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every time i look at the catalog its Christian thread after Christian thread. its been this way for months.

"Is there a God?"

"fedoras btfo!!!"

"Christianity will save the west!"

"Dawkins praises Christianity!"

and of course the constant Christian generals

do you people ever get bored of this topic? its not even politically incorrect to be a Christian. Sure, some of the things about homosexuality and gender roles aren't accepted now, but thats also true for any other religion. Infact, almost everything about Christianity thats politically incorrect involves the Old Testiment (The Torah) and not the Gospels. The Torah is where most of the anti-fag verses come from.

The point of this thread isn't to call Christians out for being wrong (even though they are) its to say that its waaay overdone topic on this board at this point.

I know there has always been a Christian presence here but there is just too much of their spam here now.
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>>78629748
>its been this way for months.

Try years
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>>78629748
Just ignore them. Almost all the leading alt-right thinkers are non-christian, post-christian, or atheist.
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Yes, it's very, very politically incorrect to be a Christian. When I opened up about my faith to my friends they stopped talking to me. For me /pol/ is the only place where I can discuss Christianity without talking about denomination just the bible. Also there seems to be a few people here who take the bible literally which I do also so I don't know where else to go to talk to people like that.
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>>78629935
ive noticed a huge pick up in the last few months
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Christians are literal fucking human scum. Complete and utter swill garbage!

Most Christians are brown but let's discuss the white ones. They hate their culture their people their heritage and their forefathers. But most of all they hate Europe and the white men who built it to the very point of the pinnacle.

Fuck you Jew worshipping stupid fucks. It came from Judaism and inturn created Islam. Every Christian Muslim and Jew will be scrubbed from this earth
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>>78630019
>take the bible literally

Please tell me you aren't white?
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>>78630267
Some people say Hungarians are mongols
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>>78629748
>do you people ever get bored of this topic?
Have we gotten bored of the nazis yet?
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>>78630496
the nazis had a lot more to offer the world in terms of knowledge, both moral and scientific, than the Christians do
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>>78630019
>he takes the bible literally

No wonder they stopped talking to you.
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>>78630683
I'm not a Christian just for the fun of it, I truly believe
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>>78630562
That's a damn good joke.
Even not even getting into the details of how you're wrong, you're forgetting that people could disagree with you there and also are justifying an equivalent situation. Clearly we don't tire of topics to the level you think we do.

Stop being upset people are talking about things you don't like.
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>>78630934
my point is that they make all kinds of threads out of proportion with their numbers, most of which only get like 15 posts but they are endless
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>>78629935
Came here just to make this correction. Fpbp
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>>78630019
The Bible isnt meant to be taking literally.
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>>78631052
>my point is that they make all kinds of threads out of proportion with their numbers

What ARE their numbers? I certainly don't have that data.
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>>78630934
Christians
>make a shit religion from some other shit religion and just be lucky enough to be the shit cult chosen by Rome to spread its shit teachings all over the earth.

>nazi Germany's
>make huge technolical advancements.
That right there is not the only thing they did and it's still ten million times more than jud I mean Christianity
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>>78631295
>wolfshiem

You've got to be the dumbest one in those non white Jude generals

It's funny because you just post that stupid Christ anime over and over again. Also everyone in those generals hates your stupid ass
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>>78630019

Most of the Bible obviously is literal. The only things I can think of off the top of my head that aren't is obviously the symbolism used in the book of Revelation and also I wouldn't think the serpent in Genesis is meant to be a literal serpent, other than that I think everything else is clearly meant to be taken as history and did actually happen.
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>>78631295
Says the Murrifart
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>>78630267

That question is weird considering probably about 90-something percent of retarded Creationists and Christians that take the Bible literally are white.

