was Jesus Christ a cuckservative?
Well, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, now does it?
>>78096505
Is Bulgaria Turkish?
Of course
Jesus Christ hung out with homeless people and whores while talking about being the better man and turning the other cheek and shit, he's about as far from the american right wing as you can get.
>>78096686
wtf
>>78096686
wtf I hate nauru now
>>78096505
I'm pretty sure he was the first Log Cabin Republican
nope. he was a hippy
oh yeah
>>78096505
He didn't have much regard for big government when it was run by men.
God should be our Government.
>>78097827
A Christian theocracy would be glorious.
>>78096686
> Nauru
lol I bet you're fat.
>christcucks unironically worship joseph's wife's son
cuckoldry: the religion
>>78096724
>not voting for legislation that forces money out of people's pockets means you hate poor people
i'm sick of this meme
>>78096505
More like the tumblr liberal of those days.
According to your scriptures, he was a commie.
>>78100428
no a volunteerism distributionist
>>78096505
Jesus Christ first Trump supporter confirmed.
>>78099843
I kek'd. For real though, God had to use a mortal woman to bear the child, or he would have been immortal. Adam WAS immortal until he partook of the Tree of Life, and invited corruption into his person, becoming mortal.
>>78099843
Excuse me, Tree of Knowledge. >>78100796
>>78100529
> volunteerism
> using threats of eternal punishment to those that don't follow his way
lol no
he was an anarcho-commie
>>78100916
Im talking about his economic ideas boyo
and you choose where you go
>>78100796
well said m8
>>78100983
the community Paul founded following his ideas was anarcho-commie
"God" even killed Ananias for not giving it all
>>78100796
> God had to
> AN ALL-POWERFUL BEING
> HAD TO
>>78101100
and? thats not isa's way (Pbuh)
>>78096505
no. he's a radical anarchist.
>>78099729
>Turn the other cheek to illegal migration and invasion
lolllllllllllllllllllll
>>78101264
no. he's catholic. bow down, heretic.
Jesus was just trying to teach us about the nature of physics of the universe. He told us that we were all (humans) gods. He basically told us that god decided to split himself up as what we call matter for a while to see what would happen. I have to think that his experiment, while interesting, was not what he expected. Kinda disappointing for an omnipotent being. Still humans are the peak of creation as far as I can see.
>>78101284
he meant "a quasi-islamic state where we pretend to be crusaders while ignoring the Gospel, the Epistles and the Apocalypse altogether"
>>78101416
not what you expected****
>>78096505
nah. He's God, tho.
He was a liberal SJW commie
>>78101690
The first jewish Trayvon Martin.
Leave it to christcucks to believe their God is a literal Jew. Embarrassing.
If Jesus was a literal Muslim you'd sing a different tune.
>>78101441
I think he meant a catholic theocracy where you slay the heretics, and you expand your realm by conquering the heathens.
>>78101519
I'm also part of god...as you are. It is just intuition... I said "I have to think that his experiment..." I have to think he would have been much more proud of the 60's as far as humans go.... but then again we are all part of "him"... interesting ride. I hope there really is an after-life just to see what the fuck this was all about.
>>78096505
Honestly?
Jesus didn't have a political alignment. He was clear about how how we should "Give Caesar what is Caesar's and God what is God's" and about how he is a king, but his reign is not in Earth. There is a clear separation between politics and spirituality.
I'd say that Jesus' teachings can work both in the right wing and in the left, but you should practice charity and help those in need no matter which side you are at. In other words, you can be a capitalist as far as it goes, just remember to help the poor.
>>78101796
He could be a 400 pound banana peeling nigger for all i care, He's still God
>>78101879
> theocracy
> "my kingdom is not of this world"
so yeah, larpers that actually don't believe in the City of God / Heaven bullshit
>>78101906
the sermon of the mount makes right-wing politics impossible
to be right-wing and christian you have to ignore whole chapters of the Gospel and declare that Jesus didn't mean to say any of that shit, plus you have to ignore the Apocalypse
>>78102049
>larpers
It really happened in the reality, never heard of the byzantine empire or "type a christian country before the XXth century"
>>78101906
>He was clear about how how we should "Give Caesar what is Caesar's and God what is God's" and about how he is a king, but his reign is not in Earth
His entire point there was that government is basically a bunch of bullshit. Don't even pay any attention to it. Just do what they require to keep it out of your way.. because they will kill you or lock you up otherwise. Avoid violence and concentrate on what life has to offer without those who would take you out before you can discover life.
