I am a PhD candidate at La Trobe University studying how online discussions about moral, social and political issues might have an effect on peoples’ views, attitudes and beliefs. I am focusing exclusively on 4chan, its users, and the views that are expressed on its boards.
So, obviously /pol/ is a good place to start.
>Do you think spending time on 4chan altered your perspectives?
>If this prospect interests (or irritates) you, then you may find completing my anonymous questionnaire vaguely entertaining.
I have set up a website [OPhere.net] which has all the project details, a dedicated email address to contact me, and a link to the anonymous online questionnaire. I am hoping to organise some one-on-one interviews as well, so if you would prefer to skip the prompts and just tell me your views, please do not hesitate to contact me.
This research has been granted approval by the La Trobe University Human Ethics Committee. Reference No: E16-027
>TL;DR: PhD student wants to know your views on various social, political and moral issues.
>>78254785
sounds like a 4th tier school.
>>78254845
More like 3rd tier. Generally goes by department in Aus.
>>78254845
In any case, what does it matter?
>>78254942
I want my opinions published somewhere they will be read, not in a 3rd tier New Zealand Uni.
>>78254785
I want to fuck you in the mouth
>>78255109
Fair point, but who ends up reading your opinions will be determined by the journal I publish in, which will (hopefully) be 1st tier (i.e. American).
>>78254845
Define your tier-rankings.
Top 20 per country? 50?
>>78255239
I see - and why is that?
Oh, and La Trobe is an Australian university, not that it really matters.
>>78255251
I doubt it? I've never heard of your school before now. Sociology is meme-tier.
>>78254785
Looks like we hit a new level of Aussie shitposting lads
>>78254785
I'll suss out the website OP. Don't mind getting involved.
>>78254785
>>Do you think spending time on 4chan altered your perspectives?
I've watched my perspectives change 4chan, I've even seen some of my arguments used by popular YouTubers, something I'm proud of rather than offended at being plagiarised (honest thanks guys).
>>If this prospect interests (or irritates) you, then you may find completing my anonymous questionnaire vaguely entertaining.
I've been unemployed for some time, I'd prefer my opinions were distributed vicariously through better demagogues with greater platforms than if I entered the public view myself. I'm worried what I believe could hurt my chance of employment.
Now do you understand anonymity? Good, because the threat of disemployment the far left regularly implements is a form of very real, very effective censorship which is only countered with anonymity.
And it's sociology faggots like you that promote the same diversity policies, affirmative action and repression of any political dissent which, although may not be the only factor, is absolutely a factor in my unemployment and is a deliberate impediment to my right to pursuit of happiness.
t. White male high achieving STEM graduate.
PS: women are twice as likely to gain employment in STEM.
>>78254785
i just reported this, have fun in the pokey, faggot
>>78255348
Why would you have heard of an Australian university? The only one with any transnational mainstream media attention is Melbourne uni, and they are hopeless at sociology.
>>78255437
Cheers man, much appreciated!
>>78254785
I can do an interview in person.
Expect an email soon.
Meanwhile, I'm completing the questionairre.
>>78254785
How does a room full of phd pillar society faggots smell after a group orgy party?
>>78255644
First reply didn't post. Wanted to say thank you, and I look forward to hearing from you!
>>78254785
Simply knowing people's views doesn't tell you anything about the influence online discussions has had or not-had on those people's positions.
>>78254785
How much do you pay per hour of our time?
>>78255851
Do you actually frequently visit 4chan?
Or are you an outsider looking in?
>>78254785
i startet questioning political events happening around me alot more. i've also become more skeptical about the idea of a goverment.
>PhD in anything but STEM
Why bother?
>>78255514
I appreciate that you took the time to answer here. I am very familiar with the principles of anonymity, its function and implications included. If you take part in any aspect of my project I can guarantee your anonymity. There is a short outline of protective protocols on the website. Also, the purpose of my research is essentially the opposite of the social justice warrior bullshit you describe. I want to capture how things actually are.
>>78254785
sent ;)
>>78255942
Been lurking for years, and spent 2014 researching 4chan as well. Yeah, I frequent the boards a lot.
>>78256249
Cheers
The internet in general has made me hate people in the most intimate of ways.
Turned me against my family, my friends and my romantic encounters (I only like emotionally detached face fucking.)
Politically its turned me into a government leech sucking down as many social programs as there is available.
The real question is... am I happy?
Only if your not.
>>78255908
Damn straight, that's why the interviews are so fucking important. The trick is actually arranging them.
>>78255941
>implying a PhD student has any money
>>78256198
Patrick, based on your PhD title, how "fiction" is in the very name... I don't believe you. You are studying us because you believe we're criminal, you're a criminal sociologist teacher, you are literally part of the group "crime and governance thematic group symposium." You are literally not likely to present us in an intellectually honest light.
You likely don't care that I've been unemployed so long for reasons so contrary to my merit, in fact you either deny that SJW is a factor or you think I deserve it. I know your type too well. You and the employment agency woman who literally told me I deserve to suffer when I tried to apply to new start.
I don't believe you.
Neither should anyone in this thread.
>>78256336
The Internet in general? That's a lot of platforms anon... surely they haven't all made you misanthropic? You clearly know yourself, and what I really need are critically self-aware people to participate. I would greatly appreciate it if you had a go at the questionnaire...
>>78256083
It can be fun/interesting.
>>78256623
I see you have googled my name. What you are referring to is a link to TASA, in which my profile lists all of my research interests. I am not actually a teacher (PhD candidate, not yet qualified to be a lecturer).
Have you considered that my interest in that field might actually be one of sympathy or at least consideration for the 'criminals'?