It's hilarious that you guys give such a role to skin tone. A big part of white people are fucking stupid, as are the rest of the races.
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>>78631566
>>78631398
Have a (You)
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>>78629748
Why do you even care christfags are our old tradition and is where the west is build upon and without their morals its seems we plunge in to darkness

>now kek that is the cancer killing /pol/ uh chekum dubs praise mighty kek
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I'd be interested to know why people are saying the Bible isn't to be taken literally. How else would you be meant to take it. It's literally, essentially a historical overview of the Jewish people leading up to the life of the Messiah.
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>>78631242
Yes it is
>>78631573
No I don't believe the serpent is a literal serpent either, because it says God cursed it to crawl so obviously it was different from a snake since it could walk, or fly or maybe even float before God cursed it.
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>>78629748
Yes, Christians are the problem, not all the underage 'kek' posters.
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>>78631398

Fuck off retard.
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I agree. Christ cucks gotta go
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>>78632079
>How else would you be meant to take it
seriously. It is meant to be taken seriously.
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>>78632079
its certainly meant to be taken literally, but modern Christians do not because they don't like the consequences of doing so
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>>78632079
It's hard to accept the truth when you've been fed so many conflicting theories as fact since the first day you enter school.
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>>78632498
I couldn't have said it better myself, sometimes it's hard to follow it, I know I struggle occasionally but the fact is that you just have to have faith and Christ will help you overcome the obstacles you face.
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>>78632079

Because it does not add up with science anymore for a lot of people . When i started believing in god i had one thing on my mind , and that was if god is real the bible is true .
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>>78632248
Mad? You're a shit cult that gained power because it gave women and slaves a voice. Meanwhile men were off doing actual work and honoring their forefathers

You will die with the Muslims and your father Jews
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>>78632225
Fucking heretic, you will never wield meme magic.
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>>78632010
>christfags are our old tradition and is where the west is build upon and without their morals its seems we plunge in to darkness
What is Rome, what is Greece ?

Everything from Christianity is stolen and your ancestors were forced into this woman worshipping slave cult
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>>78629748
>accepting fags and fag culture
dont do it man!
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>>78629748
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vifYelSTlMo
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>>78632887
Rome and Greece collapsed and they had no morals.
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>>78632812
Nor would I want to.

Any form of 'magic' or occultism is an abomination in the sight of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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>>78629748
>"Christianity will save the west!"
It will. Go fuck yourself.
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>>78629748
meh, let them have their threads. If you have to just troll them with Luther.
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Christ is real and you will go to hell unless you repent.

Atheists got to go. Reddit tier world view.
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>>78633136
This, /pol/ worships false gods, prays to idols and tries to perform magic
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>>78632887

if you want to make a thread about your pagan gods go ahead . christfags has been growing for about 2 k years and formed the world we live in today
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>>78633103
They collapsed after accomplishing things never done before in human history. Creating the greatest armies, nations, and cultures. And whose ideas effect the world to this very day.

you deserve to be mutilated
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>>78632079
Ultimately, "taking the bible literally" or even metaphorically shows you have little grasp of the text generally. Most American Protestants (largely from the Revivals that begat evangelicalism in the 19th century) have no grasp of the intellectual tradition in the faith in any respect so you see this dichotomy arise out of their stupidity.

The Bible is a collection of texts of different histories, structures, and most importantly GENRES. Without a study of the context (both in relation to genre and the setting at the time) it's impossible to grasp what text says properly. So obviously to say "take the Bible literally" or "take the Bible metaphorically" means you're going to assume a lot of important elements of a lot of different books at once and pretend like it's a single book. It's pure ignorance.

The historical critical method is what scholars (Christian and otherwise have used to discern the message of the faith properly. The apostolic faith (Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and the Copts) compile the message of the faith in other texts to make it easier to text openly without having to worry about teaching whole narratives and stories to people. The collections of teachings together are called "Catechisms". The apostolic faiths gives classes on their respective Catechisms.

Protestants have some too but you have an in-built focus on the Bible itself and the idea of God helping you read the book for you if you just believe enough and it simply hasn't gone well for them.


