Calling all Christians!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9p---FA48s
>>78193870
I decided to become a Christian again this morning. Am I allowed?
Also, for discussion, what church do you attend?
>>78194191
Apostates can always return to the faith.
I'm Orthodox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9zP59_98s8
post yfw those people believe in fairy tales are making the life of the people around them worse
this applies to all religions
>>78194592
Do you think the spread of atheism improves our culture and lives?
>>78194592
>posts Descartes
>a dude literally defending the existence of God
>mfw
>>78194805
yes
>>78195057
that or he would have his head chopped
>>78195439
In this day and age, we atheists should be more pro Christianity .
The only way To fight the religion of piss
>>78193870
>>>/x/ is over there
>>78194191
>I decided to become a Christian
Why?
>for discussion, what church do you attend?
I've always gone the Army cause that's where my family attends.
>>78193870
Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch here.
>>78195970
with a non-pope like the one we have right now?
I prefer to use reason against the shitskins
>>78193870
Im questioning being a diest and decided to go to church last sunday to a local church. Not a single degenerate. Happy families dresses well all in community. Im going back for sure
>>78195970
In this day and age, we atheists should be more pro islam hate**
ftfy
>>78196384
I agree abour the RCC< but I'm Orthodox
>>78196384
It didn't work until now and will never work.
You are right about the pope tho.
I guess what I'm trying to say is by giving up on our religion we let the muslims force theirs on us .
Praise Kek
>>78196820
>I guess what I'm trying to say is by giving up on our religion we let the muslims force theirs on us .
this is why I hate religions
If a religion is used a particular lifestyle I'm ok with this. You can live as you like. But it is when it mixes with politics that the problems start, like claiming you can't do something because God told so when in reality another man just told that.
Muslims will slowly refuse their religion and will finally accept how powerful unique reason is
We laugh at the men who prayed stones and dead animal, we will laugh at men who pray on warlords and merchants
>>78197448
its like how religions treat everyone else that doesn't agree with them.
>>78196824
That's blasphemous
>>78197448
Enjoy your amoral society
>>78198241
morality isn't tied to religions
>>78198213
do you realize Religions have dogmas? try to argue with that
>>78198420
>morality isn't tied to religions
No, but feminism or communism or something like that takes over as the basis for morality without religion.
>>78198420
I do. That's kind of the whole point. Lol.
>>78198576
christians are communists and racemixers
>>78198639
you can't argue with dogmas
>>78198576
True, but you're making a shit comparison. Are you implying atheists have to believe in those choices?
>>78198753
Sure you can. Morality is a great example. If you think the christian god is moral, then we can discuss it further.
>>78198886
Who is this christian god you mentioned? Did he write some books or made a documentary?
>>78199065
No. I'm an atheist, i'm thinking there's confusion somewhere here.
>>78199202
probably :)
Roman Catholic checking in
>>78199338
I'm sure he's on youtube turning water into wine or something similar.
I'm currently an atheist but want to get into Christianity, what do ?
>>78193870
Are we living in the end times brothers ?
>>78199549
Of what?
>>78198753
>christians are communists and racemixers
Christianity is philosophically socialist, but that has never been a part of Christian politics.
Racemixing is not commanded by Christianity anywhere. Not segregating worship based on race, yes, but no where does it say you have to date and marry outside your race. In fact, the book on "Contemporary Moral Issues' at my Orthodox parish says you shouldn't marry outside your race, since it makes the marriage less likely to endure (don't know how true that is though).
>>78199529
Here's a place you can start, contains an FAQ for atheists: http://pastebin.com/bN1ujq2x
>>78193870
nice hymn but fuck me english does it no justice
This is a pick of an Orthodox Church in Iran
>>78199913
Yeah, I'm familiar with it, it's very beautiful.
Remember ladies and gens, Pol is a christian forum.
>>78193870
Due to a big demographic shift, your religion is on the way out in Europe and you've done it to yourself. How do your propose to fix this? How do you propose to deal with radical leftist protestant churches in Scandinavia, Germany and the UK and the ever increasing leftist drift of the Catholic Church?
These are the issues I want to see solved, not because I care about your religion but because it used to be a wall against Islamization and is now facilitating it.
>>78199652
Of the world,or is it soon the second comming of Christ,i know that in the story of Revalations 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars,this reminds me of the Angela Merkel and the EU
>>78199659
do you really think he cares about your problems? if you are poor and oppressed?
No, every religious leader just wants more proselytes.
Would you negate your daughter's vulva to an handsome man from Africa when GOD™ told you to be charitable to the needy?
>>78199529
>want to get into Christianity,
Why?
>>78199549
Yeah, Jesus is gonna come back soon. Won't be long before it finally happens.
>>78200350
He's late
>>78200242
I'm Orthodox, not Roman Catholic, the Pope is just an heretic to us, he has no authority.
>>78199549
Absolutely.
Keep God, Christ, and the Holy Ghost in you.
Here is what will happen;
The "breath of life" into the "image of the beast" to allow it to speak and move and command the death of those who don't worship it; well, that breath of life will be sentient AI. The image of the beast will be a machine, a non-living body, a robot.
