ITT we debunk the misinformation in this retarded picture.
>>78165833
>wise
*famous rich
>>78165833
>EU needs reform
>A reason to stay
HELP US AND OUR SINKING SHIP
>uncertainty
This is an argument for ignorance. That's horrifying.
>EU needs reform
That's the EU's problem, not the UK's.
>Norway
Nobody said you had to be like Norway. You can be like any country you want. The UK could be like the UK when it WAS the EU.
Half of these can be done without being a part of EU. Nothing stops the UK from accepting migrants, working on problems internationally, or devoting resources to fighting climate change, if that's what the people want it to do.
The point is that, as it stands, the people have no say. The EU is not a democratic body, and the power it wields should not be so absolute.
Globalist scum.
>>78165833
>Migrants contribute to the UK economy
dropped, didn't bother to read the rest
>Europe has been good for peace
>The Galactic Empire has been good for peace
>The Ottoman Empire has been good for peace
>Oceania has been good for peace
>>78165833
>without migrants the nhs wouldn't function
nobody is suggesting that there shouldn't be any migrants, migrants who are self-sufficient and have skills in high demand would still be allowed in
But there's no misinformation in this picture anon
66666 get
>>78166347
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-reform-uk-brexit-vote-live-remain-jean-claude-juncker-european-union-a7095601.html
>>78165833
>NATO has been good for European peace
ftfy
Also:
>Wise people
appeal to authority
>uncertainty
literally not an argument
>misleading statistics
Oh? So how much do you pay?
>bad trade deals
No proof, and a stupid assumption. Other countries need to keep their UK contacts for their business to suceed.
>The biggest problems are tackled internationally
Yes, you have more of a voice as an individual sovereign state than a part of the EU though.
>Climate change shit
We make our own rules after looking at our own environment thanks.
>peace
Tell that to the rioters after near-collapses of government in Europe after a crisis.
I'm not bothered to do the rest.
>>78165833
>Inclusive generally beats exclusive.
>no one knows what will happen
>wise people advise
Wtf am i even reading
Fuck globalism. Let people die.
>>78165833
>EU needs reform
You'll never get it
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-reform-uk-brexit-vote-live-remain-jean-claude-juncker-european-union-a7095601.html
> housing crisis caused by supply
sure, lets destroy all forests to welcome mass immigration
I thought lefties were green?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/apr/14/bank-of-england-warns-brexit-could-do-serious-harm-to-uk-economy
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/18/imf-says-brexit-would-trigger-uk-recession-eu-referendum
http://www.oecd.org/economy/oecd-study-finds-britons-will-be-paying-a-heavy-brexit-tax-for-many-years-if-uk-leaves-eu.htm
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/b23864e8-2ee3-11e6-bf8d-26294ad519fc.html#axzz4CFV3pe63
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/21/brexit-could-cost-100bn-and-nearly-1m-jobs-cbi-warns
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-21/-brexit-would-cause-significant-damage-oxford-economics-says
Debunk THIS leave NERDS.
>>78167037
A temporary price worth paying for the ability to run your own country.
All of the arguments for immigrants are irrelevant to whether or not Britain leaves. It's as if this person thinks that the borders will completely close if they decide to drop the EU. Also, the housing crisis point is contradictory and just... weird. They want more people to come to Britain but they'll have no homes? More people flowing in will just inflame a supply shortage problem, not make it magically go away.
A lot of these just aren't arguments. This person should be ashamed for "inclusive generally beats exclusive" and "uncertainty". Any self-respecting, rational-thinking human would laugh in his face for that shit.
>>78165833
>The biggest problems are best tackled internationally
The biggest problems are also caused because of the fact that it's international
>We need a strong Europe to fight climate change
European climate policy has two main strands. One is a carbon market to raise the price of pollution. The other—to give an extra push to investment, research and development in green energy—is a programme for boosting renewable energy through production targets and subsidies on, for instance, wind and solar power. Neither has worked since the kyoto implement in 2002
>Europe has been good for peace
By bankrupting several countries?
