0 deaths. Gun laws: successful. Just think how much worse it could've been if he used deadly gun/ ammunition like is legal in the US. Checkmate, gunfags.
Oh wait.
>0.50c have been deposited into your NRA shill account
>>78303506
>1 muslim has been deposited into your cinema
>>78303506
Your shooting in your homeland today shows that gun laws never have worked, and they never will.
>>78303506
hey Ahmed. Mexico died when they took our guns. The bad guys won. Just like they are doing in Germanistan. That's why everyone is trying to get out of this shithole.
>>78303506
>Shills trying to call other people shills is a new tactic
Nice try Ahmed.
>>78303506
We are not NRA shills you retard. We send money to the NRA, to smack people like you around all day, and help us keep our guns.
anyone else think about how strange it would be to go with your mates and display corpses?
gotta be akward
>>78303822
retard spotted. no one died but the "gunman" with his airpowered gun
imagine if it was yankville, loadsa dead cucks
>>78303506
One turkish dick has been deposited in your ass, cuck.
>>78303506
>1 shekel has been deposited into your account on Karl Marx bank of jewery
>>78304226
>Being armed makes you a cuck
No wonder Remain is going to win.
>>78304226
Yeah much safer in Europe./
>>78303506
Civil self defense forces were already pushing back on drug lords even with old ass AKs and hunting rifles. The government disarmed those forces and now Mexico is shittier than ever because criminals are the only one with guns. There's no NRA in Mexico before you say anything dumb.
>>78303506
Go fuck yourself.
>>78304077
>War on Terror
>9/11
>0 Death
https://youtu.be/rj-gnVs-fMk?t=12s
>>78304510
how many times has an armed citizen saved people from a mass shooting in burgerland??
hmmm, is it 0? I think it may be
>be mexican
>get decapitated
>>78303281
Are you part-Australian by any chance OP?
>>78304601
Tlateloco was the turning point for gun control. People owned guns and there were gunshops and gun ranges.
Fuck the government.
>>78304549
Yes, it actually is.
>>78303281
> comparing failing state Mexico to US
Nigga, you sure think highly of your own country.
>>78304662
What is Garland Texas? Who is the uber driver that prevented a mass shooting in Chicago?
>>78304077
>americans cant die because they already all obese
>what is dead may never die
USA
>>78304662
kek. britbongs unironically think this.
>>78305119
>Cherry picked stats
>Fucking massively selective choice of countries to compare
>Specifically says in chart "excluding mexico"
stay cucked faggot, and post pics when your daughters get raped and killed by achmed/
>>78305381
kek'd tbqh famaladingdong.
>>78305119
Do those "murder" rates include the insane amount of gun suicide in the US? How about the nigger problem the US has?
>>78303281
...are we just going to pretend that Mexico doesn't have a super fluid border with a country that has some of most lax gun laws in the world (not to mention Texas, a state with some of the most lax gun laws of said country)?
I'm all for the 2nd, but if it's not blatantly obvious how our super relaxed laws (not to mention drug appetite) effect their shit throwing contest you should seriously kys.
Know a democrat who owns a gun?
Save lives and report them now!
>>78303281
>Gun Control Works Mexico
Nothing works in Mexico, not an argument.
Fuck off lardo.
>>78305562
> cherry picked countries
Have you read the text, burger? Oh, I forgot, the butthurt is too strong to read. Only "excluding Mexico" sticks to your triggered brain.
> massive choice
see above
>>78304617
pls don't cry Wayne.
>>78304654
> pic says 20th center
> 9/11/2001 is the 21st century
>>78305678
>Do those "murder" rates include the insane amount of gun suicide in the US?
No. But the liars (Gun grabbers) use that method too. The misleading chart you are looking at, compares "gun murders" so they can deliberately make the high UK murder rate look lower, since UK cucks like to use knives to kill each other. Also, it compares the Latin American nation (USA) to white European nations which is retarded.
We are a nation full of niggers and South American savages, yet our murder rate is still relatively low. Why? because we are fucking armed and criminals ply their trade at the peril of their own lives.
>>78304226
Only if he was in a gun free zone, pussy.
