>Healthcare is still expensive as fuck
>College is still expensive as fuck
>Jobs gone overseas
>Minimum wage is still 7$.
What the fuck? WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK? Whatever happened to 'Change' and 'Yes we can'? What notable thing has he done besides shitting up the middle east?
>inb4 job growth
Fuck off. There are 20 other things that make life extremely shitty for most Americans, and Obama didn't even touch that. Now we got that evil bitch Shillary to look forward to, another 8 MORE years of nothing and you better believe that you and I are going to bail out Wall Street again when it happens. Goddamn our government.
i remember one of the promises i based my vote on was his idea for a college graduate hiring program. something like "we'll sponsor new hires n shit". didnt pan out well
He helped race relations go from strained to the worst they've been since the 60s?
What a joke
>>77659258
>soldiers still in Iraq and Afghanistan
>Gitmo still open
What a complete fucking joke.
we got chomes during his rule tho
>>77659580
5 shekels have been deposited to your account.
>>77659368
>>77659426
>>77659474
Moore just about sums it up for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMuuaO-YLKE
Straight talk, I'm a liberal and voted for Obama both times but I agree with a lot of stuff already said in this thread.
I doubt it would have been any better under Romney or the Depends Undergarment Spokesman before him, though.
>>77659258
oh gee a career politician didnt live up to his promises what a surprise. surely hillary will be different
>>77659258
We're all niggers now. Congratulation, senpai
he gave us Trump
>>77659258
I dont need to pay for health insurance for another 3 years so thanks obama for letting me be a neet for a little bit longer.
>>77659827
Trump is a conman. His whole life is built around selling a turd to people and calling it caviar.
Hillary might not be different, but she at least knows what she's doing; that's far better than an inept conman with no political experience.
>>77659959
lmao, I needed this.
>>77659827
I mean considering Obama got jack shit done, I kinda think with Bill Clinton, things will get somewhat cheaper but holy shit, that's not good enough. I don't think Americans like working 50 hours a week to afford basic things.
>>77659821
Same, he won't get remembered for anything other than being black.
>>77660120
>but she at least knows what she's doing
>>77659258
Is it just a coincidence that everything in America got really fucked up when a nigger took office?
>>77660120
Is it your first day here? You have a lot to learn.
>>77660400
Things went downhill while Bush was in office. In fact, I think a lot of people are voting Clinton this election because they want to recapture some of the good of the 90's when her husband ran things.
Reminder that white folks' greed drives a world in need
>>77660120
gas yourself desu
>>77659258
>>Minimum wage is still 7$.
it has been going up due to local governments increasing it.
Did a great job of making us look weak though
>>77659258
Obongo, the okie doke stuttering fool.
>>77659258
How come Japan is so successful, wtf policies do they have we don't??
>>77660883
>Bill Clinton
>good
top kek m8
>>77660883
Great, someone is fine tuning an AI with a sense of humor on /pol/
Bill Clinton caused the dot com bubble
>>77660883
Like NAFTA and basically causing the financial crisis?
>>77660120
hillary gave us every war. she sold weapons to countries in exchange for donations to the Clinton Foundation. she knows what she's doing, and that's exactly why she must be stopped
trump went right up to the neocons faces and told them their wars were a waste of money and made things worse than before. he BTFO all the neocons in the GOP. now he needs to BTFO the neocon that has the DNC nomination.
>>77659258
You forgot to add war.
shovel ready jobs nigga
>>77660120
>Trump is a conman.
Welcome. I was where you are a few months ago. The man Trump really is still amazes me sometimes. I encourage you to try taking a look at him from other angles.
>>77659258
Well there are more jobs now. The economy tanked under Obama which led to mass unemployment which led to mass idiots accepting a fraction of what they are worth just to get a fucking job. Horray
>yfw Obama will be remembered for exactly 2 things
>First black president
>and the president before Trump
>>77659258
You really bought his Hope and Change shit?
Christ.
It was all true.