>>78101888
>we are all god and i just hope something happens when i die
protip: we aren't all god, but we are invited to share in God's divinity, if we live our lives according to his will and law
>>78100916
>>78101100
>>78101161
>>78101441
>>78102049
>>78102166
i see you on so many christian threads
hwat gives?
>>78102236
"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God." (Romans 13:1)
"Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work," (Titus 3:1)
>>78102166
Can you explain why? Jesus is pretty much about helping the poor. The capitalist right wing is about earning your own coin through effort and merit. You don't need to be a commie to help the poor, you can be a capitalist and then share your earnings through charity.
>>78102199
never heard of Martin of Tours?
> a christian country
> "my kingdom is not of this world"
the fact that most medieval christians didn't give a fuck about what was written in the Gospel (and actually persecuted those that did, like they did to the cathars) does not change the fact that early christians actually believed in the sermon of the mount and the whole bullshit about heaven being a reward for the meek, for the poor in spirit and the helpless
>>78096505
No he was a liberal hippie
>>78102588
Just read the sermon of the mount and take it seriously like early christians did, like the Pope did, like Mother Teresa did, like cathars did
Suddenly you realize that mysery and suffering are what is expected out of christians, and a lot of things that make no sense in the Gospel start to become rational
>>78102588
Acts 5:29
God has precedence over Government, Governments have precedence over its subjects
>>78102588
>"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities.
That doesn't sound like something that Jesus said. Probably something that some fuckward priest wrote to undermine his authority on the human experience. You have to realize that he didn't sit down with a pen and write everything down. Much like our present time, there are lots of assholes who just want to control you for the profits.
>>78102911
So loving people is a liberal thing, tell them that
I never thought about anything religious for this past year. I am completely indifferent when it comes to god and religion. I don't give a fuck about an afterlife and a fucking god
>>78103123
You should, an eternity is a long time to be wrong
>>78103090
> That doesn't sound like something that Jesus said.
What is so hard to understand about "Do not resist evil. If they take your coat, give them your shirt as well"
Right-Wing Christianity consists of finding ways to interpret what Jesus and Paul said as the opposite of everything they said!
>>78103117
Defining love as a mindless automatic virtue that even your enemies deserve, instead of an actual mutual feeling born out of shared experience and common interests, is a liberal thing
The Christian definition of Love is demented and the origin of the liberal one
>>78102666
never heard of Martin of Tours?
Yes and i also heard of St Marinus of Caesarea, St Julius, St George, and St Olaf
>that early christians actually believed in the sermon of the mount and the whole bullshit about heaven being a reward for the meek, for the poor in spirit and the helpless
Early christians didn't have a State to manage this is because of that they were peaceful, and i don't see what oppose the sermon of the mount and the military.
>>78103183
well, the christian afterlife doesn't seem that appealing to me. does it have internet? if not then fuck heaven.
>>78102666
>early christians actually believed in the sermon of the mount and the whole bullshit about heaven being a reward for the meek, for the poor in spirit and the helpless
http://sacred-texts.com/chr/did/did03.htm
>>78102263
You may not realize it yet, but you (and all humans) are part of god. This is what Jesus said. You will move mountains in my name... etc. So sad to watch the greatest thing in the vast fucking universe be convinced that we are shit and that we need to submit to false self-proclaimed authority. We are GOD.
>>78103200
At a personal level, we should be loving, but there is also a sense of Justice that must be administered, if I'm a police man, I have an obligation to arrest wicked men
>>78103012
>>78102971
>>78103090
Yes, that and other passages say that you must obey God over the government, meaning you can disrespect the government if and only if it goes against God's word. Which is not the case with the right wing.
"For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat." - 2 Thessalonians 3:10
Communism is clearly not the way accordingly to the Bible. Instead, you must help the poor out of your own decision, free will plays a role here, you must choose to help, and not be forced by the government
"Open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy." Proverbs 31:9
"Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need." Ephesians 4:28
"The soul of the sluggard craves and gets nothing, while the soul of the diligent is richly supplied." Proverbs 13:4
"Then I said to them, “If it seems good to you, give me my wages; but if not, keep them.” And they weighed out as my wages thirty pieces of silver." Zechariah 11:12
>>78103312
Do you have a family?
>>78103323
then you are not read the sermon of the mount at all, or you are simply deciding that everything Jesus is saying is actually the opposite
>>78100796
>For real though:
goes on to write a bunch of bullshit than only means something to people inside his cult
>>78103200
His entire point there was that government is basically a bunch of bullshit. Don't even pay any attention to it. Just do what they require to keep it out of your way.. because they will kill you or lock you up otherwise. Avoid violence and concentrate on what life has to offer without those who would take you out before you can discover life.