Try a mass shooting on my block and you'll be deader than fuck
>>78306105
Just remember to post the pics you massive cuck.
I would post the pics of the victims of our many "Mass shootings" but there aren't any, because they never happened, unlike the rapes in Europe, which happen every day.
Enjoy......
>>78303697
OH NO YOU DIDN'T
>>78303281
What happened in image?
>>78303281
Again, those are all narcos and shieet you colossal retard.
You never see normal people shooting like in the US, John.
>>78304662
how many times has a conceal carry saved someone from a dindoo attack at knife point?
Fuck wish i could have one to shoot coons who try to mug me
>>78303281
The best was the Vice documentary on romney's cousins who live in Northern Mexico. They got tired of cartel members kidnapping their Mormon cult farmers so armed themselves illegally and chased out the cartel thugs.
>>78303697
>>78303506
Keep your hate speech off this website
>>78307110
>Again, those are all narcos
>Bunch of random massacred middle age mex women
>IT'S ALL NARCO'S BRO!!
>NO PROBLEMAS AQUI!!
>>78305877
Or maybe your fucking president should stop gifting weapons to criminals to see what happens.
>>78305919
DON'T YOU DARE DISS OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR SIR ELLIOT RODGER
>>78304662
Guns save innocent people literally every day in this country.
(((Media))) refuses to report these.
>>78306976
Oh, a bunch of Mexicans are kidnapped, probably tortured, and killed and just dumped somewhere in public. yeah all dead.
Another day in Gun control paradise. I wonder why our Liberals don't stop crying about guns and move to Mexico, where guns are banned?
>>78305877
But those people were killed with knives.
>>78306614
The UK had 602 homicides in 2013. That is actually a pretty low number. So your argument is based on wrong or false information.
The US had 12,253 in 2013.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
But I agree, the chart leaves many countries out of the picture.
Still, I am baffled at how you never ever even consider more gun control to see how you fare.
Thing is, this debate is only driven by ideoology and you guys are triggered so easily that you cannot have a civilised discussion about it.
>>78305119
It's wrong for Switzerland.
Just throw that shit into the trash.
>>78307966
Once you give up rights, it's incredibly difficult to get them back. We've given up enough of our 2nd amendment.
Why don't you worry about your own country and shut the fuck up about mine.
We have violent niggers and spice in every single city and town in this country. I will die before giving another inch of my gun rights.
>>78306919
> cuck fetish
> cuck fetish
> cuck fetish
> cuck fetish
Seriously, will you ever grow out of it? Maybe you need to meet real women and crawl out of your basement?
>>78304077
Not true, The Japanese killed a family in Oregon with fire balloons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_balloon#Single_lethal_attack
also civilians were killed during pearl harbor and the Alaskan islands campaign
>>78308218
> why don't you ...
Because /pol/ my friend
>>78307433
lol you act as if he doesn't want some vengeance for all his """"sons"""" getting ethnically cleansed from cities like LA.
>>78307725
The discussion is about Mexico's gun control laws though, no? It's not that difficult to see such laws won't really work if you're next to a place overflowing with guns, see: Chicago, NYC, Washington DC. Worse yet, there's 310+ million guns floating around the US (that we know about) in the hands of private owners.
No amount of laws will ever really get a significant percentage of those out of the hands of private citizens. Ever.
>>78308218
I really do love the irony of the GOP worshipping Reagan when he was the one who put the full auto restrictions in effect, which a lot of the the innawoods types hate. Then again, that was pretty intelligent idea.
It's also probably a good idea that people on the FBI watchlist/no fly list shouldn't be able to buy guns if they can't actually get off said list, which is something even Trump and the NRA back, just don't tell congress lel.
>>78307966
>Still, I am baffled at how you never ever even consider more gun control to see how you fare.
Talk about how you plan on dealing with the roughly 320,000,000 guns in circulation in the US and maybe then we can talk about gun control.
The time for gun control was decades ago. There's more guns than people and nobody knows where the fuck they all are. What are you going to do, kick down doors and take them all? I guarantee you that that'll lead to more death than you can possibly imagine.