Now, the mark of the beast, that will come to us as the opportunity to "upload our brains." The ruse of eternal life through machines will convince many, and they will "upload" themselves only to guarantee their death right then or, as we know, after the second coming.
Those who refuse, will be persecuted, as the world will no longer be physical. It will be virtual - Brains in machines. You will not be able to buy or sell as there will be nobody to buy or sell to. And with everyone in machines, the genocide of those who refused this 'mark' will be easy.
Look at this, Christbros.
>>78200112
>>78200112
>>78200112
>>78200112
>>78200633
Catholicism=Orthodoxy>Protestantism>Everything Else>islam is my scale of the world's religions desu.
>>78200633
and the Patriarchs?
didn't Jesus said give water to the thirsty, give food to the hungry, so give pussy to the horny
>>78201177
Oh, please.
Shitty bait. To "give pussy to the horny" is to do something very immoral. Sex is between a man and a woman in marriage. It is not something meant for anything else.
Better bait would be "give wives to the lonely" but then it still stomps on the fundamental concept that marriage if a bond of love, and you can't truly love who you are pushed to marry.
>>78200937
>>78200350
Thank you my brotherin
>>78201372
so let me reword it
give water to the thirsty, give food to the hungry, give wives to the refugees
God told us to love each other, why don't you love and accept the precious seed of a cultured and classy man from the desert?
>>78200227
And that's how that verse is interpreted? I suppose everyone who believes the word of the bible can do what you're doing now and think its true.
>>78201779
I just explained to you why even revising your bait makes it shitty.
To specifically offer up our women is sinful, as it denies the truth of love, it denies the fact marriage is built on love.
And most women can't truly love sandniggers. Catholic/Orthodox/Truly Christian women at least.
>>78202050
>To specifically offer up our women is sinful
are you saying all the priests, patriarchs and the Pope himself are sinful and guided by the Devil?
So who I do believe if the only people that have the priviledge to talk with GOD are not doing what HE believes is right to do?
>>78201979
Well it in intepreted as the first family of Isreal
>>78202447
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/dont-let-muslim-refugees-says-bulgarias-orthodox-church-1024482681
>>78199529
http://www.vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html#“I believe” – “We believe”
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/470/470-h/470-h.htm#chap01
http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/130/pg130-images.html
https://www.dacc.edu/assets/pdfs/PCM/merechristianitylewis.pdf
http://www.documentacatholicaomnia.eu/03d/1380-1471,_Kempis._Thomas,_The_Imitation_Of_Christ,_EN.pdf
http://www.quies.org/Spiritual-Combat_Scupoli.pdf
>>78202683
so let's be clear Is God Racist or not?
>>78195970
It's fine to push Atheism on non-Christians, it's better than whatever else they were believing, I tend to do that and just leave the Christians alone.
>>78202870
I think Dugin says it best
>I consider the “White nationalists” allies when they refuse modernity, the global oligarchy and liberal-capitalism, in other words everything that is killing all ethnic cultures and traditions. The modern political order is essentially globalist and based entirely on the primacy of individual identity in opposition to community. It is the worst order that has ever existed and it should be totally destroyed. When “White nationalists” reaffirm Tradition and the ancient culture of the European peoples, they are right. But when they attack immigrants, Muslims or the nationalists of other countries based on historical conflicts; or when they defend the United States, Atlanticism, liberalism or modernity; or when they consider the White race (the one which produced modernity in its essential features) as being the highest and other races as inferior, I disagree with them completely.
>More than this, I can’t defend Whites when they are in opposition to non-Whites because, being White and Indo-European myself, I recognize the differences of other ethnic groups as being a natural thing, and do not believe in any hierarchy among peoples, because there is not and cannot be any common, universal measure by which to measure and compare the various forms of ethnic societies or their value systems. I am proud to be Russian exactly as Americans, Africans, Arabs or Chinese are proud to be what they are. It is our right and our dignity to affirm our identity, not in opposition to each other but such as it is: without resentment against others or feelings of self-pity.
cont
>>78203401
>I can’t defend the concept of the nation, because the idea of the “nation” is a bourgeois concept concocted as a part of modernity in order to destroy traditional societies (empires) and religions, and to replace them with artificial pseudo-communities based on the notion of individualism. All of that is wrong. The concept of the nation is now being destroyed by the same forces that created it, back during the first stage of modernity. The nations have already fulfilled their mission of destroying any organic and spiritual identity, and now the capitalists are liquidating the instrument they used to achieve this in favor of direct globalization. We need to attack capitalism as the absolute enemy which was responsible for the creation of the nation as a simulacrum of traditional society, and which was also responsible for its destruction. The reasons behind the present catastrophe lie deep in the ideological and philosophical basis of the modern world. In the beginning, modernity was White and national; in the end, it has become global. So White nationalists need to choose which camp they want to be in: that of Tradition, which includes their own Indo-European tradition, or that of modernity. Atlanticism, liberalism, and individualism are all forms of absolute evil for the Indo-European identity, since they are incompatible with it.
