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Was red pilled in your opinion? Even more so than Adolf?

Inb4 1 post by this id
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>>77790277
Nobody ever follows his teachings because they are too hardcore. So I can't say.
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>>77790497
Also you should clarify that is Jesus Christ, not Rasputin.
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>>77790497
>too hardcore
What do you mean? He said love God and your neighbor
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>>77790540
Rasputin doesn't look like how I'd imagine Jesus to look desu
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>>77790614
And he also said

>But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Just about nobody can maintain this. There has not been a society since his death that has followed his teachings properly. Or if there were, they were consumed by those who did not. Jesus's teachings are all about sacrificing oneself for the good of others.
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A more educated guess of what Jesus may have looked like.
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>>77790277
>Be a based roman
>A kike preach you to be a submissive cuck
>Follow his teachings
>Turn into a weak shithole and get invaded by the Eternal Kraut

>Be the Eternal Kraut
>Learn from the roman's mistakes
>Remove the cuck elements from this religion and create catholicism
>Conquer Europa and force Supreme Cuckery(Eternal Kraut Version) upon your fellow white brothers
>Years later, Martin Cuckther bring again Supreme Cuckery(Pure Version)
>The West slowly become a degenerate shit hole like the Roman Empire
>The West is now invaded by all the planet
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>>77790277
You understand that Jesus Christ was LITERALLY a Jew, correct? How the fuck do people even believe in god, let alone worship, WORSHIP A FUCKING JEW. And that is seen as "normal" in society. Please stop with this shit.
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>>77790832
On the contrary I'd say the societies that were the most successful are the ones were honesty, self-sacrifice and helpfulness are comme and valued.

Hilariously evil civilizations like the Inca or the Assyrians didn't get very far.
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>>77791003
>asspull: the 3D model
Next you're gonna tell us the pale, long-haired Jesus only appeared in the Renaissance because of Cesare Borgia being used as a model.
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>>77791099
Most of the successful societies have a gentle population of civilians, and an absolutely psychotic leadership and military.
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>>77791003
Both this gif and the picture you are responding to could easily be two different people from the same village. One looks far more charismatic than the other and the messianic/sicarii movement was based on charisma. They had to convince people that they (not the other guys they were competing with) were the real son of god and the messiah. That's some kind of competition
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>>77790277
>3 posts by this ID
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>>77790277
The Jews did nothing wrong.

Jesus was an anticapitalist socialist bastard.

Jesus forgave everyone except for people who made money.

Suck dick for a living and you can go to heaven, as long as you didn't get rich sucking dick.
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>>77791003
>A more educated guess of what Jesus may have looked like.

Mullet. Makes sense now.
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>>77790277
Fuck off, christcuck
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>>77790277
jewsus never said anything new or profound at all, most of his morals were plagiarized from stoicism
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>>77791003
not if the shroud of turin is authentic.
the last tests i read about them doing on it dated it to the first century so it's probable.
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>>77790832
Jesus had it right. But don't twist it to make it seem like he wouldn't want you to defend yourself from terror like Islam brah
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>>77791095
Jesus was the Son of God
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>>77790277
>image.png

Who?
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>>77791428
Wrong. Read the scriptures
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>>77792779
The man known as Christ Jesus
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>>77790277

You think your opinion is 'Red Pilled' when you haven't even swallowed the original universal Red Pill scribed by Thoth himself.

I bet you think that below is different from above.
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>>77792413
This really does make your think
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>>77792806
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Forgave everyone but the lazy.
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>>77792862
Jesus>Thoth
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>>77793011
SB everyone but the productive.>>77793084
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>>77792843
Oh ok. Then the answer to OP's question is no.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=typ2pl2L47k

Yes, he revealed and rebuked the Jews aka Synagogue of Satan.
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>>77793011
>Jesus’ message is clear—it is impossible for anyone to be saved on his own merits. Since wealth was seen as proof of God’s approval, it was commonly taught by the rabbis that rich people were blessed by God and were, therefore, the most likely candidates for heaven. Jesus destroyed that notion, and along with it, the idea that anyone can earn eternal life.
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>>77790277
>whiny self-hating jew compensates for his tiny penis by using anger at WWI reparations to take over a country
>redpilled

lol
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>>77793132
Jesus wasn't red pilled?
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>>77790277
>if someone strikes you on the face, turn the other cheek and let them do it again rather than fight back :^)

sure thing cuck
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>>77793246

Jesus was a philosopher, he was not the son of a space god and he wasn't resurrected.
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>>77793246
>anyone can earn eternal life.
Anyone that isn't rich that is.