In any case, the 'fiction' bit in the title is a reference to the default disclaimer at the top of every /b/ thread. I kinda hoped everyone would get it...
>>78256674
Exactly, I mean look at what I am doing. I get to spend my time researching a website I actually like spending time on.
>>78256658
If it makes any difference, I'm a self-taught web designer.
I can literally taste the greed off all the most popular website interfaces.
If people deserved anything but agony someone somewhere by now would have designed an "ease human suffering" button. But instead we got the kill everyone project.
I could do that, but fuck you, how about you go plague your own mind with the heavy sociopolitical implications of technological alchemy.
>>78255957
Really? How did you link spending time on 4chan to these changes?
>>78254785
>Do you think spending time on 4chan altered your perspectives?
Obviously so, though im willing to bet you expect it differs depending on what the individual gets out of the interaction.
For me it was validation. I wanted my personal thoughts and opinions to stand trial. It's encouraged me to be partisan, to listen objectively to views that my society would deem as hateful without proper rigours. I narcissistically saw myself as a "philosopher" but only grew to hate those that presumed intellectual superiority though a kind of self-aware projection. Id like to think that everyone can see truth, there is no skill or hidden depth of mind, it just takes time and curiosity.
Other times its been for catharsis, a sake of belonging. Though its easy to see the lines blur, I like that there is a place where i can say nigger ad nausium just for the sake of it and be more or less completely secure about my beliefs on race, ideology, politics etc.
This website is probably the longest thing i have ever committed to in my entire life.
Pic related
>Project title: interpreting ARTISTIC works of FICTION and FALSEHOOD on 4chan
Totally likely he's showing things how they are.
>>78256658
People like you make me misanthropic, yes, but you'll find much of 4chan is Christian. It is an imperative that we love our enemies, for they are fun to dismantle and at least they're ridiculous enough to assure us they're on the wrong side of history.
No one 40 years from now is going to believe diversity quotas were anything except a Marxist attacks on certain demographics.
>>78256893
>I am not actually a teacher (PhD candidate, not yet qualified to be a lecturer).
PhD candidates tutored at my uni, you are still on contact with students.
>Have you considered that my interest in that field might actually be one of sympathy or at least consideration for the 'criminals'?
So you admit you actually believe we're criminals instead of recklessly misrepresented by the mainstream media? Outside of the edgelords that think Nazi sympathy is funny (believing them makes you a victim of Poe's law), 4chan is full of libertarians and Christians. These are people who fled to the last bastion of real free speech, through anonymity, to converse about what they believe is a moral high ground.
>In any case, the 'fiction' bit in the title is a reference to the default disclaimer at the top of every /b/ thread. I kinda hoped everyone would get it...
Your sociology peers won't.
>>78257102
Well, being a web designer would definitely give you a solid insight into the nature of internet-human interfaces. Fair enough, the site will be around if you change your mind.
>>78256658
>>78256893
>>78256975
>>78257147
Which cunts are you voting for next week?
Why are you using protonmail.com instead of your university email address?
>>78254785
>studying how online discussions about moral, social and political issues might have an effect on peoples’ views, attitudes and beliefs
You're studying how our statements and expressions of what we believe might be connected to what we believe?
Whoa, you're really onto something here.
>no, I'm studying how the interaction affects
How the flying fuck are you going to quantify that?
All you're going to get is that what we say correlates with what we think. Shocking data, really.
>>78256285
Just finished the questionaire and sent an email.
Let me know if you recieved it.
>>78254785
This fucking goy.
>>78254785
>Do you think spending time on 4chan altered your perspectives?
No, if anything it has reinforced my belief that everything must be questioned and that any idea must be put into the free marketplace of ideas to be tested.
>If this prospect interests (or irritates) you, then you may find completing my anonymous questionnaire vaguely entertaining.
No thank you, I live in Melbourne and I know a lot of faggots from the La Trobe campus who are socially regressive and would honestly love nothing more than to see someone with my views on the world be fucked over.
>>78257240
You realise that if he fucked someone's anonymity over, he could ruin his entire academic career?
>>78254785
Sam Newman might be running for Mayor of Melb.
>>78257147
reading news from 4chan that are not shown on the tv or goverment controlled sites. i also got introduced to books about alternative economical systems and politic. this is can be toxic,but also a gateway to learn new things
>>78257240
Again, the title is an ironic play on the /b/ disclaimer, but your reaction suggests that it was not as clever as I thought it was!
Not sure what I have said that has led you to believe I have such motivations/intentions...
You are right, I have tutored in a few subjects, but I am bound by research ethics legislation (and my own fucking principles) to keep the results from my research confidential.
I absolutely do not 'admit' that I think 4chan users are criminals. That would imply knowing a shit load more about the users than is even possible from spending time on the boards. I was just trying to explain why that link comes up when you google my name. You should also see that I am interested in research about emotions, for example...
fucking lmao.
usyd law master race right here.
except i'm getting fucked in the butt right now
>>78257662
*website
>>78257662
Cool, that actually makes a lot of sense... I tend to forget that everything that happens on 4chan is not necessarily in the form of conversation on the boards. Lots of linking to other platforms, reading articles etc. I hope you have a crack at the questionnaire man!
>>78256336
You sound weak
nothing of value was lost
>>78257580
>This
>just sign up to my honeypot and get put on my gover- mailing list
I'll pass.
>>78254785
So.
You'll use a biased, tiny subset as a subject.
Then announce it, ensuring more bias, and ensuring the responses will be exponentially biased.
Yes, this is the expected output of the education system today.
When you graduate, you'll be well-positioned to pass on your bias, furthering the decay of education.
>>78257422
Jesus fuck I don't even want to vote. I can't see a viable candidate yet... ask me again in a few days though.
