Redpill me on Brexit. I'm a stupid American who knows nothing. I only know that Olly was against it, so it's a good thing, but what does it really mean?
It means the UK has a great deal more independence in self-governing. The most significant issue is economic, but probably the issue that got most people to vote for it is that the UK doesn't have to accept so many refugees and immigrants just because Merkel says so.
>>78651874
damn this fucker aged badly
>>78652137
his entire argument was basically "the people who support it are racist"
>>78652107
Oh, so they may be able to start pushing back?
That's great news!
>>78651874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8EyHGxd4P4
Lots of things will need to be restructured: trade, travel, and law.
>>78651874
It means they're selling us down the river to russia again by making europe weak and divided.
>>78652137
Because of shit like this I really thought remain would win via media influence, fear and propaganda. How the fuck leave actually won I'll never know, I guess the working class all voted and outweighed the liberal SJW vote.
>>78652402
Yes
This royal throne of kings, this scepter'd isle,
This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars,
This other Eden, demi-paradise,
This fortress built by Nature for herself
Against infection and the hand of war,
This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall,
Or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands,
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England,
This nurse, this teeming womb of royal kings,
Fear'd by their breed and famous by their birth,
Renowned for their deeds as far from home,
For Christian service and true chivalry,
As is the sepulchre in stubborn Jewry,
Of the world's ransom, blessed Mary's Son,
This land of such dear souls, this dear dear land,
Dear for her reputation through the world,
Is now leased out, I die pronouncing it,
Like to a tenement or pelting farm:
England, bound in with the triumphant sea
Whose rocky shore beats back the envious siege
Of watery Neptune, is now bound in with shame,
With inky blots and rotten parchment bonds:
That England, that was wont to conquer others,
Hath made a shameful conquest of itself.
But that's now at an end.
The UK stood up for herself.
>>78652471
That's right, to compete with Russia we must become like them, all following one supreme leader like Putin. Let's forget about dumb stuff like national sovereignty.
>>78652599
What I find really funny is how the working class are being snubbed by papers now as "low-income voters". The left talks about fighting for the oppressed against the greedy "1%" all the time, but when the oppressed do it for themselves, they're snubbed.
The EU is an authority governed by no democratic process. It is a globalist experiment in consolidation of power. It should not exist and this is the first step to ensuring that it doesn't.
>>78652599
They shot their load too hard and too quickly. You can shame a lot of people into doing a lot of things by calling them racist but it was a secret vote and shaming only works for so long, in the end you only harden resistance.
>>78652137
(((rosenfeld)))
>>78652471
Why would Putin care about this? I keep seeing this buzzphrase. Putin wants sanctions lifted, unless this affects that, he doesn't care. It's not like NATO breaking up.
>>78652107
>the UK doesn't have to accept so many refugees and immigrants just because Merkel says so
The fuck bruh, the UK was mudslime central way before Merkel
>>78652779
Don't forget uneducated as well as being low-income!
To be fair, I am poor and don't have a degree in identity studies.
>>78652222
In case you didn't notice, he is drunk all the time.
>>78652953
But not before the EU, which Merkel happens to be somewhat of the leader of currently.
Certainly, London was always multicultural, but now the Cockney accent is about to go extinct according to estimates, and they have a Muslim mayor. It's a whole new level.
>>78652874
The sanctions might get lifted as an indirect result of this, but it also depends on who's voted in as the next American president.
It's all a giant clusterfuck until the whole Brexit shit is sorted anyway.
>>78652953
Indians aren't the same as (((refugees)))
>>78652983
That too.
But if it was the other way around, and they won because of the lower class, it would be a "victory against oppression".
>>78652599
Meme magic, friend. You can't keep denying it.
>>78652874
This killed the anti-Russian alliance in the EU. Cameron was the major anti-Russian force within the big three France-UK-Germany, now the Big three are France,Italy Germany and they are all pro Russia to various degrees. Nobody actually listens to butthurt belt.
>>78652779
This vote seems completely backwards for the left and right - the left clearly voted for the establishment here, while maintaining the guise of fighting "for the people" (aka "muh poor oppressed immigrants" who will be largely unaffected by this anyway). I think the left has become more about race these days than actual politics.
