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Does anyone else miss the Dubya years?
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By this point, the 2000s seem like a 1990s lite even with 9/11, Iraq and Katrina. That's how bad it's gotten nowadays.
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nope
I might miss the years, but I sure as hell don't miss the man
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I think a lot changed after the crash in 08. Maybe more noticable for me since I was out of the country. So yes, I do miss those years but I have no clue what caused things to change.
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>>77891313

So you're fine with a nigger in office?
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>>77891047
In hindsight, he was a great President. History will judge him one of the top five.
If he'd have controlled spending...top three.
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>>77891654
Mediocre as Obama is, he's still better than Bush.
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>>77891047
Regarding 2000-2008? No, I don't miss that time at all.

I have VR porn and almost self driving cars
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>>77891654
He's a typical moron product of our education system.
You can always tell the type. Someone told him what to think, so he did.
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>>77891724
>obongo
>better than le shoe man
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>>77891724
Bush did almost nothing wrong.
Obama destroyed the world economy.
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>>77891047
I wish I was 18 back in 2003. Would have love to be part of the Iraq invasion force.
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>>77891882

This.

>not signing up for the army just so you can shoot mudslimes

What the fuck, /pol/?
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2000s was the worst decade this far.
2010s shaping up to be even worse still

American life peaked 95
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>>77891802
No. He is not that at all.

He is radical socialist raised in Kenya, his real father is frank marshall davis

he is a genius manipulator, who probably wants to change the U.S. because he thinks we were colonialists or some shit
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It's fine here in Canada.

Trudeau just came to Vancouver and he announced new public transport projects, and the federal government is trying to do something about rising housing prices (not that it matters to me cause I have a home) and Microsoft just opened an office here. In Quebec, there are a ton of industries hiring so thats nice.

No I don't miss the recession. I remember in 2008 my parents and really everyone was afraid of losing their mortgage or getting laid off.
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>>77891925

I'm pretty sure that's Americentric, life over here seemed good for a long time.

Well obviously before Cameron got into Number 10.
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>>77891729
Did you see last week where the self-driving car side-swiped a bus to avoid a leaf or something?
This will turn out well.
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>>77891875
Nice b8
Got me good
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>>77891925
no, that is just nostalgia

you're wrong,

almost every year has been better due to technological innovation
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>>77891047
>By this point, the 2000s seem like a 1990s
probably because you weren't born in the 90s you little shit
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I was 8 when he got elected and 16 when Obama did. Don't remember much as I didn't care about politics then. I think it would be interesting to be an adult during his time.
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Bush was the first time we elected a dynasty president, and we got what we deserved because of it.
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>>77892020
Yes, I saw that video. Still better than human drivers imo
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>>77891425

Reddit and Fagbook becoming so natural. Before people didn't ask for your fagbook to hire you.
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>>77891943
Fuck. I was responding to Obongo?
I don't know if I buy your theory, anon.
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>>77891841
>>77891875
He got plenty wrong
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>>77891047
He kept us safe
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>>77891047
Jeb would have brought back that great feeling but they rejected and ridiculed him...
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>>77892035
Median household income has declined in real terms.

Technological innovation is cool and all, but life isn't automatically better because of it. You need the income to enjoy it but all income gains have gone to a small percentage of the population.
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Why would I miss that globalist piece of shit?
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>>77891925
1995 was the year America realized that Clinton was a total dolt on economics.
1996 saw the Republicans win the House for the first time in over 40 years.
Good times, anon.
Good times.
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>>77891972
Canada is the Nords of the West.
Good times until the oil money runs out.
Then it's back to grinding poverty.
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>>77891047
Yep.
Completely sick of the SJW culture that's grown since obongo took office.
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>>77892033
Not bait, princess.
For one, he never lied. That's why your masters tried so hard to convince you he did lie.
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>>77891724
Obama did what Bush did, but push it even further, at best, along with trying to create racial tension, disarm Americans, create the terrible Obamacare, funded ISIS, gave weapons to drug lords (without tracking devices), and more.

It is a complete lie that Obama was mediocre.
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No. They were even worse than Obama.

You should miss the Clinton years, when economic growth was out of control even with, frankly, a buffoon in the driver's seat.

George H.W. Bush was probably the most competent and honorable president we've had in a while.

Reagan, Ford and Carter...eh, they were all mediocre. Nixon...let's stop there and be glad it hasn't gotten worse than that.
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Bush was fucking terrible. He literally didn't do a single good thing for our country while it went from one of the most prosperous eras into one of the worst.
He literally engaged us in war for the benefit of the oil industry but was not nearly as smart as even his father.
In all actuality he will be regarded as close to the 10 worst presidents of all time.