>>78257848
> sound weak.
> value
You'd fuck this face, too if you could.
>>78257447
Because I assumed that if I actually do get a lot of emails from participants that they might get lost in the flood of university related emails I get. That and protonmail is a specifically anonymous/encrypted service that I figured might reassure participants that I am not fucking around with the anonymity thing.
>>78257447
>publishing email address on Internet
>not wanting horse porn
Pick one
>>78258059
Yeah im really missing out on the crybaby that thinks the internet ruined them
>>78257945
The plan is to try and get as many boards represented in the study as possible. The main goal of the research is simply to try and determine if people actually change their perspectives on issues/concepts as a result of reading stuff online. I will obviously be discussing the unique aspects of 4chan, and recognizing the limitations of any research is kinda mandatory for a PhD project, and essential to any publishable work.
>>78258255
But anon, are you saying you don't like horse porn after having a few beers and in need of a good laugh?
>>78255595
thats because sociology is hopeless.
>>78258396
>>78258090
Aren't you compromising the results of the research by talking to us?
All done OP
Hope it helps
>>78258484
Shame that you think so, but it seems like a good way to examine important issues to me.
>>78254785
Seems interesting, OP. I just finished filling out your questionnare. Best of luck, friend.
Is this just a research project or your actual doctoral thesis?
>>78258539
Not at all, the project is ethnographic, which basically means that you need to get in touch with your research topic (i.e., walk in their shoes). Besides, the research question depends on actually asking what you think anyway. Fair question though.
>>78258677
Cheers man, much appreciated! Do feel free to shoot me an email if you wanna discuss further.
>>78258736
It's my doctoral thesis, but I am not going to pretend that I am not personally interested in the topic!
>>78254785
Spending time on /pol/ has made me not trust the media. They will manipulate and spin anything to maintain their narrative.
>>78258580
Really appreciate it mate - I honestly didn't expect this much participation. Feelsgood.jpg
>>78254785
I actually took this seriously, so don't let me down, Australia.
People definitely change on this board. I went from Romney-style cuckservatives to genocidal racist. Then again, it seems like common sense that people have their beliefs change if exposed to different ideas.
>>78258984
I can appreciate that, but doesn't /pol/ often do the same thing? I mean, I have seen some intellectual gymnastics here that put Clinton's rhetoric to shame.
Just lol if you get any real answers out of this.
>>78254785
Sup Pat.
Spending time on 4chan has done nothing to alter my perspectives, I believe just like I did in the beginning, that humans are neutral, there is objective good and evil, and we should all work towards one clear and open direction.
4chan exists as counter-culture, it is low effort, low risk, low engagement counter-culture. Because the Internet generations are low effort, low risk and low engagement.
When you are drafted to fight a war or forced to segregate or doped by the government, it creates a survival tension in the population. If some of us are getting fucked, maybe we will all get fucked in the future, so they tend to rebel and cry for rights and justice and freedom.
They (we) will always settle for immediate comfort and safety.
When you are given a cold drink, a hot meal, a comfortable environment and the freedom to pursue any passive interest, it creates a dulled and obeisant population. Some groggily realize the sweet web they have fallen into and try to rebel, a sense of survival, an instinct inside them is shouting to fight, to resist. But they lack the necessary pressures, they are in no immediate physical danger and since humans are neutral and also bad a long term prediction the VERY tools they use to resist: namely websites like this; are simply farmed and exploited to construct a better and more comfortable trap.
>Q: On an ethical level, how do you feel about your work in the future being used to enslave, eliminate, subvert or silence any opposition to a global and monolithic system of control?
I assume given your personality, you will feel a sense of horrific pride at your contribution no matter how small.
You see, they are building the bombs with words and pictures now. That's you Pat, you're with the builders.
>>78254785
How much does your department make in grants each year? I wanna know how much money is spent on scrutinising opinions of autists on a Mongolian pube-shaving forum.
Are you a richfag or can you actually make money in that field?
>>78259157
I can't speak for the country, but I can definitely say that I take this project very seriously. Hopefully when it's finished you will get to read it! And also, thanks for taking it seriously anon, much respect.
>>78254785
Outside of 4chan, this is what people Australians actually believe.
>>78254785
heh, nice try CIA
>>78254785
You picked the worst possible time to do this. You're as like to be speaking to a correct the record shill as a native.
>>78259462
>born Muslim
:\
I tried to answer it as decently as I could. Hoping someone who's undergoing a PhD respects scientific method and will remain unbiased in the final result.
>>78259462
Is that a man cross dressing as a Muslim woman?
>>78259325
Well, I see your points here, but my research is about highlighting the role of websites like this one in our lives. I don't think my results would mesh well with an exploitative approach...
>>78259162
We worship a fucking frog god that blesses god emperor trump with meme magic. Trump doesn't make mistakes, he plays 3D chess. /pol/ is satire and you will be laughed at by your uni.
>>78259560
I do respect the scientific method, and I can guarantee that my work will be unbiased (to the extent that it is possible - what inherent bias is present will be recognized, and its impact/influence on the results interrogated).
>>78259869
Quite possibly, but that's a risk I am willing to take!
>>78254785
come to agorphobia cafe and ill beat your ass fag
>>78259551
Everyone's born muslim :^)
>>78254785
By the time you complete your study, we'll have the trains running in Europe again. Don't waste time
>>78260084
Not sure what you mean by that... Might be missing a reference here.
Sent you and email
>>78259528
Seriously?
>>78254785
>not sure if particularly well thought out austrailian shitposting or a humorous attempt at gathering useless information
all you need to know is
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>>78259879
>I do respect the scientific method
You're doing a social ''''''''science'''''''' research project. There is no 'science; involved. It is entirely subjective.
