings with a word as goofy as that one, the situation probably becomes more amusing than annoying and can hopefully help a person to move forward.
>>78664388
I always wanted to learn Finnish for some reason. I can speak Polish very well, which by the way is not an automatically granted trait even when you are born in Poland, and I can speak English to a fairly good degree as well. The Polish educational system tried to force German upon me, but that did not work out as planned. All I remember from the German language are simple phrases, and singular words.
Picture not related.
>>78665469
>Romania
Lmao nao
>>78675424
>From what little ive read about the polish language it appears there are a few dialects almost distinct enough from standard polish to be another language? Would love to learn polish but as you implied, for an english speaker it would require moving to poland and trial by fire to become conversational imo.
>>78676684
unintentional greentext obviously
>>78674171
Yes many classmates don't understand contractions but i do :)
>>78676684
Probably.
There are almost incomprehensible dialects in every major language. German for example has subtitles when Swiss German is spoken. I've seen subtitles on Dutch TV when they interviewed a guy that lived close to the German border. (He was speaking lowlands German, which is pretty close to Dutch, but apparently not the same thing.)
It get's better, though. TV and radio have spread the standard dialect everywhere, and in the big cities there's a large percentage of people who had to move because of their job, they speak the standard language. Dialect is mostly heard in the country.
And there's no learning books for dialects. Although I must confess I've seen a German language guide for Bavarian. ("Like German, the Bavarian has three genders: male, female and neutral......")
>>78671906
Surely the subtitles would be normal, printed cyrillic? This I can read and write, but cursive is different, and a bit weird to my eye, not all letters have any obvious similarity to their printed counterpart.
>>78664388
lol what are you a boomer? i speak 3 language what are you doing on 4chan if you dont know japanese?
>>78668550
Latin masterrace.
Also interested in ancient Greek but can't find a lot of resources compared to Latin
>>78676684
The wielkopolski dialect is the one you want to learn. It's the one used for official matters, and the one taught in schools all over the country. No matter where you go, people will always understand the wielkopolski dialect. If you understand their dialects, however, will always be in doubt.
The małopolski, and mazowiecki dialects aren't too different from the wielkopolski one. The śląski dialect is understandable, and the rest, like the kaszubski, and północno/południowokresowy dialects, are extremely rarely used outside of their areas. The three last dialects are the ones you described as ,,distinct enough from polish to be another language''.
Overall, just learn the basic wielkopolski polish. I don't think there even are courses for other dialects outside of Poland.
>>78668550
Learn Old Azeri. Please.
It died recently. It should be easy enough to revive it if we can find and compile materials.
>>78665865
rude
>>78678168
mixed dialects in exgerman territory, lol
>>78664388
Is there any material about PIE worth considering?
I know it's a reconstructed "language", but it'd be nice to get back to the roots.
>>78679124
You can call us njemjetskij all you like, we still speak out.
>>78679169
There are groups trying to do stuff with it, there are even people trying to make a PIE language.
It's all conjecture though, ultimately. It may never be accurate. This happened with the Passion of the Christ's Aramaic. Aramaic speakers found the Aramaic weird and alien. It didn't sound like Aramaic to them.
If interested in "Modern Indo-European":
http://dnghu.org/Indo-European-Language-Europe/
>>78664388
Why Danish? I speak it of course, but that's because I have ties to Denmark. Why would you ever need it?
>>78679295
nope, youre mute
>>78679464
RARE
Do you have your own language? How is life there?
>>78679464
To move to a country that is still pretty white, that still serves pork and potato in cafeterias even when muslims might get offended. To move to a country that is similar in culture and has much of the same social values.
>>78680100
Why not stay in Germany and retake it?
>>78679946
Yeah we speak Faroese. Life is good here, good living standard.
>>78680100
lol Denmark has around 5% Muslims and it's probably going to rise fast in the future. Inger Stojberg and the Danish People's Party seem to be the only ones keeping Denmark Danish
Learnt French in school because it really does give you the ability to learn every other romance language. I really want to learn Russian just because it's a little different but Cyrillic is a pain in my arse. Might settle for Polish
>>78680320
That is option number one, and Danish is plan B.
>>78666219
Probably Wanikani (for vocabulary), Tae Kim's guide (if you are a jew), or Genki (used in colleges)
learning my 20th language.
im still a teen.
