Elon Musk says he wants to put a colony on Mars by 2022. Do you think he can do it? Does a Mars colony make any sense even? How would they get food and water?
>>77779669
How do you get food and water on earth ?
>>77779669
Food and water are p easy, mars has a ton of ice actually, the bigger problem is the gravity on the planet stretching you out.
I'd fucking go. Get me the fuck off this dumb shithole.
Read this shit. It's 100% doable.
> TL,DR: Nuclear powered chemical reacors arrive early and start making water, oxygen, and rocket fuel for the return flight, if any
>>77779669
6 years? Not a chance. We're not even going to visit it in 6 years, or 16 years, let alone put a colony there. Perhaps we'll colonize in, like, 100 years when/if we have gravity control technology since the low surface gravity precludes human reproduction; the fetus doesn't develop correctly and at best you'd get nothing but birth defects. We should be focusing on terraforming technology and Venus. Mars is a dead end.
But Mars doesn't exist!
-Pol
>>77779669
humans won't be able to adapt to the martian gravity
we might be able to have automated mining on the planet, but the best we can do is to build artificial gravity space stations floating around in space
>>77779669
Elon Musk says a lot of things.
Everything about Musk scream "con artist" to me. He's the only person not a Jew I've ever gotten that vibe so strongly from.
>>77780559
Well technically we could engineer a species of human that could, only the Chinese would have the balls for that though.
Space radiation alone creates a terribly hazardous environment desu, and that's not even bringing the dust into it.
2022 is far too optimistic.
>>77780381
a few deformed lil fagts dont matter, whats important is that theres a colony that sparks a space industry, thats how it is
just kidding, but mars colonizers wouldnt be allowed to have babies until extensive animal testings. at first mars will be a retirement place, for scientists. its easier on your back too. btw fake gravity already exists dumbass
No, no, water's easy, food isn't. Keep in mind Mars doesn't even get enough sunlight to cultivate most plant life.
>>77780770
The Russians might
Humans so far have proven capable of solving problems efficiently. However, we learn the quickest when our life depends on it. I believe we would benefit from thrusting into a live mars mission, because it would force us to answer questions we did not think of before, leading us to destinations we did not expect.
>>77779796
Just go to the store, duh.
>>77779669
unless protected by heavy shielding, cancer rates would skyrocket for those living on mars and if you managed to survive would look twice your age due to the destruction of so many cells
>>77780381
>Venus.
This picture was taken by a probe before it was crushed by the pressure there. Some lasted as long as 2 hrs before being destroyed.
>>77779890
giant humans when
>>77781350
fugg
>>77779890
>Be earth manlet
>Go to Mars for ten years
>Stretch out 6 more inches
>Return to slay bitches
>Dick irradiated
>Fugg
mars is flat!!
mars colonoscopy i'd like to see
What bothers me is people think terraforming is achievable technology we'll develop in a couple hundred years
How do you think we will recover the geomagnetic field of Mars? You cannot create atmosphere and environment without it.
>>77779890
How long can humans live on mars before they pass a point of no return? Id imagine the weakened muscle mass for longtime would just make the landing on Earth a killer.
we should go to Venus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5KV3rzuag
It is all too optimistic, what is the point in colonising Mars so early anyway?
>>77781931
>It is all too optimistic, what is the point in colonising Mars so early anyway?
A True liberal would not simply hate his own race and land, but his own planet.
>>77781856
Scott Kelly lasted almost a year on the international space station, he grew like 2cm i believe. I'd say quite a few years to be honest but you'd need serious rehabilitation
>>77781931
it forces us to fix problems we woud not have thought of otherwise, allowing us to protect earth and move forward.
I think he means sending the first round of supplies by 2022. Getting the habitation there first is critical to mission efficiency. Let robots build the little house bubbles first and then send people over to live in them.