He literally didn't do a single good thing for the people of this country
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>>77892326
our oil tanked hard.

thats why our dollar is fucked

the worst i've seen canadians financially was in 2008 but it wasn't as bad as in america.
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>>77892049
W was elected on his own merit.
Bush 1 wasn't appreciated yet in 2000, and was still looked down on as a semi-failure with only one triumph.
Hillary would be a dynasty. Elected because of her husband, despite the felonies.
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>>77892187
>He got plenty wrong
There's no arguing with your reams of data and sources.
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>>77891654

Remember a lot of people were ready to vote for Jesse Jackson before the "Hymietown" incident back in 88. lel. Frankly he was right of course haha

Bill Clinton is also known as our first black president
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>>77892207
Under Obama, there's been a terrorist attempt or attack every year in the US.
Under Bush...not one after the Clinton setup.
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>>77892598
>his own merit
You're telling me the election that invented the term "swiftboating" was meritorious?

He coasted on his dad's name all his life, straight into the White House.
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>>77892209
Because Jeb is a democrat.
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>>77891882

You're not allowed to die in war, Lithuania. You were meant to play basketball and have lots of white babies. Take the condom off before you cum. The white race needs you.
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>>77892464
>Obama did what Bush did
Obvious bait.
Someone who believed this wouldn't be online. They'd be picking garbage to find breakfast.
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>>77892512
You're ranting without data because you're stupid.
This is all the reply you're worth.
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>>77891697

Bush was basically identical to Obama.

Same expansion of government, same bombing sand nogs for Jews, same IQ, etc, etc.

If you don't notice the similarities you need to seriously evaluate your own partisanship and pull your head out of your ass.
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>>77891047
Clinton
>I'm gonna take yer guns! Get 'em Reno!

Bush
>Here's a gun, now go fight in the desert!

Obama
>I'd really like to take your guns and make you stop fighting in the desert but maybe not maybe I'll keep you in the desert forever with a combat doctrine that doesn't let you shoot the enemy because the enemy is us.

Clinton
>I'm going to take all your guns so you're defenseless in the white line madness that comes after I start a war with Russia that plunges the world into nuclear fire.
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>>77892512
The stimulus check was a "good thing for the people of this country."

Not enough for people to forget he was ready to hand over Social Security to Wall Street, but it was a thing.
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>>77892586
Canada was about to implode before you started lead mining, then found oil.
You have twenty years to diversify your econony. Tops.
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>>77891925

1995 was the year of Super Nintendo and Game Boy. Donkey Kong Country, Street Fighter II, Mario Kart...Pokemon was only a year off. We had radio, MUDs, cable TV, classic SUV's like the Chevy Blazer were on the market, 56k modems... Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness has just come out, the RHCP and U2 haven't released a garbage album yet...and it was still okay to say faggot.

1995 was close the peak of American culture. We'll never get better than that.
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>>77892009

I heard Britain was poor and crappy in the 80s
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>>77892757
>the election that invented the term "swiftboating"
The press invented that term, champ.
It meant to be honest in the face of opposition
>He coasted on his dad's name all his life, straight into the White House.
His dad didn't help him; his dad campaigning would have hurt him. He got elected because he made sense..
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>>77892020

Wait what

Nobody's ever told me to put WD40 on my brakes before
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>>77892787
Too late.
Lithuania is mostly Russian now.
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>>77893202
>honest
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiftboating
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>>77893054
Kurt Cobain was dead by then, though, and pic related wasn't out yet
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>>77892964
>Bush was basically identical to Obama.
I already called you stupid.
>Same expansion of government, same bombing sand nogs for Jews, same IQ, etc, etc.
We bombed Arabs because they attacked us, moronboy.
Same IQ comment gets you called retarded again.
>If you don't notice the similarities you need to seriously evaluate your own partisanship and pull your head out of your ass.
You give no facts, just idiotic statements.
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>>77893054
RIP desu
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>>77892048

As an adult having lived through Obama, it wasn't interesting so much as a prolonged series of disappointments and mediocrity.

After Bush, people were happy to settle for someone who at the very least would keep major crises and drama to a minimum. That is about all we got.