Any other questions?
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>>78633360
Obviously different groups of people can accomplish things, there's no denying this but in the long run a lack of faith and a tolerance of rampant degeneracy is not healthy for a nation. Why do you think the west is suffering now that there's a lack of faith and church attendance rates are at all time lows, satan has even infiltrated the church and some Christians now preach against the bible!
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>>78633293
>formed the world we live in today

Well that's changed my mind. The world today is just so swell. Christians inviting refugees in and forcing the tax paying to pay for them. What could be better!
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>>78633258
>Christ is real
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In general religion is the only true defense against the deification of the state.

Not to forget reminding you /pol/sters that Jesus attacked and threw out the (((money changers))) and denied himself as the King of the Jews.
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>>78633246
>>78633246
this is what I do

Just bring up Protestantism and watch them shit on each other.
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>>78633393
q: do catholics speak in tongues?
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>>78629748
>Christian threads are killing this board
The Christians usually stick to their own little threads unless religion is the topic of another thread

What's killing this board is:
>YOU'RE AGAINST IMMIGRATION? GREAT, WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?
>TRUMP WANTS TO BAN THIS
>X BTFO
>HOW CAN X EVEN COMPETE
>X ASK ME ANYTHING
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>>78633642
>he doesnt believe in Christ
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>>78633535
>Obviously different groups of people can accomplish things
Nice real nice. Moving the goalpost as always your arguments are infantile.

But honestly liberalism is Christianity
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>>78633642
There is a reason why your country will lose with Islam.
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>>78631566
I think he's a pretty ok guy.

He knows his stuff, which is likely why many of the Christians in the generals might not like him.

People often don't like to be wrong or corrected when it comes to theology.
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>>78633740
>he isn't white
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>>78633833
white and believe in Christ, check mate atheist
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>>78633746
No it's not
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>>78633740
Sorry. Your bullshit doesn't cut it for me

>>78633761
HA. We take in like 10k refugees and we actually know how to vet them. Unlike Germany and Sweden who just swing the door open for any motherfucker to walk in
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>>78633393

Interesting. My problem with Catholics is they don't believe in salvation by grace, which is the clear teaching of the new testament.
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>>78632142
No it's not you cucked retard.
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>>78633915
>and we actually know how to vet them
Cool story Bro. Remember to vote Hillary.
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>>78634014
Why wouldn't it be?
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>>78629748
literally nobody cares that there are christian threads except fedora tippers like you. literally takes a second to move your eyeballs and look at the next thread, wow
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>>78633882
Believing in the Jew on the stick meme negates the first part (You're not white)

Pic related: You

>>78634087
>I'm a salty little Polish faggot
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>>78633915
God have mercy of the US man, things are going to get rough over there
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I'm not religious, but societies need some amount of religious values and traditions to keep them sane.

Western Europe, the US, and Canada should be enough to say that godlessness causes degeneracy.
How many of the elite jews do you think are actually religious? Or do you think they just understand this concept of staying strong to tradition?
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>>78634242
Don't cry for me Argentina
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>>78633611

If you suddenly blame the dying western christians and not secularism for the refugees you are a idiot. Christfags have no power anymore at all
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>>78634234
Do you know how hard it must have been for Jesus to be crucified? It's more than a stick, he's getting his hands and feet nailed to the cross
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>>78629748
>do you people ever get bored of this topic
>implying a person can become bored discussing the Lord their God
You fucked up.
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>>78629748
Literally do not care, only autist athiests who cannot tolerate religion and Muslims give a fuck about them. There is one Christian general up at any one time usually and Wolfsheim is a good talk for a tripfaggot.
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>>78629748
*tips fedora*
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>>78629748

>OP chooses pic of tatted whore
>Not wanting to deus vult shitskins

I've got your picture already buddy. But I won't shitpost about it, but everyone should know what's up with you. Enjoy crack whores you lefty.

Enjoy cuckaroo 2020. You are not red pilled, leave.
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>>78634311
i wont
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>>78629748
yes goys... i mean guys christianity is the problem!
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>>78634250

Values and traditions won't save you.