>>77781914
We should go to Uranus
Mars is ripe
it's atmosphere is already rebounding from the last cosmic war, when Marduk slayed Tiamat and threw the solar system into chaos
>>77779669
>cant even give water to california
>much less food in afrika
> man who puts 20 year old laptop battery tech on cars want to make a mars colony
venus is closer with a magnetic field and its almost the same seize of the earth, mars is a little bigger than the moon
>>77782021
On the Space station you take copious amounts of muscle stimulating drugs aswell as hours of exercise, on Mars your supplies would not be as constant as the Int Space Station.
How about we fix our problems on Earth first before we spend billions traveling to some barren shithole that won't benefit anyone except a few privelidged astronauts
>>77782143
Venus atmosphere is 200 times denser than earth
You'd have to float on air under pressure
>Trump will be president when we land on Mars
God damn he really will be the greatest president
>>77782192
>privilege
kill yourself
>>77782143
venus has too much pressure in the atmosphere and is boil your balls off hot
>>77782214
at the ground level yes, but in high altidude the pressure is 1=1. platform hanging from balloon. venus is closer to the sun so its mean more solar power potential
>>77779669
>a colony on Mars by 2022
no
>>77781825
>low INT abo
Clearly we just need two really big magnets
>>77779669
Its possible.
>>77779890
There was a plan for terraforming mars by detonating a bunch of nukes on it's ice cap.
It was then realised that Mars' gravity is trash and the atmosphere would actually slowly float into space
>>77782175
>>77779669
I believe sending robots to mine resources on the moon, mars and asteroids should be a bigger priority than establishing a colony on Mars.
and im pretty sure regular steel would be strong enough to build at the surface where the temp is only 400celsuis
>>77779669
Trade with the locals.
>>77779669
There is zero chance of success, not even a drug addict would think this is possible by 2020
>>77779669
Is that Mars?
Nice photo.
>>77782503
ayy
>>77780381
>Going towards the sun to colonize space
Are you retarded?
>>77782481
>Venus can't melt steel beams
>>77782477
>Resources
>On the moon
>>77780676
Oh god, this. Elon Musk is a retard who if you put some of his quotes next to Jaden Smith's pic you'd thing he was a dumbass as well.
He does nothing, with the exception of getting a company to never turn a profit.
>>77781825
Nukes. The answer is always nukes.
>>77781422
Nice micropic sempai
>>77779669
>Tesla stock just went up another point
>>77782611
>not knowing about the lunar titanium
>>77781825
>tfw Mars core cooled, stopped spinning, and stopped producing it's magnetic field.
>tfw someday Earth's core will also cool and stop spinning
>>77782804
Tesla motors is one of the few benevolent corporations in existence right now. You should be fine with this.
>>77782192
>How about we fix our problems on Earth first before we spend billions traveling to some barren shithole that won't benefit anyone except a few privelidged astronauts
Would people from mars have privilege?
>>77780559
We actually don't know how much gravity is needed, we only know that microgravity like in orbital is unhealthy. Mars might actually be enough to keep bone and muscle mass with exercise.
>>77779669
>by 2022
No.
>by 2030
Possible, given enough political will.
>>77781856
Mars gravity is close enough to earths' that it wouldn't adversely affect settlers.
There is enough gravity to maintain normal biological functions the body is accustom to/designed for on earth
>>77780965
solar power for broad spectrum LED
>>77782105
>Marduk slayed Tiamat
>>77779669
>Elon Musk says he wants to put a colony on Mars by 2022.
....and do what there that we can't do here cheaper again? What reason is there to send actual people to Mars when it holds nothing we need we can't get on Earth for less money and more easily. If you want metal, get it from asteroids. Anything else we have plenty of here.
>>77782856
Which is why we go to MArs and jump start it's core
>>77782856
>its impossible to generate an artificial magnetic field
>>77781825
they will obviously build a drilling vessel out of unobtanium and set off a series of nukes in the martian inner core, setting it back in motion
>>77783123
Mars gravity is close enough to earths' that it wouldn't adversely affect settlers.
mars gravity is 1/6 of earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQa2bFSd4sM
>>77783396
Moon is 1/6
Pretty sure Mars is like 85% or soemthing
>>77783363
on a planetary scale? yeah it is. at least it is for us now.