>>78303281
>7 dead bodies
This might be the work of the Chileans desu
>>78307966
Im baffled that you would even consider any gun control when history has repeated, over and over again, that you loose. Go ask what jews are left in your country how gun control helped them in WWII.
>>78308597
Two people killed is a statistical zero, and I'm going to adjust the 35 dead Swiss (RIP) because that is a statistical zero also. More Americans have been killed by our "ally" Israel, than died from our so-called enemies in these wars (on the homefront)
>>78307966
>Still, I am baffled at how you never ever even consider more gun control to see how you fare.
>German telling us to turn in our guns.
Nigger that's all we need to see, to know we have to keep our guns forever. You are the strongest argument for an armed citizenry that ever existed in history.
>>78309745
it was 5 dumb ass 5=/=0
also Canada has the same stats, it has everything to do with geography, not guns
>>78304662
BTFO
T
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http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/
>>78310121
ok jared diamond
>>78310121
5 = Statistical Zero
Five is a fucking car crash. Statistical zero in a war with millions and millions slaughtered.
>>78307384
those women were snitches, relatives of narcos, dishonest women who if had kept alive would've bred more narco fags to continue the violence, trusst me nothing of value was lost
(also i dont mean snitches as they snith on narcos to the police, no, they're like spies between gangs)
>>78303697
>"killer" couldn't even kill a single person due to gun control restricting his access to actual guns
>burgers make fun of this
Kill yourself. Gun control obviously worked in Germany.
>>78309317
neocons worship reagan, he's their daddy.
>>78310284
ah, so then its ok that your countrymen are literally subhumans
>>78310516
>Gun control obviously worked in Germany.
OK bro, you can have it.
>>78309361
You don't have to get all guns in one day. That's not how it would work. It would takes decades to get the number down but the government would have to be consistent and strict in enforcing gun control.
Off the top of my hat:
All citizens register their guns.
Add a moratorium: Illegal guns can be registered without penalty for a certain time but will be seized with compensation.
After that: Getting caught with an illegal firearm will get you huge fee or jail time.
Ammo can only be obtained by showing a registration.
It will be illegal to sell Ammo for outlawed guns types.
To say it is too late to take action is idiotic.
>>78310711
when you dance with the devil, expect to get burned
>>78310777
>It would takes decades to get the number down but the government would have to be consistent and strict in enforcing gun control.
>Only then would you be as safe as safe Mexico.
>>78308127
you have more guns than people shut up
>>78309317
Oh yeah let's give the FBI and other """"transparent"""" government agencies the power to revoke constitutional rights without due process. Yes that's a great idea
Idiot liberals like you are the cancer of the earth.
>>78309711
What? Can your rephrase that so it's intelligible?
>>78310090
> Implying your society is as homogenous in its ideals and goals as it was when the 2nd amendment was written
You are very optimistic, my friend.
>>78310090
>>78310737
The holocaust is a lie
>>78311046
> comparing shithole MEX to US
Are you saying the US is the same shithole as Mexico?
>>78303506
Fuck you! Go lick mama Merkel 's twat!
>>78311533
>This shit-tier arguments
Do you think we are retarded? Or are you being paid so you don't give a fuck how stupid your posts are. Respect if you're getting paid to shitpost.
>>78310777
>All citizens register their guns.
They tried to make a couple states do that, about 5% of people complied. It was fucking hilarious.
That shit wouldn't fly in the US. You can't just make 1/3 of the nation felons for doing something that was constitutionally guaranteed and expect it to go well. Yeah, maybe parts of New York and California will go for this. You do that shit to most states though and you're not going to like how it ends.
mexico isn't a real country
>>78310516
it sure did, that's why germany is full of friendly brown people now
>>78311437
>The holocaust is a lie
You can't use this argument IRL ever. Especially for gun-grabbing libtards. The holohoax is practically their religion, so you can invoke the shoah literally every minute.
Gun control does work but it wouldn't for America. I wouldn't wanna be left at the mercy of ultra violent nig nogs and spics with their illegal guns, and they would get even more brazen knowing citizens have been disarmed.