>I can guarantee that my work will be unbiased
And as a social ''''''''science'''''''' project I can already guarantee that is impossible.
Plus, you've engaged in conversation with the participants about the research on the very platform you're researching. All of your results stemming from this thread would be invalid in an actual scientific research project.
>>78259353
I actually have no idea, I would need to look it up. As far as I'm concerned, I get a living allowance at the same rate as every other PhD student at the school, and that's it.
>>78257977
Id: 88
Based
>>78260218
/polgbt/ here.
Op is a disgrace. Using a Likert scale with a drop down box to begin with should be punishable by either repentance and horse rape, or exile to the humanities disciplines.
And the framing on "Views, Attitudes and Beliefs" page is such an obvious leading tell on your opinions and preconceptions, that it makes Scientology look subtle.
I hope you get some decent qualitative feedback from this, because your quantitative methods are a trainwreck.
Fortunately for you I think you're actually trying your best to do good research, so I wont bot up your survey, or tip off the lesbian multicultral maoists to brigade the fuck out of it..
>>78258255
Horse porn is so /trash/y. We have much better memetic weapons these days.
>>78259162
Biggest difference is that /pol/ isn't respected as an authority. There's no expectation that /pol/ smokers be impartial, or get to the truth, or not completely make shit up to push an agenda. The biggest is getting unfiltered opinions and statements directly from political minorities. Of course a big sack of that is going to be fucking noxious. But much like the traditional australian bag of hoon, not every one can take that straight and remain sensible.
Hey, OP. Bonus points if you can get stuck in the mud tenured boffins to watch this explanation from Taiwan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDiOmviCq3U
>>78260218
If you don't get the joke, you'll NEVER GET THE PUNCHLINE. Until its too late, of course..
You are wasting your time here and this whole thing sounds like an nsa honeypot.
>>78260056
Muslims actually believe this. Children are just lied to and become some other religion.
>>78260331
More of the latter man. I really don't think its useless information, I think 4chan is actually pretty fucking important.
Why don't you study something worthwhile? My taxes are paying for you to live in your parents basement and each chicken trendies for the rest of your life.
Have fun waiting tables for the next twenty years!
>>78254785
answered truthfully, good luck OP
>>78260339
Read the rest of my post...
>>78259718
This website used to be about brutal antagonism and anarchy. In that fiery crucible individual contributions were rated on objective merit and spread without accreditation. Like jokes written on a toilet stall. The goal was to laugh and make others laugh, because being human is a very temporary experience and we are all our own spectators.
This is what it is now, and why people visit this website:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTqXEQ2l-Y
As it grew it gained enough attention from outside powers and was infiltrated and co-opted, to farm a nubile audience for products, ideas, tap into a gold mine of potential, what do people really think. Normal every day people flooded the boards and turned the entire site into groups and groupthink.
/pol/ was a containment board for the Nazis whose views were a little too offensive for the /b/ board which had become a surrogate 'how do i talk to girls' dating advice forum and 'isn't being an atheist so cool, nobody ever thought about it before now' circlejerk fedora tipping arena,
>>78260549
Thanks man, much appreciated!!
>>78260447
I know, which is why I said it.
>>78260218
this is the mussolini of disapproval
he wants you to go back to r.eddit
>>78260476
protip: its not
the only thing that separates this place from the rest of the shithole that is the internet is anonymity. even if you believe the rumors about this place, its not what it used to be. there are better places than this particular board or website to gather your useless information. due to the constant iinflux of ledditors and other newfags, i know there are many like myself who come here purely out of habit.
my advice to you is to pick a real science and stay away from this website.
>>78260400
Much respect for the methodological critique, and gratitude for not fucking with the questionnaire! It really is primarily designed for the qualitative data...
>>78260693
Fuck you Baby Germany. You deserve Anschluss 2.
>>78260818
>due to the constant iinflux of ledditors and other newfags
they shit up the board, that's undeniably true, but it's also what makes this place a fertile ground for us to work our meme magic
Don't you know how oppressive it is to ask for my gender you shitlord?
Nevertheless, I will answer your questions.
>>78260588
Declaring your fuck up doesn't negate the bias, nor does it validate the results.
You cannot possibly measure or estimate the impact of your posts in this thread on the influence of the responses, or on who actually responds.
It is entirely unknown to you, so the results can only be rejected as invalid.
Better start screen capping this entire thread to explain why your research is not worthy of publication in any reputable journal.
>Mining data on /pol/
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW
>>78260594
I am inclined to agree, but the very fact that this website has attracted so much mainstream attention is just an empirical fact we have to live with. It does have implications for the quality and nature of the posts, but it doesn't mean that the site is necessarily less influential. I actually think that the increased exposure probably heightens the website's impact on people just by sheer virtue of views. But we will see - hence the project.
>>78254785
>>Do you think spending time on 4chan altered your perspectives?
Yes. Very much so. Pre- Pollack era me was a die-hard bona fide Bernie Sanders supporter, with a vision of a paradise where the people lived without the qualms of oppression in the daily struggle known as life. I was was a hopeful back than, a dreamer, had ideas, visions. And most of all. Happiness. But now, we have reached where my previous form sheds, and a new one takes over. One with bitterness and hate for the world in which I once fought so hard for. Rather my joy is not found in the norm, and I seek happiness in the unconventional. I.E, taking joy in the misery of others (Schardenfreude), I frequently masturbate to the end of western civillization (BBC porn). Other then that. I am simply a flaming nationalist socialist. So yes, I agree it has completely changed my perspectives.
>>If this prospect interests (or irritates) you, then you may find completing my anonymous questionnaire vaguely entertaining.