Jesus also went after the money lenders. Can't get more anticapitalist than that.

Jesus was just another idiot that thought usury was immoral.
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>>77792751

>Jesus was the Son of God

Evidence?

Mary gave birth to him, and she wasn't a virgin.
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>>77793425
Lol Jesus wasn't a cuck. He is Savior
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>>77793497
I disagree
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>>77793522
Are you a fucking kike
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>>77793689
Joseph was the cuck
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>>77793594
Where's your evidence that she wasn't
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>>77793320
No, just because he threw a hissy fit because he wasn't accepted as messiah and called some Jews "church of satan" and shit like that doesn't mean he was redpilled.

When even someone like Marx has a better understanding of the nature of the kikes than "I'm only coming to the lost houses of Israel" "Salvation is from the Jews" Jesus, then that's saying something.
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>>77793770
Not really. Jesus was God in the flesh. He humbled himself and came to die for us. That is love
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>>77793874
He raped his mom so she could birth to him.

That is some fucked up repugnant shit.
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>>77790614

>He said love God and your neighbor
>your neighbor is a negro
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>>77790277
To be honest, Muhammed, I am a Jew, and as much as I hate Islam and most, there is much to admire with Muhammed.
Yes, he's a piece of shit, yes, he's a warlord and pedophile and much, much more.
But then I look at what he's accomplished:
He created a Religion all on his own, which would end up being a massive nation and unite the whole region together, and create a culture that would span more then a thousand years, he tricked everyone into believing he was a prophet and his "book" that he or his follower wrote, would have obvious clues that it was all for the benifit of himself.
He shaped the world around to his favor, and destroyed every opposition that was.

But in the end he is still a cunt.
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>>77793816

Jesus. That literally proves his mother was not a virgin.
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>>77793713

You can disagree, doesn't mean much. If you seriously think he came back from the dead you don't belong in educated debates, it slows progress.
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>>77793689

A savior?

He was a philosopher.
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>>77791003

>Believing jew scientists who try to brown wash superior white jesus
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>>77791059
>Based
>Roman
Pick one.
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>>77794367

Jesus was Arab.
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>socialist unemployed hippie
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>>77793874

No, Jesus was a normal human being. He died because he lost and the Jews were terrorists in Roman times.
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>>77790277
Hitler got the Red Pill from Nietzche and Nietzche was a fedora tipper.
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>>77794443
The Bernie Sanders of his day.

Again I say, the Jews did nothing wrong.
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>>77790277
No, he was a demented Jewish millenarian, a small time cult leader like many in his time. His demented rantings (love your enemy, give away everything you have) suggest he thought the world will end soon and there is no need to build a community that could last. The intellectual value of christianity comes from its hellenization and romanization later. pretty much 100% of valuable Christian thought comes from the Greco-roman world and was absorbed into that tiny kike cult later. They really needed good philosophers to circumvent their original rabbi's deranged "teachings" (no, no Jesus didn't mean to be suicidally pacifistic, even though he explicitly said it, you just should wage a just war and think of restraining violence if it's not neccessary, etc)
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>>77793522
>Anticapitalist
>Befriended tax collectors even though everyone hated them
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>>77794075
It's a sad world we live in when swede knows what it's like to "live next to a negro".
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>>77794443
I believe he was a carpenter by trade, my good man
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>>77794669

Pretty sure that's story embellishment. Nobody can say for certain what Jesus profession was by trade other than Philosopher in his later 20s.
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>>77794225
(((Anyone))) (with common sense) can create something big using dirty ways.

It is harder to create something amazing while staying pure, and with good moral.

