What do you think of tobacco, is it a degenerate substance intended for the lower class masses?
it used to be the source of money
now it's a worthless degenerate substance
>>78043990
nightmare to quit, once you do though you realize how shitty it was
Disgusting and expensive as heck.
Smokers always smell like shit, and it sticks to the walls aswell.
>B-But it dosen't hurt anybody, muh body
It makes me and everyone else uncomfortable, just no.
>>78043990
It's a nightmare substance that impoverished and killed my grandparents, but everyone should be free to smoke in their own hovel or anywhere outside.
>>78043990
It's a nasty, pointless habit that makes a lot of money for the tobacco and medical industry alike. I'm trying to ween down right now myself.
it's alright
I've been smoking 5-10 cigarettes a day for a few years now. I'd probably quit if I lived anywhere else (in virginia currently) because I can't imagine paying $8 for a pack
>>78043990
Inhaling any kind of smoke is really stupid.
>>78044221
>makes me and everyone else uncomfortable
faggot
>>78043990
If enjoyed responsibly and using high quality tobacco as a treat and a pleasure, not habitual, then it can be lovely.
Stay away from cigarettes and buy pipe tobacco from small blenders.
>>78044221
Former smoker. I actually don't mind when people smoke sround me. You are just a giant pussy.
>>78044221
>thinking I give a fuck
kek, fuck you and everyone else. Fucking queer.
Also, friendly reminder that the likes want you to stop smoking so they can harvest your organs.
>>78043990
NASA sent us to the moon huffing cigarettes
>>78043990
If you really want nicotine just use vape instead. Sure a bunch of hippie degenerates vape but who gives a shit. It's literally safer and less obnoxious in every way.
>>78044191
>nightmare to quit
No, it isn't. It's real simple and easy to not do something.
>>78044383
>I've been smoking 5-10 cigarettes a day for a few years now
Why?
>>78044544
>i suck on cylinders all day to satisfy my oral fixation
>but it's other people who is queers
>>78044723
>No, it isn't. It's real simple and easy to not do something.
Like shitposting on pol?
>>78043990
I want to quit, but I enjoy smoking so its hard.
>>78043990
It's fine. The only people that get addicted are people that are already week willed.
The kind of people that get addicted to it should be dead already; why not let them kill themselves?
>>78044723
Oh look a high horse contrarian faggot.
It is a fucking bitch and a half to quit, my man.
>>78044938
>I've never let myself be hedonostic in my late teens, early twenties.
Addiction is a part of growing up sonny.
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>>78043990
I love tabacco
I love the smell of it before you smoke it
I love the smell as you smoke it
I love the taste
I love the feeling
but unfortunately after a few weekends in a row smoking a couple a day I found my lungs struggling a little so I'm taking some time off before I smoke again.
>>78044932
Buy a vape
>>78044536
>Former smoker. I actually don't mind when people smoke sround me. You are just a giant pussy.
Because you're are used to it.
>>78044544
>Thinking I give a fuck
Sounds like you do.
I wouldn't cough in your face or do other nasty stuff like that, why should I think it's okay for you be to breath in cancer in my face?
>ITT: Anime autists who never started smoking because they were never part of the cool kids
Haha, enjoy watching your animes you friendless losers. Meanwhile I will be smoking my cigarettes while socializing and getting laid.
>>78045111
I like smoking. Not imitations of smoking.
>>78044601
555comeonnow.jpg
How about you quit smoking so i dont have to pay your medical bills cunt muffin.
I only smoke unfiltered tobacco
filters are for good goys
We are taxing it big time so it is going to be a status symbol for the upper class soon. The lower class will still get their fix from the black market though.
>>78045145
Used to it?
I haven't smoked in 6 months, cunt. How would I be "used to it" at this point?
>>78044723
>Why?
because it gives me mild enjoyment?
I like to smoke when I drink on the weekends and sometimes while driving
Like anything, it's degenerate when in excess
>drinking isn't degenerate, unless you're an alcoholic/binge drinker
>smoking isn't either, unless you need one every hour, even everyday
>pot is the same to a lesser extent, hitting a bong at a party is passible, but being a stoner is terrible
>>78045257
IMO just use pipes then, and find plain tobacco, classy as fuck and it's way better for you with all of the additives out. Sure, it's still harmful but who gives a shit.