I would be interested
>>78260914
M8 it's sociology, not a real science. No one gives a shit about measuring variables except to pretend to be scientific. They were all Marxists until a few decades ago.
>>78260890
Hehehe, cheers man.
>>78260818
This, its cleaned up a ton. Gore, sink threads and raids aren't really a thing anymore. This is just one of the few places people can come and voice their stupid opinions without it being silenced by downvotes or heavy moderating.
>>78258898
I'll do an IRL interview if you can prove that you are who you say you are and we can make suitable travel arrangements. I may or may not be visiting Melbourne in the next few months, if this is your thesis then you should consider visiting major capital cities for interviews; at least Sydney and Brisbane. I might contact you via your La Trobe email after I've finished making dinner.
>>78254785
Real Latrobean reporting in.
I'm calling this bullshit.
LTU e-mail addresses are something like:
[email protected]
Evemtually with students.latrobe.edu.au as a sub domain
Tomorrow morning I'll check with the ethics committee and if I find a single coma where it is not supposed to be, we're gonna go legal on you.
>>78261159
Well put. As anon has already said, it's a different type of 'science' that is held up to a different kind of standard. There are plenty of social-sciences methods books around that will explain the similarities and differences between the social and natural sciences. Also, I need to point out that I am not trying to measure the impact of my posts, I want to examine the impact of spending time on the website from the point of view of individuals.
>>78254785
>Do you think spending time on 4chan altered your perspectives?
Yes 4chan has made me incredibly cynical, I used to believe there was some purpose to it all, now I think our political leadership is led by stupid liars desperately trying to hide their stupidity.
Further I've practiced a lot here, so now I don't fear Mark Twains warning "Don’t argue with idiots. They’ll drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.", I've gained sufficient experience here, now I don't lose against idiots IRL.
The trick is really not to listen to anything they say and push a predefined narrative regardless of its truth or quality.
You see the big mistake smart people make is they think stupid people are thinking like they are and cognitive beings, while they really are fillers.
Aside from that 4chan has convinced me that the Neonazis are the biggest losers of Western society, which makes it even more enjoyable to punch them while they are protesting.
>>78261405
then, like every newfag, your best option is to shut up and lurk.
>>78261368
I have an LTU address, which I am not using for the project. Reasons were discussed earlier in the thread. The ethics application number is in the OP and contact info for the ethics department at latrobe are on the website.
>>78254785
>Do you think spending time on 4chan altered your perspectives?
The whole point is to have a "safe space" (in SJW terms) where ideas can be discussed freely without the tyranny of identity (and the unlimited ad hominems following it being a factor) getting in the way of the issues. A lot of stuff here is satire, and a handful of posters are probably mentally unstable by any standard, but places like these are sorely needed as thought policing in the real world increases.
To answer you question: It changes the perspective in the sense you would expect when open debate with nothing off the table (in terms of words exchanged) becomes a factor. If anything this place would make you more balanced and conscious citizen when facing society, which is a good thing.
If some leaders were to shut it down because they can't handle the banter that would be a terrible mistake imo.
The claim that places like /pol/ is filled to the brim with fundamentally hateful people is a joke.
>>78261511
>then, like every newfag, your best option is to shut up and lurk
This is the advice a newfag will give you
>>78261511
For the most part I do, but I also need to try and answer questions from interested anons. I am asking them to do something after all, seems like the least I can do...
>>78256623
>Patrick, based on your PhD title, how "fiction" is in the very name... I don't believe you. You are studying us because you believe we're criminal, you're a criminal sociologist teacher, you are literally part of the group "crime and governance thematic group symposium."
If trick is involved researcher is legally bound to disclose the trickery at when survey is completed. Otherwise it is a breach of the National Statement (2007) on research involving human subjects.
I see no info is given on how data are being collected and stored.
Everyone can actually write to LTU Ethics commission and inquire about this.project with no repercussions and right not to have their privacy violated.
>>78254785
USyd here.
La Trobe are faggots.
>>78261331
Brilliant, please do shoot me an email via the address on the page. We can discuss how best you would like me to verify my identity (shouldn't be too hard!). I agree, but I would need funding to do a lot of travel, which I don't have unfortunately.
>>78254785
>Implying an article about 4chan can be published without the (((concerned))) and (((problematic))) key words being used by the author or imposed upon him by reviewers.
>Implying getting /pol/ and possibly the whole of 4chan closed would't propel Patrick's career in academia and something he would fladly accept (don't pretend thos sweet articles in the HuffPo Australia are not something you jerk off to).
Quite literally the cancer that is killing /b/. Sage goes in all fields.
>>78261771
no u
>>78261665
Oi Kangaroo, what are you after, shit posters or quality posters?
Because you are arguing with a shitposter.
>>78261576
>The claim that places like /pol/ is filled to the brim with fundamentally hateful people is a joke.
You can't seriously expect Normies to see our ideas as anything but hateful, right? The very act of questioning their liberal, tolerant, progressive world view makes us hateful in their eyes and worthy of fiery contempt.
>>78254785
>Do you think spending time on 4chan altered your perspectives?
I doubt it. Though it has helped me better understand and explain the perspectives I already have.
>If this prospect interests (or irritates) you, then you may find completing my anonymous questionnaire vaguely entertaining.
I enjoy getting irritated, it trains me to stay calm and face things reasonably.
>>78261811
Also the ´see guys I used the world fucking! I am one of you!' meme
>>78257240
>So you admit you actually believe we're criminals instead of recklessly misrepresented by the mainstream media?
Man, I worked as an ethical reviewer.
If this dude was a true researcher he would be compelled to disclose his supervisor's name in the disclaimer.