It just wasn't specified that "yes we can" [go golfing and on fabulous vacations and live in luxury at taxpayer expense forever while fucking their cracka ass cracka country over]
>>77659821
>>77664828
Here's a good place to start
https://youtu.be/tqm4EzilgHU
>>77661026
God he is so gay...
It would've been worth it if he just did single payer health care. I don't care that it's socialism, the current system is all the worst, most corrupt parts of socialism and capitalism combined. At least that way there would be a chain of command and people to hold accountable. But he hardly even fought for it. Stupid. If you run on something like that I expect you to go down in flames fighting for it.
>>77659258
Forgot to add
>racial tensions at all time high
>still getting fucked in the middle east
>>77659754
That post was worth more than five shekels.
>Micheal Moore
I've seen his latest movie, it's cringe America hate as fuck.
>>77659258
Obama's imported about 10 million Muslims.
>Obamacare is expensive
I pay $95 a month for healthcare+dental and can go in whenever the fuck I want. I went with a 4k major medical deductible so that's all I'm on the hook for if something serious happens. I'm single and made 68k this year straight out of college. Make a 100k and I'd pay 2% of that for complete coverage.
>>77666427
Even if you like Obama, that statement is full JUST.
Whats most amazing is that people support hillary who is a direct continuation of obama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92lesEfuE8
He BTFO whites.
>>77659258
People out way too much emphasis on the president
>both dems and republicans voted for the Iraq war
>both dems and republicans voted for bank bail out
>in the past 8 years republicans have threatened government shutdown
Yea Obama sucks and hasn't accomplished anything but you cucks and every other cuck I meet has nothing to say about congress, only the president
>>77666480
So obamacare successfully reduced the price of health insurance for high income earners.
Good job.
>>77659258
>Goddamn our government.
So do something about it
>>77666613
All Trump has to do is not let in Muslims, and he'll be a better president than Obama.
>>77666613
We all realize both parties suck which is entirely the reason we push Trump so hard because he isn't on corporate payrolls. Doesn't mean we can't vent at Obama for being a useless fucking asshole for 8 years.
>>77659258
Made US education somehow worse with common core.
>>77666739
MUSLIMS ARE FUCKING SAVAGES AND HAVE NO PLACE AMONG AMERICANS OR EUROPEANS
OBAMA AND HILLARY ARE TRAITORS TO US ALL
>>77660883
You get. BUSH term 1 actually did a shit tonn of things. If he had passed he social security reform it would have been an epic term. However, literally nothing has been accomplished by our government in 12 years.
Interesting that the collapse of society seems to coincide with the rise of broadband Internet.
8 YEARS OF MUSLIMS SLAUGHTERING AND RAPING THEIR WAY ACROSS EUROPE AND AMERICA
>>77666634
But the % rates are misleading. Rich people are still putting in more money into the system each month. Hardly the Socialism that Fox News tells everyone.
>>77664828
>The man Trump really is
...Is a leftist cuck. It's amazing how quick this fucker 180'd. Just 8 years ago he was endorsing Obama, donating to the Democratic Party, and speaking out passionately in favor of Obamacare. Now you shitwits buy his ridiculous Stephen Colbert act hook, line, and sinker.
>>77666760
But even trump won't be able to do shit, our government has checks and balances for a reason, there are republicans in congress who have already said they won't support trump, you think those republicans and democrats will pass anything trump wants?
>>77660883
I'm pretty sure you mean "the good spirit of the 90s that was made possible by Reagan's actions"
>>77659258
It was "change we can believe in"
You can still believe in it. You're welcome.
>8 Years of Nothing
he strengthened globalism tenfold
WAKE UP
>>77667084
He won't make a second coming but he can at least get the wall started and push muslims out. Already more than Obama did in 8 years.
>>77667037
To be the Devil's Advocate, Bill Clinton, back when Trump was friends with him, was drastically more conservative than Paul Ryan, Dubya, etc. The only things that would keep Bill Clinton (the prez, not the current man) from being an ideal republican was his gun control nonsense (though Reagan was a hard core gun grabber) and his trade nonsense (which most GOPe support).
