Give me a different reason than "muhhh sovereignty and oppressive Brussels".
>>77727770
what?
democracy isn't a good reason?
>>77727851
No, it ain't. Nobody cares about darn democracy. It is always the same folks in charge anyway.
Repeat thread is repeated.
>"muhhh sovereignty and oppressive Brussels".
Those are two very good reasons.
The EUs economy is not growing.
The regulations on corporations prevent competition.
Our fishing industry is suffering.
The migrant crisis has been encouraged by the EU.
Freedom of movement is not sustainable (too many from poorer European countries want to move to the UK).
>>77728018
>Nobody cares about darn democracy. It is always the same folks in charge anyway.
Summed up the EU perfectly in that sentence OP, (You) raging faggot
https://youtu.be/UTMxfAkxfQ0
I'm looking forward to it because it's gonna crush the EU, Russia's natural enemy
>>77727770
The EU is pretty shit. I would prefer it to be reformed than for britain to leave.
Britain leaving is probably wise because the EU will probably unravel in the next decade anyhow.
Brits also don't want turkroaches flooding in.
>>77727770
we like when things are more decentralized
>>77727770
One reason for brexit is over the past 40
Years the EW (EU) has been disregarding their citizenry and the protestations to laws and regulations that have been enacted against recorded regional votes.
The EU ha decimated the fishing industry in the UK allowing other countries to fish England's native waters
And bankrupt an entire industry
>>77728355
This.
This is why i'd prefer they go for reform. The leave campaign has good reasons for wanting to leave, but doesn't talk much about the merits of a european union in the first place.
I feel like if we're not careful the next european union will be a union of islamic states.
>>77727770
Because it will crash the EU.
>>77728650
That's what the current EU is. Genocide is the goal.
>>77727770
Dude, Brussels is Flanders.
Fuck Flanders.
>>77727770
Because I know the UK doesn't have the gurs to go through with it, but I want to see them try anyway.
>>77727770
#Brexit
>>77728223
The EU economy has been growing faster than in the UK in the last 15 years.
The regulation for the first time allows for actual competition without state subsidies and protectionism.
Fishing is dead everywhere, the sea is pretty much dead from overfishing. The EU tries to protect the sea in order to get some fish back.
The migrant crisis was caused by Greece and no other country. Greece could have kept migrants on the islands as it does now.
Sure freedom of movement is sustainable. Germany gets 5 times more EU migrants than the UK. America has similar internal migration.
>>77727770
CIA superstate designed to culturally and ethnically genocide Europeans
>>77728018
>Nobody cares about darn democracy.
>t. Germany
There's your reason to vote Brexit.
>>77727770
eu dou graça a deus que a helena filha da puta tá dando a bunda dela pra um retardado que usa esse cabelo de putão de big brother. já que essa merdinha adora futebol, ela que engula a bola dos outros. essa retardada pode aparecer aqui lembrando quem ela é, que eu só vou lembrar porque eu odeio essa filha da puta arrogrante.
because I hate the EU and Britain leaving might destroy it
>>77729259
No there is not. Democracy is there so the gov diesn't all kill us. There is enough democracy in the EU for them to not kill us.
>>77729340
why do you hate the EU?
>>77727770
sure, you fucking idiots will try and create a superstate but because you're utterly incompetent when it comes to leading empires it will collapse and america will have to bail us out, again. or more likely china will, which will be far worse.
>>77728986
The same waters are still being fished. They haven't stopped fishing they've just changed who gets the profit who gets the tax revenue, which rolls into, who has the contracts to fuel stock and repair the vessels. The companies that have had to thin their fleets are having to have fire sales, and the industry is being handed over to Non English fisherman. Fishing In English waters,
>>77729374
>Democracy is there so the gov diesn't all kill us.
Ist das Köder?
>>77727770
Have you ever wondered why your local government is local? The alternative would be to have your local government not be local but have it placed far far away but that doesn't make any sense does it? Local government is local for a reason, it is local so it has the best knowledge of the area it's governing and so that the citizens and the government employees can have a direct relationship.
Now imagine you were an island but some idiot decided to place some of the government of the island outside the island. Sure you'd want them back so they could best serve the citizens they have pledged to.
I don't like fucking euroniggers.
the brexit is just a cheap outcry of attention, like a 16 year old girl showing off her tits. basically a deficit in self confidence.
brits are foken faggets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XHkdDGV2Qk [Embed]
@3:40
he was right
but, it's too late now
>>77728986
>The regulation for the first time allows for actual competition without state subsidies and protectionism.
Regulations are barriers to trade. The European single market allows for increased competitiveness and increased trade; EU regulations stifle both.
>>77729460
because they encourage their members to engage in unfair economic practices against us and then use their political weight to deprive us of justice in the WTO courts
>>77729674
nope, what othe reason is there for democracy? A benevolent dictator would be more efficient and likely bette for the economy. But a mad dictator would kill us all.
>>77729903
This is wrong. You have no idea how little the EU market was free and internally competitive just 20-25 years ago.
>>77728355
If the EU crashes Germany will shake of it's cuckedness and build up an army again. Don't know if you like that better. Your trading position with the EU is congruent with the trading position of Germany anyways.
>>77730802
> shake of it's cuckedness
Impossible. It's the equivalent of Japan becoming Samurai again after decades of Anime and Hentai porn.
It's a complex issue, to be certain. And there are benefits and costs to leaving. Too much for a /pol/ post.
But, if you are a serious about learning about the issue, I recommend a series of debates between Nigel Farage and Nick Cleg. They do a good job of making the case for each side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkhtn_NtDZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd9rsmD4HiM
>>77730246
>EU market was free and internally competitive just 20-25 years ago.