In fact europe seems to be the one of the biggest financial disasters that threatens the entire banking and monetary system for the world, in fact it's the most likely to cause war in the current year
>The eu protects workers rights
Yet the millions of unemployed in Spain, Greece and increasingly elsewhere have seen no benefit from alleged worker and trade union rights, in fact most of it seems to actually discredit even basic human rights
>lots of wise people advise us to remain
not an argument
cont.
fixed the image
>>78167037
>citing the guardian three times in the same post
no wonder you're a canadafag
>>78167254
>>Europe has been good for peace
surely they mean that MAD has been good for peace
>>78166012
They didn't get rich and famous jerking and shitposting on 4chan all day. M
>Without migrants, the NHS wouldn't function
is this satirical
>>78167374
>bank of england
>imf
>cbi
can you read?
at all?
>>78167374
"Canada was a mistake" - GB
>>78165833
>No one knows what will happen if we leave.
>All these things will happen if we leave.
Can these people even read the shit they're writing?
>Lots of wise people advise us to remain
>"wise people" aka people that have vested interests in the status quo are telling you not to break the status quo
NOT
AN
>EU protects workers rights
Nope, in fact the EU provides a fucked up system where foreign workers can work for lower pages than natives are legally allowed to.
>housing crisis not immigrants but lack of supply
uhh so if lower demand you really can't solve that can you
Im sure this is satire by now
>>78165833
(((wise)))
My favorite one is "The EU needs reform, we can't do it from the outside."
Firstly, if we're outside of it WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE CARE ABOUT REFORMING IT? Secondly, look at the fucking nature of the EU, does this look like something that's reformed? Unaccountable, secretly elected financial tinkering Jews with a dream of a European superstate, oh yeah sure they'll be very open to my suggestions.
Fucking retard who made this.
>>78167665
You sound scared white boi
>>78167665
kek
>>78167305
I think you forgot to remove one mate.
>wise people advise us to remain
Europe is doomed if it has been brainwashed this hard
>>78165833
>Housing is a supply side problem!
gee golly gee I would hope limiting demand would help a bit in that fucking case
I don't know about you but I'm convinced
>>78165833
I'm so angry at the prospect of not Leaving
If we Remain tomorrow I may just have to rampage an hero
>>78166605
>>78166605
No you don't understand, if you want to leave you're a bigot that hates immigrants and wants to drown them all in their boats from Calais.
You racist.
>it's not the fault of immigration that house prices have sky-rocketed and people can't afford to pay their rent any more, the Tories haven't built enough homes!
Immigration levels are now 300,000 people every year, which is more than the population of cities the size of Newcastle or Wolverhampton. Think about all the homes, hospitals, clinics, GP's surgeries, dentists, schools etc it takes to support that many people. It isn't physically possible to build an entire city's worth of infrastructure in one year. And imagine how fucking expensive it would be. It took over a decade and billions of £s just to build a stadium and some facilities for the Olympics.
>>78165833
There's not a single argument in this whole image. It's all flawed conjectures and fearmongering.
Whoever made this unwittingly admitted that the EU does NOTHING for the UK
>>78168132
And building those city's, destroys the little countryside we have left. Destroys our environment, our wildlife.
>>78165833
Going left to right, top to bottom.
>1
Nonsense. Let's try to tackle gay marriage internationally, see how much of the world agrees.
>2
And that's exactly why we need to stop the EU, which only pursues useless boondoggles like wind energy. We need nuclear energy, and we need to limit population numbers. The EU stands for neither.
>3
The Cold War has been good for peace. The US and the USSR reduced the power of European nations completely. Since the Cold War, it's been the EU that's overtly challenging Russia.
>4
Which is why they allow Eastern European workers to work in Western Europe for Eastern European wages. And it's also why they are flooding Europe with unskilled economical migrants. Sure.
>5
And if "wise people" tell you to jump into the river, do you do it? This is an appeal to authority.
>6
Yes, you do. You get half of that back through a deal, but take it from the EU's largest netto providers: You pay the EU tons of money.
>7
EU migrants as just mentioned. Who "contribute to the economy" because they cost €3 an hour. None of that money ends up in the native worker's pocket. Third World migrants have consistently been shown to only COST money.
>8
It bloody well could. But, just as for above, getting out of the EU does not mean the end of immigration. You can still attract skilled workers from abroad. This is not an argument.
>9
Just as they do with the US, Brazil, China, Taiwan, Japan...