Only through faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ can you have salvation from the penalty for sin.
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>>78634389
I can't believe how close Islam is to overtaking Christianity
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>>78629748
no

there are barely any. you are lying.

there is no word for your kind other than "cuck"
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>>78633665
hell no
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>>78629748
no now go away
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>>78629748

Voluspa / Asatru

Been subbed to her Channel for a few years now

Nationalist / 10
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>>78629748
Yes... we're mostly Christians and Catholics here on /pol/. Don't believe the shills.

Also, sage.
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>>78634389
maybe in europe, because its more secular.

American White's are much more religious and the Christian churches in this country LOVE refugees and immigration and actively pay to important them. and we all know how the catholic church currently feels about refugees and immigration.
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>>78630019
Good job anon, keep the faith
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>>78634512
What's wrong with tattoos?
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>>78629748
>>>/reddit/
this is our hugbox, fr*g off
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>>78634625

Since catholics are not christians i think we are already there
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>>78634774
No matter how tough things get there's always something better waiting for you
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>>78629748
Agreed. All 3 desert kike religions will not be spared on the Day of the Croak.
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>>78634512
>>OP chooses pic of tatted whore

It's not a tattoo
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>>78629748
/pol/ is, and always has been a christian board. If you don't like it feel free to browse other boards.
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>>78634853
Everything.

If you have or advocate tattoos, please kill yourself.
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>>78634686
who?
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>>78635111
I was posting hat ironically, don't worry I don't believe in body modifications at all
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>>78634853
Let's think.. they are meaningless, most people who do them are insecure in some way or just narcisstic, and those tattoos will look BAD after some years unless she spends a lot of money on it. And you know, when you actually compare something - make the left and the right picture you are comparing at the same level. Instead of placing that obviously cock gobbling model on the right - you could get a whore with some cherries or tramp stamp. See ya
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>>78634930
Mary was like 15 when she married Joseph who was in his 70s, from my understanding those were jesus step siblings
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>>78635047
Its 6:21 man, besides it looks shite anyway
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>>78634726

how many refugees do you even have in the usa? should you not worry about your nigger and spics ?
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>>78634395
He's not the first one to get tacked on. And besides he went through a day or so of suffering so he could go on to be fucking king of the universe forever. WOW SOME FUCKING SACRIFICE YOU GOT THERE LEAF! Jesus is a condescending prick and if he wants me to believe in him he can come down here and tell me himself. But until then I'm gonna keep fedora tipping
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>>78635180
The bible forbids tattoos I don't support them at all
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>>78635175
I gotcha, just saw it while browsing, carry on.
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>>78633642
He really is.

The early Church wasn't trying to deceive anyone nor would anyone have benefited from that.

>The earliest available Christian texts are the letters of the apostle Paul. Scholars date his epistles from approximately 50 to 60 C.E. Therefore, many individuals think that there is at least a twenty year gap between the death of Christ and the earliest Christian writings. However, most do not realize that the epistles of Paul contain creedal summaries of early Christian beliefs which possibly date as early as 35-40 C.E.1 The general nature of these creeds includes the death and resurrection of Christ.

I would reconsider. You have no idea what a huge mistake you're making.

https://carm.org/analysis-pre-pauline-creed-1-corinthians-151-11
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>>78631680
How does the mainstream population in your country interpret the bible?
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>>78633665
It's taken much like claims of miracles: "It's a thing but most cases are probably people bullshitting."

The whole popularity of it recently came from the "Charismatic Movement" (same as the "Be healed!" crowd) came about by people being influenced by the rise of the Pentecostal sect. This has led to multiple people trying to emulate this behavior, even Catholics in some cases.

The gift of tongues is still taken seriously between monastics and those simply deep in prayer but most people are wary of the Charismatic Movement and think it's all bullshit.

Paul in the Bible, Augustine, and a few others spoke on the gift of tongues being something that would cease. The problem is, they did not say when it would cease. Some would state that it was restricted to the Apostolic Age and thus modern people like the Charismatics are bullshitting. Others, defending the Charismatics, would say that the time it'd cease hasn't come yet.

The church is very suspicious of the idea but is still open to it, though mainly between the monastics and others.