>>78311139
Oh right, let's allow literal terrorists, who cannot use the legal system to get off the watch list (unlike innocent Americans accidentally placed on it, who can) to buy guns even though they cannot get on a plane. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this line of thinking. At all.
Imperfect solutions and compromises are better than the fuckwitted oversights that knuckle dragging shitstains like you that enable. Just remember it's you, and people like you, that will have all that freedom loving American blood on their hands at the end of the day.
>>78308819
Maybe they could use a wall
>>78312143
>>78312379
Not soon enough lel
>>78312279
Your "imperfect solution" is unconstitutional and unamerican.
Eat shit and die commie pinko scum
>>78304966
Wait? Mexico has gun control?? I though you could just do basically whatever the fuck you want in mexico?
>>78313478
Wrong. Guns are banned, or heavily restricted in mexico. That's why Mexico is so safe and peaceful today.
>>78313430
It's also the one touted by Trump and the National Rifle Association shit for brains. It's about as """"unconstitutional"""" as banning Americans from owning full autos without a shitload of paperwork, or banning them from owning powerful explosives and nukes. Fun fact: the constitution also isn't a suicide pact, and I'm glad both Trump and the NRA see it that way.
Not to mention that "unamerican" is an incredibly totalitarian thing to throw around isn't it, Big Brother? The founding fathers would roll in their graves if they could read the bullshit you're spewing.
>>78305877
>...are we just going to pretend that Mexico doesn't have a super fluid border with a country that has some of most lax gun laws in the world
When drugs come into America from Mexico, it's not Mexico's fault it's America fault for having a population of drug consumers. Mexican criminals are just supplying a preexisting demand.
When guns go into Mexico from America, it's not Mexico's fault for having a population of violent criminals that demand guns it's America's fault. Therefore Americans need to stop selling guns so the violence in Mexico will stop.
Amazing how supply and demand only seems to work one way, in a manner that guarantees Mexico never has to take responsibility for it's problems and everything is always the gringo's fault.
>>78303281
laresaca.jpg
>>78304662
DGU happens daily britcuck.
>>78312279
Or we could just deport all the Muslims and never have to worry about Islamic terrorism ever again...
What's the matter?
Imperfect solutions and compromises are better than the fuckwitted oversights that knuckle dragging shitstains like you that enable.
>>78314929
>implying the demand for American guns, in part catalyzed by Mexican gun control laws, isn't being driven by a drug war fought to best satisfy and profit off the the American drug appetite
While I agree we get blamed for a shitload of stuff that isn't or fault, this one is really difficult to deny our role in. They buy guns impossible to get in Mexico here so they can better secure their part of the pie supplying our highs, and they cater drugs largely in part because Mexico is still an impoverished shit hole (as it has been).
>>78315625
What is "freedom of religion" again? Are we actually going to try and defend the constitution, or just the amendments you like?
>>78307966
http://usgovinfo.about. com/od/rightsandfreedoms/fl/US-Gun-Control-Timeline.htm
stupid kraut.
>>78313769
Typical fool.
>>78315625
Oh, and not to mention: "what is taqqiya?"
>>78314318
You're talking about taking rights away from Americans without due process.
The founding fathers would have executed you.
>>78305119
Mexico is so awesome it doesn't even show in the graphic
>>78315855
You're guilty of the exact same thing. You're a hypocrite.
>>78315681
Here's the rub though.
Narco-enablers are quick to point out that even if Mexico magically stopped selling drugs, the demand would simply be met from somewhere else. Therefore the only way to beat the cartels is to undercut them by legalizing their product and ending their monopoly on drugs.
Logically then doesn't this also mean that even if all of America's guns magically vanished, the cartel's demand for guns would simply be met by some other source, and the only way to beat them is to legalize guns in Mexico, undercutting the cartel's monopoly on the Mexican arms trade?
>>78315855
Oh, so now when it effects MUSLIMS, instead of law abiding White Americans, the Constitution matters to you!
>>78316295
And the alt right's god as well as the current NRA leadership. It also sounds like someone hasn't heard about the National Defense Authorization act which currently allows indefinite detainment of US citizens without trial. Oh, and Abe Lincoln who suspended Habeus Corpus during the Civil War.