To have listened to the people who voted for him in 2008 you would have thought it was the second coming of Jesus. That's how badly we wanted a competent president.
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>>77893246
gee,I wonder why
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>>77892049

What about John Q. Adams or Franklin Roosevelt
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>>77892083

lol if they ask for your Facebook you walk out of the interview
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>>77893044
>he was ready to hand over Social Security to Wall Street
Because every retiree is supported by just two workers.
Your brand of stupid is why Obama won.
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>>77892326

Nords? Does that make us the Thalmor?
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>>77892880
>Continues to wage war in the ME, but also toppled more governments
>Expands Patriot Act
>Expands the power of more alphabet organizations
Tell me how Obama didn't push what Bush did?
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>>77891047
Why do Millenials glorify the 90s?
Grow the fuck up
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>>77891047
>inb4 underage b&

I never watched the debates he had with the democratic opponents...

Was he meme-tier, /pol/ ?

Any Highlights?
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>>77892083
they ask for access to your fb to hire you? ridiciulousssss
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>classic SUV's like the Chevy Blazer

95 Bronco Eddie Bauer Edition with a 351 ftw
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>>77893316
I don't need a crowdsourced explanation, ace.
Kerry and most of his own crew said he was good.
Every other boat and crew said he was not.
Simple as that.
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>>77892586

Everyone's oil tanked. Take Texas for example, it's still booming, even after the oil bust and a major flood. Other anon is right, diversify your bonds ngga
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>>77892598

W wasn't elected at all, actually.
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>>77893403
I remember how hopeful everyone seemed that election night in 2008. I can't believe anyone actually thought electing a half-black president with a name like Obama would change anything.

I remember Keith Olbermann ranting about George Bush. How much everyone HATED him. Golden age for the Daily Show.

It's all fucked up now, just give me Trump and burn the rest to the ground.
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>>77893368

lol like I said it was *close* to the pinnacle

I like you though anon
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>>77893403
>After Bush, people were happy to settle for someone who at the very least would keep major crises and drama to a minimum. That is about all we got.
Holy fuck.
Life must be peaceful when you have no clue what's going on in the world.
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>>77891654
I don't care that he's a nigger, I care that he's a fucking worthless nigger. Not all niggers are worthless, he is.
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>>77893377

Attacked sure... But not by Iraq or Afghanistan.

Denying the merit of IQ?

I don't even know what to say but if you're not a shill seriously reevaluate your view of this shit.
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>>77893905
>Al Quida is a country
It's like you've never heard of the Taliban
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>>77893820

Would you care to explain what you mean edgy one? And I'm just curious, how old are you?
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He toiled while the country burned. Literally the country went into a depression we just came out of last year under his watch.
His entire group of advisors consisted of dick cheyney, rumsfeld Condoleezza rice and his closest advisor Bandar bush- head of Saudi intelligence.
His entire think tank were all oil people, period. He waged war for the sake of the Saudis and the jews- Everyone purporting to think highly of him here knows this.
He sent American lives to go fight and due for Saudis and jews. I'll repeat that again,
He sent our soldiers to fight and die for the Saudis (roach ) and the jew (rat).

No child left behind was an utter fucking disaster. He payed virtually no attention to domestic matters,
He was busy stuffing his pockets with oil at upwards of 140 dollars a barrel to be concerned with the average person.

Wages literally hadn't risen from 2008 until last year,
He doesn't control the economy but he does set the precedent and provide oversight.

He literally became president and only managed to help himself and personal allies become more powerful at the expense of our countries welfare and standing in the world.

He was also a male cheerleader at Yale, literally I'm not making this up.
He pretended to be a cowboy but he was as much of a cowboy as the guy from the village people was.

He should be dragged out kicking and screaming by his bootstrap into a fucking field and shot in the face for treason
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>>77894012
America gone to shit with eight years of Obama you liberal. Racial Tension is in an all time high.The next president might be our last. The Soviet Union won the cold war.
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>>77893576
it really wasnt that great
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>>77891875
Why do you people try to rewrite history, like Bush isn't the one who did the bailouts?
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>>77894231

Everything you said is bullshit.
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>>77893573
.gov mission creep has been happening since Washington.
That's the only similarity, and it applies to every President except maybe Coolidge.
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>>77894348
You motherfucking White Liberal. There's a Race war abrewing, This country is falling apart faster than the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Only a idiot would be blind not to see it
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>>77893620

my nigga
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>>77893739
He was.
Look up 'electoral college'.
It's set up that way so that NYC doesn't outvote most states.
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>>77894294
Bush did one round of tiny bailouts. Then Obama came in 6 months later with the trillion dollar sweepstakes
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>>77894491
Did you forget about a judge deciding where to place Florida's vote?
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>>77893905
>Attacked sure... But not by Iraq or Afghanistan.
Yes, they both attacked us.
The rest of your post is nonsense.
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>>77891425