>>78652137
Isn't John Oliver a literally who in the UK?
>>78653442
>A new UK not antagonistic to Russia
>>78653547
Am Brit, can confirm.
Had no fucking idea who this guy was before I read this thread.
Seem like a tosser.
>>78651874
I came to /pol/ yesterday expecting the right wing people to be an example of hate and ignorance.
I was surprised to find literally hundreds of screenshots exhibiting the ignorance and oppressive nature of left wing idiots.
I understand a deal of this is cherry picking, but fuck look that this shit.
So well done /pol/ you have impressed me. You somehow manage to be less hateful and stupid then the people who are over the top liberal.
And for the record, I am somewhat in the middle politically and voted leave.
>>78653161
>Certainly, London was always multicultural, but now the Cockney accent is about to go extinct according to estimates, and they have a Muslim mayor. It's a whole new level.
None of those is a result of the EU policies. I suppose you can blame Polacks, Romanians, and others for settling in, but they are a finite number with Eastern European birth rates taking a nosedive and still are less numerous than non-EU born British residents.
One of the promises of Leave campaigners was that they are going to be able to get more immigrants from the Commonwealth instead of the EU once they leave. I suppose it was to boost the Paki and Pajeet vote for Brexit and they might always go back on it, but certain regions in England were on their way to caliphate way before the first rapefugee arrived in Germany.
>>78653820
>>78653544
The left has become about "micropolitics"--as in, "How are women represented in video games?" and "Why aren't white girls dating minorities more?" Things that can't be addressed by actual policy.
>>78653547
The poster is an American. John Oliver's piece on Brexit couldn't even air in the UK until after the vote
>>78653943
>None of those is a result of the EU policies.
It's a result of the refugee crisis, which the EU has chosen how to deal with.
>>78654045
My personal favorite
>>78651874
Don't listen to these blue pilled 12 year olds.
It's just a meme story to cover up shemitah. /pol/ is not red pilled. They eat up every single mainstream story like any typical goy
>>78654045
I assume this is in reference to something?
Link?
>>78654262
to him in general
>>78654262
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/come-on-it-s-2015-current-year
>>78654135
>things that were in motion for 30+ years and have nothing to do with the EU, but with former British colonies are a results of 2010s refugee crisis
>>78654547
Are you denying that the refugee crisis has lead to a massive increase in immigration?
Living in a Leave constituency while I voted Remain.
I'm a 22 year old, just graduated and debating if to do my masters in Economics.
Firstly, both campaigns have been absolute shit. The Leave campaign resorted to lying and fallacies in order to convince voters, as well as implying they would promise to spend the money we send to the EU Budget would be spent domestically. One of the Leave's adverts was a picture of a map, highlighting Turkey and mentioning it's population.
You also had the several NHS adverts on the Leave campaign which basically painted it as a dystopian nightmare if we remain in the EU for any moment longer.
Now the Remain campaign was just lack lustre as they couldn't decide how to convince voters how to consider remaining. Their leaflets didn't highlight any significant points like the Leave campaign attempted to do. Basically the Remain campaign just handed out paper saying "more jobs if we stay in EU", which is technically true, but so vague.
I'm disheartened not by the fact we're leaving a political and economical union which gave more benefits than costs, but it's the fact that the Leave campaign managed to convince the demos with absolute half baked lies.
Either way, if you're in the UK right now, we'll have to deal with Scotland and Ireland, a new PM, more expensive goods (we import a fair chunk of perishable FMCG from Europe) and that Heineken is gonna be a tad more expensive because "muh sovereignty" & "fukkin brown people"
>>78654218
but doesn't he kinda have a point here?
>>78654826
He conveniently didn't consider the possibility of white people fucking whites.
>>78654655
>a majority of the country votes to change something they don't like
Oh my God, how dare they?! Now we have to work to build a better future instead of maintaining status quo!
>>78653918
Nice blogpost you faggot. Nobody cares about you or your moronic political leanings.