>>78045174
Have fun with cancer you nigger. Good to know that your kind will die first.
>>78045466
Becuase you have literally been breathing in death, if you are someone who hasn't done that and is actively avoiding cancer it's a different story.
Smoking is good for your marrow in small doses. Grow your own though, this shit is needlessly expensive at the store.
If you smoke more than 3 a day then you are reducing your lung capacity for a slight clear-headedness.
>>78045466
takes a year for the cravings to fully go away mang, good job though
>>78045174
>smoking my cigarettes while socializing and getting laid.
>smoking while getting laid.
That's the spirit!
>>78045576
Smoking is a health hazard no matter how much you use it you fucking retard
>>78044932
>I enjoy smoking
What is there to enjoy about jt?
>>78044943
No, it isn't, you jusy don't do it. It takes effort to do an action, it doesn't take any effort to not do something.
>>78045092
How can you like that terrible smell? What's wrong with you?
>>78045174
Oh, yeah, you're so cool, you chuuni shit.
smoking harms are overstated, japan and greece light up and live long. with that said I endorse what this guy >78044652
said unless you like being a good taxpayer with packages.
>>78044652
the issue with vaping is everyone thinks it's super safe so they indulge like crazy and then wonder why they have lung problems after 10 years of daily use
>>78045740
>What is there to enjoy about jt?
Beats me.
>>78044943
have you tried having willpower?
The anti smoking circlejerk and media campaign is really really annoying and makes me want to pick it up again
>>78044652
>less obnoxious in every way.
Vapers are living memes
>>78045740
Its not something that is easy to explain. But I will try, I suppose after I finish eating a big meal and feel full a cigarette will give that little "ahh.." feeling.
Like drinking after eating dry food.
>>78044409
What about hickory smoke? God's sweet gift to pork
>>78044534
You thought your quality post was going to go unnoticed didn't you.
>>78043990
Snus is better + less dangerous in certain degrees, atleast you don't inhale smoke to your lungs that doesn't belong there
>inb4 i'm not swedish, i'm finnish
>>78043990
I used to smoke cigarettes to the point where I had some light breathing problems, now I only smoke cigars and pipes and I rarely inhale.
Anyone who thinks it "smells bad" can go fuck themselves, if you have never smoked a good nicaraguan cigar you are basically missing out on one of the best things on earth
If you go around trying to put down smokers you are virtue signalling harder than the worst lefty, mind your own business bitch.
Smoking increases testosterone.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24457405
(drinking lowers it btw especially over hoppy beers)
>>78043990
yes
>>78045646
Thanks brah. Dont think ill ever go back desu.
>>78045740
Yeah actually it is hard to quit. Hemce why there are products designed for quitting everywhere.
>>78046014
Yeah, worked well. Have you tried to quit shitposting?
>>78045567
"Breathing in death"
Just gas yourself fampai. You sound like a soccer mom.
>>78045740
>terrible smell
I bet you also hate the taste of gin and corned beef
what a fag
though I used to be like you before I grew a dick a brain and a heart.
>>78046393
Odens is fucking horrible though.
>>78045567
Guess those nice pink lungs didn't do the fucker any good, did they?
>>78046632
Smells like a shitskin, but 22mg nicotine
Anyone else a "social" smoker here?
I don't know what else i'd mix into my spliffs. Bretty gud substance tbqh desu
>>78043990
Tool for thinning the herd of the not so bright.
>>78046824
>a "social" smoker
Now this is indeed rather degenerate.
>>78046455
Ideal flavour profile, go.
Be aware that any answer other than creamy dark chocolate with a hint of nuttiness is objectively incorrect.
I enjoy good pipe tobacco on occasion, or a good cigar here and there (no not a fucking Phillies).
Cigs are a badge of poverty and lack of willpower. Just being around it is enough to make me sick.
Have friends that hate hanging out anywhere but home because they have to step outside every half hour.
>>78046824
That's even more pathetic, stop submitting to peer pressure.
>>78046939
Don't bully
>>78046824
Thats how it all starts, anon
Nip it in the bud
>>78046866
>putting anything else in spliffs
why?
>>78044079
Were you in prison?
So how are things in the US since the FDA has started regulating cigars?
