I see it as a good thing.
Why did we fag out for 17 years?
I sincerely miss post 9/11 nationalism and I don't care who know it
>>78237468
This. Faggots.
>>78237384
>>78237384
and we only started 1 of them
>>78237742
civil war, revolutionary war, the list goes on
>>78237384
> 4 indians shot in 1874 in bumfuck, Montana
> call it a war
>>78237913
>ended with us taking their land
We should mind our own business and let the rest of the world burn.
Build our arsenal and wait for the day they come for us.
We'd be ready.
>>78237834
British started the revolutionary war. We simply called ourselves a nation.
Civil War was started by the Union (War of Northern Aggression) so I'll give you that.
>>78237384
Without wars we couldn't identify the draft dodgers who hate this country.
>>78237468
>>78237686
Oops mateen was a fag
>>78238141
>We simply called ourselves a nation
aka the same thing the south did in the civil war. but from your post it seems as if you think the south should not be counted as the same country.
>>78237625
Oh god ,same here. I often think about America reacted after 911, and then I rage thinking how America would react if it happened today. Wed totally cuck out.
>>78237384
Empires are always expanding. The Champion is always getting challenged.
>>78238012
They didn't own land. You took terra nullius
I wonder what our total k:d ratio is im sure its a fantastic looking number
>>78238735
If you think they didn't consider that land their home and that they didn't fight for it, it may be safe to say you're retarded
>>78239019
how can they consider that land their home when they themselves had no concept of ownership? they were literally proto-communists in the sense that no one owned anything whatsoever
>>78238336
>Cis White Male Christians Must Answer for 9/11
>By Shlomo Shekelburg
>>78237523
kek
>>78239211
Well it was more the fact that we broke treaties and they didn't want to be confined to reservations
>>78238928
According to that one anon, we killed and genocided 80 million Narive Americans alone kek.
False number of course but hilarious non the less, and look at Germany, best they could do is 6 million :^)
>>78239305
>Jews are antiwar 9-11 inside jobbers
This is pol's thinking now.
Its like you were born after 2012 or something.
Okay, so I did a bit of Wikipedia'ng, and I think I found the 17 years they're talking about
1796
1797
1806
1807
1808
1809
1810
1816
1935
1936
1937
1938
1939
1940
1941
1996
1997
I'd personally count 1939-1941 part of the war since we were supporting supply lines to Britain in WW2. But yeah, a fuckload of continual Indian Wars and Central American Sphere influencing, plus counting all the Cold War as a war, means we haven't had many years out of conflict.
>>78238928
Whatever it is it isn't a scratch on ours, chap.
>>78237384
Fighting for freedom is a full time job.
>>78237384
You guys realise your economy is based on war right? It's why you always start them Iraq Lybia Syria.... You gotta protect that petro-dollar
I don't find anything wrong with it. The world is a dangerous and volatile place, and if we have the means to promote democracy, human rights, protect trade routes and further our economic and political ambitions, why not do it?
>>78239909
Yet Great Britain colonized half the world. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
>>78239756
We're working on it :^)
>>78239907
It's a hard, but rewarding job.
>>78239909
What ever gave you that ideal?
t. Military Industrial Complex
>>78237468
>First Post strikes gold again, this time with their hit single "Best Post"
>>78239741
I'm not really seeing a downside here, though...
>>78239741
The only thing I regret is that we have so many warless years...
what war was there between ww1 and ww2? this is way more tgan 17 tears
>>78237384
great... now i want to play world in conflict
>>78237384
In other words they've had a professional, trained military with actual combat experience for 293 years?
>>78237468
fpbp
>>78237468
trump is an isolationist you filth
>>78240620
Having a society that is mixed with Anglo and Germanic blood does make us a violent bunch.
>>78240660
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Wars
I'm surprised you never learned about this stuff in school, it directly concerns your neighbors.
>>78237384
Means that we can wage war for practically 200 years straight
Maybe if you started winning wars you wouldn't have to fight as long.
Most people only know the wars they hear in elementary school. I met a high schooler who didn't even know we went to Grenada.
>>78241141
We were just so good at winning that we got addicted.
We needed more.
>>78240660
Occupation of Haiti.