And unless he's using participant observation methodology (which he is not because he is handing out surveys) he shouldn't respond by stating his views
>>78261746
For the most part yeah. There is a dedicated page on the website that outlines how data will be stored and collected - see 'your rights and anonymity protocols'.
>>78254785
finished it. good luck.
>>78261811
I have no doubt this will be used to laugh at us. The liberal left is developing an odd fascination and, to some extent, disgust with the Alt-Right.
The important thing is that our message will be spread. There's no such thing as bad press.
>>78261616
>>78261616
>being an obvious newfag
i remember a time when this whole thread would be filled with oldfags (oldfags then, when i was a newfag) telling op to fucking lurk and youll learn everything you need to know.
>>78260432
>nsa
they have better quality honeypots.
>>78261746
What would happen if we recreated /lit/'s pissbottle fiasco, or created much rule 34 as possible using pictures of LTU's executive officers that had holes poked in them from being targets at the local pistol range, like what happened to that SJW researcher from Columbia that one time?
>>78261845
At this point I am really just trying to answer questions, clarify and (try) to demonstrate that I am not one or more of the following: NSA, CIA, FBI, ASIO, ASIS, corporate fuckwad, shitposter etc.
>>78262057
Cheers mate, much appreciated!
>>78261484
You sound like Dunning-Kruger personified m8
Why do so many Germans do this here: State their superiority and how the other side are idiots, throw out meaningless personal attacks and then leave without explaining anything (because everyone is 2 dum 2 get it neways :o))?
Or is this all form the same shitposter?
>>78261965
Supervisor's name is in the PIS (on the website). Participant observation can be combined with other data collection methods...
>>78260882
The only Anschluss that's going to happen is when we send an Austrian to lead the Germans again.
>>78262231
kek.
Rule number 1 on arguing on 4chan, never explain anything to anyone.
The moment you start to argue about who you are, you lost. Because in every thread on 4chan there are two dozen people lurking who are waiting for you to express individuality they can rip to shreds and take a big fat dump on
>>78262030
I'm cool with the project.
Saw the other pages.
Looks legit.
>>78261576
I see your points man - I hope you took a crack at the questionnaire, would love to read your answers!
>>78262231
>>78254785
WHITE POWER
WHITE PRIDE
WORLDWHITE
UNITE
JOIN THE FIGHT
TONIGHT
WHITE IS RIGHT
WHITE IS MIGHT
WHITE IS SIGHT
WHITE IS LIGHT
WHITE IS FIGHT
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>>78262517
>the numale beta way of living
be honest and then you will have prepared rebuttals for all the arguments against your position IRL where its important
then you silence them
then you win :^)
>>78261870
>You can't seriously expect Normies to see our ideas as anything but hateful, right?
Of course not based on the presentation, but the claim is still bogus. Their narrative is approaching full collapse among non-retards though, so they lost. That kind of rabid shaming tactic was hugely successful just a couple of years ago. Now? Not so much..
>>78262517
Well, I gotta concede to that. I must be getting tired lol.
>>78262295
>You sound like Dunning-Kruger personified m8
So you are telling me I'm more successful than people who actually know what they are doing?
Thanks mate, I appreciate the praise.
>Why do so many Germans do this here: State their superiority and how the other side are idiots, throw out meaningless personal attacks and then leave without explaining anything
Because I spend a lot of time on /pol/
>Or is this all form the same shitposter?
You are welcome, I have shaped your opinion on Germany more than living next to Germany has.
Did it, don't dox me bro. I'd do an interview but I'm total hikkikomori
You need a place at the end where we can call you a faggot
I'm not even white, but I cheer for white people btfoing other races (a la niggers)
>>78254845
>4th tier school
Correct!
La Trobe is shit tier
>>78262077
>I have no doubt this will be used to laugh at us. The liberal left is developing an odd fascination and, to some extent, disgust with the Alt-Right.
Man, as many laymen here, you overestimate how much people in the academia give a fuck about you.
Many people usually refuse to answer surveys for fear they can be used against them.
This is so typical of close communities where suspicion is the norm. An actually your suspicion is unfalsifiable because whatever objective result may come out of the research, you will always call it bullshit whenever it doesn't meet your expectations.
Since science has something called repeatibility of data collection....if PhDanon here publishes crap and others follow his project and come up with different findings, this is gonna be gold because that's how science progresses.
So I wouldn't be much worried about outcomes because true academics are very far from being the libtards or SJWs you all blame here on pol.
The few who are are very outspoken.
I can also voucher for the transparency of the ethics in Australian projects.
>>78262295
Yeah, it's the same Cucked Kraut that makes all the bait threads. Should be obvious from the wording.
>>78262800
Thanks mate. You shouldn't have included anything in your responses that could be used for a dox... but if you did I am required to manually delete identifying information from them anyway. Online interview out of the question? Also, I think you have a point about including a space at the end to call me a faggot. I might actually do that lol.
>>78262668
>be honest and then you will have prepared rebuttals for all the arguments against your position IRL where its important
Only true if you have IRL a position which deviates significantly from the Norm.
IRL I largely share the public opinion expressed in Mainstream media, no rebuttal necessary as political discussions IRL are primarily consensus building measures and not substantive arguments.
>the numale beta way of living
Better to be a beta numale who can get laid than be the guy who ends his bloodline
I'm a (you) addict so /pol/ made me more leftwing.
>>78254785
Get the fuck out.
>>78263000
To what degree is sociology influenced by jewry?
>>78262995
Ach halt deine Hackfresse du dummer dreckiger SchluchtenscheiĂźer.