>>78103350
Access to all knowledge is nice, there might be internet, definitely a library
>>78103402
a sense that is absent from both the Gospel and the Epistles, insofar Christians are not promised earthly justice, only divine retribution
>>78103497
I agree, plus Marxism by definition is anti Christian, so I am aloud to resist that
>>78103497
Found the passage that confirms what I said
"Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." - 2 Corinthians 9:7
Looks like I am not full of shit, the Bible's way is capitalism + charity
>>78103627
>a sense that is absent from both the Gospel and the Epistles, insofar Christians are not promised earthly justice, only divine retribution
For the one in authority is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4
>>78103574
> concentrate on what life
bizarre that you believe Jesus would provide such message, when rejection of everything the world has to offer is a very explicit position of Jesus
Otherwise you are mostly correct, what Jesus preaches is indifference to life, what Jesus wants of people is for them to become the Last Man, the most degenerate man, one which only hope is that death will come and bring him a better world
>>78103627
Yes we are, God still brings his wrath upon the wicked in the new covenant, example from the Bible, Ananias and saphirah, Herod Agrippa,
Historical example distruction of the Temple 70 AD
God hates Sin and punishes it in this life and the next
>>78103814
not disagreeing with you there, that was pretty much my point. Christians are not supposed to have agency
>>78103894
That is the lazy humans way out of this world. "everything is fucked", so I will not give a shit in this life and only look forward to the after life.
I don't think this idea will pan out for you. You will be stuck here for a long time if you don't figure it out. Love thy neighbor. You are a part of god.
>>78096505
He was the ultimate redpill, called out the Jews and everything. Came back as Hitler and did it again. Hopefully third time lucky.
>>78103894
jesus preached to love yourself and love others
when you learn what that means youll understand it has nothing to do with indifference you stupid kid faggot of shit poo
>>78096505
jesus was pro-second amendment, pro-capitalism and anti-fag. jesus hated the poor and loved the rich.
>>78104061
>Christians are not supposed to have agency
There is no passage in the Holy Bible who prohibit to become an agent of the State.
>>78104379
>pro-second amendment
Explain
>pro-capitalism
Not true, he didn't support any system other than charity no matter what system you are inserted at
>anti-fag
Not true, Jesus condemned the sin, not the sinner
>hated the poor and loved the rich
Which is why he always walked with the poor and always instructed the rich to sell their possessions?
>>78104523
He talked to soldiers all the time, pretty much he told them to be fair
The first Gentile was a Roman Centurion
>>78103986
the examples you are giving are supposed "God's wrath", not effective earthly judicial punishment
Christians are supposed to avoid earthly justice as much as possible insofar
> 25Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. 26Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
combined with "if they take your coat give them your shirt as well", "love your enemies" and "the meek will inherit my Kingdom" it becomes evident that assertive action is against the true advice of Jesus
>>78104573
>responding to an obvious troll
zika babby detected
>>78104523
that is not what agency means tho
>>78104912
Nothing to do with Justice but forgiveness, I can forgive a man if he stole from me, but he still must answer for his crime against society
>>78104573
>Jesus condemned the sin, not the sinner
you're thinking of gandhi
>>78104259
Jesus also said that insulting your brother is as bad as murder and that you would be thrown to the eternal fires for that
But then, I don't expect you to take anything Jesus said seriously. You are a christian after all
>>78105085
Jesus thinks that you should settle out of court as soon as possible, and give him everything else he asks for tho
>>78105116
Yes, all of sinned and fallen short of the glory, that's why Jesus came to save his sheep
>>78105113
"And when Jesus heard it, he said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.”" Mark 2:17
"But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8
Among many, many others
>>78105190
You don't understand the beatudes at all, as a nonbeliever you have no claim to what the Bible says
>>78105113
Jesus did give indications similar to that:
> “Whoever is without sin among you, let him be the first to cast a stone at her.”
> "Do not judge, or you will be judged."
Ultimately he was against slut shaming and sin shaming in general
he was an anarcho leftie
>>78105420
> Matthew 5:26
> part of the beautitudes
wat
Well, what claim can I have, if even christians don't actually give a fuck about what a jew hippie said?
I just wish they would stop shilling for the very same churches that embrace "refugee welcomes" and feed the ever growing african population while teaching that condomns are sinful
They are not only going to fuck Europe up, they are going to fuck the world
>>78105792
If you Repent and put your trust in Christ, I will do a Bible study with you
>>78096505
He was a proto-Marxist faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KHoVBK2EVE
>Christianity.exe has started running
>Miracle.exe asks for permission to run
>y/n
>"My kingdom is not of this world"
I guess pagans would have wanted to fight until the bitter end. These guys had lost their friends to each other. These guys had every right to exalt vengeance. Don't call it cuckoldry when you are the one looking at these things with yearning and incapable of having any of it.