>this president walks into the race and slaps your girls ass

>what do?
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>>77894012
That post stood on it's own.
You say Obama kept the drama down. That's insane.
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>>77894208
Everything you typed is wrong and stupid except for
>He was also a male cheerleader at Yale, literally I'm not making this up.
Which only means he can probably still, at aga 68, kick your ass.
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>>77894681

If you had been an adult through the Bush years, you would know what shit hitting the fan was. It was a disgrace.
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>>77891047
>true patriot
>cared for his country
>real person, easily became friends with Putin and other world leaders
So far the best POTUS of my lifetime.
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>>77894294
>like Bush isn't the one who did the bailouts?
Literally, no one ever said that. Ever.
The bailouts were bi-partisan, and the money was paid back with interest. The US Treasury made money on that.
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>>77894782

Glad to see he's popular to people whose opinions don't matter.
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>Night is darkest before the dawn
Relax gents, nature always prevails
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Nah he was just another cuckservative.
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>>77894004

>attacked by Taliban
>decalare war on Saddam Hussein

Still doesn't make sense.

Obama and Bush were identical left-leaning kike puppets. Deal with it.
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>>77894871
>Fellow Anglo
>Opinion doesn't matter
Go vote for Shillary.
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>>77894856

I remember how excited liberals were that the government was an "investor" in GM, like they were on the bring of nationalizing everything lol

Too big to fail indeed, I love my Chevy
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>>77894559
>Did you forget about a judge deciding where to place Florida's vote?
This is a nonsense sentence.
Try again?
Even CBS News said that W won.
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>>77891047
fuck no he put the final nail in the coffin that killed American Freedom. He and his mad power grab after 2001 fucked America into a police state
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>>77894497
TARP and EESA2008 were for 700 billion.
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>>77892104
google it m8
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>>77894935

>attacked by ISIS
>declare war on Bashar Al-Assas

This poster is correct

Bush did a lot of things that made him even worse though. The Plame Affair was a real low-light, for instance. Impeachable offense, easily, but Scooter Libby took the fall for his boss.
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>>77894776
I was.
It didn't.
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>>77894935
The Taliban were the political arm of the Sunni Muhajideen that administers strict Sharia law on Afghanistan, the Al-Qaeda were a military wing of Wahabi Muhajideen to reinstate an Islamic Caliphate
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>>77894871
Thats certainly the case here. I loved the George Dubya era. God Bless America.
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>>77894935
>>decalare war on Saddam Hussein
>Still doesn't make sense.
Because you don't follow current events.
Saddam shot missiles at our UN-mandated overflys almost every day for years, and attacked our allies, and supported terrorists; yes, including al qauda or however they spell it today.
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>>77891047
Only in the sense that the Obama years have been exponentially worse, and Bush could not do worse than him.
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>>77895235

Well I miss the Julia era in Oz cause i kind of wanted to bone her
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>>77895235
This.

I pray that in the future people can appreciate Dubya regardless of all the leftist media demonizing him.
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>>77892787
I only realized the flag after I posted. I'm American but I'm in Lithuania at the moment.
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>>77894968
Obama violated Federal law with the auto bailout.
None of this would have happened without our elected Republicans looking the other way, which is why Trump will win this year.
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>>77895031
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>>77895299

>fly hostile missions over a sovereign nation
>get shot at

>Hurp a durp they're agressing on us.

I bet you think Crimea was a war of Russian aggression as well.

Keep slurping that Jewish semen baka.

>>77895081

At least now the populace has awoken a bit and won't stand for this BS on repeat and it looks like Obama will stay out of Syria.
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>>77894766
He could kick my ass because he was a male cheerleader at Yale?
Sounds realistic.
Cspan poll 2009- 36th best president
American political science poll 2015- 35th best
United states presidency center 2011- 31st best
US world and news report 2015- tied for 10th worst with Richard Nixon
http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/fixgov/posts/2015/02/13-obama-measuring-presidential-greatness-vaughn-rottinghaus
Brookings institute 2015- cheerleader cowboy 35th best president if 43

He will literally be looked at as one of the worst presidents this country has ever seen
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>>77895445
not a le argument
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>>77895075
Your picture is full of true and win.
I think you misunderstood my original post.
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You guys also forget that in addition to having to grant clemency to Scooter Libby, and making Colin Powell lie to the UN, the Attorney General he appointed, Alberto Gonzales told lies to members of Congress.