Deine Eltern sind Geschwister, hab gehört dass das bei den Habsburgern deutlich üblicher war als sonst wo in Europa, ihr widerlichen Untermenschen
>>78262189
>What would happen if we recreated /lit/'s pissbottle fiasco, or created much rule 34 as possible using pictures of LTU's executive officers that had holes poked in them from being targets at the local pistol range, like what happened to that SJW researcher from Columbia that one time?
As a student of that Uni, I strongly recommend nobody follows this suggestion.
Anyway it is interesting because assuming, as I think, project is legit... how is it possible to study communities that are by definition "protean"? They adapt to all attempts of probing. Communities such as 4chan always retaliate in some way. It's like a public scaffold for hanging people.
I strongly discourage anything is done against OP... but I cannot see (my bias) how a community like this can be investigated without awakening the meme beast.
>>78263000
Yo.
Has anything hilarious or amusing come up in any of the answers yet?
How many people have a write-in to the Gender question?
>>78263078
kek
>>78254785
Shitposter shiposting shitbait.
>>78263236
Your flag should be Canadian with a post like that.
>>78254785
I am a Classical Liberal who supports Constitutional Monarchy and wants his rights to free speech and to bear arms under common law back again. How does that fit into your viewpoint?
This is the most advanced shit post of all history.
Shitpostralia is truly the masters of shitposting.
>>78263236
So many levels of shit, I thought I was in Paris.
lol latrobe
>>78263309
Exactly what your views are: Unimportant
Whether 4chan changed your views: Important
>>78263019
>I largely share the public opinion expressed in Mainstream medi
AHAHAHHA
>Better to be a beta numale who can get laid than be the guy who ends his bloodline
yeah your bloodline is going to be so proud of you faggot, can't wait to see all those betamax bitches in 2100 faggot
tell me about your great great great great grandfather, who was he? close to you? tell me about his life? his accomplishments? or did you already forget and never care about him?
>>78263000
Nice trips
Obviously you can't use this academically but 4chan is really the only place I can socially interact. Even texting is too stressful and my brain shuts down. But shitposting here its like there are enough layers of irony, meta-irony, whatever that nothing anyone says seems to bother me.
>>78263173
Und sowas will ernst genommen werden :^)
>>78263078
I Laughed in response to your post (ILIRTYP)
I gave a write-in to each question.
The first letters of each write-in were T, H, E, G, A, M, E.
Let's see if anyone notices.
>>78258090
Bullshit.
>>78261965
I'm imagining some sort of
>MY TIME WITH THE /pol/ACKS,
where he goes all steve irwin or Jane Goodall on us.
>>78262918
>close communities where suspicion is the norm.
Well, we HAVE gone all Kawahiva on people's asses before...
>>78263178
Wasn't a suggestion, other than just the usual instinct to culturally enrich some people with unexpected rule 34.
>>78263197
Just looking at the responses now. Yeah, there be some funny shit in here all right, but for the most part it looks like people have actually done it properly: which is really encouraging and appreciated!
>>78263483
One of the write ins were supposed to be numbers, so probably.
>>78263613
Share the funny shit pls.
>>78263375
>tell me about your great great great great grandfather, who was he? close to you? tell me about his life? his accomplishments? or did you already forget and never care about him?
I could tell you who my Grandfather is, but then I would be going against the advice I gave OP.
You see, you are full of shit and talking about family making assumptions, honestly why would I say anything to you aside from
>check out the biceps of this roo
>>78263371
It didn't. And I've been here for over a decade.
>>78263379
Cheers :)
Which thing are you saying I can't use academically?
So you are saying that there is too much satire/irony/bullshit mixed in with the serious for any of it to have an effect on you?
>>78262918
>repeatability of data collection
kek. If OP's paper becomes popular, I doubt any other academic will be able to pull this shit again before being told to fuck off with more aggression this time around.
>>78262736
>>78262763
>To go back to 4chan
my sides
>>78254785
I was a gender queer demi sexual otherkin otter.
I'm now Hitler's Dog.
I put on my pup costume and role play with my wife's boyfriend. He plays a proud Hitler of color and blitzkrieg's my wifes pussy.
>>78263728
Why are you here if you don't like to discuss stuff? Personally, I like to argue things with people. It helps me develop my own opinions and is helping me create my own sort of ideology and world view.
If you just shut down any discussion, you'll never grow mentally. You're just wasting time.
>>78263718
Didn't think of this. Fuck. I can't man, it would be a breach of anonymity.
I would ask people to SS their responses and post them, but its the same issue. I gotta stick with the anonymity/privacy protocols.
I just dont know what it is, I've felt my political opinions change more from left to right. And my results have gone from Libertarian to ever increasing Authoritarian. And I find myself feeling anger towards so called "degenerates", whom would usally be my friends.
Is this right? I dont know, but whatever I feel like these views are right in my heart and its hard to imagine myself before ever believing an alternative.
>>78264059
It still counts as a breach of anonymity if you share single individual answers (i.e. not correlating who said what) on this filipino Mtn Dew testimonial BBS?
Dang.
>>78262763
>To go back to 4chan
kek
Don't forget, you're here forever.
>>78264016
>Why are you here if you don't like to discuss stuff?
Cause I enjoy taking shits on Neonazis
>If you just shut down any discussion, you'll never grow mentally. You're just wasting time.
So you are telling me to grow mentally I should give you information which makes it possible to narrow the group of people I could possibly be from 82 million down to 150?
If you sincerely believe that giving out information that makes you identifiable on 4chan is a good idea you are retarded.
>>78264220
It would if I did it here, because there is a strong possibility that whoever wrote those answers is still here.
Point is that even if it were not viewed as a breach of anonymity/privacy by the ethics legislation to which I am bound, I wouldn't do it just because I personally wouldn't want to risk harming any anons who participated.