>>78202451
and that makes it right?
>>78202870
Why you guys feeding this troll? He clearly trying to bait us.
>>78203401
>>78203436
I'm not a suprematist (obviously) and I think that globalism as every other political matter shouldn't be justified by religious dogmas
I think the roots of Nations are in the people and in what they make.
Priests, imams and what not are nothing more that despots thirsty of power.
Now I'm sorry anons
keep discussing
>>78203468
I dont know,i am uncurtain
>>78204373
You weren't a curtain in the first place.
>>78204253
Your conception of nation divorced from religion didn't exist until the Enlightenment.
>>78204461
Was that a bad thing?
>>78193870
I need help.
I was baptised as a member of the Church of England but never attended Church as a child or as an adult. My parents cared enough to baptise me 'just in case' but not enough to go to Church.
I have only ever attended Church to go to relatives Weddings and Funerals.
I wish to become a real Christian but I don't know what to do. How do you start attending Church if you never did so before. Do you just turn up and sit down? How does it work?
>>78201779
And this how i know you are germanic
Only a germanic would be this stupid
This is now an Islam thread
>>78204433
That is correct,could you now pleas make me curtain
>>78204851
You will have to ask your god
Guys where do i find a good christian girl that's waifu material? All the ones at my church are taken.
>>78205170
Pray.
>>78193870
Fuck off you degenerate western disguised jew
>>78205133
I belive in Jesus Christ,and is it not duty to every Christian if a fellow brother in Christ shifts his path from Christ to get him back on the path of Christ ?
>>78204830
>le 8 years old wife with le flaming angel muh made up jewish cult with a bit of killing, rape and forced salvation of all mankind religion
just maniacs believe in this shit
>but anon le 40 virgins
for each demon 40 muslims buttholes and a blowjob from Mohamed
>>78205209
lol this guy
>>78204570
The church I am at, we do an hour of reading of our bible study books that we get each season, then we sing some church songs and the pastor preach the word of the day at the end. It's all good desu.
>>78204570
You need to Repent and put your trust in Christ alone for your salvation, this is what you must do to be saved
Read Romans 1
John 3
Romans 10
Latin Roman Catholic here.
Can any of the Orthodoxbros in this thread explain the essences/energies thing? Because it's very confusing.
>>78205576
I thought that was the answer you guys wanted.
>>78205170
Convert one to Christianity!
>>78193870
>>78205760
An analogy:
If you spent some time with me IRL, you would get to know me based on the things I say and do, how I react to different situations, etc. We may even become best friends over time, and spend lots of time together.
But you would never know my internal dialogue, my thoughts, my gut feelings, etc. I could describe them, but you would never know them the way I know myself.
That is my "essence." It is the part of me that is unknowable to anyone but myself. My "energies" are all the observable things: what I say and do.
The same is with God. His "energies" are his divine revelation, his love, his grace, his justice, and every way he makes himself known. His "essence" is a complete mystery.
In Orthodox theology, God's energies are God Himself. God's grace is God himself.
The West teaches that grace is a created thing, a spiritual "thing" that God gives to people. But for Orthodoxy, grace (and all of God's energies) are God Himself, and He "gives" us these things by our participation in the life of God. In fact, Orthodoxy has defined the idea of "created grace" as heresy.
This is important because of our understanding of salvation as theosis, rather than a judgement.
>>78205836
Ehhh dont sweat it fag, it was kinda funny. Im just looking for a good girl to start a family with since i have money and want to settle down and i rather start looking now since it takes a few years. Best relationships i had were with Christian / Catholic girls.
>>78206273
>>78206273
Iv kinda converted maybe 2 or 3 girls. It takes so much of my own time molding them tho. I mean that might be all women but it applies more.
>>78207346
I've never had sex or any relations with a man, and have been with the same girl for over five years after a handful of others. No.
In all seriousness, catholic girls are fucking crazy. Just don't.
>>78207175
Huh, gotcha. Thanks!
I feel like this is the biggest issue standing between our churches, then. Way bigger than the filioque, which as I see it is a non-issue, just some people not realizing that "proceed" has subtleties in different languages.
Anyone else planning on having 10 kids when they get married?
>>78193870
What is the Halo, exactly? Why does it have such intricate designs too?
Sometimes whenever I get extremely inspired I feel something rising in my head....could that be some sort of halo?
>>78196046
a few reasons.
I feel empty, and i've always been hungry for spiritual understanding, although i tend to be skeptical. its not fun.
When I was young, my parents taught me some Christian things, but they weren't really the religious types. As an edgy teen, I was an atheist and became involved in LaVeyan satanism. But that lost its novelty quick.
I met this Paki girl I wanted to fuck in high school and decided to give Islam a try (didn't work). I saw how shitty that was quickly as well. I decided to shop around for Christian churches, and became LDS. It was fun and the people were great, albeit odd. I stopped attending because as a convert I felt really isolated. Everything in that culture is family-orientated, and the loneliness got to me. Not to mention I couldn't stop the porn, swearing, coffee, etc. Now that I am using more substances than before (weed, alcohol) I don't think it would be easy to go back.