>>78654218
This one makes me legit mad, and not because of the paris attack. He's so full of shit but HE KNOWS his audience is eating it up. He gets to have that smug look for spreading blatant misinformation while I have to watch my words just in case I accidentally get "to real." Fuck this gay earth, man. John Olly McFuckedteeth will die a horrible death if I have to do it myself.
>>78654617
Not to England.
Top countries for the current wave of "refugees" are Germany and Sweden still, and on the way they shit up coastal countries like Greece and Italy, which may or may not change depending on what the EU does about it, if anything.
Most of those who wanted to get to the UK are still stuck in Calais.
Britain was enriched way before the EU got any say. Not denying that not being bound by the EU regulations will stop slav immigration and save them from the possible influx of current rapefugees with euro passports 10 or 20 years down the line, but unless they go full wall + ethnic cleansing, but they're still fucked with their Muslim population.
>>78652983
I am fairly low income, I voted out, but I do have a degree (in History, hence the low income, study STEM kids)
>>78655098
>Casually ignored the fact that I stated the Leave campaign have been twisting the facts, and even the £350 million which Nigel had to dumbed down to £10 million on Question time
Never change /pol/
>>78655142
Calm down, Brexit passed
Brexit passed
The tide is turning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9zP59_98s8
>>78652107
This was an argument of the brexiters but it's not true
>>78655574
It absolutely is true, if you take people as citizens, the UK has to allow them full access.
>>78654655
Sovereignty is a good argument famalam you miss it pretty soon when it's gone. Give it a few weeks everything will be fine, different but fine.
>>78655706
Nope
>people in this thread being gullible as fuck
You do realize there have been quite a few EU related referenda where people voted "No" to EUSSR bullshit but all of them were either redone until they had the wanted result or just ignored?
>>78655839
Not this one. This is serious
>>78655827
Yes, the EU has open labor movement.
Once again you remainers resort to an argument that boils down to "you're stupid" followed by an appeal to authority.
You don't address the position that the EU is an irreparably poor implementation of a possibly laudable concept, beginning with the lack of direct accountability of appointed EC commissioners and bookended by the infeasibility of monetary union without fiscal union.
Don't you think such ad hominem aspersions smack of veiled elitism? Isn't it possible that perhaps people understood the remainers arguments perfectly and simply didn't find them particularly compelling or believable? Furthermore, rather than blaming 52% of British voters, isn't the EU's failure to retain the second largest European economy an axiomatic indictment of its own dysfunction?
>>78655839
Let me know when there is one where the prime minister resigns within an hour.
>>78655839
I don't think they were about being in or out the EU. France and Holland voted no to the Constitution and I believe Ireland voted against the Lisbon Treaty. That said I am not 100%sure of the facts on this.
>>78656035
>second largest European
>3rd
>MFW pensioners who won't even be around in 20 years sealed Britons faith
>>78656160
Once again, ad hominem. You didn't address a single point. All you did was shout "stupid old people".
>>78655328
Do you work at game?
>>78652137
>>78656160
DUDE OLD PEOPLE LMAO
>>78655964
not entirely true
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:EjBOXH2ZRLcJ:www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2c669fd4-e054-11e5-9217-6ae3733a2cd1.html+&cd=1&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de
>>78656679
Don't anger Bob Chipman.
>>78654218
>French people didn't know how to reproduce until the New Moors taught them how
>>78653918
Enjoy your first dose of the redpill, it'll only get worse from here.
>>78651874
That man controls your way of thinking that much?
>>78651874
It's a good thing for them. Kike billionaires are getting rekt;
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-24/world-s-400-richest-people-lose-127-billion-on-brexit-chart
massive butthurt from the regressive left and its harder for rapefugees to get in.
>>78652874
You're either too stupid to be out on the Internet without an escort, or you're a Moscow shill.
Fracturing the EU and making chaos is Russia's unicorn wet dream. A unified Europe is what's keeping Russia in Russia.
Seriously, anon. You're too fucking stupid to be walking around without a keeper. Get off the fucking Internet.
>>78657249
>Muh spooky Russian boogeyman
Fuck off shill
>>78652137
>Rosenfeld
>>78657249
NATO is what keeps Russia in Russia, not the EU, Mr. Soros.