>>78105936
By definition a Christian can't be a Marxist
>>78105877
I don't have reasons to repent, insofar I don't believe that there is an eternal fire pit awaiting those that don't worship the Jewish War God
Without the influence of that bit of jewish psychological terrorism, converting to Christianity makes no sense
>>78106035
It doesn't matter what you believe, only what is true.
>>78105539
>verses on hypocrisy
not really relevant.
>>78105297
you're right.
>>78096505
Monarchy is the only God approved government. It says in the OT "they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the Lord. And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee".
This was after Israel was without a king and ruled by the Judges, a state of lawlessness where every man did what he wanted and it was one of the most violent periods for Israel.
The Greeks had invented Democracy 500 years before. Yet Jesus never once advocated Democracy or an uprising against the government. He said "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's". St. Paul reaffirms this in Romans 13 when he says "the powers that be are ordained of God", and to "tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour." St. Peter also wrote "honor the king".
Jesus reaffirmed traditional marriage as between a man and a woman, condemned divorce outside of adultery, preached against Jews being greedy merchants in the temple. He often quoted the old testament prophets, who were often critical of the things the Israelites were doing.
Jesus wanted us to love Him and to be loving towards each other and to be less concerned with worldly, materialistic things. However He very much a traditionalist that grew angry when seeing the spirit of the law being killed in favor of vain traditions and false words of the Jews of His time. If you want to be a follower of Jesus the closest political system is Orthodox Monarchy, although we live in a fallen world and all governments are inferior to the Kingdom of Heaven.
>>78105950
The Greeks stop war campaigns in order to celebrate the Olympics
Sacred truces are not unique of Christianity
>>78106014
Why?
>>78105539
>Ultimately he was against slut shaming and sin shaming in general
lolno, he would want you to stop being a slut and destroy your sin lot cotinue in it. He wouldn't blame you as a person and view you as hopeless
>>78106217
Have you ever studied the teachings of Karl Marx? Do you know what a precondition of being a Marxist that would conflict with Christianity
>>78106217
>The Greeks stop war campaigns in order to celebrate the Olympics
This truce was started by the soldiers, though. The politicians wanted war. These guys played football with each other and refused to kill each other afterwards; ranks were shuffled to keep the ww1 going.
>>78106233
that does not contradict me
even if he would see you as hopeless, he still recommended against judging others, aka the very opposite of shaming
>>78106217
Karl Marx says that religion is society's opium and that it should be dropped
>>78106196
God never wanted the Jews to have a king and Saul was a disaster and failure. After the second king, David, nothing but failures followed.
>>78106385
No precondition insofar Jesus and Paul asked his followers not to question the governing authorities
if the local government is marxist then christians have to submit to such laws
>>78106562
A system of Government is kinda a hard topic for Christians, because Christians were a minority in those days
>>78106491
> Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people
it says nowhere that it should be dropped
>>78106653
No, we can resist a country that tries to force us to be atheist
>>78103363
>We are GOD.
No, you need to re-read the protip I graciously offered you, anon.
The only false self-proclaimed authority to which humans submit themselves is sin. That's what Jesus said. ((John 8:34))
>>78106562
Solomon was a failure? Constantine the Great, Justinian I?
>>78106833
Semantics. Those are things you usually want to drop. By being a Marxist you agree that religion is all that you mentioned, which is not really smart.
>>78106835
Surely. But banning religion isn't a requirement of Marxism (i.e. Liberation Theology)
>>78106653
Your view of the world is biaised by your anti-christian bias, the christians (catholics and orthodoxs)resisted to the communists and the catholic are still restisting in China
The Apostles Before the Council
24When the captain of the temple guard and the chief priests heard this account, they were perplexed as to what was happening. 25Then someone came in and announced, “Look, the men you put in jail are standing in the temple courts, teaching the people!”
26At that point, the captain went with the officers and brought the apostles—but not by force, for fear the people would stone them. 27They brought them in and made them stand before the Sanhedrin, where the high priest interrogated them. 28“We gave you strict orders not to teach in this name,” he said. “Yet you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and are determined to make us responsible for this man’s blood.”
29But Peter and the other apostles replied, “We must obey God rather than men. 30The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you had killed by hanging Him on a tree. 31God exalted Him to His right hand as Prince and Savior, in order to grant repentance and forgiveness of sins to Israel. 32We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey Him.”