The AG who preceded him was a key force in getting the Patriot Act passed. Bush's cabinet and advisors were all corrupt motherfuckers.
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>>77895411

The auto bailout happened before Obama took office.
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>killed ~3000 people to go to war because muh legacy
>let bankers (jews) control themselves, causing a huge crash

One of the worst, at least H.W Bush was amazing though
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Back in 1999 I was a massive blue pilled faggot and GW Bush scared the hell out of me. I thought if it has to be a republican let it be McCain, even though back then we all thought he was ancient. (But fuck he's still going).

When Bush got a second term I was massively butthurt. The idea of seeing him dominating world news for the next four years caused me a lot of angst.

But you know what OP, in hindsight and with the current man in the white house (and also coz I've grown up and realised how the world works) I see he was a decent leader.

Back then the world worried about islamic terrorism. Now thanks to the current administration we are told to worry about tranny bathrooms, evil cops killing those lovely blm folks, we are told to fear white supremacist mass shooters, in fact everything BUT terrorism, despite the fact our muslim friends are going berserk against us.

Simpler times back then. Now things are more concerning but we just have our heads in the sand.

Also saw GW supporting Jeb earlier this year. Was like seeing an uncle for the first time in years, and getting sad coz you realise he's much older now and doesn't have the same spark. Still not as bad as Clinton though he's become a zombie.
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>>77895081
>>attacked by ISIS
>>declare war on Bashar Al-Assas
Iraq was attacking, too. 90% of the country decided it was time to stop it.
>The Plame Affair was a real low-light,
Fucking moron, Plame was on the covers of national magazines as a CIA agent before that.
>Impeachable offense, easily, but Scooter Libby took the fall for his boss.
Fucking moron, Libby was jailed for the same reason Martha Stewart was. Neither committed a felony, but both tried to volunteer too much to Federal agents. It's a felony to lie to a cop, even if you thought the lie was true.
Fucking Obama voters.
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>>77895485
>>fly hostile missions over a sovereign nation
UN mandated. Not only the US flying.
Not one post you've made even hints at an education.
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>>77893368
Good album anon, provided you've got enough drugs on hand
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>>77895488
>He could kick my ass because he was a male cheerleader at Yale?
Yes. Have you seen those fuckers?
And then you quote polls from liberal organizations.
Fuck, you're as dumb as our Canadian friend.
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>>77895535
Some anons are too dumb to respond to.
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>>77895562
>You guys also forget that in addition to having to grant clemency to Scooter Libby, and making Colin Powell lie to the UN, the Attorney General he appointed, Alberto Gonzales told lies to members of Congress.
Everything you typed is wrong and stupid.
Libby went to prison, Powell told the truth as reported by global intelligence agencies as well as both Clintons, and Gonzales...wtf are you even typing about?
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>>77895619
Nope. All Obama.
Before Obama, the US had three automakers.
Now we have two.
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>>77891047
Dude no.
It was the worst decade since the 60s.
There was a shitton of drama. It was awful.
You were probably like 8 at the time so you look back on it well.
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>>77895868
George Bush is literally coming to shit post of pol.

Your getting your shit rocked left and right.
Find me one credible source where the cheerleader cowboy was rated highly in relations to other presidents in the past 5 years.

Just provide one example and I'll shut up,
Until them the mountain of evidence is insurmountable for you.

I'm a die hard conservative and bush was an embarrassment at best
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I remember it. Every night on the fucking news, twitter and online news still weren't the main source yet, people watched evening news, you would hear of what was going on with the war in iraq
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>>77895949
Are you literally trying to argue that male cheerleaders are fucking tough.
It's you against like 20 people give it up.
http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/fixgov/posts/2015/02/13-obama-measuring-presidential-greatness-vaughn-rottinghaus
Brookings institute poll, this argument is over
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the 2000s
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>>77896254
>coming to shit post of pol.
Or someone who thinks for themselves.
>rated highly in relations to other presidents in the past 5 years.
It takes decades to see the impact of a President.
You're talking about opinion polls of a mal-educated American public. Look at data instead.
Bush wasn't perfect by a long ways. I'd have changed a lot of things. But overall, he did ok.
Not one of the charged laid in this thread is true. They could have said he spent too much, or tied the hands of troops he sent to war, or etc. But liberals aren't smart.
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>>77895868

Wow it was UN mandated. I guess the UN can just be aggressive as it wants against any country on earth with no repercussions ever right?
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>>77892035
that image reminds me of soma
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>>77896385
>people watched evening news,
Where internal polls show 80%+ support and vote democrat.
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>>77896582
Did you really say mal -educated?http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/fixgov/posts/2015/02/13-obama-measuring-presidential-greatness-vaughn-rottinghaus

So Brookings institute is bipartisan and the premier thinktank.
How you gonna work around this one ^?