Although calling a lot of these things "wars" is a bit of an exaggeration, it's probably accurate that we at least had people with guns in situations where they might need to shoot at an enemy for those years.
Real question would be: what if we hadn't done any of that? What if we just sat here like Switzerland and played Neutral all the time?
Wonder what variety of shitshow the world would be.
>>78238036
The final year of current year will bring about a new first year.
FULL WAR NO BRAKES ALL RAPES
>>78241270
South America and the Caribbean would probably be a hell of a lot more stable. The Monroe Doctrine really fucked them over.
>>78237384
>hurr endless wars not in our national interest are a good thing for some reason
You're a faggot
>>78240122
>if we have the means to promote democracy, human rights, protect trade routes
When did /pol/ become filled with neocon faggots? I bet you people support Israel too
>>78240122
You're right, we should take on every issue in the world
>>78241402
The Monroe Doctrine was primarily to keep strong European powers out of the new world. A strong Spain, France, and Britain would have still have their influence there, and probably Germany too.
The only demand we place on them is not to swear fealty to powers outside the Americas. They are otherwise generally free to do what they want. It is no fault of ours that the people are vicious killer shitskins.
>>78241594
Neocon is just realism with American flavoring.
No world power can survive without realism.
>>78241594
I don't know, most of the wars the US has been in hasn't been to our best interest.
Would have liked to know what kind of world we would be living in right now if we hadn't got involved in WW2 via "surprise" attack.
I sincerely hope the people in favor of this shit don't claim to be anti-globalism. You are the globalists
>>78241834
>Neocon is just realism with American flavoring.
>>78237625
I miss 1830s-1850s Nationalism
Filibustering, stealing land from Mexico, bush wars with the British over pigs, Manifest Destiny, fistfights and canings on the floor of Congress.
Antebellum politics truly was the epitome of American masculinity in all it's violent glory.
>>78241834
Neoconservativism is hardly realism. Fighting endlessly in the Middle East has been bad for all parties involved. Your retarded democracy spreading is a fantasy
>>78241404
Name one war that wasn't in our interest you fucking faggot
That's impressive actually. America is always game ready.
>>78242052
Iraq/ all the other conflicts in the Middle East
Vietnam
Korea
>>78242052
WW2
Should have just fought the Japs and let Europe work it's own problems out on their own.
>>78237384
GOOD!
>>78241236
Winning? What war have we won since the second world war?
>>78242161
Still benefited from them
>>78241986
>stealing
>>78242240
South Korea would be as shirty as the North without us.
>>78242259
How? How are we bettercas a nation after all that shit?
>>78242142
Shame the same could not be said of our allies at times.
When are they going to mass produce more brooms for European armies anyways?
>>78242161
how is that not in our interest? korea is one of the most advanced countries now. opening up any shit hole for the free market is in our interest
>>78242379
*better as
>>78242208
We got most of the scientists and tech afterwards tho
>>78237384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jynTNYSKNuk
>>78237468
>pro-war
>posts Trump, who is an anti-war candidate
Do Trumpfags literally have single-digit IQs? Can you even use a computer with such a low IQ?
>>78242379
Created jobs at the time and boosted economy
>>78242356
That wasn't a win you nob, were still fucking there
>>78242430
So we should go into Africa and topple every regime not 100% free market for shekels? Let them fight their own battles, globalist Jew
>>78237384
At war for 222 out of 239 years and still the largest economy on the planet, are other nations even trying?
>>78242542
Was totally a win, look at North Korea. Annexing it would destroy the south, the objective isn't to take them only to keep them out.
>>78242443
I don't like commies ok, and the Third Reich was doing a good job of killing them. Why stop them from doing good work? Oh right, cause FDR was sucking Jew, Stalin and Churchill cock all at the same time.
>>78242240
Depends on how you define "winning".
You think it means conquering the territory and building skyscrapers on it.
It actually just means accomplishing some intended objective at acceptable cost. For example, Vietnam effectively broke the back of communism, particularly its idea of militant expansion, and ultimately contributed to the collapse of the Soviet Union, as the losses suffered by their proxies made them realize they were way behind on military technology and techniques. They broke their country trying to catch that up (not possible under a shitty communist economy).
So, sure, say we lost if it makes you happy, but in the end we were sitting pretty and the #1 enemy doctrine was busted up and left with a shithole country full of empty villages, corpses and unexploded ordinance.