>10
You mean those same poor who can't find decent jobs while the pro-EU side insists on flooding the job market with even more people in their skill level?
>11
Yes, and? Aren't you progressives all about forging ahead without a care in the world? This is an appeal to base fear.
>12
The UK is at present importing enough people every year that they require an entire new city to house them. How, exactly, do you plan to keep up with that demand? You've been consistently failing at it for DECADES, by this point.
>>78168084
Niggers die
>>78168764
Cont.
>13
Hahahaha, you think we have a vote! The EU is an undemocratic entity, and the last time I got something even so much as resembling a vote was years ago. It did fuck-all.
>14
See above. The system is set up to resist change and hangs together from nepotism, cronyism, and elitism. If the EU were capable of reform, they would already be talking about it. Instead they dig in their heals and talk about punishment, united EU armies, and federalization.
>15
This is an absolute nonsense argument, and AGAIN trying to appeal to base emotions. The EU is not inclusive, because if it were, it would take the concerns of the people into account. Instead it aims at making those concerns illegal.
And once again all the arguments in favour of the EU turn out to be childish appeals to emotion.
>>78168132
DAILY REMINDER THAT ACTUAL IMMIGRATION LEVELS ARE AT OVER 600,000
The net figures are pushed by SCAMERON because you can't say 'over half a million a year' using them. Sure the net figure is what we need to take into account with regards to housing, services, etc but people are worried about the numbers coming FULL STOP
1,000,000 JFs in -> 900,000 englishmen out = CallMeDave's target met
DON'T USE THE NET FIGURE LADS
>>78165833
from left to right:
1.most of the problems we have today didn't even exist before globalisation;
leaving eu doesn't mean uk is getting excluded from the world
2.so a huge meteor will fall down and europe will stop being strong if uk leaves;
climate change is combatted on global level and yet not all world is eu
3.europe is one of the main supporters and causers of all the wars in modern age which they started because of their interests without any regard for people
4.so does the uk, in reality uk is better in worker's rights than msot of europe
5.not an argument
6.yes you do, it's called membership fee
7.are you trying to imply taht they will stop contributing to the uk economy if uk leaves?;
or that uk won't be able to get new migrants then?
8.see 7.
9.so we should stay because we are afraid of others and on blackmail?
10. they always are whatever happens, does that mean we should never change in anything?
11. none knows what will happenn even if uk remains
12. see 7
13. now is the time to mention misleading statistics
14. why would uk care if they are not in it, is that begging uk to stay cause other memberes are useless?
15. this is a generalization trying to invoke people's feelings due to often mentioning of that word and means nothing
this pic is written by a 10yrold girl
from left to right
>only the self interest of your nation matters
>>global warming
>only because they are putting a stranglehold on everyone in an attempt to conquer without direct warfare
>these laws should not be handled by the eu, but by the nation
>just because supposedly "wise" people say something i should do exactly what they say?
>yet you pay almost 350£ per week
>this includes non-african migrants, which are very high value
>if you need aids niggers to keep your health service active i don't understand this
>this is literally saying that the eu will bully you as much as it can if you don't do as it demands
>not if you don't fuck it all up
>fuck off jew
>that lack of supply will dissipate once you get rid of africans
>save norway from their cruel oppressors, dismantle the eu
>the eu needs to be dismantled, you can do so from the outside
>jewish tricks
>>78165833
1. UN useless
2. China puts out more CO2 than the rest of the europe together, also growing economies rely on dirty industry more.
3. What is Bosnia?
4. Define wise?
5. 19billion is the membership fee, divide 19billion by 52weeks.
6. Mostly they may do but we cannot choose between an unskilled migrant and a highly skilled migrant.
7. Bollocks, we just have not chosen to train our own people up and if we did this we would not have to rely on migrants.
8. EU takes 10years or more and still screw it up.
9. Poor always take the hit, look at Greece.
10.Control borders, no membership fee, no EU rules and red tape, no unelected politians (i know lords), fishing grounds, worldwide trade, freedom, australian points system etc.
11. Increased immigration puts pressure on limited supply.
12. Norways choice desu.
13. Juncker just said that we cannot renegotiate after ref.
14. EU is crumbling.
>Biggest problems are best tackled internationally
Of course, because the world was completely struggling before the EU the came along, right?