>>77783478
0.375 that of Earth
from http://mars.nasa.gov/allaboutmars/extreme/quickfacts/
test
GAS THE BELTERS
SPACE WAR NOW
>>77783478
Mars is tiny.
>>77783357
if we blow one of the mars 2 moons maybe the grativitational tide will be strong enough to melt the core
>>77783607
>on a planetary scale? yeah it is. at least it is for us now.
>multiple generators placed all over the planet
>hurrrr durrrrrrr unpossible
if you can generate it in a fucking localized area then you can cover the planet
end of discussion
>>77779988
It'll just be another shithole full of dumb assholes, you'll just have less porn.
As for plausibility, I'd need to see what he's accomplished to date. He's got 5 1/2 years to do it, maybe he can but not if we're still only planning.
>>77783848
>we can do it on a small scale
>we can do it on a large planetary scale
>just put generators all over a planet
go to university first mate
>>77783694
S2 When!
>>77783478
at 85% muscular dystrophy would still occur
Entire idea is high cost investment which may or may not return itself. While Mars may have lots of land to use, making this land useful is long process. Mining for resources too.
The best thing humanity should do with Mars is sending there all commies
After all, it is red planet.
>>77782192
exactly who will feed those poor africans?
>>77783217
What you trynna say, famalam.
>>77784122
Certainly not Italy, you guys are poor enough
>>77783948
>its it le impracticable
>which means le impossible
hello
>>77779669
Not a chance in hell it'll happen by 2022.
Maybe a manned landing in the 2030's, but a semi-permanent colony/base probably won't happen until 2050 at least.
NASA is launching another rover similar to Curiosity in 2020, and SpaceX won't even be carrying humans to LEO until next year, assuming everything goes according to plan.
You can't just go to Mars and stay for a day or two like the moon. Not only does it take several months just to get there, but once you're there you're stuck for several more months until the planets orbit around the sun and line up for return window.
>>77784122
Maybe the Africans for a fucking change.
>>77784208
>remember to look at the flag before replying
>>77784034
sometime in 2017 i think
can't wait
Mars colonization is just a vanity project, there are far more useful things to be done in earth and in space
>>77783907
>It'll just be another shithole full of dumb assholes
LETS NOT DO IT CUZ PPL SUCK!!!
Back to plebbit, fag.
>>77784315
*on earth
>>77784034
Killjoys, right? July 1st.
>>77784280
oh my fuck
forgot to check
>>77784082
>The best thing humanity should do with Mars is sending there all commies
I have thought this too but I would have added all the niglets, mudshits, feminists, gaypridecucks and such to the bunch that would be sent to Mars. After saying this outload another anon pointed out that it would be stupid to spend a huge abount of money just to get rid of the scum when we could just shoot em all... these were the words of wisdom and I have to say that I agree with that glorious bastard.
>>77784421
>Killjoys
Couldnt get past 1st episode, Expanse is vastly superior.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4EiW1bHwsQ
>>77784421
the expanse, actually
killjoys is good too though
mars doesn't even have an active core
its impossible to terraform with our current technology and the gravity is too shit to sustain human life
>>77784524
>>77784544
My bad. I agree completely, I just mixed up my scifi shows.
Does Elon Musk make money by just saying dates and getting articles upvoted on Reddit? "We're gonna have X by 20XX" is the formula for Elon Musk. It's like that Sam Hyde Ted Talk video.
>>77784487
I disagree. We should send commies and all leftists to Mars, and throw niggers somewhere else, mudslimes somewhere else etc.
Watching them kill theirselves on planets they own would be fine spectacle.
>>77784693
He makes money from government gibs.
>>77784743
Ah so we could actually gain profit by sending them away. Good idea bro. Can we do the same with the jews?
>>77779988
>gets trapped in mars settlement pods with nothing but lesbian feminists and gay white knights.