Also everyone press one if this guy is fucking retarded
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>>77896678
What does that have to do with what I'm talking about?
Most people got their news about Iraq from the big three
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>>77896401
>Are you literally trying to argue that male cheerleaders are fucking tough.
Yes. Gay, usually, but irrelevant here.
>It's you against like 20 people give it up.
No, it's me against someone who doesn't know the difference between fact and opinion.
>Brookings institute
A Washington D.C. think tank? You must be very smat.
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>>77891047
No, because Blair and Brown were shite,
If we could turn back the clock, the Yanks could have based W and we got our shit together and elected Howard, then yes.
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>>77896632
Pretty much, yeah.
If that country spends it's money on bread and circuses like Europe and Canada, or Russian-made weapons like Iraq, instead of tanks.
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i can't recall anything good during the bush years, that was the beginning of the monetizing of college, the beginning of the luxury student apartments "trend"

everything became more expensive thanks to bush
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>>77896821
>Did you really say mal -educated?
Everyone knows this, anon.

Appealing to the board for sympathy is pathetic. Instead, put aside what you "know" is correct and look for hard data to back up your opinions.
And if you don't find it, change your opinion. Don't try to change the data like the warmists do.
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gas was $1.33 a gallon in 2004
one dollar in 2004 is worth $2 in todays value.
one dollar in 1994 is worth $1.25 in 2004's value

you have to be fucking retarded to miss bush
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>>77896832
This is the worst argument ever.
>Don't look at 'fact', look at opinions for truth!1!
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>>77896858
Literally there is no way to weasel out of this, no one here is going to say that the brookings institute isn't the premier think tank in the world let alone the United states
http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/fixgov/posts/2015/02/13-obama-measuring-presidential-greatness-vaughn-rottinghaus
For all your bullshit this did you in ^
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>>77893368
Objectively the better album to shoot up too
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>>77892256
>1996 saw the Republicans win the House for the first time in over 40 years.
???
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>>77897161
>>77896821
>>77896401
Autismo Maximus
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>>77897072http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/fixgov/posts/2015/02/13-obama-measuring-presidential-greatness-vaughn-rottinghaus

pretty sure that the guys over at the brookings institute are a bit more knowledgeable than you or I.

you can keep shit posting but this did you in no matter what
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>>77897035
>that was the beginning of the monetizing of college, the beginning of the luxury student apartments "trend"
You're wrong, champ.
That started when Obama quit making you pay back student loans. Colleges charge as much as they can, and now the .gov will give you as a much of a loan as they can, and tuition will continue to go up.
Blaming Bush for college costs is retarded. .gove wasn't involved back then.
I can tell you've been educated by liberals.
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>>77897118
Oil prices are set by supply and demand, not government.
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>>77897193
House of Representatives, not the presidency.
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>>77897161
>say that the brookings institute isn't the premier think tank in the world let alone the United states
This is the most moronic conversation ever.
Dude. No one gives a fuck.
If you'd like to quote specifics, do so. No one is going to go read whatever the fuck that link is. Excerpt something or go back to /mlp/.

Like thusly:
http://www.un.org/apps/news/printinfocusnews.asp?nid=354
Chemical:
The nerve agent VX is one of the most toxic ever developed.
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable. Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq said that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account. There are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared. Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than declared.
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>>77897295
>pretty sure that the guys over at the brookings institute are a bit more knowledgeable than you or I.
You? Yes. So is my coffee cup.
Me? I wouldn't know. Proof?
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>>77897172
It also led to Fight Club. Good times to be had there, too.
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>>77891047
The Iraq war was justified and necessary.
Necessary:
From before my lifetime, the US was accused of, and did, prop up dictators for our own purposes (tbf, as all other world powers do). It was used as a club against us.
Bush proved that they didn't want freedom.
It was a gamble, but the payoff of a democratic Iraq would have been enormous. The chance had to be taken, just once.
Justified:
9/10 of Americans wanted it. We had September 11, a beltway sniper, at least two other planes crashed into buildings, and mass-mailings of poison to political leaders. Saddam was paying bounties to suicide bombers and claiming WMD's, which we knew he'd used recently.
Then, like now, we all agreed that something had to be done about those arabs. We were being attacked, and none one else could do it. Bill Clinton signed the removal of Saddam into US law.