>>78316505
Claiming it doesn't make it so. Such a ban, widely backed by even the National Rifle Association, doesn't infringe on the 2nd amendment anymore than something like the full auto ban. That, and your idea doesn't "solve" anything because taqiyya makes it pretty feasible for them to prevent a mass deportation. Additionally, unlike with the 2nd which is arguably pretty ambiguous in interpretation, the 1st amendment is far more concrete in the whole "don't punish people for worshiping wrong" thing.
>>78316128
>Mo money for dem vagina programs
>>78316793
Kind of? You're forgetting that a drop in drug demand would largely end their need for all those weapons. And making the gun laws vanish in Mexico would just mean they can buy guns in Mexico instead of the US, which doesn't really fix the problem of them gunning each other down in the streets to secure better routes to serve America's drug problems.
>>78317149
Your mental gymnastics are astounding. I'm convinced you're insane. You're not worth the time arguing with.
The second amendment couldn't be anymore clear, commie scum. Get AIDS and die.
>>78317049
I like how you capitalized "muslims," as if it wasn't already super obvious who you fear the most. Anyways, the dilemma is that the "no fly, no buy" proposal I'm bringing to the fore isn't just backed by me, but by the NRA and Trump and only opposed by, well basically people like you. Whereas your mass deportation scheme is supported by maybe some white nationalists. Mine is also about as "unconstitutional" as banning full autos, whereas yours literally breaks the 1st amendment.
And again, the idea is that the process to get off the list if you're mistakenly added should have the fuck streamlined out of it so "law abiding White Americans" (funny how specific that is) can get off it easier.
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/22/trump-spokesman-on-no-fly-no-buy-he-doesnt-want-to-remove-second-amendment-rights-without-due-process/
>>78317572
> Kind of? You're forgetting that a drop in drug demand would largely end their need for all those weapons.
>the only profit mechanism available to criminals is drugs
There is an armed and violent faction present in Mexico. They will not magically disappear any more so than America's appetite for drugs will magically disappear.
>which doesn't really fix the problem of them gunning each other down in the streets to secure better routes to serve America's drug problems.
Sure it does. Now law abiding citizens can own and carry guns as well and they no longer live by the mercy and whims of the cartels.
>>78305119
We got a lot of brown people
>>78318120
lel stay mad fuckwit. Once again, making claims isn't the same as them being true. The supreme court has been unambiguous that the 2nd amendment isn't unrestricted, and it follows that if you can allow the innocent to get off the list easily then there should be no issue.
Say if an American citizen sneaks back from fighting for ISIS in Syria, but law enforcement cannot actually charge them with anything since they have no actual proof and can only put them on a watch list, I'll take my chances with them not being able to buy guns. If someone on said list can demonstrate innocence, they should certainly be let off the list though.
>>78303506
>NRA shills
You mean /k/ bosch?
>>78318776
>There is an armed and violent faction present in Mexico. They will not magically disappear any more so than America's appetite for drugs will magically disappear.
No one is saying either will. I suppose they could become political, however they're using their arms primarily on their competition and the authorities who try to fight them. If you hypothetically eliminated the big treasure they're fighting over: drug smuggling routes and infrastructure, they would dry up fairly quickly without some means of replacing the enormous drug profits. That's very unlikely to happen though.
>Sure it does. Now law abiding citizens can own and carry guns as well and they no longer live by the mercy and whims of the cartels.
There are already "autodefensas" popping up and using illegally and legally acquired weapons to fight cartels. However all you're really suggesting is making a slow burn brushfire war into more of an all out civil one.
>>78318546
lol
but banning full autos is also unconstitutional anon.
:3
If banning full autos is OK then so is banning Muslims.
>b-but muh Taqqiya...
>you can't stop Muslims from lying...
Banning full autos doesn't magically prevent someone from converting their AK-47 with a shoe lace either
"Imperfect solutions" anon...
:^)
>>78319865
>but banning full autos is also unconstitutional anon.
Like preventing private citizens from owning nukes is unconstitutional?
>If banning full autos is OK then so is banning Muslims.
>implying it's as easy to ban people as it is inanimate objects
Idk what else there is to really say. If we ban Muslims, then we can certainly ban all guns too while we're at it. Sounds like a utopia tbqh.