>>78047370
A spliff is tobacco + weed.
A joint is weed.
>>78047198
>Don't bully
Why don't you go smoke strawberry shisha with your roach friends, k?
>>78044723
You don't know what you're talking about, but you're probably just a shitposting faggot with no experience in anything he speaks on to begin with so it doesn't matter.
>>78047089
>creamy dark chocolate with a hint of nuttiness
Sounds like most of the burleys I smoke, although with cigars I don't really think of the flavors as foods, and I usually go for strong "tobacco blends not aromatics. Once inawhile I could go for a vanilla or coconut though.
Vaping is the future
>>78047545
So, what am I wrong abput?
>>78047759
Vaping is a meme
We can all agree that hookah is very degenerate though, right?
Nothing else gets kids addicted to nicotine quite like it, and fast.
>>78047814
It's really not easy to quit cigarettes, anyone who says differently doesn't understand the nature of addiction.
>>78047814
Quitting.
And most of your assertions are pure b8, like 85% of this thread
It should be banned in lebanon, too many people smoke here, breathing in the air here is like breathing in tobacco with gasoline mixed, anyways smoking is gross and i would never date anyone if they smoke, dating them and kissing them is like kissing an ash tray
>>78048232
>>78048240
Stopping smoking cigarettes is easy. You just don't do it anymore. You don't buy packs, you don't smoke the ones you have left, you just stop. It's not hard.
>>78047089
>creamy dark chocolate
that sounds like burley or black cavendish—both of which are pleb-tier disgusting.
pic related is among my favorites, but hard to get now since, lol, syria.
virginia, oriental, perique and latakia are the only acceptable types, imho. english blends or fuck off. aromatic blends and literally kill yourself.
>>78048797
Have you ever smoked or tried to quit smoking? If you don't know what that's like you should really shut the fuck up.
>>78045476
>because it gives me mild enjoyment?
lol no
To an addict getting the dose is not giving them enjoment.
It just takes you to a comfortable level like every other person without addiction.
You could compare it to hunger. You feel shit when you are starving, then eating makes you feel good. Your body feels the need for it.
Only tobaco is a mild drug and you won't die if you quit just feel shit for a long time before your body gets used to the lack of it.
>>78043990
As long as you don't inhale the smoke it shouldn't be considered degenerate.
>>78043990
>Tobacco is one of the very few multi billion dollar industry not owned by jews.
>smoking was very widespread and associated with 1950s way of life (which is what this board loves)
>the studies that link tobacco smoking to higher cancer risk are misleading, they are performed on smokers as a whole, thereby equating a 1 cigarette a day smoker to a 2 packs a day one
>the risk of developing cancer before you're 90 from a <5 cigarettes a day habit are abysmal,
>the neurodegenerative-disease preventive side of nicotine is never documented.
>>78048817
Burleys can be very good, but everyone has their own tastes. Personally I smoke tobaccos from pretty much every category but it took me a long time to find blends that I like
>>78050004
yeah, i guess i came off a little harsh on burley, which is perfectly fine with virginia. it's really black cavendish that i have a bone to pick with.
do you have a C&D blend to recommend besides your pic? i usually smoke mcclelland exclusively.
also, i forgot my pic last time.
>>78043990
cigarettes are the cancer that designed tobacco in a way to sneak into daily life and make people dependent.
tobacco itself is alright. it's just some indian voodoo
>>78049060
>Have you ever smoked or tried to quit smoking?
No, but I know that it takes effort to do things and to not do things you just have to not do it. Let's compare quitting smoking to me getting into better shape. For me to get into better shape I'd have to actually do something, I'd have go and work out but for someone to stop smoking they'd have to just not do it.
>>78050290
native*
>>78048106
Same as with cigarettes. Nondegenerate on its own, degenerate as soon as it becomes a habit. Every two or three months I visit a friend of mine, we play some ksp, use his hookah, have one or two drinks and solder some electronics. Pretty good times.
>>78043990
It's the most wonderful thing ever when done in moderation after a fine meal. Pissing off SJWs who think getting ass fucked by strangers in a gay bath house is healthy only makes it more magical.
I like butter too but I don't drink gallons of it, poor people do though
>>78050373
quitting feels a bit like letting insects crawl over you and not remove them. The vegetative system of addicts is screwed.