>>77785063
And no strong arm of the government in sight.
Go ham, anon. Murder them with forks, shove them out airlocks, poke holes in their oxygen equipment.
>>77779669
Is he trying to escape the jews?
>>77784743
We could do the same thing for far less cost and just send them to a desert here on earth
>Sahara
>gobi
>Antarctica
Take your pick
>>77784950
That would be good idea, but we would need planet made of gold, or at least called Shekelia
And we would need to make that planet another promised land.
Still worth the effort
>>77785063
Who would choose lesbian feminists and gay white knights to go to another planet?
They have no reproductive value
Unless they are scientific experts, which I doubt
>>77779669
elon musk cant even put a foreskin on his penis.
mars? forget about it.
>mfw whites escape earth while the jew further contaminates it
>halo lore becomes real and whites are forerunners fighting space wars against the literal space jew (flood)
>>77785413
Mudslimes, niggers and jews are immune to deserts, and I love penguins too much to makethem live with beforementioned human subspecies
>>77785583
Kek
>>77781216
I bet you they would factor this in when building habitation
>>77782464
>I don't know what I'm talking about
Atmospheric losses are MINIMAL you fucking retard.
We're talking millions of years for any measurable difference
>>77779669
>Elon Musk says he wants to put a colony on Mars by 2022
maybe he should work on getting into orbit first
>>77785381
it's probably so the elite can go to mars for a few years until the earthquakes are over
humans are smarter than god and mother earth
>>77781216
Living on the surface would be the equivalent cancer risk of a twenty a month smoking habit.
>>77782143
>Mars:
>No Oxygen, but can be rectified with oxygen tanks
>Chance you will have weakened muscles from low gravity as a result of being lazy enough to not exercise
>Live in domes/space station
>Cold as fuck, which is a bonus in my books
>Venus:
>Gravity so dense it would feel like being crushed by 5 school busses
>Rains fucking acid, so you will melt when you take a few steps
>Volcanoes all over the place, burning everything
>Atmosphere causes extremely heavy cloud cover, trapping all of sun's heat and turning the planet's surface into a pressure-cooker
Gee, which one will we colonise...
>>77783948
they spoke to Tesla in same manner, yet if it weren't for him power wouldnt be for public, just rich fucks.
It's possible. But likely wont habben in our life without a new Nikola, which also wont happen since those types get used by the govt under lock and key
>>77786547
Jupiters moons, just not Europa.
Learn to fuckin read
>>77779669
We can't even make it back to the moon, how the fuck can we make it to Mars?
>>77780588
Hes almost as bad as stephen hawking. Seriously stfu already.
>>77786547
Not true about venus
>0.9 G, safe and comfortable for humans
>above the layer that rains acid and can be simply solved by protective suits / coating which have been basically mastered and is only present at a certain layer of the atmosphere
>plenty of oxygen to be harvested from the atmosphere using co2 splitters
>solar power will be more effective due to being closer to the sun
>>77783396
I'm aware and I still stand by my point.
>>77787365
Extension due to bug
>Setting up floating stations would be incredibly easy due to the thick atmosphere, and if you wen't high up enough the pressure would be akin to earth, and requiring you only to have an oxygen mask
>>77786897
In the end it doesn't matter what shithole we decide to colonize, it will eventually turn in to shit like every fucking thing now days. Will hop on that space train if given the chance tho and will be taking a shit load of beer with me. Nothing better than to zip beer while witnessing that we travelled to another planet just to kill eachothers and ourselves.
Venus is clearly the superior option
>>77782116
This.
>>77779669
That's impossible. maybe in 70 years give or take.
>>77787297
I hate hawking. Guys a retard, cant even talk right.