Side note: all the western nations who opposed us (Germany, France, etc), Russia, plus Koffi and his son, made millions on saddams oil-for-food and/or selling weapons to him. That's why they opposed it. Euros are the only people since Japan in the 1930's who have went to war specifically for oil.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/printinfocusnews.asp?nid=354
The investigation of these rockets is still proceeding. Iraq states that they were overlooked from 1991 from a batch of some 2,000 that were stored there during the Gulf War. This could be the case. They could also be the tip of a submerged iceberg. The discovery of a few rockets does not resolve but rather points to the issue of several thousands of chemical rockets that are unaccounted for.
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>>77891047
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Task+Force+Devil+New+War+on+Terror
Bush had it exactly right in Afghanistan.
He used SpecOps to earn the respect of the local leaders. There was real success.
Obama, ignoring all of history, decided on a full-scale invasion. For his own political gain.
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>>77891047
Fuck Dubya that spic loving fuck

He really fucked us on the border
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>>77897741
>>77897788
Delusion.
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>>77897433
It's funny how all of those blue stains coincide with bad times for our country.
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>>77897974
And yet...truth.
So, you say delusion = truth.
That says a lot about liberals, doesn't it?
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>>77891724
Wow, we really are being raided by reddit
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>>77897433
Did Dole ever have a shot in 1996?
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>>77897161
>http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/fixgov/posts/2015/02/13-obama-measuring-presidential-greatness-vaughn-rottinghaus
Ok, anon. I met you halfway.
First problem: it's a poll of historians. Not economists, or security experts, or anything useful. It's a poll about opinion polls, ffs. It's a fucking opinion piece.
I wonder where you are in this chart?
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>>77895542
I am just saying that Obama is a socialist by nature, not by being told

he is a fuckin fagit
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>>77897161
Here's an especially retarded quote from your retarded link in your retarded post:
>For example, he is the midpoint in terms of both personal integrity and military skill (e.g., 10th of 19 in both categories)
Lol, motherfucker. No one of normal intelligence will buy that.
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>>77897161
I lost 10 IQ point reading this crap, anon.
>First, it is easy to infer that scholars and the public alike expected greatness from Obama early on and awarded it to him prematurely.
>Second, scholars seem to hold Barack Obama in high regard personally, but view his skills and performance as mediocre to poor. Few think of Obama as an excellent president, while many more rate his presidency quite low, with the bulk of experts appearing to give him a passing grade but not one that would get him on the Dean’s list.
I guess you like him...because it's you. Welcome to /pol/, Mr. President, now resign please.
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>>77891047
fuck off bong, you weren't here.

>>77898353
>a socialist by nature
wow, a double-meaningless scare-phrase.

good job, senpai
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>>77894242
It was as shit as always. Better than the 80s, but en par with the 00s or even worse, because flat screens
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>>77891047
The only thing good about the 00's was that you could make fun of faggots and muslims without having your life ruined.

If you made fun of black people back then you were crucified even more than today.
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>>77892020
>to avoid a leaf
a fucking LEAF
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>>77898887
Underlying tech courtesy of Google.
Even when liberals are smart, they manage to be morons about it.
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>>77894294
>le reddit rewrite history meme.

You mean like niggers do with egyptians?
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>>77899311
At least that has a grain of truth. Blacks did rule Egypt for 1,000 years. They just didn't contribute to it's greatness.
Liberals don't know and don't care about anything not having to do with skin color, genitals or banning something.
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>>77895142
>the Al-Qaeda
kek
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>>77896413
even the memes were better
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>>77891047
I'd posit that the dubya years were directly responsible for how bad it has gotten nowadays
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>>77899722

>Blacks did rule Egypt for 1,000 years

WE
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>>77899722
Taharqa and the other black Kushite rulers enacted a prosperous era and the renaissance of the ethnical eqyptian root culture, instead of destroying or subverting it. I would call that contributing in a historically rare positive way

The blacks really were pharaohs for a time, just not most of the time

Still, I don't get why they go on about Eqypt and not about the kingdom of Kush itself, which is 100% legit wewuz tier and where the black pharaohs came from in the first place
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>>77893883
>Not all niggers are worthless

wut?
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No he was the same as obama
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>>77902791

>not knowing about economic cycles
>not knowing about the dotcom crash
>thinking grow will just keep happening just because

How do retards like you still exist?
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>>77891047
Thanks for your service, mr military industrial complex shill

How is that cancer going?
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>>77904430
other way around faggot
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>>77891047
I will find Katrina and bring her to justice.
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yeah we luv W
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>>77905844
Leave Katrina alone! She dindu duffin. The whites were pestering her and stuff and she lost her cool.
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I miss the early 2000's sure, not for W in particular, but just my life at that time.

I miss the 1990's more though. It was just a better time in general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mkEZRtVcMw
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>>77891047

Yea, even back then people could at least make jokes and there was some hope; sometime around 2008 it went bad when Obama got into office.