>>77667084
If you get a GOP POTUS
A GOP majority Congress
And a right-leaning SCOTUS
GREAT SHIT WILL GET DONE NO MATTER WHAT
All this could and should happen in 2016/17
>>77666480
I have pretty good healthcare too as well as a good job. I don't know what the fuck everyone on here for work but I'm assuming mostly underage and NEETS. Go outside you lazy autists. Your life is what you make it. Btw I only attended CC because University is a scam. Best choice ever. I'm not in debt except or my car and I have a better career and pension than all my friends except one who is a pharmacist. But he's in tons of debt as well. (Go figure)
>>77659258
>Americans thinking the the economy can change to any noticeable degree in 4-8 years
>Americans thinking the president can pass legislations
He can only reject them. He doesn't even have a vote. True, he's the single most powerful person but Congress does everything.
good thing we had a republican congress up his ass preventing from implementing any higher level of racial revenge shit. checks and balances ftw.
>>77667453
Obama had total control of both house and congress for two years from 2009 to 2011.
>>77660120
>at least knows what she's doing
>>77667602
A supermajority too. There's literally no excuse; the democrats could have done whatever they wanted.
>>77664828
You've been swayed by seeing people agree with him. His background and experience are still the same. He's a businessman who dealt in real estate and branding everything from steaks to bottled water. But he now qualifies to run as president despite having no political experience.
Although he managed to convince so many people otherwise, maybe he's politican material after all.
>>77665518
Also, laxt black president
>>77666900
tbqh w/regards to your pic i've seen lots of mexican cartels holding severed heads
>>77667277
Congress would have complete control of the wall, there is nothing trump could do about that
Surprisingly enough it was Obama unilateral immigration plan that could set a precedent to allow trump to act solely on a Muslim ban
>>77667369
But really man, that isn't going to happen, democrats do historically well in congressional elections during a presidential election cycle
>>77659258
What happened? Literally the most obstructionist congress since the civil war. This was their plan from the get-go. Since rural dumbfucks are over-represented in this country, we're fucked.
>>77659258
It was a lie and most American ate it up, so fucking stupid. Oprah endorsed him, how can he be a bad guy?.
>Its 2116
>Jose Mohammed Smith is in history class
>Reading about Barrack Obama
>"First and last black President"
>>77659258
No one ever mentions Cash for Clunkers or American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009
He even admitted there were no "shovel ready jobs"
>>77667413
NEATs actually get the best deal since they don't have to pay shit to be covered.
For everyone else, there is a minimum dollar amount required for coverage. On average the middle class pays a slightly higher percentage of their total income, but not nearly as much money as the upper class. Budget to have your family covered, no middle class worker is unable to afford Obamacare. I can't speak for small business having to cover employees though.
>>77667602
>>77667640
You mean his party had control of both Houses. Laws take time to make. You can't just pass as many as you want as soon as you have the majority. And for 1/4 of the time.
>>77667681
The moral character, intelligence and ethics concern me more than experience. I dont want a politician. What qualifies him is his courage in the face of globalism and our decaying country. Trump knows how to delegate. He will have the best advisors in the world. I trust his judgement, with that. Put away your stale Hitler meme.
>>77667640
They did, Obamacare and the stimulus package were both passed during that time. healthcare reform would have never been possible without the majority, however there are more blue dog democrats in congress than rinos
>>77667779
he's supposed to work with the government and not be such an arrogant nigger. and now his legacy is caca.
>>77667681
He is the first , we are entering a turbulent time. The stick of white grievance has been laying on the ground for the last 50 years. He may not be able to carry that stick, but someone else will come and pick it up after he is gone. The world is fucked.
>>77667915
Two years with a supermajority obviously if he wanted something he could get it. Problem is he kept pushing stupid shit nobody wanted. Presidents have made wonders happen far quicker in the past with that kind of power.
>>77659258
What's most incredible is that people STILL think he is a good President. My brother, who I would have never before considered politically retarded just told me the other day "He'll be remembered as one of the better Presidents we had, top ten even." For fucking what I said, and he couldn't give me a straight answer.