How can someone enjoy creating something with trickery, and other stuff. It is no fun, so easy, like taking a candy from a child. Jews seem to like to laugh at stupid people, who are easy to trick. Literally can not understand how this is enjoyable/fun. There is no challenge!
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how about that rude giant kid that got his head smashed in by David, I dono he wasn't no neighbor.

Is it okay to kill, like David killing Goliath or Joshua eliminating Canaanites? Or is killing forbidden?

Exodus 20:13
“You shall not murder.”
Exodus 22:2
“If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.”
Leviticus 24:15–16
“Whoever curses his God shall bear his sin. And whoever blasphemes the name of the LORD shall surely be put to death.”
Leviticus 24:17
“Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.”
1 Samuel 17:50
So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone, and struck the Philistine and killed him.

https://answersingenesis.org/contradictions-in-the-bible/a-time-to-kill/
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>>77792674
>he wouldn't want you to defend yourself from terror like Islam brah

That is exactly what he wanted you to do.
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>>77794879

The old Testament should have nothing to do with the New Testament.

They are completely different things and confusing when put together as one "teaching" .

brb plucking out my left eye for looking at married womens butts
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>>77794278
>circular logic
Opinion discarded Jesus is the Son of God
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>>77790832
>turn the other check
There was a group who did this
They were call Cathars
They become big in southern France
They got absolutely fucking wrecked by the Catholic Church.
They were quite similar to modern Christianity, though a little more fanatic with their "turn the other check"
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>>77795005

Are you trolling?

I believe you are, i just have actually met hardcore zealot Christians that say that and are serious lmao.
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>>77791428
Capitalism is shit and so are you for following it. Hitler followed in Jesus' example and tried to rid his country of the greedy shysters known as (((capitalist))). I hope when TDOTR comes you have a different tune.
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>>77793770
You are a BLASPHEMER

< gas chamber
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>>77794879
David the original shepherd lives matter.

People fell for the underdog crap thousands of years ago.

Imagine the battle had gone the other way. Never would have been any mention of the battle.

If Goliath would have won the headline would be:

Shepherd boy takes on Goliath the warrior one on one, earns Darwin award.
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>>77794720
False. Roman texts prove almost all of the claimants during Jesus's life and disprove nothing
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>>77795192
>Hitler followed in Jesus' example
The Jews did nothing wrong.
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Jesus was a SJW.
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>>77795480

I'm pretty sure Historians can agree Jesus was a real person, but they continue to have trouble recounting his life.

There are many compelling arguments for him being a myth as well as Jesus being a conglomeration of multiple teachings from multiple "jesi" of the time.

There is no physical evidence of Jesus having existed, but this is circumvented as the burden of proof in history is much lower than proving something exists in science.

All i can say to you is, there is no true answer here, if you want to say he was a carpenter and xyz source proves it, you will be wrong and most historians will point out that there is not enough evidence to run on.
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God commanded the Jews to take over the land that would become Israel and to kill all the members of the cultures that resided there. The purpose was to establish spiritual purity. The surrounding cultures would have corrupted the Jews and God wanted them to remain true to his Commandments. Of course, they disobeyed him and didn't kill all the women, children, and animals as he commanded and the surrounding cultures corrupted them.

then we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place then?
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>>77790277
we don't even know 100% if he existed in the first place
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>>77795662

>God commanded

Evidence?
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>>77795725

From a historian perspective, something certainly existed, this is beyond a doubt.

Speaking scientifically, you're right, there is no proof.
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>you hate jews
>jews denied GOD
>Jews done fucked up

Only if they had listened to GOD
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>>77790277

>used to be an edgy atheist
>now believe god
>mfw leaning towards christianity

the ULTIMATE red pill (no matter what your beliefs are) is self-sacrifice. giving your life for a cause is the most based thing any human being can do while they're alive.
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>>77795902
>Only if they had listened to GOD

Then I'd still hate them because they're a deceiving sandnigger tribe.
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>>77795902

God was an invention of a younger more bright-eyed Earth.
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>>77795649

you're always gonna find gaps in history if you look hard enough.
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>>77795955

Giving up your life is the most ignorant thing you can possibly do for almost any cause.