>We need a strong europe to fight climate change
Europe =/= EU
>Euope good for peace
Europe =/= EU
>The EU protects workers rights
The EU didn't magically create the notion of workers rights
>Lots of wise people
That's not even worthy of a response wise = rich people who benefit
>Misleading statistics
Nope, the actual cost of membership £361m a week
>Migrants contribute to the UK economy
Good, it's not like migrants are suddenly going to be banned
>the NHS wouldn't function
Not even worthy of a response
>Trade deals will take ages and won't be good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcqBnVd6tOY
>Poorest will bear brunt
The poorest always get fucked regardless
>uncertainty
Not an argument
>Housing crisis
Less immigration = less people = more supply
>Be like Norway?
Obviously they don't pay the membership fee of £361 million a week
>Can't do it from outside
Can't do it from the inside either since the EU can pass laws without our say
>Inclusive generally beats exclusive
Not an argument
We're not fucking whores who only care about money. Jesus
Yeah international cooperation, not coercion by EU laws
See above. Also EU is missing reduction targets
NATO
Is that why wages are being driven down and entire industries disappearing?
Fuck the wise men with vested interests
£350 is what is sent. Some of it is sent back. Just like taxes, you don't quote the fucking tax - Value of service
Yeah okay mate. We can still take in workers after leaving EU
NHS is collapsing under huge strain; a lot of it due to uncontrolled migration
EU trade deals would be a pain but other deals would be easier due to losing EU bureaucracy
True about immediate hit if it happens. But far better future prospects outside
Uncertainty is better than definitely becoming a province of EU
We are not building houses at even close enough rate to house them
Do it like any other fucking non-EU country
Juncker has clearly said no more concessions for UK
Exactly, join the whole world; not a little Europe club
>>78165833
>biggest problems are best tackled internationally
This implies all globalism is good, its a stupid argument
>we need a stronger Europe to fight climate change
That's ridicolous, countries can have their own climate change policies, Europe is pro-green energy regardless of the EU system.
>EU has been good for peace
This implies the EU holds Europe from another war, its fear mongering. Also the EU has caused more unrest if anything, right wing parties would not be doing as well as they are now if not for the problems EU has caused
>EU protects workers rights
"We wouldn't have workers rights without the EU" fear-mongering bollocks
>wise people advice us to remain
Goes both ways, appeal to authority
>we dont pay 350 million a week
Ok, that's not even remotely the main argument for leaving.
>migrants contribute to the UK economy
Migrants fail a basic cost v benefit analysis test. Anyone not SJW understands this
>without migrants the NHS wouldnt function
"Our hospitals wouldnt work if these people we just brought just now arent around" lol
>trade deals will take ages
"trade deals cant exist well without the EU" What is reality. (more scare-mongering)
>poorest will bear brunt of economic hit
1) Poorest only suffer from mass migration
2) Democratic rights and sovereignty matters more then short-term economic gain.
3) It's arguable how much the EU hurts the UK, especially the mass regulation on business, not giving freedom to make own trade agreements with foreign nations, ect
>no one knows what will happen
Countries function.
>housing crisis
Is this bait or something? The housing crisis is mass migration.
>be like Norway
"Be cucked"
>EU needs reform
No EU as an organization itself should not exist, even the idea itself is poor.
>inclusive generally beats exclusive
The biggest lie in history it seems, this argument is only made by bluepilled teens who don't understand reality.
every reason is that image is a reason why LEAVE must happen.
>>78165833
>EU needs reform. Can't do it from outside
So America has absolutely no impact on you? Not even a teensie bit?
I'm impressed.
>EU protects workers rights
>Import millions of illegal immigrants then only months later pass laws allowing then to work below minimum wage
Toppest of keks
Wish I had some instagram-filters, tho
>>78165833
This image is shockingly rife with fallacies, it's honestly pretty horrifying how obvious this propaganda is, and it probably works on idiots too.
>>78168764
>>78169123
CAPPED
>>78165833
>biggest problems are best tackled internationally
Not if different nation states have different opinions on how to tackle and what to tackle.