>>78242531
So you're a Keynesian on top of being a neocon? If you really wanted the government to create jobs, surely there's a less costly way of doing it than going to war.
>boosted economy
Citation needed
>>78242612
Wouldn't be the largest economy without war
>>78242752
So you're saying the answer is no, other nations aren't even trying.
>>78242317
Although, for the record, our #1 supplier is Canada.
All of our other major suppliers are in South America.
Middle east oil goes to China and Europe. Really the only reason we care at all is that they impact global oil prices and it would be nice of a bunch of insane religious zealots didn't get overly loaded up on cash and power.
>>78242752
Yeah, our economy is he largest because we spend resources waging war in desert shitholes.
>>78242750
You think all the tanks, ammo, and other hardware appear out of thin air?
>>78242736
Didn't our fucking over the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 80s lead to it collapsing?
>>78242509
They only like Trump for the memes. A lot of Trump supporters like him because he's a dove on foreign policy
>>78239741
1816-1935
>mfw 81 years of continual warfare
>I'd personally count 1939-1941 part of the war since we were supporting supply lines to Britain in WW2.
Japs bombed us on December 7th, 1941 so we're already at war for 1941. The Krauts also torpedoed the Destroyer Reuben James (ironically a ship named after a supposed Jew) that October.
On top of that, we were already beginning secret preparations for war (arms manufacturing had already been restarted and the Army was drawing up plans for mass conscription).
Also, 1937 can be bumped off because Jap planes sank the USS Panay that year and the crew at one point returned fire.
>>78242979
Well, it is a bit like a welfare program for STEM careers.
Instead of the government raising taxes to pay unemployed people a bare minimum to live, they raise taxes to pay engineering students like $100,000 per year to develop missiles.
I do wonder what our economy would look like without all the war spending. Would certainly be more diverse, if nothing else.
>>78243148
No, but what about the other industries that saw their workforce shrink as resources were pulled into making weapons? What about my other question? If you believe large government expenditure is necessary for the economy, why does that have to go to the most costly venture?
sorry for party rocking.
>>78237523
I don't get this but I want to
>>78242000
It wasn't bad for the arms dealers.
>>78241969
>hates Jews but won't use their tactics
Who's the actual Jew?
>>78243545
Read image in OP
>>78243561
>Who's the actual Jew?
Clearly you
>>78243212
I'm sure it helped but I think Afghanistan is overrated. That was only about 15,000 Russians killed.
>>78242344
The legality of the Mexican-American War has long been a matter of dispute. Even at the time, many, including future opponents Robert E. Lee and Ulysses Grant opposed it as unnecessary adventurism.
Even the pro-slavery zealot John C. Calhoun denounced it as an Abolitionist conspiracy to flood the country with races "ignorant and unfit for liberty" (referring to Mexicans), and destroy the institution of slavery by adding new free states.
>>78237384
Gotta justify having such a fuck huge standing army somehow.
>>78243344
Your theory is shitty and you should feel bad
Islam has been at war for the last 1400 years. We're way behind.
>>78244212
Why aren't they a superpower
>>78240929
Why do people say this? He's said multiple times he will wage war with ISIS.
Like, fuck off. We get that he is, but clearly isn't against actual enemies that pose a threat. Once they are out, he'll not do shit.
>>78239741
96/97 are also somewhat suspect because we were still flying missions in iraq during that time
>>78242979
War, in its current state, is not intended to end.
hence 9/11 was created to create a stage of infinite warfare in the middle east, fighting shit skins in caves that we will never end up finding.
How do shit skins living in caves have the funds to conduct these large scale terrorists acts? they dont. We are in war because the masters of mankind want us to be. when in war, the government is required to borrow more money from the reserve, thus creating more debt and owed money, thus supplying the special interests in control of the whole operation.
There is a reason we didnt end the Vietnam war.
>>78237742
1812?
>>78239019
wew, was that guy the original JUST?
>>78244261
They were
>>78237523
MODS
>>78244386
>How do shit skins living in caves have the funds to conduct these large scale terrorists acts? they dont
Except for, you know, all the money they get from the abundant amounts of oil in the middle east, you fucking retard.