>>78633931
???
The Catholic Church totally agrees with Salvation by Grace. They just disagree with justification. All major Christian churches - Apostolic and Protestant alike - agree with Sola Gratia.
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>>78635159
>who?

The girl in your pics, this is her Youtube Channel, she's German and VERY Nationalist and stiill active

https://www.youtube.com/user/VoluspaEdda/videos

https://plus.google.com/115613410735258747683

Found her a few years back can't remember how though
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>>78635252
good point, black christians in the united states are more violent than arab muslims, but of course arabs are more violent than average european. the point is, belief in Christ does not unniggerize blacks.

yeah we have less muslims as a percentage of population but its probably still in the millions. i see them all the time, and many of the are the black african ones.
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>>78635325
If I would be a tatted kek I would say that we are going to rot in coffins anyway but I am not, so yeah
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I've been thinking about Satan lately.

Was he really that bad of a guy? He tempted Eve to eat the forbidden fruit giving us all knowledge. Aren't we better off for that?

In Revelation it says that Satan rebelled against God and got 1/3rd of the Angels up there on his side as well. A whole third. Damn, that's a lot.

Maybe he is not as bad as the Bible portrays. He was an Angel at one time, he can't be THAT bad, can he?
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>>78635456
SHould have linked to her main page

https://www.youtube.com/user/VoluspaEdda/featured
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>>78635243
you also /up all night/ here?
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>>78635666
looks like satan has been thinking about you too bud
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>>78635666
>666
he's bad, but he's just a peon in God's plan, everyone is
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>>78635332
>Early Church wasn't trying to deceive anyone
You sure about that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorship_of_the_Pauline_epistles#cite_note-Aune9-1

>Several additional letters bearing Paul's name lack academic consensus, namely Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 & 2 Timothy, and Titus. Scholarly opinion is sharply divided on whether Ephesians and Colossians are the letters of Paul; however, the remaining four–2 Thessalonians, as well as the three known as the Pastoral epistles–have been labeled pseudepigraphical works by most critical scholars

TL;DR some of the epistles claimed to be written Paul are not of his authorship
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>>78635696
Yup. It was a pleasant night, and my allergy on pollen gave up on me for now so yeah.
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>>78635738
>>78635666
Satan is a jew
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>>78635275
>he can come down here and tell me himself

Romans 14:11-12
For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Plilippians 2:9
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Matthew 12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.


All who have ever lived, or will ever live, WILL bow and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

And all who have ever lived, or who will ever live, WILL give an account of their life to God.
Every idle word.

I urge you to reconsider your views on God.
This is truly no matter to joke about.
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>>78635666
>666
That's spooky

But yes he is certainly that bad. You don't rebel again almighty God and stay a good guy. That's like voting for Bernie and considering yourself intelligent
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>>78635666
Yes, rebelling against the will of Almighty God is bad.

That being said, we do it daily through our lifestyles.

This is why we need Jesus Christ to have died for our sins.

Without Him, we are doomed to the same fate as Satan and the fallen.
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>>78635529


o,9% muslim . When i watch black church videos i dont belief they are christians . and niggers just jesus as a excuse , imma gonna steal some shit and then pray to jesus to make it all alright again , thats the vibe i get from it
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>>78636398
there are adults who literally believe this

ive talked to them

you might unironically be one of them

this scares me
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>>78636465
You've probably met more people who literally believe that sacrificing yourself will result in 72 virgins waiting for you in the afterlife
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>>78635666

Canr fool us satan
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>>78636109
>All who have ever lived, or will ever live, WILL bow and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

Keyword: WILL

Why can't he just do it now? Its been 2000 years of "any day now." Jesus ain't gonna do shit and you know it. Stop believing in this silly bullshit.


I urge YOU to reconsider you views on God or better yet. Convince me to believe. What convinced you of Jesus' divinity
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>>78636465
We have become so immersed in a society that promotes sin that we no longer see it as such.

People on /pol/ often talk about rampant 'degeneracy'.