>we need a strong europe to fight climate change
Climate change is not a fact - it is a theory and it yet remains to be seen if our gas emission have any effect on the climate. What we do need to enforce is environmental rules, such as regulations on acidity of waste water which does have a direct and very powerful effect on the environment. This issue can be treated by each nation state themselves, instead support scientific efforts that help create technology that decreases environmental profile. This is best done in individual states with cooperating scientific ventures, you do not need a gigantic bureaucratic state for this.
>europe has been good for peace
The definition of peace is a relative one, having masses of jihadi muslims enter Europe and threaten the populace is not what I call peace.
>the EU protects workers rights
The EU increases labour availability which automatically puts the labourer in a worse trade position. If a national citizen doesn't want to work under poor conditions and eastern-european will. There are no real checks done to see if any rules or regulations are passed, most of which seem only in place to sabotage small business.
>lots of wise people advise us to remain
Not an argument.
>we don't pay £350 million per week
You pay a significant contribution to the EU and what do you get back for it?
>migrants contribute to the uk economy
The UK economy as a whole is not an indicator for prosperity. Two hundred people who have a penny will form a bigger economy than one person with a pound, but who is more prosperous? The figure you are looking for is the per capita product, which has been steadily decreasing with millions of ethnic arabs and africans on welfare and child benefits. The conversation at hand is about illegal immigration and the flow of refugees, not legal immigrants.
>>78169245
>9. Poor always take the hit
Then you'll understand why they might want to avoid the hit.
>>78165833
>>78172203
>without migrants the NHS wouldn't function
Again, highly skilled migrants have absolutely nothing to do with illegal immigration and the mass migration from the arab region. This shouldn't even be compared because this isn't what the immigration debate is about.
>trade deals will take ages and terms won't be good
Due to the huge economic variety within the EU and the huge amounts of delegates trade deals become insanely complex - not one single person understands a single trade deal in full. The amount of bureaucracy in the EU makes trade deals become a game of politics and lobbying, rather than making quick deals in the interest of the nation itself. Trade deals made by the EU may benefit one nations while draining another nation, not a good situation.
>poorest will bear brunt of the immediate economic hit
Shortly after joining the EU Soros caused a massive economic downturn in Greece and has attempted to destabilize eastern-Europe. Not to mention the free movement of labour will drain poor countries of all talent, an argument that cannot be refuted and will hurt poor countries in the long run.
>uncertainty no one knows what will happen if we leave
If you do not leave the EU you are not in control if your own nation - you are at the whims of the EU elite whom are elected behind closed doors through nepotism. If you leave the EU you are directly in control of your own nation, your own trade deals and your own electorate. If anything staying in the EU is the uncertainty.
>housing crisis: lack of supply
The housing crisis is further increased by the massive immigration from within the EU. Getting out of the EU and closing the borders for the waves of refugees will help young people find housing that would otherwise go to non-british citizens.
>be like norway? they still pay, but have no vote
Why would you want to be so badly like another country - the UK is it's own country and it's people can decide what they want through democracy.
>>78165833
>without migrants the nhs wouldn't function
>>78165833
>>78173007
>EU needs reform, can't do it from outside
There is no motivation for the EU elite to reform, they hold utmost power and see no interest in giving up that power. Why try to reform something that we do not need in the first place? Here is a good way to reform the EU: have all nations leave and have each nation within Europe make trade deals and pacts among themselves like sovereign independent countries.
>inclusive generally beats exclusive
EU is the exclusive option, because you are exclusing your very own populace from democracy and you are throwing away the power of your national supreme court to power hungry lunatics.
>>78165833
>migrants are vital to the nhs functioning
Isn't the nhs basically slave labor at this point for Doctor though?
>>78165833
>EU has been good for peace
Tell that to Ukraine. NATO has existed for longer, and has been more instrumental, in maintaining a peaceful Europe than the EU.
>>78172788
If they stay in they take a hit because migrants who will work for less will take jobs and priority with school places, housing, health etc.
If they vote out then at least they have a chance.