I still love reading the Bible though. So I decided maybe now, years later I could give religion another try. The Holy war between Muslims and everyone else is coming, too. I want to be on the non-savage side and be protected by God.
>>78193870
Forgive us Lord. Thank God for Jesus
>>78209473
You can always go back, it's never too late to repent. You don't want to be in a situation where you need to repent, but it's too late. Some of the most strongest christians I meet are the ones that almost lost their life to sin and was able to get their life back together by giving it to Jesus.
>>78207706
>catholic girls are fucking crazy. Just don't.
Kinda agree with this, kinda. From my experience catholic girls are a hit or miss on the crazy. But im one of few guys that can handle crazy girls, but only if they're really attractive. Like i made this beautiful pale skinned, blue eyed brunette wear an outfit like a toga dress and veil around the house and give me massages at a moments notice. She'd also act like a social buffer and even put up with a little abuse if i was having a bad day or if she was annoying me. She'd get really jealous tho but then again i like it when a crazy bitch obsesses over me and treats me like im her world and i can defuse bitch outlashes with humor.
>>78208517
Probably a shitpost but if your serious you realize unless you're a richfag you cant financially handle 10 children right? You might be able to if you'ref a fucking farmer or you feel like being a tax drain. The most children you can raise at a responsibility while maintaining a quality is 3 or 4, maybe 5 or 6 if you're upper middle class and even then you're going to be strain as you have to give personal attention to each one of them.
I wanna have 4 kids myself btw, hopefully no more then 2 girls or else i'd kill myself.
>>78211931
I don't need luxuries. You just have to be frugal, how do you think people did it in the past with even less income? I might not have 10 kids but I still want lots.
>>78193870
Eastern Orthodox here
Serious question, what proof is there that Christianity is the one true religion? What convinces you guys that Christ's way is the right way?
>>78209473
I'm seriously considering Eastern Orthodoxy, but I have trouble convincing myself of the one true church deal. The liturgy and art is just so beautiful.
>>78214107
What kind of proof are you looking for? Theological proof, empirical evidence?
>>78214107
Historical evidence
>>78214107
Only through the blood of Jesus that you can be given eternal life in heaven. It's the only way.
>>78214834
>Theological proof, empirical evidence?
I guess both. Muslims, Jews, and maybe even some Hindus think their religion is the only way to salvation. How would I know which one is legitimately true?
Best Church coming through.
what's the best stylized cross and why is it st. james'?
>>78193870
protestantism is blasphemy. orthodox is the only way
>>78216179
If you want the closest thing to physical proof, there's the Incorrupt or the Miracle of Lanciano. But even those require some amount of faith that they weren't faked.
I, for one, have never felt God's presence emotionally, so I can't base it on that. I'm a Catholic because I believe it's right, so really I've just chosen to believe it axiomatically.
Latin-Rite Catholic here.
Orthodoxbros, how do you feel about us? Ignoring the crazies who buy into the German bishops' heresies.
I always feel like we have a more positive view of you guys than you do of us.
>>78216586
Protestantism fag here, you have to be baptist to be born again in the spirit. I treat Orthodox like I treat Mormon or Catholic, an off brand of Christianity. At least we follow the Bible to the letter.
>>78218740
>Orthodox and Catholic
>off brand of Christianity
Enjoy being rebel scum.
How's that Epistle of James treating you, by the way?
>>78219534
>Orthodox and Catholic
Just going to ask, what's the difference between Catholic and Orthodox? From what iv read into they seem like the same thing.
>>78219534
I love reading the Epistle of James. Makes me want to be a pastor.
>>78193870
kys faggit
>>78219730
Only two things really.
>should the Pope be the head of all the bishops? (Cath: yes, Orth: no)
>are God's acts part of God himself? (Cath: no, Orth: yes)
There used to be the whole "Filioque" argument about the Trinity, too, but turns out that it's just the idiosyncrasies of Latin vs. Greek tripping people up.
Most Orthodox believe in purgatory, too, but they tend to not like to use the term "purgatory."
The two of them together comprise the descendants of the original Nicene Church.
>>78220726
Aye thanks. I kinda figured that was the case with the pope but wasn't sure. I think i might technically be Orthodox. One thing tho.
>are God's acts part of God himself? (Cath: no, Orth: yes)
Dont exactly get what the meaning of this is, does it mean man is responsible for himself / you cant control god's destiny if he has a plan for you?
>>78221912
No problem!
Nah, both churches believe 100% in free will. The post >>78207175 is from an Orthodox perspective, where God's actions are called his "energies."
hey guys how's it going?
>>78196824
disgusting
Sedevacantist Catholic here
May the Lord our God bless you all and keep you. May you have happy lives.
Even you jew
>>78228342
Do you get grief by novus ordo mesi fags?
>>78229793
Thanks. You too
If you support abortion you are satanic.