>>78654262
Yeah, it's called lurking.
>>78651874
>Olly was against it
hah no surprise there, that cunt should go hang himself
do we invest in UK money to turn a profit once it's all over?
Even if some Britbongs hate burgers I am happy that you guys officially started the revolution against bureaucracy
>>78656863
kek
>>78657249
Yes, that's right, all those Russians bombing and shooting up nightclubs. I mean it's not as if they were actively fighting a demonstrably clear and present common danger, right?
You need to stop being fucking stupid. I don't care who is paying you, or how you came to have such incredibly brainwashed worldview, it's time to grow up and admit who the real enemies are and recognize the real existential threats to our civilization. Stop being willfully blind and stop the cognitive dissonance.
>>78657840
If you are going to invest, do it now. Things are either going to go downhill for a very long time or return to almost normal in which case investing will be no better than it was a week ago
>>78653075
Drunk with power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juFxBhDSK9s
Look at how he treats a head of state.
>>78651874
brexit = $=0
>>78652874
Cute to see Americans who think they are still in the cold war.
>>78651874
EU is basically NATO but for economy. It's western Europe gibing free money to eastern Europe so they don't have to deal with Russia. Since Bongland left a large part of the pot will be missing. So USA will have to pay the bill because they don't want Eastern Europe to be in the russian sphere of influence.
>>78658427
Its also a free market between all member nations with industry standards that apply to all members
there is nothing wrong with using current year arguements
>>78654655
You're the worst kind of cuck.
>>78658287
I don't think most of us on /pol/ do, but that is absolutely how the media paints it here.
>>78652471
Fuck off, faggot
>>78658287
We have a serious problem with our education institutions churning out under-educated clowns who are incapable of critical thought.
>>78658427
How the hell would any American government agree to pay into the EU fund? Have you lost your mind?
>>78658609
He's objectively correct though. The only real issue here is if you consider the damage to britains economy and international influence a worthwhile tradeoff for increased sovereignty. I'm sure many do, but the fact is there is no way Britain is going to better economically out of the Eu than it would in it
>>78658741
>the fact is there is no way Britain is going to better economically out of the Eu than it would in it
Source on this fact?
The guys who made the Brexit documentary painted a different picture
>>78651874
It means that the UK will have to pay slightly more than they do now to gain access to the market (EEA EFTA fees are the same than for normal members but there's no rebate). It means that the UK will still have to implement the vast majority of laws made in Brussels, but will have no influence what so ever in their making. It means, that stupidity won.
>>78659095
The fact that the EU accounts for half of all of britains trade, and britain is not going to get a better deal on it now than they were before
>>78652599
"Stay" was supported overwhelming by young people who don't turn out for elections. That's why you can't trust polls with a huge age divide, one of the reasons Bernie lost here.
>>78659095
>Falling for literal propaganda
>>78658083
What should I be investing in?
>>78659230
>>78659095
And since I notice I didnt give a source for that either https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2050.html#uk
>>78659438
No idea, ask /biz/
>>78659182
I guess the ones that voted to leave thought it was better to die broke and free rather than die with a sand nigger dick in their asses because people should be more tolerant of a sub human species that has offered what exactly in the last how many years?
>>78654655
>> EU painted as a dystopian nightmare
Right cause it's totally not.
>>78658741
No he's not. Not one objective fact was used by either him or you. You simply assert that "leaving will be bad".
Additionally, you utterly fail to account for the economic flexibility gained from national sovereignty, especially given how grossly mismanaged the EU has demonstrably proven itself to be.
Absurd regulatory morass, an unworkable monetary union due to lack of fiscal union and dysfunctional bureaucrats unable to manage a migrant crisis, where exactly is the upside? That if they give it just a bit more time it will all work out?
We see the prototype of the one-world government, and we find it unworkable. Now fuck-off, you've lost.
>>78659373
>literal propaganda
What is not propaganda though?