I asked about the debt
I asked about health premiums climbing through the roof
I asked about labor participation rates being as low as they were in the 70s
I asked about Libya, Syria, ISIS, and his continued bombing of Afghanistan/Iraq with double tap drone strikes.
I asked about tuition increasing nearly three fold (and climbing) before he entered office
I asked about "Fast and Furious"
I asked about his failure to close Guantanamo
I asked about the NSA and his illegal wire-tapping of almost everyone phone in the US and foreign phones as well
And basically he just shrugged and blamed Congress and the Courts.
Obama is Carter 2.0, we need a Reagan and fast.
>>77660120
>she at least knows what she's doing
>>77667905
This is factually wrong. To get actual health insurance neets pay the most. My health insurance is 300 a month which is absurd.
Medicare exists but it is not health insurance, my cost should be around 150.
Obamacare is a total failure for most people, they are just jewed into signing up for expanded medicare, not health insurance.
>>77660027
/thread
>>77667905
The only thing "cheap" about it is that I make so little I'm excluded from the requirements. Oh boy, I sure feel privileged that I'm not mandated at force of fines to have expensive government health insurance. I love being destitute.
>>77667976
>Obamacare and the stimulus package were both passed during that time
Yeah what a lame track record.
>>77667905
My insurance did go up but only to cover kids and a wife. Luckily I'm single with a gf and she has her own coverage. IMHO kids really fuck up your income. I don't see the point I having them unless you want your shitty genes passed on.
>>77668359
I mentioned nothing about effectiveness you just said he passed nothing, the dems passed the 2 biggest things they wanted during that time
>>77668433
>you just said he passed nothing
No, I didn't.
>>77662370
Nice catch
>>77659827
>career politician
He didn't even finish a term
>>77668479
Well then you're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know...
>>77668189
Not in California. People under 20k pay a dollar for bare bones coverage. Decent plans cost them about $20-$30/month.
$300 a month? He's most likely a higher risk client or has had a history of medical issues. He's expected to use the system more, so he pays more. Unless you're making an extremely comfortable income, nobody in good health is paying that much.
>>77667967
Except businessmen are the same as politicans. They mislead, persuade and stretch the truth to the public as much as possible without outright lying. A businessman does it for profit, a politican does it for votes.
And what proof do you have that Trump is an ethical man? If it were someone like Buffett who regularly sponsors charity events, lives a frugal life and gave 99% of his wealth to charity at death, sure. But he buys 50 pound gourmet cakes for weddings and imports his wives.
Here's a tip: there is nothing wrong with America. By any objective standard like economic growth, decreasing crime rates or scientific progress the US is doing fine. Politicans try to convince you the other party is going to burn the US to the ground because saying that everything is fine won't get them votes.
>>77668037
The world is not fucked. You want it to be fucked because you're bored. You want to think it's happening because it'll be interesting. But unfortunately it's not.
>>77659258
I remember being 12 in 2008 and thinking he was really going to change America and make it great wow I was naive.
>>77667754
>But really man, that isn't going to happen, democrats do historically well in congressional elections during a presidential election cycle
DEMOKEKS ONLY MAKE UP 43% OF CONGRESS, YOU DUMB FUCK. NO WAY ARE THEY GONNA WIN ENOUGH SEATS THIS YEAR TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE HOUSE.
>>77668744
Economic growth is stagnating quite a lot actually and the debt will lead to crisis. But otherwise I agree. It certainly could be much worse and the only reason it isn't is because no one has enough authority to actually fuck everything up in the US.
>>77667317
>an ideal republican
Ideal for whom? Even most hardline, neocon RINOs hated (or claimed they hated) his budget and healthcare plans. Never mind all the corruption allegations, which shouldn't be ideal for anyone on either side of the fence. Don't minimize gun control either; that's probably the most important single issue to take from a politician. Dubya, H. Dubya, and Clinton are all cut from the same purple mold, but Bill was well left of his predecessor and successor on most issues.