>>78193870
remove Evangelical heretics
>>78193870
If one is a sedevacanist is it OK to get baptized by a priest who is still in communion with the pope? I heard that anyone can administer baptism though only with the right intention.
What about confirmation?
>>78230863
If SSPX and FSSP is far away from you, then I think it's okay to just go to the most traditional parish you can find. Sacraments are all valid.
>>78230746
That's...kinda fucked up.
The Baptist church I attended even passes around platters with cups and crackers on them.
>>78230746
Lutheran is best everyone else fuck off
>>78231326
What's wrong with that
>>78205760
God's Essence is God as infinitely transcendent and unknowable., God's energies is God as immanent in his creation and sustaining it.
>>78230746
Yeah so you guys can burn all the bibles that aren't in Latin and start the 1400s again
>>78217506
We see you as heretics, though obviously not as bad as some of the others out there.
>>78231450
I wouldn't say that, God is personal, and his transcendent qualities show his existence
>>78231449
It seems a little disrespectful to make it into a ketchup packet.
At least pretend to care.
>>78230500
Thanks northern friend
>>78231889
That's mostly for like mega churches, were they provide it for 1000s of people, my church passes trays with little cups and crackers
>>78230746
Is plastic satanic or something?
>>78216179
1) Jesus Christ himself. No one else in history talks with such authority and in such a way concerning existence, evil and himself.
2) The Prophecies about him. Especially this one:
http://www.reasons.org/articles/was-jesus-arrival-accurately-predicted-in-the-bible
https://carm.org/does-daniel-9-24-27-predict-jesus
3) The logic of the Resurrection:
http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/resurrection-evidence.htm
4) Personal experience. Jesus promises everlasting peace, joy, life and freedom from sin. He has so far completely held up his part of the bargain.
>>78231449
You are turning the symbol of the body and blood of Christ into something you serve at parties.
Actually serving people loaves of bread and wine on a decent cup would've been much better than fucking crackers and some kind of "drank" on a plastic cup.
>>78232236
It's just bread and juice. They don't even consecrate it. Protestants don't care about the eucharist, they are heretics. They see it as symbolic, but it's not. It's literally the body and blood of christ. But not when they do it, because they do it wrong.
>>78232072
The church I mentioned in my previous post often had an attendance of 5000 people.
>>78231751
His transcendence is beyond all access though, that's part of being infinitely transcendent. God's energies though are 100% God, uncreated, and something we can personally know. Biblically, they are generally referred to as "grace".
>>78232436
A fellow Carm user
>>78232471
Protestants claimbto to follow the Bible better than Catholics yet completely ignore this.
>>78232442
Well the bread in Israel would have been Un leveaned, we put them in separate cups for medical reasons
Although I used to go to a Methodist church were we dipped the bread into the cup
>>78232495
And you all drink from the same cup?
>>78232436
The power of suggestion is a heavily underutilized facet of rhetoric. *winky face*
>>78232654
But Jesus was both God and man
>>78232664
Yeah they have some good articles on there! I highly recommend this site too:
http://christianthinktank.com/
I feel like I am called to preach. Has anyone had success in bringing the gospel to those who are lost?
>>78232972
You're quite ignorant if you think you could reduce it completely to that.
>>78232730
Drinking Blood is a pagan thing, God made the Israelites abstain from this practice
Jesus issued lords supper prior to him spilling his blood, so it couldn't have been his blood then
>>78233207
The joke went over your head
>>78233099
That's good, do you watch the Bible Thumping Wing Nut
>>78233124
It's hard to say,
>>78233278
Then why did Jesus say to drink his blood and eat his flesh? Why have many miracles confirmed that it is his literal body and blood?
>>78233372
>Bible Thumping Wing Nut
No never heard of it, but I'll check it out.
>>78233304
Yeah sorry, it did.
>>78193870
I converted to Christianity (specifically Protestantism, the religion of my family) from atheism thanks to /pol/ and I don't give a fuck who laughs at me. I feel a lot better knowing that I am a child of God. I feel a lot better reclaiming my identity. Thanks /pol/.
>>78233124
I just converted a year ago so I don't have much experience in bringing in other converts yet, but I study weekly with a preacher who is pretty successful. All I can tell you from watching him is just study constantly- know your Bible, and and also be very persistent, patient, and unafraid of people lashing back at you. I would talk to your local church leaders though, I'm sure they could help you out.
>>78233047
Correct. Jesus is the Logos, the Second Person of the Trinity, incarnate as man. There is but one essence of the Trinity, though, and it is inaccessible to us; Christ had this essence, but it was inaccessible. The energies of God were made manifest during the Transfiguration though.
>>78233464
What miracles
>>78194418
From a Protestant to an Orthodox, how can you justify using the Julian calendar? I understand that it's the same one used during the time of Christ but over time the Orthodox Easter slid so far that the day was remembered better as a number than its actual point relative to the March Equinox.
I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just genuinely curious.
>>78233464
If that verse means communion, than we have another problem
Romans 4
Romans 5:1
Eph 2:8-10
>>78233565
Matt slick, the founder of CARM is on it
>>78234399
they'd have to reprogram all their computers if they changed it.