>>78050230
C & D Haunted Bookshop is another strong and very raw burley the only difference is it doesn't have the perique that old joe has. Solani Aged Burley Flake is pretty great too.
Pic related is an Incredible black cavendish, all solani blends are good imo, even if you think you don't like aros or the particular blend type the Solani version is typically not at all what you expect.
>>78043990
Used to smoke cigs but then I started actually looking at the 50 year old chainsmokers buying cartons of Camels at 7/11 so I eventually weened myself off (22 now, quit when I was 21)
Yeah I was only smoking like 5 cigs a day but most chainsmokers don't start off at 2 packs a day. It's a disgusting, expensive habit and embarrassing as fuck.
>>78043990
Ciggies are pretty redpilled
>>78047089
Sounds like you smoke Anejos if you smoke cigars, but you're talking pipe tobacco. The best flavor profile is stark dark chocolate and nut on the first two thirds and a brandied taste on the third for cigars.
>>78046455
Cigars are amazing if you got good quality non nigger cigars. I prefer Dominican cigars though.
Anyone defending smoking needs to be shot.
t. ex smoker.
>>78050997
>>78050230
In Qatar we smoke something called Dokha, it's a very strong arid pipe tobacco which induces an incredible head rush (think the first time you tried a cigarette) and tastes/smells pretty nice.
I suggest you try it.
>>78050898
>quitting feels a bit like letting insects crawl over you and not remove them
Sounds like mild paranoia. Not a bad state to be in.
>>78051343
>good quality
>cigar
That's a funny joke, tell another.
>>78051359
you're on the side of the SJWs. smokers need a safe space or they'll exhale all over. you can't get rid of the ashtrays and complain about discards every which spot
>>78043990
Ah the ol' nicotine jew
Absolutely degenerate.
>>78043990
No more degenerate than alcohol in my opinion. It's all a reflection on the user.
>>78043990
WHAT ABOUT VAPING???
>>78051575
Oh fuck off you retarded junkie.
>>78051575
>>78051575
>smokers need a safe space or they'll exhale all over
Not if impolite behavior was not tolerated.
>you can't get rid of the ashtrays and complain about discards every which spot
Why not? People should know better than leaving their shit all over the place. They should have some decency.
>>78051590
Join my vape clan TheDarkMemers you'll see the light famalam
>>78051801
second hand smoke is not substantiated, it's just smoker-shaming.
>>78051507
I will try to get some, it reminds me of the very finely ground pipe tobacoo the japanese used to smoke.
>>78051686
smoking the electric jew [spoiler]vape nation[/spoiler]
>>78051572
nice shitpost, friend :^)
>>78051686
Vaping is an efficent way to stop smoking progressivly. My father Vapes.
>>78043990
Probably.
>tfw snus two tins a day
the substance itself is never at issue. be it crack, marijuana, tobacco, or lsd.
what's at stake when consuming freedom is, well, your ability to keep your democracy well educated.
so, do you science, philosophy, medicine, politik, and educate your fellow citizens when you're being a consumer, or are you a degenerate ?
>>78051932
>second hand smoke is not substantiated
So, a child forced to live with parents who smoke around him won't havr any negative effects?
Fuck off.
>>78052031
>if I call it a shitpost then he's wrong
Okay, champ.
>>78044534
i hate smoke, but when someones is burning some quality pipe tobacco it smells like a fucking chocolate factory.
>>78044221
>>78052507
I feel kind of bad but my nieces and nephew flock to me when I smoke, they love the stuff lol
>>78052507
no worse than being an awful cook that scorches everything or letting the engine run in a closed garage. second hand smoke is more social and political cudgel than a medical fact. the bans have not reduced rates it's a bluff.
>Expensive
>Addictive
>Unhealthy
>Makes your clothes stink of smoke
>Makes you look like a bit of a tool
>The indignity of standing outside in the rain trying to light one up
I don't understand the appeal in it whatsoever, but I don't think it should be banned. Smokers have the right to smoke as much as I have the right to eat greasy food or drink booze, in my opinion.
Feels pretty good to smoke when I'm drunk as hell, I'd never want to make a regular habit of smoking them though.