>>78106562
This. There was actually one later not-total-failure, name starts with an H, but he was only for about a decade and was bookended by disasters.
>>78106459
yes you dont judge the person but their sin and tell them to quit it, not to let them continue sinning
>>78106987
Solomon built temples for Chemosh and Moloch, bringing the Canaanite religion to Israel.
>>78106994
Acts 5, God has precedence over Government, but we are supposed to be obedient to government when it doesn't conflict with Christ Romans 13
>>78107085
Tell that to Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, and all the Kim Juengs
>>78106920
No, that is what John erroneously said.
>>78106994
He said that nowhere
He is saying that religion is all that allows the oppressed to continue living in this world
If anything, it views religion in sympathetic eyes
to implement communism is to immanentize the eschaton
![Pope-kissing-feet[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ecAdVKY.jpg "Pope-kissing-feet[1].jpg")
>>78096505
Yes
>>78099843
That's Catholics you clown
>>78107290
Marxism-Leninism != All forms of Marxism
The Liberation Theology of third world leaders like Chavez and Mugabe is fully compatible with marxism
>>78107439
He actually is infecting them with AIDS
>>78107312
>the apostle John misquoted our Lord
May God have mercy on your soul, anon. Not even protetutes are that bad.
>>78107108
Paul made an exception when it came to spread the mind-virus of Christianity
Otherwise, he asked his followers to obey the law in quite explicit terms
>>78107552
There not Marxist though, if I really have a problem with a country I live in, then I'll leave
>>78107603
Don't worry my son, I will have mercy on your soul when the time comes. BTW, *prostitutes* were the kind of people that Jesus loved to hang out with. Look it up in the bible if that is your thing.
>>78107897
Chavez was not a Marxist?
>>78107979
Socialist, but so was Hittler
>>78107933
Convert or suffer the fires of Gehena, heretic.
>>78107591
damn, the old needle under the tongue trick
> This pope has been to some shady places
>>78108062
You didn't pay attention to Chavez
http://sputniknews.com/world/20100116/157569985.html
>>78108427
Atheism is a precondition of Marxism
Christian socialism is a possibility
If he claimed to be one, he was quite ignorant of Karl Marx
>>78108825
> Nothing is easier than to give Christian asceticism a Socialist tinge. Has not Christianity declaimed against private property, against marriage, against the State?
> Has it not preached in place of these, charity and poverty, celibacy and mortification of the flesh, monastic life and Mother Church?
> Christian Socialism is but the holy water with which the priest consecrates the heart-burnings of the aristocrat.
—Karl Marx
>>78108301
You images kind of have a gay thing going on... is that the image you are trying to portray? I don't think Jesus would have a problem with that, but you really don't get the meaning of existence yet. Give it time, you will eventually understand.
>>78109060
Well atleast in a Christian socialist society, everyone attends church, and no one would get high of their welfare
>>78099843
Thats because Mary lied and the lie got way out of hand it started a new religion.
Right Wing politics are concerned with the long-term survival of Civilization
Christianity is only concerned with personal salvation to become part of a nebulous afterlife for which no evidence exists, and for which this world needs to be sacrificed, which is best expressed in the way early christians like Martin of Tours refused to fight enemies of their nations, insofar killing in this world could cost them heaven
When Jesus says "if they take your coat, let them have your shirt as well", "do not resist evil", "I have come to turn a man against his own household", "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't follow me", "love your enemies, pray for your persecutors", "the meek will inherit the Earth", "those that wanna die will live", "blessed are those the persecuted, for they will be my Kingdom", "do not save treasures for tomorrow", "carry your cross so that you can receive eternal reward", "Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you'll have treasure in heaven", "it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter Heaven", "Woe to you who are well fed, Woe to you who laugh, for you will mourn and weep" he is not kidding, or meaning the opposite, but actually setting down a morality where the world is a lie and only the afterlife is the real deal, so destroying your life in this world, "carrying your cross" as he says, is completely logical
/pol/ "christians" seem to believe Jesus actually meant the OPPOSITE of all that, and that Jesus wants you to defend your family, that Jesus wants you to kill your enemies, to become prosperous, well-fed and rich in this world, and to avoid persecution and death!
Only a person that does not actually believe in the Heaven bullshit and in eternal rewards for dying a martyr would actually re-interpret Christianity as a cult of earthly power which declares "the strong shall inherit the Earth" and "you must destroy the enemies of your nation"
>>78096686
Nice flag, 7/10. Color scheme could be better and the star should be inverted
>>78100916
Jesus believed in free will. You have no idea what Christianity is about