>>78193870
Was thinking about going back to church. I was one of those people that started watching porn in 4th grade, started downloading murder/suicide vids the next year and never looked back. For whatever reason I only just recently realized how desensitized I am to everything and how I've fried my brain on so much garbage. I quit watching porn and going to gore sites a while back but I'm still hesitant to go to church.
How do you guys juggle being a church going Christian and coming to 4chan? I feel like the person I've been all these years isn't really who I am, like my actions-alcohol, drugs, porn, watching all this gore garbage without feeling bad and perverting my mind, doesn't match my core beliefs and yet I've been doing it for so long, I feel like Zoolander when he looks at his reflection in that puddle and asks "Who am I?"
Can I become more "normal" by spending time around positive Christian people and refraining from all the garbage on the internet? Please explain.
>>78233588
Really, are you ready to give a testimony
>>78193870
Any fellow Anglicans here today?
>>78234558
Have you put your trust alone in Christ for your salvation
>>78193870
Damn. I'm late to the party again.
>>78234293
Just google eucharistic miracles. I have to go to sleep now good night. God bless.
I remember back to being 3 years old when I was self aware and seeing all the Jesus paraphernalia my parents had hanging around the house. There was one in particular, that gave me a rivers of chills and it was the iconic picture of Jesus levitating a bleeding heart with thorns over his left hand.
I asked my father, who is this man and he replies. "That's the all father, that is god."
I asked him who is god.
And he responds, "the man that created from the water in the oceans to the stars in the sky."
By 7 years old I remember spending several hours trying to figure out logically, if God created us, then who created God.
During these thoughts. I recall seeing in my mind I was visually experiencing now looking back, 5 dimensional loops of God creating himself in infinity till one day he created the angels and then eventually the universe, and then the stars, and eventually us.
I realized at that age, God was self efficient and self replicating. In the beginning there was god, and in the end there will be God.
For God is timeless, and God is all powerful and all knowing.
And we are on borrowed time, meek, and limited with our comprehension.
To understand how God came to be and the rest of all of creation isn't something we will never fully be able to understand.
But what I do know with the utmost certainty of my heart, that those that seek and respect god by following the 10 commandments will be granted with him indirectly revealing his almighty love and power.
>>78234399
It's not just the Julian Calendar. For us, Pascha (referred to as Easter outside of Orthodoxy) must be celebrated *after* Passover (Pascha is literally Greek for Passover). Our date therefore rotates quite a bit, and sometimes even falls on yours.
>>78234722
Hope you aren't an Episcopalian
>>78234999
I knew as soon I was typing this i was going to get a get.
Thanks, G
>>78234728
Not quite, I believe in God and always have but for some reason feel like he won't save me.
>>78194191
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u_BohE4Ze8
welcome home
>>78234999
>But what I do know with the utmost certainty of my heart, that those that seek and respect god by following the 10 commandments will be granted with him indirectly revealing his almighty love and power.
>following the 10 commandments
How is that going for you, anon?
"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one;" Romans 3:10 (KJV)
"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God," Romans 3:23 (KJV)
>>78235219
Why not
>>78193870
Man..sometimes I wish I was religious. I'm doomed to hell if there is one.
>>78233588
Same bro.
>>78235148
Lol no. I'm pretty traditional.
>>78235514
Check this out
>>78199778
>>78233588
>>78234509
Sweet, then I'll likely enjoy it. Thanks, anon!
Here's a lovely poem by Emily Dickinson:
The Savior must have been
A docile Gentleman—
To come so far so cold a Day
For little Fellowmen—
The Road to Bethlehem
Since He and I were Boys
Was leveled, but for that 'twould be
A rugged Billion Miles—
>>78235514
What's keeping you from putting your trust in Christ
Here's my story for whatever it's worth:
For weeks I had this mystery illness where I was always feeling faint and this dread that I was going to drop dead any second. My doctor prescribed some drugs but they didn't help. One night at work when it was really bad I remembered reading on /pol/ that someone said that God gave him all he ever prayed for, so I decided to give it a try. Immediately after I finished my ramble of a prayer I felt this intense tingling all throughout my body, as if someone dumped a bucket of ice water on my head. It was cold but it didn't hurt, it legitimately felt like I was being blessed then and there. I stood up, and I didn't feel faint at all. I looked around and felt no dizziness. I was cured completely.
>>78235219
Oh look. Another guy who thinks his sins are too terrible for an omnipotent Creator Deity to forgive.
I pray that God moves in your life to show you how wrong you are in this regard. Everything you know is wrong. You're a child who is lost; you think your world is ending just because you are not now where you are supposed to be. Soon, you will see that all was fine all along, and it was merely your perception that was wrong.
>>78235797
Miracles happen
>>78235399
Perhaps you have broken the 10 commandments, but I have always abide by them.
Perhaps that is the reason why you cant experience God's glory
I notice /pol/ seems a lot more Christian/religious in general lately. Is that due to Islamic violence convincing you that Christianity maybe isn't quite so bad as you thought, in comparison?