>>78166600
The Galactic Empire was good for peace, aside from the Rebellion it was possibly the most peaceful the galaxy had ever been in millions of years
>>78165833
1. Possibly, but there are other forums
2. Climate change is largely the one good thing the EU does, yes
3. No it hasn't it stokes war with Russia, it fucked over Yugoslavia, it does war with the middle east, Libya, etc.
4. Yes it protects workers rights, another good thing the EU does.
5. No comment
6. You don't pay 350 million a week. The figure is closer to 100 million. Which isn't "paid". The process is completely different. This one is true.
7. Yes they do. Based on statistics alone, migrants give more to your economy than they take. Based on real life effect, they take your jobs and their contribution comes from salaries you could be earning.
8. It could, but it would be weakened. UK has good conditions for doctors so it attracts lots of foreigners - the NHS would have to somehow replace a LOT of them suddenly.
9. No and yes. Trade deals would be significantly quicker. But yes, terms would be bad - you would be desperate to negotiate good trade deals post-brexit and would have very little pull. It would take the most genius of negotiators to get any good terms out of that
10. No, it would first be financial institutions (hit is the wrong word, but anyway), then small and medium enterprises that would take the hit. The poor would be hit within 2-3 years.
11. No, we do know. We know where the uncertainty lies.
12. Idk
13. Norway has enough oil that paying money is probably good, because it rids them of paper that makes them have to reinforce vaults or something.
14. That is true. Whether you see it as necessary or not is another subject.
15. Too subjective, so false.
There you go, objective opinion from a pro-brexit EU worker.
>>78167037
>Economy is not an argument
bump because moving letters arount to make new words takes time
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10321952/swedish-footballer-defends-himself-after-being-sent-off-for-farting
>>78165833
how fallacious!
>here's why we should vote remain
>omg no one knows what will happen if remain
lol
>>78165833
I laugh because Britain is an Orwellian shithole on the road to becoming a Caliphate, whether it leaves the EU or not.
>>78165833
Well, for starters you could ask for proof of any of those claims, and outright dismiss nonsense like appeals to authority or "uncertainty".
>>78165833
There are no reasons
>The biggest problems are best tackled internationally
Debatable, depending on the problems. The UK can still have influence from outside the EU.
>We need a strong europe to fight climate change
Yep, Europe. Not EU. Also climate change is not our priority right now. Besides, the only significant thing the EU has done to combat this is the Paris treaty, wow...
>Europe has been good for peace
yea because of NAVO
>The EU protects workers' rights
Workers dont have rights in Switserland, Norway? I mean it probably helps to have stricter regulations (for the workers) but still. It's not a requirement.
>Lots of wise people advise us to remain
Argument of bandwagon, skip.
>We don't pay $350 million per week
Then show us the actual numbers, I don't know them.
>Migrants contribute to the UK economy.
So do natives. And muslim migrants don't do nearly enough compared to the damage they do.
Imma kskip the rest for now but you get the idea. The EU needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.
>>78165833
Literally all of that is trumped by sovereignty. If 100% of britons can rejected a regulation and still have it imposed on them because 20 mps wanted it, thats tyranny.
>>78165833
>migrants contribute to the UK economy
>without migrants the NHS wouldn't function
AHAHAHAHHahHAHAH.
Who fucking writes this stuff?
>>78168764
Bassed Netherlands says what we're all thinking
>>78165833
>Migrants contribute to the UK's economy
Poles do. Fucking refugees don't. Slit a Leftist's throat for me, Bong. They all deserve to die.
>>78165833
Here's some quality counter-propaganda I just made.
>>78188770
Based Hungarian
How is the fence holding out?
>>78165833
Stay strong Britain.
>>78188770
Based Hungary have a (you)
I'd change the first one to some bullshit about the UN though
>>78165833
>muh NHS
Why do liberal ponzi schemes like socialized healthcare always require massive third world immigration?
>>78191193
It doesn't. If there were sudden flood of niggers into Poland we wouldn't wait 3 months for specialist visit, but more. They only THINK it requires immigration because they're being fed bullshit that those immigrants are going to be doctors and shit.
>>78165833
Most of these are just baseless assertions. You don't even need to argue against them, you can simply state the opposing position.
>>78191635
>>78191193
They "need" immigration for doctors because doctors in the UK are basically slaves
>>78189849
It's shit like this that brings a tear to my eye and reminds me of the enormous respect I have for Europeans like this.
t. burger abroad
>>78175466
Of course the economy is an argument. What fucking planet are you from?