"Was" free? Did it suddenly have regulations imposed on it these last few years?
>>77728650
We already tried reform. There was a massive show of David Cameron trying to achieve tiny, minuscule reforms and failing miserably earlier this year.
>>77727770
You Germans are cocksucking niggers. That's enough reason.
And fuck you for always making these threads
>>77731216
There were massive national regulations which prevented free competition. Read up on this.
>>77730246
>This is wrong. You have no idea how little the EU market was free and internally competitive just 20-25 years ago.
For the internal trade yes. But we trade more and more outside of the EU which would be the domain of the WTO or just some bilateral agreements.
The common market actually tries to seal us off from competition in developing countries. It does so by """regulating""" products in a way that they only get approved if they come from inside the EU (Gurkenkrümmung was something like that iirc).
>>77727770
Wow, a German not understanding or respecting another nations sovereignty.
You don't see that everyday.
>>77728986
Nope. The EU is the second slowest growing economic continent on the Earth; the first being Antarctica. Unemployment is at 17% and RISING across the Euro zone. The 'might economic power' of the EU has barely managed to get trade deals with Mexico, Columbia and South Korea and by their own figures only accounts for a 2% rise in GDP while the regulations and restrictions are thought to bring down GDP by 4 to 6%.
>>77727770
because some men just want to watch the world burn
>>77727770
Fuck off Germany.
You're the only country benefiting from it.
You and the poor shitholes like Greece that get free money, that is.
Well, it's destroying you too, actually.
>>77728986
What about the trade restrictions EU has put against countries outside EU?
Sure Germany doesn't give a fuck, they are surrounded by EU members, they don't benefit as much from trade that is done between EU members and the rest of the world. Meanwhile the countries on the outer border of EU would very much benefit from more trade with the outside world. Of course fatcat Germany sitting in the middle, siphoning the wealth does not want Brits to be able to trade effectively with outside world, it might mean they'd trade less wit the Germans themselves.
>>77731424
provide a source or direction to go to.
Why would the EU do this to itself?
>>77727770
>What's 2+2, /pol/?
>And don't give me "muh 4"
>>77731575
The EU didn't exist until Mastrucht 23 years ago. It was not the EU who did it to itself but the states which tried to protect the electricity market, the steel markets, the service markets, the consulting markets, the machining markets, the telecoms markets etc.
It hurts to see my dad getting cucked. I want him to become a sovereign world power again.
>>77727770
It's drawing a line in the sand, it's telling the EU bureaucrats no more, not on my watch.
It's about not just about the people of England, everywhere in Europe people are getting sick of being told what to do. Britain could cause a chain reaction, Nexit after this I hope.
Brexit is just another card in the antiglobalism house of cards.
It ultimately doesn't matter because if it ever build to high it will be blown out.
You can't oppose the zeitgeist, globalism empowers.
If you abandon it the chinks will pick up the pieces.
They would simply take over the world the moment the west retreats behind it's borders.
You can't hide from the world.
>>77731805
How is the UK ever to be a world power ever again???
>>77727770
Becouse fuck invaders. Thats why.
>>77727770
those are both valid reasons, I so hope they leave and start the beginning of the end of the clusterfuck that is the EU
Schengen has all but fallen and once Maastricht kicks the bucket, there'll be no reason for anyone to stay for that day can't come soon enough
>>77731912
What EU bureaucrats, they are all voted into their offices.
>>77732231
This information on the truth about the EU read the statistics.
>>77731912
>It's drawing a line in the sand, it's telling the EU bureaucrats no more, not on my watch.
Damn right, Käskopp. I'm counting on you, Denmark and maybe the Czech next.
>>77731184
>Impossible.
Watch and learn, Canada. Watch and learn.
>>77732231
there are tens of thousands of them, none of them pays into their national monopolies in healthcare and pension systems OR any income tax, not to mention all other considerable perks, so who do you think their loyalties lie with?
>>77731477
Well then, the EU's growth is higher than Antarctica and the UK.
>>77732404
Who? What tens of thousands? What are you even talking about?
>>77732571
you do know there are a bunch of languages and millions of pages to be translated into erry day?
you are aware that there are a bunch of secretaries, advisors, technical staff etc working directly for EU in Brussels and Strassbourg?
the answer is 55.000 freeloaders making more than you ever will be
http://europa.eu/about-eu/facts-figures/administration/index_en.htm
>>77731933
>You can't oppose the zeitgeist, globalism empowers.
Globalisation is on it's back foot actually. The percentage of world wide growth that is attributed to international trade is shrinking. More and more growth now is achieved not by global trade but by national growth.
>You can't hide from the world.
True. Japan couldn't because the US used their Gunboat policy to force them open.
>They would simply take over the world the moment the west retreats behind it's borders.
But we can be behind our borders whoever we like. We don't need to have it "their way". The chinks can't do anything except for buying up our companies.
>>77727770
It's quite simple. It's because ""muhhh sovereignty and oppressive Brussels".
>>77727770
because we're fed up with the 4th reich
>>77732571
>Who? What tens of thousands?
You don't know a lot about the EU, that you like so much, do you?
I haven't heard a single argument backed by some kind of minimal research that shows we will be better off leaving.
I don't even like the EU, but if you can't show that it's going to be better if we leave then what's the point.
People talk a lot about muh world wide trade but give me some figures then on what we are currently trading, what is being held back by the eu and how much we can gain by leaving and does the gain offset what is lost from leaving the EU. Napkin numbers would suffice for now.
>>77733322
muh freedom
muh rights
when will these stupid people just do what their government in another country fucking tell them to?
>>77728355
hush now
looks like we've converted another eurocuck into an eurosceptic
good job brethren