>>78680491
>Cyrillic is a pain in my arse
Only 32 letters, most of which are Latin or Greek anyway.
>Might settle for Polish
Not much easier to read because of all their sh, tsh, tch, ch sounds.
French, German and Japanese
Why?
Neighboring languages and commerce and weebshit
>>78680493
> If Germany falls I will just move north the border where SJWs are just as bad
Good plan pal, I hope you stick to it and don't actually shit up a good country.
>>78680587
Ayyy look at that sexy flag.
>>78680491
You might regret going for Polish instead of Russian. Learning the cyrillic alphabet requires no effort in comparison to learning, and being able to semi-fluently use, the Polish language.
>>78664388
Objectively, Mandarin
Gastly language, but will be very useful in the future If things continue at this rate.
Was weeb, took 2 years of Japanese in high school. Learned danish, was a vikingboo.
Now learning latin, b/c romaboo
>>78681126
will take forever to learn
>>78681054
Well russian and polish are pretty similar
>>78667682
Wow, she has great breasts!
>>78681254
That's the thing, I heard "ma" can mean 4 different things in mandarin depending on the context and how it is pronounced.
>>78681314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNIRdvvSbNA
>not learning english and spanish at least
are you guys literally retarded?
>>78680692
>tfw you know cyrillic perfectly, but can't read it anywhere near as fast as Latin
>>78681689
>and spanish
>the flag
Please, elaborate if you don't want to seem puerly subjective.
>>78668313
pee uh
>>78664388
Dutch as a third after taco
Learned german in middle and high school, learned spanish in college and will learn russian for the next 4 years.
My family is german speaking Czechs (yes there are sudetes left) and moved to usa in the the 80s. But fuck that
>>78680587
But
a) which languages?
b) how fluent are you?
>>78664388
>he isn't quad lingual
Dutch, german, french and english.
I could study spanish too
What's the best way to learn languages, paid or free?
>>78665155
How?
>>78682626
Paid classes are best.
You can use a lot of materials from online, though.
Duolingo
Mondly (you can get it free still)
Memrise (like Anki)
Clozemaster (similar to Memrise)
Babadum (flashcards)
Hellolingo (chat)
Don't bother with Rosetta Stone unless you want to piss yourself off. It's just glorified flashcards. Even torrenting it is worthless.
Also radio, blog posts, news articles, and TV if possible. As much exposure as possible.
>>78682398
Spanish, English, Papiamento (and papiamentu if that also counts), French, German, Filipino and Tagalog (which is nearly the same thing), Esperanto, Russian, Portuguese ,Japanese, Dutch, Afrikaans, Italian,Some Mandarin, Some Modern Standard Arabic,Swedish, Hebrew and some Yiddish.
>>78665135
>Esperanto
>>78682898
I disagree. Rosetta stone if done right teaches you to have conversations it's just most people memorize the words instead of thinking about how to construct their own set emcee.
It's not good by any means but it's fanatic to expand vocabulary.
How long would it take a English speaker to learn another language fluently such as French or Spanish with daily practice through the use of Duolingo?
>>78683432
Duolingo needs to be turned up to hard to get anything done with it.
>>78683391
You can learn the same shit from Duo, some Memrise courses, Mondly, Pimsleur, Michel Thomas, Assimil and so on though.
You don't need all of the useless bloat that comes with RS. Not to mention they've destroyed two other companies: LiveMocha and SharedTalk.
They're cunts who wipe out opposition.
>>78682626
You'll need to mix both of those methods. It's good to get introduced into a language with a paid method, and then to expand your abilities by exposing yourself to the native-speakers's content, and best if subtitled. If you need more help, you pay for explanations again.
Problems might arise when you can't find enough content in a desired language in order to expose yourself to it. The only other option then would be to move to the damn place.
>>78683432
Pretty easy, my advice as someone who can speak pretty fluent French but only got a C in GCSE is watch lots of foreign films and listen to the music. Before long you'll pick up the vast majority needed for everyday conversation
>>78683048
>>78682398
I'm self taught in most languages, obviously i'm different levels of fluent in each language.
>>78683334
Esperanto is a good language to learn, you could learn it in less than a month and helps you learn other languages.
>>78683048
And how good are you at all of them?
How do you learn them?