>>78659518
Its funny because the immigrants arent going to stop
>>78659481
thanks m8
>>78659643
Half of all of britains trade is with the EU, and all of it is without tariff. There are no better deals to be had. EU membership has increased british trade with europe by 55% while not impacting foreign trade
Honestly I think that if the EU holds itself together for the next year or two then brexit will be good for them, since Britain has always been the "awkward member" of the union
>>78659658
Maybe, but at least they fucking tried rather than the EU bowing down to an enemy that at multiple times tried to erase them from the globe all because of people should be nice to each other.
Live free or die on your knees. And it's not a popular saying because it sounds cool.
>>78653547
he was a failed comedian in the UK who could barely survive doing shitty standup, so he moved to america where everyone fell in love with him because of his accent
>>78658529
Restrictions and regulations kill that though and keep it small for smaller businesses, thats why mostly big companies profit from it.
Not to mention, alot of export and inport comes from Asia and the US, the EU's free market for all member nations doesn't mean jack shit in that case.
>>78654826
No.
There will be French people in French who don't have an ant-birth culture that the lefts have.
The population will fall but France will live on.
BUT, if they flood the country with the 3rd world it means these future french will be a minority in a 3rd world country.
And minorities in 3rd world countries get murdered. If the Western world falls because of the lack of Europeans then it will kill that 10-20% left French in France.
>>78659518
I don't know if Brexit was sold with "no more immigrants from camel countries", but IRL UK leaving/staying in the EU has nothing to do with that.
>>78659658
Even if it ultimately ends up being a symbolic gesture it's the closest any county has come to standing up to the multinationals.
>>78659839
I tend to agree. It just remains to be seen whether the damage will be light enough to justify it.
>>78660082
They dont really, regulation and standardisation enables the common market to be exist. Its a total myth that it results in a net loss
>>78659802
I've got to agree, something like Brexit was always a possibility if the EU got into some calamity. Britain leaving the union should be seen as the canary in the coal mine, certainly not a good sign for the EU, but it's not time to proclaim the end times yet.
>>78660544
I feel like the union is on a knife edge at the moment, theres a very real chance it will collapse completely, but if it holds together the whole thing will be stronger
If you got an hour ahead of you :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqzcqDtL3k
>>78652137
This is right is most aspects, but the real reason is that most of us can see how the EU is turning into a Franco-German hegemony.
We want no part of that.
Also we don't wish for foreigners to be able to veto our laws. It's a matter of national sovereignty.
I'm half Brit/New Zealander. I'm dual nationality, and now we can trade freely wheras under the EU this was supressed.
When UK joined the EU in the early 70s, it was a great idea - simply free trade between European nations without tariffs and red tape.
It has morphed into a federal state. We want no part of that.
This is a great explanation, and I strongly recommend it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqzcqDtL3k
>>78660712
The USA is proof that a country can survive if it's broken away. On one side, you have the colonies that didn't want to get away from England, on the other you had the ones that did.
We fought a war over it and some years later a civil war.
This won't be the first time England has had this in their faces.
>>78652779
Well look how quick they were to turn on the gays and play the religion of peace game in Orlando
>>78653544
If Hillary wins, I'll lose all faith in this country's future. Electing people based on gender/race will officially be the priority over policy/content of character. Then it's really a fucking reality TV show circus, and it's incredible how reality TV being fake and scripted is a huge NORMIES meme, but Hillary is way more fake and scripted than fucking Donald Trump
>>78651874
tbqh I only voted leave to:
>exact ultimate revenge on millennials
>remind the world that the white man is willing and able to scorch the entire fucking planet if it feels sufficiently threatened
think we can safely say that both objectives have been completed :^)
>>78654218
>thinking all skeletons are bad
fucking racist cunt. liberal cocksucker isn't even subtle about his hypocrisy. #notallskellies
>>78661198
US revolution and brexit are barely comparable, but even so england is in no danger of actually collapsing, unless it somehow decides to go full isolationist. It will just have a some degree weaker economy and less global influence than it did before.
As for the EU, as I said, it is facing a genuine threat of collapse, but I am of the opinion that the britain itself is a bad thing for the EU, so should the EU survive it will be better off
>>78653547
The only people who watch this type of stuff here are the one who consider themselves experts on US politics and they are most likely voting to remain anyway.