>>78053284
Made me remember this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_anSfhSio54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kluAgSC0g0
>>78052875
>I feel kind of bad but my nieces and nephew flock to me when I smoke
And you let them? You are a horrible person. What is wrong with you? How does your sibling let you do that around them?
second hand smoke is annoying.
smokers, take note of the wind direction. maneuver yourself such that the smoke will not fly by people
smokers, if children are approaching as your smoking a cigarette downtown, hide that shit in your hand so the kids dont see older people smoking.
always do what you can to negate the effects of smoke. rinse mouth out w/ water or brush teeth. wash hands. consume extra vitamins that smoke depletes. and dont fucking smoke indoors, it smells about like cat piss. they're both bad for u.
>>78053725
Everyone in my family smokes some combination of cigars cigarettes and weed, it's in our genes. You realize you sound like a complete dick right?
Best drug of the universe, those who disagree don't understand drugs
>>78053896
stop being a bitch, move out of the way faggit, the only reason you have a voice is because of the second-hand-cancer meme
>>78045092
this
>>78045740
Pussy detected
>>78045740
>How can you like that terrible smell? What's wrong with you?
smokers can't smell it, it fucks with your nose
you can only taste it, and it tastes great.
Thats the secret nobody tells you
Having stopped smoking for some time, i now know why you people hate the smell, it truly smells awful, nothing like the taste
>>78054156
And none of you think it's bad to smoke around kids? Fuck, if you want to hurt yourselves like that that's one thing but you shouldn't abuse children like that.
>You realize you sound like a complete dick right?
At least I'm not a child abuser.
>>78054379
Great insult, mate. You don't need to engage at all, just throw an insult.
>>78054503
>it tastes great
I don't think that likely, based on how it smells and I don't think I'm ever going to try iy to find out.
>>78045740
>What is there to enjoy about jt?
What the fuck kind of question is this? Do you like drinking coffee or tea or cola? Ever smoke pot? Ever do a line of coke? Ever take an aspirin?
>>78046393
That's where it's at. Literally the best form of tobacco that has ever been invented. You can do it wherever and people don't really notice, it's healthier, and where I live it's cheaper.
>>78054724
No we feel bad about it but it's not that big of a deal, when one of my sisters kids were babies she used to smoke blunts in the car with them because it would keep them quiet, she stopped that I guess. Just because they get a tiny inhalation of tobacco once or twice a week is negligable compared to whatever else is in the air and food probably.
>>78053284
Smoking in the rain is the best though
>>78043990
A degenerate substance created by the Jews to keep the masses in check. Hook them on it then drain their bank accounts.
>>78051507
I knew a kid from Irag that'd smoke Dokha 24/7. We called him Fazel Dokha Boy.
What's better? The cool shit or the warm shit?
>>78043990
From what I understand smoking is pretty harmful, I wouldn't recommend it to somebody if that's what you're asking
>>78055176
>it's not that big of a deal,
Yes, it is. It's a very big deal.
>she used to smoke blunts in the car with them because it would keep them quiet
I hope this is just lies. I hope no one would actually do this.
>once or twice a week
So, none of you smoke more than once or twice a week?
>>78054724
>Just throw an insult
Dude this site is 18+
>>78043990
I started smoking 1-2 cigarettes daily with friends during my edgy highschool phase. Picked it up as a regular habit while in the army and grew to a pack a day while I was deployed. Now I'm back to half a pack a day and can still easily run a mile in under 7 minutes. just don't be a massive faggot and it's fine
As much as people hate on vape culture, it's probably better to vape the nicotine.
Nicotine does have medicinal benefits (especially for Schizophrenics). It's the burnt organic matter that fucks your shit up.
>>78055416
it's the nanny-statists that break the wallets with their taxes. vice taxes can be regressive.
>>78055630
There's 7 billion people on the planet we don't have to raise our kids very carefully, might as well break them and see who comes out strongest.
>>78056051
being a light smoker (<5 pd) in a rural area is like being a non-smoker in a crowded city like new york, Beijing for example would be equivalent to being a very heavy smoker.
>>78047370
pretty common in UK and mainland Europe, pure joints don't burn properly
quit 3 years ago and realized I'm surrounded by weak willed self hating morons. Now I hit the green once in a while and it sets me straight, I love my new energy and lack of stink
degenerate. Anyone who picks it up these days knowing exactly what it does to you is a moron.