>>78236004
Bomber recently tried to kill the Patriarch of the Syrian Church during his remembrance of the Turkish genocide of Assyrians.
>>78235407
Not sure, I've had a negative voice in my head for a long time, not saying it's demonic even though it has crossed my mind, but the voice always has to chime in and its always negative. For example when I do think about going to church this voice will come in and say something like "Why go? He can't save you, just keep doing what you've been doing, thats who you really are and you can't change that"
I sound crazy I know, but I figure if anyone would try to understand it would be here.
>>78236004
No, but I can't stand Islam, sends people to hell, and spreads via jihad
>>78236113
Nobody cares about Christianity doing shitty stuff when Islam does 100x the shit, and is 100% degenerate as opposed to Christianity which is like 20% degenerate
>>78234999
>>78235978
>>78235978
You're breaking the 10 commandments right now, in lying to me. You can't have followed the 10 commandments, because it is literally impossible. Your very being is in defiance of God. We broke every commandment as soon as we were born into this world.
And the second part of your post is absolute rubbish. It is just trying to prey on doubts that I have in my own walk with God. Your lies have no power over me, I am protected by the blood of the Risen Christ.
>>78235331
Please add ACNA, they are the conservative Anglicans.
>>78193870
Deus Vult brother
>>78236133
You need to get on your hands and knees, Go into prayer, and beg God for a changed mind,
After you do this, you need to put your trust in Christ alone for your salvation
If you do this and take it seriously, you will be saved
Read these chapters if you need biblical confirmation on what I am saying
Romans 1
John 3
Romans 10
After you get saved, find a bible based church were you can grow in your knowledge of God
If the voices come back, Read 1 John the whole letter, it gives assurance to those who are saved
>>78236379
Keep in mind, too, how Jesus expanded the law. This guy says he hasn't broken the Ten Commandments. Well, fine. It's not true, but even if it is Jesus said that if you ever even hate another, that's equivalent to murder. And I guarantee you that guy has some hate in his heart.
Don't listen to people dragging you down. Be well in Christ. Know that as you do your best to draw toward God, God will draw towards your own heart as well.
>>78236294
The bomber was a Muslim, the Patriarch is a Christian
>>78236133
M8, I gotta be honest here. As a Christian, and as someone who has dealt with mental illness, I highly encourage you to try and see a therapist or psychiatrist. What you're describing is called "Intrusive Thoughts " and it's something that we finally have the scientific know how to do something about. I'll pray for you, brother, and I honestly mean that.
>>78235863
>>78236685
Appreciate it guys.
Hey senpai
I just wanted to tell you guys about the best prayer I have ever prayed
I was reading about Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane. He knew he was going to suffer the next day and was stressed about it; it's the only time we ever see Christ in distress. He asks the disciples to stay awake and pas the night with Him. He didn't want to be alone, knowing what He was going to face the next day but in their human frailty and ignorance they failed Christ and fell asleep. He even asked "Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me". Our Savior must have been suffering so much at that moment; knowing and feeling divine apprehension about what He had to do; alone...imagine, Our Savior, our Beloved, alone in the hour of need.
It hit me hard senpai. And I prayed to God to reach out across time and reach Christ at that moment when He knew He was alone; when he assumed humanity's sins, and sweat blood. I asked God that my prayer may be made known across time (for time is no object to God) and that it may reach Christ when he was all alone, in that garden on a springtime night in 1st century Jerusalem, so that He might know that in some small way He's not alone, that I know what's facing Him, that I love Jesus and don't want Him to face all that totally alone. To just say in some way that I'm here, so far away, in space and time, wishing I could be with my Lord at that time.
It felt really good. That prayer was a turning point in my life actually.
>>78236814
Kek.
Gotta be honest, I'm drunk and on pills right now, and can't be fucked to Google things because I'm lazy.
>>78237024
I appreciate it, I did start going to a therapist a few months ago, I hope it works out, I want to be saved.
>>78235219
For whatever reason you have remember that sin is a measure of intent. A man who begs for forgiveness everyday but goes on to sin again every night will never be forgiven; but a sinner who wishes to change their ways and repents might find such kindness. The only exception is comitting an eternal sin: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_sin
>>78237251
I just showed you what you need to do, you can be saved tonight
I'm going to be attending a Sunday mass at an Russian orthodox church next Sunday, what should I expect? This will be the first time I've been to church since I was 6.
>>78234399
protestants don't exist, you can't protest Christianity and call yourself Christian.
>>78237573
No we protest Roman Catholics, not Christianity
>>78237058
Thank you for sharing that. I've wondered what I would say to Jesus in the garden of Gethsemane. Probably the only thing I would say would be "thank you". I've done so many terrible things, thought so many terrible things. Social convention was the only thing keeping me from moving those things from thought to action. I'm not worth what Jesus did for me.