>>78661388
Only time will tell. I'm hoping for the best for both sides. Except sand niggers. Fuck them.
>>78656160
Kids are dumb and impulsive, and lack the experience to have truly nuanced views of the world.
Democracy as a whole is a dysgenic and dyscivic shit show, but democracy where women, people under the age of 40, and basically anyone else who is not a land owning white male get to vote is like the difference between rolling down hill and driving a flaming motor cycle off a cliff.
>>78661709
Indeed. UK is my countries dad and all my ancestry comes from there, so I dont want things to go bad for them
>Brits always dissatisfied
>decades of blaming every problem on EU
>nagging intensifies
>nobody in Brussels can stand listening to Brits anymore
>unheard nagging results in Brexit
>no more nagging in Brusssls, Brits have to grow up and take responsibility for themselves now
>>78653547
They have their own even more annoying version of him that day "oi, it's the current bong"
>>78654655
Heineken? a tad more expensive? n-noo...NOOOOO. TREASON. OUTRAGE
>>78656789
>>78656679
Is that Bob "Good Night Whitey" Chipman?
>>78662686
Germany you really can't talk look how cucked your country is your almost as cucked as Sweden.
>>78651874
Well that shitposting Turk was right about one thing he really does have beady eyes
>>78664444
No, it takes extra special retardedness, probably through a lack of sunrays or something in the drinking water, to reach a Swedish level of full cuckedness.
>>78653918
>Donald Trump must be licking his lips
I don't get it, but it sounds out of place and retarded, I laughed.
Anyone can tell why it is racist to vote for leave? Why do someone post stuff like that, doesn't BREXIT just mean UK wants nothing to do with EU and not a racial thing and has nothing to do with being scared and being old and racist?
>Took a huge step and wanting to do what they want on their own, with no security net
>Scared
>>78665210
Its because people are voting leave because they think it will stop immigration
>>78665264
What is it with lefties and their priority with gender, race and sexual orientation. I actually hope it stops immigration, or at least make it harder for them to spread their peaceful religion.
>>78664444
Checked.
>>78665728
In this case its the nationalists who are concerned about race, insofar as they dont want non-european immigration
Can someone tell me other reasons the UK left? Obviously they left because of so called "refugees" being forced to enter the UK due to Merkel. But what about how the farmers of the UK were being treated, the working class?
>>78665991
Good for them
>>78666885
Sure, but thats why they are being accused of racism
>>78656160
>>78652599
Because it's extremely easy to make right decisions once you figure out the basics.
Like OP said, he knew that John Oliver was against it, that's why he knew it's a good thing.
I think a lot of people have figured out by now that the right thing is the complete opposite of what "they" tell you to do.
>>78666255
Nearly all farmers and fishers were in favour of brexit.
Other reasons:
Retarded bureaucracy
Having our fish stolen
Paying £20 billion (though we 'generously' get given £6 billion of that back) a year for no say (in 40 years years total of zero referendums have gone the UKs way when we opposed it)
Totally undemocratic group, they are not elected, the EUSSR is more accurate 5han people realise
People coming over here to live on benefits
European army which we want no part of considering only we out of the entire EU meet the agreed NATO military spending, why should we hand our armed forces over to Brussels when nobody else in the union is up to standard
More that I can't think of
>>78667574
do you mean (((they)))?
>>78652855
>not understanding that the guy was making a joke about John Oliver and his retarded followers
>>78654826
Eh, a lower population isn't the end of the world and only baby boomers are the ones shouting about who will pay their pensions.
Population decrease might even be beneficial considering the jobs being lost to automation
>>78657249
$0.26 has been deposited into your NATO shill account.
>>78654655
>You also had the several NHS adverts on the Leave campaign which basically painted it as a dystopian nightmare if we remain in the EU for any moment longer.
With the strict lock down on "hate speech" and indoctrination of the youth, it's not too far off. The only major difference in my eyes is that distopias generally have very firm applications of law enforcement, but the opposite is true for the EU where migrants can get away with practically anything. That's simply Anarchy.
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