>>78056320
>we don't have to raise our kids very carefully, might as well break them and see who comes out strongest
What the fuck are you saying? It's okay for you to abuse your children because...? What?
>high school crush smoked
I always get sad when I smell cigarette smoke because it reminds me of her. She always smelled of faint smoke and some sort of cute flower.
I hope she quit.
>>78056535
Because Darwinism you twat
I like it.
>>78043990
>is it a degenerate substance intended for the lower class masses?
You bet my nigga
When you ask someone why they smoke, it's impossible not to hear a degenerate response. Like i'm stressful,nervous,etc...
The degenerate mind cannot seem to realize that mind problems are only to be solved with the same mind that created them. Everything comes from the mind
>>78056751
But wouldn't that mean you'd want to raise your children to be as good as they can be so your line will be strong? You're not making any sense.
>>78043990
Source of nicotinic acid while using pipe.
>>78057045
Besides being in a complete family and above the poverty line no one really knows how to make kids grow into very good adults, it's much easier to break them and weed out the weaklings.
Quitting smoking is pretty much a test of willpower and perserverance to a smoker.
If the person does not have it in him to quit smoking then he'll never get off the ride. It's a shit experience to go through, but it's better in the long run as you'll feel a lot more better in the long run.
>>78043990
Swedeshits and other Scandinavians will know what this is. This is the safest way to consume tobacco, and each portion provides the same amount of nicotine as a standard cigarette so you can just replace those completely.
>>78057710
Enjoy having your jaw fall off
it's a good substitute for low DUDE
You stop caring about the ill effects of smoking when you stop caring wether you live or die
>>78058082
faggot
>>78058082
A portion of Swedish snus contains the same amount of carcinogens as a single cup of coffee. You will not get oral cancer from snus that is pasteurized and not fermented or fire roasted like American dip. Swedish match has a ten thousand page study confirming this among other health concerns. Tobacco use in the Scandinavian countries has not decreased at all compared to other European countries, however cancer rates have significantly dropped. Why is this? Because snus is so fucking popular over there, and they use snus instead of smoking.
Smoking is a vice which is and has been in excessive cross fire.
Being a former moderate and now light smoker myself, 5 or less cigarettes a day, I firmly believe it is not a big deal.
The notion that it is a death sentence is absolutely blown out of proportion and only applies to heavy, long term smokers.
At the end of the day everything can be degenerate when done in excess, having a cigarette once in a while is fantastic especially when accompanied by a cup of coffee or a drink.
Have some self distance and have a smoke, that is unless you are hell bent on staying away from it which is fine, but don't be such a whiny goody two shoes.
>>78058416
Aryan friend got the point.
>>78058416
I thought Muslims don't smoke?
>>78058898
Good meme.
Hope I'm dead before the Happening happens
>>78043990
Daily reminder that cancer is caused b atomic bomb radiation and not cigarettes.
(((They))) don't want you to smoke. Good goy, put down that cigarette.
>>78058416
Kind of like an opposite to "when a wizard has grown tired of checking his breakfast for glass he's grown tired of life"?
>>78059751
>that's right, smoking doesn't have negative effects on your health
Fuck off, shill.
They are super nice, but they're soooo fucking bad for you. Only worth it at parties every once in a while.
If you really like tobacco dip and/ or cigars are so much better. Lungs are super fragile and the damage done to them by cigs is progressive and can't be reversed
>>78044409
um.. you forget crack?
>>78061462
luxembourg wht
>>78061462
Why are people so against crack? It's literally just cocaine that you can smoke. I never heard of anyone who said anything bad about cocaine, it's a high class drug.
>>78043990
I buy packs, but I smoke cigs socially. I have to say, it really relaxes me and makes me open to banter. Normally I hate people but tobacco/alcohol help me be normal and social.
>>78046631
>gin
Least favorite drink by far, even with the quality stuff. I'm a booze fiend so I'll drink it without bitching, but whiskey (that isn't bottom barrel trash regardless of the type) will always be the white man's drink
>corned beef
Literally Jew meat, but I can't resist giving the kikes some shekels if they make a good Reuben. GOAT beef if it's properly prepared.
>>78043990
>1 post