They're talking about the death of the values that built the West.

Christian values.

Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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>>78635906
>TL;DR some of the epistles claimed to be written Paul are not of his authorship
But not the one I quoted, and there's still very good reason to believe that all of them indeed are authentic because of various reasons, one relating to the use of scribes in antiquity.

That's a flimsy objection, my man.
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>>78629748
I'm a fervent christian but I noticed it too OP.
like a month or two ago some guy started posting a daily christian general
before that christian threads were rare
and in those christian threads there was always somebody shitting on pagans and praising jews

it's classic divide and conquer. I always talk about the bible here and always take time to answer questions when they're asked, but I see whats going on
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>>78636702
For me personally, a long series of events in my life that I can not attribute to anything other than the workings of God.

Everyone has a different experience when becoming a Christian.

Some are immediately filled with the Holy Spirit upon going to church.

For others like myself, it takes time.

God is real anon, there is absolutely nothing of which I am more certain.

If you search for God earnestly, you will find Him.

I guarantee it.

Matthew 7:7-8
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
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>>78636702
things need to happen before the end
God knows the date of the end and he's going to do it when the time comes, you still have time to repent and accept Christ
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>>78636793
it runs far deeper than that even. our society is literally satanic in its metaphysical assumptions. take for instance this idea of moral relativism. the last time it made an appearance in the west it scandalized even the pagans:
>He also is believed to have created a major controversy during ancient times through his statement that, "Man is the measure of all things", interpreted by Plato to mean that there is no absolute truth, but that which individuals deem to be the truth. Although there is reason to question the extent of the interpretation of his arguments that has followed, that concept of individual relativity was revolutionary for the time, and contrasted with other philosophical doctrines that claimed the universe was based on something objective, outside of human influence or perceptions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protagoras

and this is at the center of our society's conception of morality. insanity!
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>>78630175
If every Christian were to die that'd be the majority of whites on the planet.
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>>78635906
and actually your comment is completely off-base. even the early church fathers openly discussed the issue of authenticity, and were very concerned about such issues. you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>78637394
>moral relativism

This ideology will not cease until the coming of our Lord.

Well, either that or the anti-christ will appear and dictate to us what is moral and what is not as though he is God.


Either way, things only go downhill from here.
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What type of Faggot complains about Christianity on a Christian board
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>>78637977
Someone who doesn't know that they can hide threads.
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Vietnamese Buddhist here. I don't necessarily have anything against Christians because your religion evolved with time and didn't hold down science and nations unlike Islam. Crusaders were also pretty badass and you had all rights to defend the Holy Land. You guys can believe what you want and I hold nothing against you, but the one thing that irks me about Christians, mainly Catholics is how they always try to push their faith onto others and have an annoying holier-than-thou attitude to everyone, even fellow Christians like Orthodox or Protestants.

There's also that Pope circlejerk and the whole "if you don't follow us or read the Bible you'll burn in hell" attitude. Buddhism has taught me to care less about what you guys think but the number of bad Christian thread on /pol/ and /his/ vastly outnumber good ones and it's always the loud and annoying minority that gives your faith a bad name and shitpost on threads discussing other faiths. Simply put, keep those idiots locked up and shut up.
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>>78637138
You didn't quote any specifically

>Scribes
Wrong. 1st Timothy names Paul as the author and that epistle is recognized as pseudepigraphical.

>ven the early church fathers openly discussed the issue of authenticity, and were very concerned about such issues
They didn't seem to be considering they were wrong about he author. It seems you don't know what you're talking about

>>78637366
>Things need to happen
Ok get God to do em and then we'll talk

>>78637365
>>78637365
>God is real anon, there is absolutely nothing of which I am more certain
God is a myth I am certain of that.
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>>78638201
>Vietnamese
>living on white land
You'd better be a student
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>>78638435
>Canada
>white
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>>78638319
I pray that you someday reconsider.