>>77668744
businessmen actually have to give results otherwise they don't stay businessmen
>>77668736
And now anyone on welfare will get more money if they have another kid or three
>>77666613
>you cucks and every other cuck I meet has nothing to say about congress, only the president
Legislative bodies have always been nothing more than a group of infantile children too stupid to get their heads out of their asses thinking about their next election to ever actually do anything passing for real work. It's why in representative systems there has evolved a central figurehead to whip the legislature in line. In England it was first the King and later the Prime Minister. In America, it became the President.
If Congress is non functional its a sign that the President isn't doing his job of whipping it into shape.
Obama and Hillary also, some how, managed to screw up the middle east and our safety from terrorism; worse than Bush Jr.
>>77668910
Why are you yelling about democrats when republican congressmen have said never trump
>>77668910
I hope
Turn out is down for Democrats, but it depends on the state
>>77660120
First day on the new job pal?
>>77668744
Nixon wasn't ethical and he is easily one of the best modern US presidents. Results > morals
>>77668334
Get out and make a contribution to society. A full time worker at minimum wage won't be subject to those fines. Students and disabled people don't have a fine.
I'm not trying to be an Obamacare shill because it's not a perfect system. Anybody can read through the specifics and you'll see exactly why you're paying the rate you are. If you're in good health, it's honestly not that expensive to get pretty good covered. Im not overweight and have no history of medical problems so I'm not getting hit with any rate hikes.
>>77668924
Staggering maybe. But still positive growth. The debt isn't an issue, most governments have debt. It's very different from a person having debt.
>>77669196
debt is an issue. too much and you get crippled by servicing the debt. eventually you default, your credit goes to shit, hyperinflation, economic depression, and your country is ruined for decades.
>>77667681
>But he now qualifies to run as president despite having no political experience.
The fuckers in Washington make it seem politics is some sort of arcane magic that requires years of experience to master when in reality 90% of is sitting around sucking each others dicks and grandstanding on certain issues to your fellow Congressmen. Domestic politics is literally deal making, and Donald has been a good enough deal maker to get himself 10 Billion Dollars.
>>77668977
No they don't. Advertising and branding is a twisted, lying business. You could sell a piece of crap that's objectively stupid like the iPhone watch and charge more for different colored straps. You could make a hat and sell it for a thousand percent profit because it's got a political slogan embroidered in it. You could create content for video games then make people pay extra to unlock the full game.
It's politics but worse, because it actually works.
>>77659258
>Whatever happened to 'Change' and 'Yes we can'
you bought it idiot lmao.
change = middle aged black dude instead of an old white dude
yes we can = yes we can vote for someone based purely on race because race is a job qualification
you
got
flim
flammed
retard
lmao
>>77669196
Well if the economy doesn't grow fast enough to meet the demands of the growing consumer base we're sure as shit going to see some fireworks in the US. Stagnation would be sad but manageable if immigration were under control or strictly reduced, but with job growth not keeping up with population growth eventually larger and larger pools of people will be stuck on social programs unable to move for years or possible generations.
This drives up the debt and then >>77669381
>>77668978
Probably, but not my problem to worry about other people. Bottom line for me, Im happy to pay 2-3% of my annual income if it means I'm covered medically if shit happens. Again, I'm in good physical health. I've been to the doctor twice in three years. I can't speak for those with regular health issues paying more.
>>77669381
Keyword is too much. The US has debt within the healthy range.
>>77659258
>Republicucks systematically block anything put forward by Obama
>WHY HAS ANYTHING BEEN DONE?
Ameritards are the worst fucking humans beings on earth
>>77659258
He created ISIS so there is that.
>>77669708
they're stopping him from destroying the country.
>gun grabber
>open borders
>h1b expansion
>60k refugees
>release more people from prison
>>77669383
For the purely moral issues like gay marriage. But actual, important things like whether long term captial gains should be tax deductible needs a well honed legal and financial mind. Most politicians are lawyers for a reason. The ones that aren't lawyers rely on armies of advisors.
>>77669708
He had his first two years to pass anything and put his legacy on passing Obamacare
Big fucking deal
>>77667317
Not really true, it was Gingrich and the other Repubs that forced him that way. He voted TANF (welfare-cutting bill) twice before he had to let it pass, for example.