>>78259325
> implying words in real life have any meaning
> at least in my shithole
> the language, meaning got decomposed
> we are supposed to be slaves
> so shitposting is cooperating with the system
>>78264555
> I personally wouldn't want to risk harming any anons who participated.
I was on your side till you said this
>>78264879
Hang on, you're ok with harming anons?
>>78264749
Fair enough. So you mean that you had this nihilistic view prior to finding 4chan?
>>78264925
I second this query...
>>78264925
>Hang on, you're ok with harming anons?
No, I encourage it
>>78264749
>4chan to me has always been about accepting an absurd degree of nihilism.
I very much doubt that.
>Nothing is shocking, nothing is sacred, whatever.
This is true, but it doesn't imply nihilism.
What 4chan will teach you is to LAUGH at anything. That nothing should make you feel upset or disgusted, and instead you should replace those emotions with keks and faps.
> I realized I was supposed to feel emotions for certain things but couldn't. I can't visualize people with actual hopes and values and shit.
4chan is full of people with hopes and values and shit. Those values are just politically incorrect ones.
> 4chan is the asshole laughing as the world collapses because he sees the futility of it all.
4chan is indeed the asshole laughing as the world collapses. But not out of futility. It's because seeing things collapse on themselves is just inherently amusing.
I think you might be projecting a bit of your own emotional dullness onto the 4chans.
>>78263966
This research is actually for my PhD, but if I managed to publish a paper that would be fucking ace.
To be completely honest, I am actually really surprised at how much cooperation and how little shit flinging has happened here.
>>78264549
......why do you hate your own people so much that you are forcing national suicide on all of them?
>>78265260
You are the first Australian, I've talked to on 4chan who hasn't been a complete shitposter, Australians have a reputation for that on 4chan, and we all love Australia for that
I'll sum it up for you; I used to be a greens supporter. I now love one nation and want someone to nuke melbourne.
Also you made a mistake coming here, 4chan is like internet tobacco, you'll keep coming back here more and more often
>Best thread of the day
>OP is Australian
>>78265423
>4chan is like internet tobacco, you'll keep coming back here more and more often
Only if you are autistic, OP is not autistic and likely has a Grillfriend, he won't get hooked on 4chan
>>78265537
4chan has plenty of normies.
>>78265423
>Implying I was not already hooked.
Hard to say if that view is necessarily a result of 4chan or just Australian political fuckery.
>>78254785
lidderal meme degree
go fuck yourself OP.
>>78255109
Learn your flags cunt
>>78265260
You will need to fly in some of your interviewees to do it in person for the paper to be legitimate. This should take maybe 2 weeks or so (in my experience). September good for you?
>>78265640
>4chan has plenty of normies.
not /pol/, spend a lot of time on /fit/, where people are significantly more normal and less insecure than here, but /pol/ is 90% Asperger
>>78265730
Thought of that, want to do that, but realistically I can't.
The amount of funding I would need to marshal would be staggering, not to mention the obvious and very likely possibility of transnational trolling. Still, I would really like as many nations represented in my research as possible. I figured online interviews would be best for that. I mean, what's wrong with using some form of videoconferencing software?
>>78265798
>15 posts by this ID
>>78265724
m8 you got baited by the most novice and babby of b8
>>78264945
>>78265215
Accidentally deleted but the other guy quoted all relevant shit
Yeah, I felt this way my whole life really. Never been depressed either. Just didn't see why nothing was better than something. Still don't really. So its pretty difficult to engage with people
And honestly, no, I guess 4chan wasn't always about the absurdity for me. I came here first for anime posting around the time Death Note was still airing in Japan. I remember being (more of) an edgy fedora faggot back then and really obsessing over that series.
>>78266078
Online interview?
Okay, but what would take place in this interview that was not handled by the questionnaire?
OP is Patrick Scoyler-Gray (pic related).
Lives in Melbourne, Australia
Engaged to Tamara Aniela Johnston fb/tamara.a.johnstone
Now can someone please help get something exploitable and get rid of this cancer or will you keep pathetically enjoying the attention you are getting from someone whose job is to paint you as a loser? (inb4 getting muh views out there). Your choice Anon.
>>78265798
Out of curiosity, how literal are you being here, and how did you reach this assessment? All kidding aside, how do you discern posts made by trolls from those made by persons who are actually autistic?
>>78266185
That really you, OP? Looking like the Alpha of Betas there
>>78266185
Detonate yourself, Abdulkerim.
>>78254785
>Do you think spending time on 4chan altered your perspectives?
yes, but not in the wya you think, i just learnt a lot about internet and nerd culture
>>78266611
>Norway
>Attempt at banter
I would have seen in it all in this cancerous thread
>>78266185
>>78266268
I will have Vegetarian Pizza without cheese delivered to this person.
>>78266643
What do you think I had in mind by 'altering'?
>>78266790
Thank you for making 4chan great again Anon
>>78266783
Dat gif gave me more keks than when a bomb goes off in your country
>>78266185
OP's a big guy.
>>78266946
Ah fuck nvm. You're Algeria, not Pakistan. I'm drunk. You faggots are alright
>>78266816
changed your political leanings, this is a politics subreddit
basically 4chan cured my autism and also made me read neuromancer
>>78267045
>Algeria
>You faggots are alright
>I'm drunk.
Checks out..
>>78267045
Cheers
>>78267083
4chan got me a job as a cook at Wendy's where I make 80,000. It also grew my cock to nine inches
>>78267083
Yikes, I wouldn't call a 4chan board a subreddit...
How exactly has it "cured your autism"?
Sidebar: neuromancer is a great book.
>>78267268
OP's hambeast of a girlfriend is not impressed