>>78237468
Just imagine the raiding the lands from the two rivers...and of course renovating with a colonial state in Basra
>>78238141
Vietnam, Korea, dessert storm
>>78237384
>global empire/superpower is engaged in perpetual warfare
>like every other empire in world history
>>78237468
this
it's a fucking disgraceful waste
Roman Empire was as war for all but 2 years
Retards count things as war that clearly aren't, like A-stan for example. Even Vietnam wasn't a war, it was a police action.
America is actually the most peaceful nation in the world. It's just that we live in a sick time in history where there are people running around who are addicted to getting shot at. It's like the national equivalent of death-by-cop.
>>78244261
Because they suck at fighting
>>78243545
Let that SINK IN for a moment.
>>78238012
>Buying land legally owned by france
>having a fair fight with the Mexicans over their land
>they lose
>somehow we are the ones who stole.
>>78246528
>>78237523
This is the shittiest joke I have heard in a long time
Mcfucking kill yourself
>>78244179
Well all the military spending is really just to maintain war industries should they be actually needed. Why do you think the F35 program took so long? The Gov knows it needs to keep stringing industry along should any other great power emerge. Though I agree, if it wasn't for the military the government wouldn't be within a hundred miles of the sciences.
>>78237834
>>78245705
Iraq was our fuck up
>>78237384
It means I should play some World in Conflict.
>>78237742
I'm all for patriotism but are you retarded? America literally funds the overthrowing of other countries and creates conflicts in order to goto war
>>78237468
>>78242240
Both wars in iraq. Afghanistan. Korean war. Panama.grenada. cold war.
>>78242542
Look at both countries and determine who won. North invaded the south to conquer it and now the south is still there and its rich while the north is poor.
>>78244261
They keep blowing themselves up
The absolute madmen
>>78237384
Maybe if the other countries of the world would get their shit together.
>>78237523
i get it
>go into shithole
>blow up all the commies
>set up democracy meme
>set up bases everywhere
>shithole becomes major trade partner
We've got this thing figured out
>>78239741
Wait, did the war of 1810 not happen in 1810?
>>78248151
>Korean war.
>>78238336
>This is the fault of Trump's violent rhetoric
>>78237384
It's not actually true, though.
>>78249770
How so?
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/america-war-93-time-222-239-years-since-1776.html
We are Rome, we are an Empire. We are doing everything we can to stay alive and its collapsing us in the process. We dont have much longer.
We wage war while we collapse from the inside and try to pander to tribes that live within our borders in a futile attempt to strengthen us.
>>78237384
You americunts don't understand what war really is. The last time you were at war was during your Civil War. Even WW2 can't fully be construed as American being at war.
Since the Civil War you burgers have always had the luxury of indulging in one of the most tactically retarded military maxims ever, namely "no man left behind". Every war since then has pretty much been a game for you people, always going into other peoples' countries to have some fun and shoot a few hostiles.
You think you can afford "no man left behind" when an enemy has invaded your land, your cities are being bombed and your defences are overrun?
So no, America has not been at war, it has been out playing at war.
>>78251066
LMAO! Ok, kid.
>>78251264
>>78251313
>>78251351
>>78251393
>>78251434
>>78251264
You know how retarded it is that you try to show off the military might of your country, when in the age of the atom bomb and the ICBM?
You think your F-22s and aircraft carriers will protect you from that?
>>78251647
Good luck surviving after launching one.
>>78237384
fuck man that game was bretty gud
>>78237384
Most jewed country wich ever was.
>>78251647
>>78252140
>not the EU
Ok, kid.
>>78252225
Not to mention bases worldwide.
>>78252731
>>78251647
Stop embarrassing our country you dumb idiot
Usa can beat the entire world. Do you think spending the past 40 years and hundreds of billions on nuclear defense came without result? Le icmb slbm mad meme just shows how clueless people are
Freedom and peace are incompatible
>>78252731
tfw the US doesn't have "significant US military presence"
>>78242736
No. Vietnam was a defeat. Your goals were clear for everyone to see and the Democrats did not allow you to help when North Vietnam attacked.
It was a clear defeat and besides, you lost many soldiers fighting VIETNAMESE trained by the soviet union who didnt even have to use their own soldiers to defeat you.
The same is american