Christianity has been the greatest excuse for bad people to get away with doing bad things for thousands of years.

"They will be punished when they die for being bad!" -Christianity

Don't sacrifice your life or let people run over you, those are the real answers to having a good life.
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>>77796009

Aren't even being deceived right now as you are living your pitiful as so called human life
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>>77796038

LMAO 10/10

You don't have to look hard to find in gaps in history, it's literally one of the most pressing concerns in the field, histories gaps aren't people being nitpicking atheists, they are massive and on the scope of sometimes covering hundreds of years.

Got me to reply though.
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>>77796155

Said like a true reptilian.
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>>77790277
>Worshipping a kike on a stick

you all might as well be Jewish
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>>77796179

explain please. i probably knew during my edgy atheist years but not anymore.
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>>77796223
Only if I was the first snake on the tree of Good and Evil, then you will know but that doesn't seem to matter anyways for you.
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>>77796305

Why do i have to explain something that's axiom.

We would have no need for archaeology or professional historians of human history was so well documented that finding gaps was "nitpicking" or "looking hard".

You see, it's not me holding an opinion and trying to sway you. I'm telling you how it is, and if you need evidence of that it needs to be done on your own time doing your own research. I don't feel like you were properly prepared for this discussion.
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>>77796155
My English isn't good enough to find some meaning in that drivel.
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>>77796363

The story of Creation isn't real, it was the equivalent of a nursery rhyme.

I understand where you're coming from, and hostility will just make you retreat. But i'm telling you that most of what happened in the old testament isn't true, just like Santa Clause.
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>>77794879
>combat
>self defense
>castle doctrine
>justified execution
none of these things are murder
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>>77796239
where did "kike on a stick" originate from?

could've sworn i'd heard it in a movie somewhere, with vikings or something.
seems more like a jab at jehovah's witnesses than christians though, since christians believe he died on a cross and not a stick.

i know "magic sky fairy" is from those darkmatter youtube atheist cartoons, but since that one has the word 'kike' in it, it probably didn't come from the same reddit/youtube atheist crowd.
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>>77793011
>forgave everyone but the lazy

actually is *willing* to forgive everything except the refusal to believe the truth (that's what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is)

but you do have to do you part, which is a little more work than popping a pill and jacking back into the matrix to fight to keep everyone in it (free your mind? yeah right mr morpheous=dream)

verdict: more red pill than the red pill
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>>77796419
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>>77796540

murder for a cause is still murder.
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>>77795725
There are a great many people and things that can't be proven scientifically in history.
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>>77796655

Yea, I'm a Nazi for using spoopy facts.

Good luck bud.
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>>77796715

Correct, and their truthfulness is equally difficult to prove scientifically. Bayesian analysis is what historians use, and it's flawed.

Nothing in history is 100% and it's mostly open to interpretation, very little facts here.
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The amount of heresy in this thread. https://www.holycouncil.org
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>>77796765

atheism is degenerate senpai, get out while you still can.
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>>77796690
No, it isn't. Do you not know what murder is? All of those things involve someone being killed, but none of them are murder.
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>>77796914

I'm agnostic, i don't have the ability to prove or disprove anything so the only logical way to be is agnostic.
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>>77796923

A rose by any other name...
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>>77790277
Jesus IS the red pill.
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>>77797007
>hurr what's the point in naming flowers? they're all the same anyway
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>>77790832
The evidence is that she consummated her marriage, and if she didn't, her marriage was illegitimate
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>>77797094

Different, some very different. But they are all flowers.

Murder is murder, doesn't matter what you want to call it self defense or for a cause.

I live in Texas and i own guns and i have no problem killing someone who tries to kill me, just need to throw that out there before you call me a liberal or some nonsense.
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>>77790277
Jesus IS the bread pill
He is the ultimate way and end
He is the one who push us to become perfect as him
To die and live four our brothers and sisters
To make everyone overcome the weakness of the flesh to surpass the mortal bounds
and literally pierce the heavens to see GOD in all his glory
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>>77797223
>Murder is murder

Murder is the unjustified killing of another human being.

Emphasis on unjustified. Once there's a justification, like in self defense, it's not murder.