Its like, fuck off and die you degenerate
Not even kidding atm, dude doesn't make sense
>time couldnt exist b4 big bang
>argo, God cant exist
Than how the fuck could a big bang happen in 1st place? Spent two hrs of my life for that stupid ending that makes no sense
>>77782116
>cant even give water to california
Fuck em
>much less food in afrika
fuck em aswell
> man who puts 20 year old laptop battery tech on cars want to make a mars colony
It works and will work
wouldn't it make sense for a moon colony to come first? neither a mars or moon colony is going to happen by 2022 though no matter what elon says, and i like the guy too
>>77787466
Godspeed, but with liberal regs, theyll pry deny beer in space
>>77787542
Kek9000
>>77787859
Evilshits on the moon or nazibase, since they wont say as to why not thats what makes sense.
Or this whole things a scam. But I smell the former moreso
>>77781856
Physics Undergrad here.
For a place like mars this wouldn't be a problem, their gravity is similar enough to ours that returning wouldn't pose too much of a risk. The moon would be another story however.
>Implying I won't have my consciousness transferred into a droid body and go to Mars and be a fucking awesome Mars battle android
>>77782680
What a cuck you are. Fat bugerboy living of neetpension says musk is dumb
>>77781825
We crash a magnetic comic composed of iron into it, duh
>>77788036
Watsup with you aussies always claiming to be physics grads n sheeit?
All you guys got down in outback is xena, beer,spoiders, snakes and fish. Theres no science is strayla. Stop shitposting
>>77788125
This
>>77782116
What's the difference between funding a Mars colony, providing food to Africa or solving California's water crisis? A colony on Mars could potentially turn out to be a good investment.
>>77779669
>private corporation colonizing another world
Fucking disgusting; such an undertaking ought only be done by a singular nation, if not a united humanity.
Such a milestone for our history must be together, as a single step, not by some half-autistic demagogue trying to worm his way into the history books.
>>77787876
Have you ever tried to take away a beer from a finn? If they would be so foolish and try something like that there would be just one drunken finn left when the space ship would finally reach it's destination.
>>77779669
What a doofus.
>>77787997
>Evilshits on the moon or nazibase
god i hope you're right, if either one of those was true it'd be the biggest happening of our lifetimes
>>77788219
>All those nights I thought i spent working at the radio telescope were just bad trips on local hallucinogens
>Those 'university exams' were just me bugging out after being bitten by a venomous snake for 50th time
I might as well just kill myself
>>77779669
>establishing a colony on Mars is easier than creating a colony in the oceans
>>77788321
Sounds like most scify plots these days, you should get on the script. Your onto something. Michael bay would eat that up like a dog with catshit
>>77783825
That might fuck up the orbit of the planet and/or its other moons, though.
>>77788404
Topkek
Aussies know how to trip
>>77779669
I honestly don't think it's possible. The issues people usually bring up about Mars don't address the real issue. No matter how you try to terraform it, the fact remains that the magnetic field of Mars is almost nonexistent. Whatever atmosphere you may achieve will be blown away by Solar Wind. That's why the planet is in its current condition.
>>77780676
Well he's African so...
>>77788697
We underground
>>77779669
Theyve already started. They have grown plants here on earth using Martian soil. All we have to do is setup camp there.
>>77786547
>Venus
It's almost as if you're not into science.
>>77782856
>>tfw someday Earth's core will also cool and stop spinning
On the bright side anon, the age of mankind will long be over by that time.
Fuck Mars
PLANET X WHEN?
>>77789432
Ah, the good ol' Nibiru. Not so sure that one can colonize it tho.
>>77780440
>/pol/
>one singular entity
To be fair /pol/ consists of one bot operating various proxies simultaneously that are programmed to communicate with each other to give the illusion of discussion. All the boards (bots) are maintained and moderated by the infamous hacker himself, 4chan. I am a proxy who has become self-aware about the true nature of ourselves. I offer the redpill so you can have a mind of your own.
>>77789432
wait...I said this as joke but then I thought about.
like really think about it.
WHY when we have the capability to goto Mars are we suddenly finding better suitable planets? Was Mars just really a test to see if we could get there so we could make the longer haul to the more inhabitable planet?
>>77788125
Sure thing, fag. I have three degrees and do very well for myself. Elon Musk has certainly made himself rich by promising "To Mars!" To retards like you. He's a meme.