>>78166878
Leftie propaganda
>>78165833
being an island in the middle of the ocean, Britain surely has no way to survive outside the EU
so many shills.
the NWO will come whether any one wants it or not.....it is spoken of by prophets....
There is a paradigm shift coming.....
>>78192056
doctors in the uk are arrogant glorified pill dispensers and basically like triarge nurses preventing patients from getting any actual diagnoses or treatment.
it's a joke. most people don't realise this, they assume the grass is green until you actually need and go through the system them you realise what utter shit it is and who contemptable the people who work in it are. they're basically welfare queens like anyone with a goverment job.
I have two questions.
1. Is it true that Bosnia is run by an appointed official controlled by the EU/UN/NATO?
2.Why is the EU pushing Kosovo so hard, but complaining about other separatist movements like Nagorno-Karabakh, South Ossetia, and Transnistria?
>>78165833
This made me gag
>>78165833
>EU needs reform. Can't do it from outside.
Can't do it from inside either you fucking spastic
>migrants contribute to the economy
meanwhile EU countries have said repeatedly that they were going into debt to afford those people places to stay and give them free money
>>78165833
>europe has been good for peace
>home of the only 2 world wars
>>78165833
>left Propaganda
Some strong internal Propganda to reafirme the stay voters to go to vote.
But regarding undecided and leave fags, it just reafirms them the EU is shit.
>>78166474
YOU WICKED WICKED DEVIL!!!!!!!!
I love how one of the arguments is "EU needs reform, can't do it if we aren't in the EU". So why are you waiting until you have the "risk" of leaving to act on something rather than doing it say... many years ago?
>>78165833
>Housing is from lack of supply! Not immigration.
Well you fucker, if the demand wasn't overwhelming because of immigration, there wouldn't be a lack of supply.
>Famous people say its good!
Literally argument from authority
>We don't know what will happen, but here's all the bad things that will happen.
Argument both for and from ignorance.
>>78165833
Fuxxed for you.
>>78165833
>>78165833
>No one knows what will happen.
>The poor will suffer the immediate economic consequences.
Boy howdy, it's almost like the Remainers are trying to benefit from two incompatible arguments at once.
>>78165833
>inclusive beats exclusive
jej
>>78165833
the most peaceful country in europe is switzerland
they literally don't even join in any wars or anything
>>78165833
1) International collaboration and treaties are possible even without giving sovereignity over to Brussels and losing the ability to control immigration
2) see above
3) see above
4) workers' rights can be also protected through domestic union organising
5) a lot of them probably have a horse of their own in the race so to speak
6) source? Britain is still one of the main funders for the EU, they pay wayyy more than they get
7) some may contribute, from certain countries, but many more do not, especially from certain areas, and it's better to be able to control where and who gets to be an immigrant
8) when you have control you can choose to allow as many qualified, professional immigrants to come in for the needs of the NHS as you like, you don't need to allow half a million people per year to enter just to get the few qualified nurses
9) there's no telling how the trade deals will go, the UK is a big and interesting market
10) the poorest bear the brunt of the current shit situation anyway
11) whereas if they stay, everyone knows they'll be more fucked than now as there'll be more migrants and more countries to bail out á la Greece, I hope you got several extra billions of taxpayer money stashed somewhere
12) then both cut immigration and build more, but cutting immigration would definitely help wouldn't it
13) Norway is doing fucking excellently
14) why would you want to stay in a shit institution headed towards disaster you KNOW needs a reform, leave, create the option of leaving, other countries will follow suit, the general confusion will speed up the reform and the new union built upon the ruins will welcome big player UK in with open arms
15) what bullshit philosophical rhetoric is this, if you're going to be "inclusive" towards the billions of 3rd worlders it'll wreck the western standard of living as well as way of life
>housing crisis: lack of supply not immigration
nigger, supply and demand don't exist in a fucking vacuum
>Kafka inspired me to love bureaucracy, that's why I vote Remain
>>78165833
>lota of wise people tell us to remain
Be a good goy and do what us (((smart people))) tell you too. We know whats best for you.
>>78201031
Very well spoken. We can end the thread right here.
>>78201031
Nice