:^P
>>78319647
You are very wrong, anon. If the cartel were to lose its primary business it would just invest more in secondary ones (gun making, gun smuggling, kidnappings, sex trade, stealing and selling white babies (look it up)).
These are highly organized companies. They won't just lay back and die simply because their main profit dries up. They will look to move to other markets, and seeing as how they are illegal organizations in the first place you can expect the markets they move to to get extremely more prevalent and violent.
>>78319647
>If you hypothetically eliminated the big treasure they're fighting over: drug smuggling routes and infrastructure, they would dry up fairly quickly without some means of replacing the enormous drug profits.
The treasure they are fighting over is power not drugs. Removing drugs simply means they'll use heir overwhelming advantage in firearms to pursue power through other means.
>However all you're really suggesting is making a slow burn brushfire war into more of an all out civil one.
Sometimes the only way to put out a fire is to let it burn itself out.
>all those NRA shills grasping for straws
how many shootings have been avoided by legally armed civilans the last year?
>>78320586
Nothing presents American citizens from owning nukes beyond their expense and the difficulty of procuring the requisite materials.
>If we ban Muslims, then we can certainly ban all guns too while we're at it. Sounds like a utopia tbqh.
Throw in commies, spics, and spooks, and you've got yourself a deal anon.
>>78316405
>Mexico
>part of developed world
Keep dreaming Paco
>>78304662
https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/
>>78320993
This is assuming their temporary weakness isn't taken advantage of while they try to transition without their primary income. One wonders why, if they are so powerful and capable, they do not simply seize power right now. (Also really digging the paranoia about """"white babies"""" being stolen)
>>78321134
>
The treasure they are fighting over is power not drugs. Removing drugs simply means they'll use heir overwhelming advantage in firearms to pursue power through other means.
What's stopping them from doing so now? Collectively they have far more power than the Mexican gov't after all, and alliances between the cartels are hardly unprecedented. The answer is fear that the US will intervene, and that won't change whether they are able to still sell drugs or not. (It might make them desperate enough to try something, though)
You also seem to be forgetting that they seek power so they can make more money, and want money for more power. These are two sides of the same coin.
>Sometimes the only way to put out a fire is to let it burn itself out.
And have it spillover into the Southern US? How about "Fuck no"
>>78321763
Honestly I'd absolutely love to see someone try to justify personally owning a nuclear weapon to the US govt if they were found to be in possession of one.
>>78304662
it happens a lot, it really only gets reported on by local news, the jews in the MSM never report on it doesn't fit the narrative
>>78322583
> What's stopping them from doing so now? Collectively they have far more power than the Mexican gov't after all, and alliances between the cartels are hardly unprecedented.
You've answered your own question. They don't need to because they have more power than the Mexican government.
>. The answer is fear that the US will intervene, and that won't change whether they are able to still sell drugs or not. (It might make them desperate enough to try something, though)
So you're entire idea relies on them fearing the US more than they fear the prospect of going out of business, and becoming vulnerable to reprisal for the reign of terror they've held over Mexico.
>And have it spillover into the Southern US? How about "Fuck no"
A). It already does.
B). All the more reason to build a wall.
>>78322838
> Honestly I'd absolutely love to see someone try to justify personally owning a nuclear weapon to the US govt if they were found to be in possession of one.
Duck hunting.
>>78324385
>They don't need to because they have more power than the Mexican government.
In the sense they could overpower it if they worked collectively and quickly yes, but they're far from invulnerable to govt intervention.
>So you're entire idea relies on them fearing the US more than they fear the prospect of going out of business, and becoming vulnerable to reprisal for the reign of terror they've held over Mexico.
These aren't mutually exclusive concepts, anon.
>A). It already does.
Not like an all out Mexican civil war would it doesn't.
>B). All the more reason to build a wall.
I don't disagree, lel
>>78304662
Checkmato atheists.
>>78303506
Thass allatuh shekels, Ahmed.
>>78311533
A little unrelated but I had a debate with a liberal who said Americans are doing no better than the people in haiti, I walked away.