If Hillary wins, I think it's pretty much over for the world.
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>>77891047
The Bush years were the shittiest by far

George Bush revoked the security clearances from all members of Congress except for the top 8 in leadership. Then he created an office within the Pentagon to disseminate false information. Then the lies started flowing like a firehose.

His staff repeated crafted disinformation to the public in a well-orchestrated fear campaign. It was the most deliberately dishonest propaganda campaign in American political history.

Bin Laden's alQaeda was based in Afghanistan. He was the mastermind behind the Sept 11 attacks. He killed 4000 Americans that day. Afghanistan has no oil.

Bush invaded Iraq. Iraq was the 5th largest oil producer in the world at that time. Iraq had not attacked and it didn't even threaten to attack the US. The Bush regime fabricated the false narrative that Iraq was about to attack the US to terrify the people into making really poor choices.

By taking Iraq's oil production offline, oil became more scarce and the price skyrocketed. Halliburton was handed a no-bid contract to very slowly rebuild the oil wells and refineries. Cheney earned almost $40 million on his Halliburton stock alone.

It's no surprise right-wing conservatives are so desperate to re-write the history textbooks in Texas. The facts alone are a disaster for the oil barons that engineered the war.
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>>77893054
>>77893368
shilling this because it reminds me of what you said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mkEZRtVcMw
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>>77895075
Unprincipled conservatives who shrieked with outrage that Obama's personal records were sealed are not shrieking with outrage that Anonymous revealed Donald Trump's tax information. Galactic class hypocrisy.

We need better leaders. The Cons want to take us in the opposite direction.
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>>77897741
>Bush proved that they didn't want freedom.
The opposite is true. When Bush Bush killed the leadership and fired the entire Ba'athist government, Iraq became a lawless state with brutal predatory gangs looting the terrified population. 2.5 million citizens were reduced to poverty-stricken refugees fleeing sectarian strife.

Bush single-handedly created the worst humanitarian crisis of the new millennium.

The power vaccum led to the creation of ISIS and other extremist factions. Iraqi leaders were already brainwashed Islamic theocrats. Their idea of "freedom" is strict Sharia law.

>It was a gamble, but the payoff of a democratic Iraq would have been enormous. >The chance had to be taken, just once.

It was poorly planned and executed even worse. Infrastructure broke down immediately. There was zero plans for continuing government services. Rule of Law was all but eliminated. It was an unmitigated disaster in human and capital terms.
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>>77891047
Nah bro.. Right now is like the 90s.. The 00s were crazy
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>>77912934
Yeah all of the media certainly didn't buy the Iraq war at the beginning, and the Clintons totally are the grace of God.
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>>77891047
I miss how he proved every day that a man comes from monkey.
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>>77912851
>it went bad when Obama got into office.

It was really bad for the right-wing conservative White Supremacists having a black president

The Christian coalition lost their minds that a (falsely accused) "Muslim" was elected.

The neo-nationalists had a collective aneurysm over a (falsely accused) "Kenyan" winning.

Wall Street absolutely shit its shorts knowing a Chicago lawyer got elected.

So it was bad for the worst people in America, but the made-up reasons they hated him weren't true.
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Clinton & Bush years = best years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZeJHwBe550
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>>77891047
Yes. I really hope Trump wins or I may just swim out into the ocean until I can't swim anymore.
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>>77916606
Get some swimming lessons.
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Bush was a completely evil bastard.

Started 2 wars and 2 occupations, for no reason.

created homeland security
created welfare programs like prescription drug plan.
had a simulus plan where the irs gave people money. stupid as hell keynesian garbage.

all the while he acted like obama - a happy go lucky moron.
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>>77891313
>>77891724
I just want you to know how noticeable you are, nigger.

Also, cute how you always straighten out your punctuation when you're called out, nigger.
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The bush years had the best happenings in my lifetime. I remember people crying in my class on 9/11 I was on the teachers PC trying to check out news sites excited like Christmas morning.
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>>77893620
This desu.

Obama's mpg/pedestrian safety bullshit is killing cars and making them bloated pieces of shit
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>>77891047
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Reminder that Obama will be remembered as one of the top 10 POTUSes. Bush II will be remembered as one of the 10 worst. DJ Chump will never be president.
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>>77893706
Ports mother fucker, do you have them?
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>>77917319
I despise Little Americans.
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>>77892747
Wow, you found the one president worse than Bush Jr.
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>>77891047
Single-handedly killed the Republican Party
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Not a very good pres, but MUCH more likable than Obama. He never came off as a huge douche.
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