>>77659258
Yah fuck Obama shit my black ass still in the hood
I'm a #trumptrain now
>>77669766
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2NkjNvwuaU
he admits it
>>77669883
>provide health insurance to millions of Americans
>Keeps war machine going so fuckheads Marines can be left overseas and not in the american police forces so they don't kill civilians and kill potential terrorists instead
>HE HATES AMERICA
for fuck's sake
>>77670272
Obamacare is absolute garbage but I guess a leaf who doesn't have it wouldn't understand and that 2nd reason is a laughable joke.
>>77669682
>California's new budget repeals welfare rule denying extra aid for newborns
>For the last two decades, the "maximum family grant" has blocked mothers who give birth while enrolled in the state-funded CalWorks program from receiving any extra financial support for their newborns. Critics said the rule stemmed from the false, stigmatizing idea that poor women on welfare were getting pregnant to reap more cash aid.
>But starting in January, under the agreement, an estimated 130,000 children in 95,000 families across the state will be eligible to receive extra funding -- $136 per child each month.
>"The maximum family grant is an antiquated policy based on a flawed hypothesis," Mitchell said. "The woman who would have a baby for an additional $130 a month does not exist. It's a racist, classist, sexist policy."
http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_30020955/california-legislature-passes-state-budget-repealing-welfare-rule
From ThinkProgress
>California Will Finally Ditch Racist, Sexist Welfare Rule
Fuck this state, let the suckers work and have their taxes go to illegals
>>77668845
>The world is not fucked.
Our world is. Check your brilliant-benevolent-dictator-for-half-a-century privilege.
>>77660400
Things were fucked up way before you were born kiddo.
Maybe when Trump enters office, this will cause people to wake the fuck up.
>What notable thing has he done besides shitting up the middle east?
NDAA
>>77670360
I'd say he could be the FUCKING LEAF that would spam shit every day
>>77670360
You are right about Obamacare, I live in great country with high energy healthcare that can treat my cancer without charging me a single bill.
The second reason I put out there was just bait, I agree.
>>77659580
only niggers would see this as a good thing...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
>>77670679
What percent are your taxes for your "free healthcare"?
Don't you have to wait weeks to months?
>>77659426
They weren't that bad at all under Bush.
>I actually miss that guy.
>>77667833
Why mention failed experiments???
Based Singapore.
>>77671122
Blacks knew complaining to Bush would get them nowhere, so black movements never took off.
Bush was pretty based honestly
>retards think who the president is matters
Obama, Busg, Clinton, Trump, etc are all the same. Congress has the real power, and the presidential candidates are all demagogues with a show to keep you entertained and unthinking as to who actually fucks up the country.
You're all idiots if you think a president can do anything no matter who it is.
P.S. Trump is a cunt and a con artist
>>77670679
5% on products and services, pays for my healthcare
>>77671419
>Con Artist
>Cun Artist
>Cunart
>Cunt
>>77659580
not gon lie nigga those look fresh AF
>>77671419
Congress hasnt stopped Obama from being a ballsy nigger and doing things on his own.
>>77661026
make one with Justin Trudeau, it will make Obama look like an alpha black knight slayer.
You just think nothing happened.
Go to politifact and look at all the promises he kept and actually did enact. Yes i know theres an equal amount he didnt keep but thats beside the point. Op is just willfully ignorant.
>>77659258
He nigged quite niggerdly
>>77669656
Summer? How is he even being edgy he's literally just stating facts
>>77660120
>>77659258
It wasn't for nothing. The blacks are waiting for the signal to riot in every city and there has been a terrorist attack every year of his present term.
>>77660120
>at least she knows what she's doing
Yeah, true, Libya should be proof enough about that.
<<<OBAMA ON HILLARY
<<<OBAMA ON HILLARY
<<<OBAMA ON HILLARY
<<<OBAMA'S EVIL LEGACY
<<<OBAMA'S EVIL LEGACY
<<<OBAMA'S EVIL LEGACY
>>77667681
Hitlerwas refering to the Jews