God loves you anon.
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>>78638201
The bible is very clear about what happens to non believers, but that's something in my everyday life that I keep to myself because I feel that it's just not a good subject to bring up. I have respect for other faiths, I am a nationalist and I see no reason why Islam or Buddhism shouldn't exist within their own borders (I do not mind minority groups here in Canada but they should be minorities and not take over) I'm not sure how I feel about the whole trying to convert people thing, I'm happy to discuss it with everyone and teach them about the bible and Christ but to be honest I think when people are aggressive about it it has the opposite effect.
It's good to have your faith in something at least and I don't know much about Buddhism but so long as you have good morals well I don't really mind.
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>>78638648
If something comes up I'll change my mind
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>>78638201
Catholics arent christian
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I've never been religious, not a fedora faggot but not raised in the faith. Lately I've realized that religion is actually necessary for a functioning society as a moral authority and I really want to get into it. I've always had a great deal of respect for the Christian cultural and philosophical tradition, but I'm having trouble getting into the religion itself. Not to sound like an edgy faggot but most churches seem to be very SJW-ish and the Catholic church especially seems like it is 100% brown people now, as well as this crazyness with the pope lately. Aside from that, after not really believing for most of my life, trying to push myself into it just feels a bit fake.

Any advice from Christbros on reconciling your red pill beliefs with the church? I feel like it is important as part of our culture and spiritual heritage, but I can't really get enthusiastic about the theology.
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>>78639508
The Catholic Church absolutely has been infiltrated by satan, many churches completely ignore the bible. You even have churches performing gay marriages now, all I can say is read the bible don't worry about the church now just put your faith into Christ and follow the teachings of the bible. It can be very hard to find a church these days
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>>78638931
do it before it's too late, in death we cant repent
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>>78639763
Why can't I just repent when I give an account to God?
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>>78640148
if you are death it doesnt count, you can be in you deathbed and repent, accept Christ and be saved, but who knows when someone is going to die, dont leave it to chance, repent now and be free
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>>78639508
Have you read the The New Testament?

If you haven't, I highly recommend starting there.

The life and teachings of Christ are the perfect example of how we should live.

I'll be honest, most churches these days are very lax when talking about needing to repent and turn from a sinful and 'degenerate' lifestyle even though that was one of Christ's main reasons for coming to this Earth.

To die as a propitiation for our sins, and to preach repentance so that we can live according to the will of the Father.

From reading your post, I feel that you maybe have things in your life that you're trying to stop doing, but you really need a reason to. Well, if that's true, then you're not alone in that. Not at all.

At the very least, try living your life according to the way that Christ taught, and then maybe one day you can come to the realization that His teachings were indeed perfect, and the He indeed is the only begotten Son of God.
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>>78639715
Will do, thanks leaf.

Glad I'm not the only one who's noticed this. I'm not very versed in scripture but the way the new pope has been acting lately is really offputting. I always thought the idea behind turn the other cheek was more about individual humility, but it was still acceptable to defend your people and way of life. I'm not even talking about Deus Vult tier shit, but even Christ REEE'd on the money changers in the temple. It freaks me the fuck out to see Christians rolling over for Islam lately, I don't think I would be able to get past that.
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>>78640464
Why doesn't it count in death? That's when God shows up and that's when I get my proof. So why the fuck can't I repent when God ACTUALLY shows up
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>>78640806
God wants faith from people, if you can see him you have your proofs and it doesn't count
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You made a thread JUST to whine about it?

Take it to >>>/qa/
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>>78640148
Because that will be the moment in which you will be giving an account of why, for all the opportunities in your life you could have, you did not repent.
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>>78640728
God told us, that should anyone come to our citites and tell us to worship other gods we are to strike them down with our sword and burn the town down.
Turn the other cheek doesn't mean take abuse, if someone calls you stupid or something just ignore it and get on with your day is what it's saying. Some people have difficulty with this and it causes problems in their life.
We absolutely can defend ourself
>Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. 9 Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that the family of believers throughout the world is undergoing the same kind of sufferings.
It's very easy to take things out of context but other verses will support a different idea
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>>78640806
We can't pretend to know why God does not want to make some sort of a spectacular move to convince people that He is real.