Its really the post puzzling mystery of the faith, and one of the reasons why I tend to lean more toward the orthodox side of things (which for me, being protestant, Catholicism would be included when I say orthodox). My fellow Baptists think they know everything. They have an explanation for everything, even concepts that I believe are truly unfathomable. But the thing nobody has ever been able to explain is why God loves us, why Christ did what he did on Calvary's cross, why time and time again when we stray, the Spirit calls out to us. Truly the most blessed mystery of our faith.
>>78237690
roman catholics don't exist.
>>78238073
Tell the pope that
>>78237690
Explain this
>>78236589
I do think I will actually. That or the main Anglican branch in England. One of them told the gay marriage people to fuck off. I'll research more and make a better graphic at some point.
>>78237456
A lot of chanting, a lot of icons, a lot of incense, a lot of prayer, and a lot more standing than in other churches (especially if that parish doesn't have pews).
If there are icons on the way in, it is customary to kiss bow and make the sign of the cross and kiss the hand (I also kiss Christ's foot). During the service many people make the sign of the cross regularly. Orthros and Liturgy are generally back-to-back, so if you come early and find yourself walking into a service (generally with not many people), don't feel weird, it's intended you walk right in while a service is going, so it feels like you are walking into heaven.
In the antechamber, there will be candles, and you can buy and light one if you wish, and place it next to other candles with a prayer (this represents being a beacon of light in the world).
>>78238416
>That or the main Anglican branch in England
Of America, only the Episcopal Church is in communion with the CoE, but the CoE did indeed penalize the Episcopal Church for gay marriage
Prince Charles is getting very cozy with Orthodoxy and might make the CoE the English Orthodox Church.
>>78238233
What's your Question
>>78238050
Crucified Christ is THE mystery. Once my heart was struck and quickened when I prayed and meditated thinking about what the Cross meant. There's so much there. The Cross with Christ crucified upon it is at the center of universe. It's the most elegant divine action. It sends ripples back and forward through time. At times I think I understand parts of it (Christ is defined as the Most Loving; there is nothing more loving than to be tortured to death for the salvation of all) but we can only scratch the surface. Hold that feeling and vision of the unfathomable depth close to you and know that's what Christ's love for YOU is like, and yes it's for *you* specifically not just generically for all people
>>78236379
How am I lying to you?
>>78236766
It's okay to dislike someone
>>78236298
Pic related
>>78218740
Where does Methodism stand?
>>78238775
I enjoy the services, but I'm a Calvinist and the weslyian churches are arminian
Do catholics not understand that combating protestants as they do only makes it easier for Lucifer the evil one to control us? Shouldnt we be united in our love of Christ?
Why are some on both sides keen to keep the torch of the age old battle between catholics and protestants lit?
Anyone studying the bible at the moment? If so which book? I'm studying Exodus at the moment.
>>78204830
if i was going to follow some paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of grandeur, I'd be a bernie supporter.
fuck islam, and its flea market knockoff of judaism and christianity by a stupid inbred arab.
>>78239018
Lucifer isn't evil, people are evil.
>>78238557
I would very much support an English Orthodox Church. Greek and Antiochian feel foreign to me.
>>78239106
Getting Ready to dive into Proverbs
>>78238150
The pope is the leader of western Christianity.
>>78204830
>Islam
Some decent architecture in the old days and the Koran sound ok when recited skillfully
3/10 best I can do
>>78239018
That's one thing all Christian denoms have in common is "love of Christ". You will not find a Christian, anywhere, that doesn't.
Where the quibbling comes in is how much of the other thousand pages of the bible are to be interpreted and followed.
>>78239239
No he is not, Jesus is
>>78239239
There is only one Christianity, Protestantism isn't Christian.
>>78239352
No.
>>78239406
Are you saying the pope has supremacy over Christ
>>78239106
Samuel 1&2
>>78239148
Pretty sure he is evil.
He was a liar and murderer from the beginning. So it says from the Word
>>78239453
He has no idea what he's talking about, he isn't a Christian
>>78239571
He needs to Repent and put his trust in Christ
>>78239501
Lucifer is a double agent for God and his most trusted angel next to Michael
>>78239644
Amen
>>78239659
What
>>78239719
What kind of church do you go to
>>78239659
that's satan, dumbass. Lucifer is just a traitor.
>>78239453
Jesus is God, the ones Jesus gave authority on earth are the apostles, Peter built the Western Church and there.
>>78239659
Lucifer will burn, forever and ever and ever. O how he has fallen
>>78239317
Yes but thays exactly it. The squabbling does us all no good. Its to easy to cause dissension amongst brothers, a classic trick of the devil. As in with:
>>78239375
Pretty sure anybody that loves Christ and repents of his sin is a Christian. >>78239659
Yeah, no. Not if Revelations has anything to say about it
>>78239940
>Its to easy to cause dissension amongst brothers, a classic trick of the devil.
So heresy isn't to be called out because it might cause dissension amongst brothers?
Might I remind you what Jesus did in the temple to the money changers?
>>78240094
Anyone who puts their trust in Christ alone for their salvation shall be saved,
Eph 2:8-10
>>78239940
Nope, protestants aren't Christians.