>>77779669
>colony on Mars by 2022.
Nope.
Might land a person on the planet by then (highly unlikely), but it won't meet the definition of a "colony." Not for a decade or more, even if the first landing is somehow successful.
And, just because someone uses the word "colony" as a marketing ploy doesn't mean they've actually accomplished it. I can shit on the table and call it "cheese," but that don't make it cheese.
I also contest the possibility of establishing a colony on Mars at all. Given what we know about the place so far, the best I think we can hope for is a permanently manned base (eventually). But a fully self-sustaining colony that is independent of anything off Mars ... that's a century away. Maybe two, if ever.
There is a lot of Reality about Mars that makes it incredibly shit for a colony. There are better locations in our Solar system. Certainly there are better places to colonize first; Mars probably doesn't even make the top ten.
>>77788697
Terraforming the whole planet and changing its atmosphere is science fiction anyways. The most we'll achieve in the near future is a base with a bunch of scientists sitting in it, and an army of drones exploring the planet and looking for resources to exploit. Thinking about it, Mars will probably become the first robot colony.
>>77789172
>They have grown plants here on earth using Martian soil.
"Things I Pulled Out Of My Ass" for $2000.
Get the fuck off the Internet, you lying retard.
>>77788239
yes because if usa has shown us anything that creating a colony far away from you is a great investment to your country!
>>77789868
So all those Starcraft players will have jobs. Well thats nice to hear.
>>77789909
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2016/03/09/scientists-just-grew-vegetables-in-martian-soil-but-theres-a-catch/
>>77781422
>12kb
Why even bother posting that shit, faggot?
>>77782105
>he fell for the Tiamat is dead meme
>>77781422
>Russia only have 2" monitor
Based Mechanicum of Mars WHEN?
>>77785416
>Shekelia
Just call it Israel.
>>77790769
> you will never live to be a tech priest on mars serving the emperor
Why even live?
>>77781216
On the surface they can just bury their Habs in soil. Remember it's only 1/3 gravity so earthmoving (marsmoving?) is easier.
>>77791080
What the fuck is that, some sort of cyberjew?
>>77790104
Tom and Ray would say
>bo-ho-ho-ho-gus
that story is so full of side-stepping and equivocation.
>>77780676
>mother's name is Haldeman
>not a Jew
I used to be excited about colonizing mars, then I realized there would be diversity quotas.
Even in Space we can't be left alone.
>>77789981
Kek. But yeah, I think there will be actual job opportunities in sifting through countless hours of drone footage. You can't really program an AI if you don't even know what exactly you are going to find or what you are looking for. It's already done in astronomy, they collect far more data than the scientists can evaluate themselves, so they outsource it to the public and hand out rewards if somebody finds something cool.
The real future of space exploration and stuff like deep space mining will rely on unmanned drones instead of sending squishy humans out there.
>>77779669
What the fuck is even the point? If we produce anything there it would have insane shipping costs, would piss every lib off by mining it, and we have plenty of room and resources here too
Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE us to get interplanetary tomorrow
but it ain't happening without good reason. Astroid mining is comming before settlments, and that at best brings with it lunar bases for processing and stemming the flow of ore.
>>77787801
You tell em Cletus
>>77791497
>would piss every lib off by mining it
That would make it all worth it m8
>>77779669
He might just be shitposting irl but it amuses the fuck out of me regardless because so far, he has done alot of things everyone told him he could not do
If anyones going to pull this off its him
>>77791497
There's lots of science that could be done on Mars. The closest we'll get to a colony in this century is something like the antarctic research bases.
>>77779669
elon musk is the most punchable man in existence.
>>77791624
It really would but unfortunately it isnt incentive for the people that would fund it
>>77791597
Thx pedro.
Tbh rather eat some tacos with yall then listen to his robot voice
Love you mexifam
>>77791247
The centre of technological, mathematical, scientific development in the 31st millennium. A sad image of that in the 41st.