This will happen in the future though, that we know.

And when it does happen, it will be too late to say sorry.

Maybe it's partly a test to see if we can humble ourselves, as stating that God does not exist difinitively is the absolute height of arrogance.
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>>78640876
Why does he want faith? That's fucking stupid and pointless. God should know that critical people don't use faith, but instead rely on evidence.

>>78640936
Ok when he asks me why I didn't repent I'll say: YOU DIDNT GIVE ME ANY PROOF YOU FUCKING TWAT!
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>>78630019
Stay strong brother. Your relationship with Christ is the more important than any other.

Matthew 10:37–39
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>>78641225
Well, you already have proof anon.

God is self-evident.

If you can not realize His existence by simply existing yourself, then you need to take a step back and reevaluate your worldview.
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if you're not atheist, you're no better than ISIS

>redpilled
>not atheist
pick one, non-chads
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>>78640577
Thanks for the advice.

I've always tried to live virtuously, but it's generally been more of a philosophical thing rather than a spiritual thing. But lately I've noticed how empty everyone seems to be and how most people just substitute secular ideology where they used to have religion. I came to the conclusion that a society can't be supported only by secular politics and atheism, because there is no authority to enforce morality.

IMO, it's the reason why atheists and secular humanism has become such a shitshow of disgusting behavior and hypocrisy. People love to shit on Christianity but I'm convinced that once we got rid of the church in social life we started all of this degenerate shit we like to complain about here.
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>>78641221
>This will happen in the future though, that we know
Know? You don't know. You have pic related.

>>78641221
>Maybe it's partly a test to see if we can humble ourselves
Isn't he omniscient? Shouldn't he already know the test results?

>>78641359
>If you can not realize His existence by simply existing yourself, then you need to take a step back and reevaluate your worldview

How do I know that its not Allah who created me? Or better yet why does all the evidence show that I'm a primate and not God-created.

Your whole post was just a meme. Lemme show you

Well, you already have proof anon.

God's non-existence is self-evident

If you can not realize that, then you need to take a step back and reevaluate your worldview

I literally just copied and pasted your post and replaced a few words. Stop declaring statements and start showing proof
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Make a religion board, problem solved.
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>>78641225
>God should know that critical people don't use faith, but instead rely on evidence.
There's plenty of reason to believe Christianity. We have the NT documents, the lives of the early apostles, the witness of the early church, prophecy, some amazingly accurate:
http://www.reasons.org/articles/was-jesus-arrival-accurately-predicted-in-the-bible
https://carm.org/does-daniel-9-24-27-predict-jesus
and the testimonies of countless people who have been changed by it.

That's all evidence.
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this thread has been taken over by Christians

fuck
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>>78641943
The difference is in the part where I stated 'realize His existence by existing'.

Essentially I am asking you to really think about where you came from.

Stating that you believe that God doesn't exist simply because you exist just doesn't make sense.

The opposite is true for the opposite.
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>>78630019
>it's very, very politically incorrect to be a Christian.

I think you mean embarrassing?
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>>78642356
>Fucking religious arguments I don't have time for
I've heard the Christianity "historical" song and dance before. I've seen all these claims debunked before. You can look it up if you'd like because I have to go to bed and don't have time

>>78642676
>I am asking you to really think about where you came from.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

>>78642456
Save yourself from this thread before its too late.
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>>78641912
I was talking about this with someone else earlier in the thread.

Moral relativism will be the death of Western culture and society.

Christians will be soon openly mocked and regarded as bigots.

More so than we are today even.

This will happen through ignorance of what Christianity really teaches, which is love above absolutely everything.
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>>78642861
Come on, think a little deeper than that.

From where did consciousness arise?

Nothing?

No, see there had to have always been a consciousness present for reality to exist at all.

That consciousness is God.
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>>78643243
>there had to have always been a consciousness present for reality to exist at all

source?
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>>78643323
It's really quite obvious.

Try meditating on it for a while.

Also, try reading pic related for another excellent argument for God.
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