Your position loses its ground if you don't redefine murder.
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>>77797575

mur·der
ˈmərdər/
noun
noun: murder; plural noun: murders

1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
"the stabbing murder of an off-Broadway producer"


Define "law" please. Thanks.
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>>77797665
What is a law?
How does man define the law? The New Oxford American Dictionary defines law as:

1. (often the law) the system of rules that a particular country or community recognizes as regulating the actions of its members and may enforce by the imposition of penalties

2. a statement of fact, deduced from observation, to the effect that a particular natural or scientific phenomenon always occurs if certain conditions are present

3. the body of divine commandments as expressed in the Bible or other religious texts.
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>>77797665
Law would be the shit in Leviticus that's usually referenced as "contradiction" in the Bible.
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The race issue
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>>77797831

Which definition do you want to use to say my claim is incorrect?
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>>77797887

Okay if you are using the bibles definition of "law" you are not allowed to kill for -any- reason.

It is all the same in the eyes of your God.
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>the ultimate red pill is when you die.....there is no turning back....you had your chances...you made a choice....now suffer the consequence of your ignorance....eternal darkness...welcome to the abyss.
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>>77798001
The very fact that Leviticus puts the death sentence upon certain things show that you're wrong.
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>>77798050

Are you going to compare yourself to Leviticus?

Regardless Leviticus also says "Anyone who takes the life of a human being is to be put to death."

Obviously different from saying he kills people. The irony is that the people who put killers to death are therefore also killers.

The old testament is nonsense. That's probably why you're confused.
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>>77798146
At least he can still repent for his SINS
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>>77798201

mmhmm

Christianity (or whatever you follow) sure must make life easy for you. Do whatever you want son, just repent at midnight.

I'm not atheist now, I'm just not stupid.
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>>77791095
Jesus came to save the Jews from themselves and was the son of God. It was pointed out to them in the old testament but they decided not to follow and had him killed. You can thank Paul for spreading the word of Jesus. Instead of being a cock, look into becoming Orthodox and saving yourself.
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>>77798454

Jesus was a philosopher, claiming he is the son of God only slows everyone down. If you can't argue for Jesus's teachings without saying "because God" then you should feel secure enough about what you believe to not argue about it in the first place.
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Fucking hell faggots, stop posting pics of the devil in the OP
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>>77798528
Naw, Jesus thought other jews were greedy so he fucked there shit up and cure everyone of retardation, super aids and all kinds of shit, but roman fag lords had to stake him, because a nigger jew sold him, see he had the cure all along but some faggots had to go and kill him, we could of cured everything already, even this cancer.
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>>77799179
>but roman fag lords had to stake him
Wasn't it because there were millions of Jews in Rome for some reason, and they said they would destroy it if they didn't execute Jesus?
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>>77799179

I agree, it has slowed human progress.

But that's what humans do, they want 2+2 to equal 22 when they know it equals 4.
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>>77790277
I am Jesus, I will correct the world soon. Calling for my name as the final curtains close.
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>>77790277
>Even more so than Adolf?

Adolf was bluepilled as fuck.
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>>77799788

Hitler is villianized because he lost. He did do terrible things sure.

America has done far worse under single presidencies.
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>>77794864
> (((Anyone))) (with common sense) can create something big using dirty ways.

yeah sure just like how "Anyone" can turn 1 million dollars into 7 billion right?
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>>77790277
nbnv
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>>77790277
it was just a jew who was tired of all the jews tricks and invented spiritual socialism to cause a split in the jews community (probably lots of jews were unhappy with their shit cause being a jew was fun only if very rich)
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>>77790277
Is that the Jewish Arab that ended up on a stick?
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>>77790277
>Those who pick up the sword shall perish by the sword
Whelp better turn in my guns and turn the other cheek to Ahmed when he rapes my sister.
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>>77793522
It wasnt money lenders it was money changers because it was a common practice that only a special currency could be used to donate at the temple. Jesus viewed this as people putting a barrier between god and other people.
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>>77790277

kike agent to weaken rome.
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>>77794404
>>77791095
Not in spirit form.
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