"Today, Vice President Joe Biden sent this message to people who, in the wake of the tragic attack in Orlando, signed a We the People petition calling on the government to ban AR-15-type assault weapons from civilian ownership. As he says below, "The President and I agree with you. Assault weapons and high-capacity magazines should be banned from civilian ownership."
GUN GRAB!
>>77617288
That's not good.
>>77617288
SHALL
>>77617288
Why is Biden sending this and not Obama?
>>77617288
>sauce
>1 post by this ID
Pick one
>>77617288
Please happen.
>>77617288
Let em try to take em.
My prediction, all of this bluster goes away in a few weeks and guns n ammo get more expensive for a while, like every other time.
>>77617708
Because Hillary is going to be indicted and put on trial. Biden will then become the candidate.
I WARNED YOU FUCKERS
NEXT WEEK THE 1994 ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN WILL BE RETURNING
>>77617288
Oh my god...
GUN GRAB. GET AMMO AND PARTS NOW ANONS.
Unless it's an EO Congress will put the kaibash on any sort of grab.
I am now a #CruzMisslie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq-IICf7BNk
>>77617749
>Sauce is email, dip fucking shit.
If you were subscribed to Obama's cuck-mail-list you'd see every time he says something stupid.
If they try to take my shit they can eat bullets
>>77617919
I doubt it. He's a behind the scenes kind of guy like Cheney. He's also an old white man.
>>77617749
Oh and link
https://www.whitehouse.gov/webform/join-conversation-banning-ar-15-civilian-ownership
You guys are fucked.
Alright so the shooter uses a SCAR next time, what then?
My local gunshop was so busy last night, I couldnt even get a question in about my ak. They almost sold out completely of their AR's and mags. We're going to have one of the highest record buys to date.
>>77619163
It wasn't even an AR-15 that the shooter used.
He used a Sig Sauer MCX.
But for whatever reason, people have a massive hardon for the AR-15, even though there are guns that shooter faster, farther, more accurately, and have larger mags.
>>77619587
AR-15 is nothing but a buzzword for them.
This is the legacy they're going to try to solidify.
This administration fucked up on just about everything it touched.
Pelosi said the democrats weren't going to even try an ar15 ban, not after what happened in 2013. What they're going to push for is universal background checks and no guns for people on watch lists.
>>77617587
COPLY WITH NFA, FOPA etc etc etc
If they couldn't get anything through after Sandy Hook, they won't be able to now.
>>77618026
I still have my pre-1994, grandfathered rifle. Suck a dick, Biden.
>>77617587
NOT
>>77619794
>implying they know what due process means.
Why not ban Islam, that will stop terrorist attacks, right guys? Right?
>>77617288
What if I have one already?
>>77620560
INFRINGED
>>77620560
ONE
of these faggots who just gets on a board and shit posts in all caps "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!"
>>77620940
Too late, commie. Now you just look like a loser.
>>77619587
>Ar-15 type weapons
time for pol to be bfto ones more
>>77621141
You expected us to believe government wants citizens to own effective arms?
>>77621018
As opposed to looking like the winner you do. Literally just shit posting "SHAAl NAWT BEH INFRINJUHD" and calling people commits like its the fucking Cold War. Seriously, you have to be a goddamn moron to ignore all the court decisions that have ruled that regulations aren't infringements. You're probably just some edge lord who went out and bought a .44 yesterday.
>>77621256
no i expect the gov to take guns away. And ill be laughing as all these basement dwellers hand over their weapons without the fight they have been talking shit over.
>>77619794
Dont we already have NICS? And a watch list is against due process, which is another set of shit like no-fly lists that should be a different thread.
>>77621571
It will be a while before they ban/confiscate. That's why they are testing the waters with the rumors of bans and such. And good luck enforcing any kind of gun grab, sure you will kill a lot of gun owners, but how many police/government workers would die as well.
>>77621018
look here >>77619870
now repeat that to yourself
>>77621559
Sound a little butthurt, friendo.
are they aware of the sheer number of armalites in the states?
guys i think you're headed for a civil fucking war at this rate
>>77617288
How do we counter this?
>>77622307
>Friendo
Kill yourself
>Y-you're butthurt
Why? You're gonna be wailing like a retard in a few days when regulations get passed
>>77618864
Damn I do this this for dumb shit liberal sites but I never thought about doing this for my dumb shit president
>>77619753
They probably think AR means "assault rifle"
>>77622466
Use our rights
The purpose of the 2nd amendment is very clear
>>77622410
We are and it will be fucking bloody.
>>77622466
plead the 2nd
>>77622728
Ok. How do we counter this without starting a war?
>liberals ban assault rifles
>celebrate
>next day someone mows down a dozen faggots with a different kind of weapon
>engage in mental gymnastics to save face
This is all too predictable.
>>77622859
>When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We write a letter
>>77622859
We don't. This is the way it was going to be from the beginning.
A while ago I posted that you aren't better off than us with the same ideology running rampant. That you would just bend over, let yourselves get disarmed and call it progressive while doing so.
This is another step closer to prove this calculation right. Sorry, burgers.
why are there people who want less rights? why are there americans who would cheer at the thought of their bill of rights being dismantled?
is it mental illness?
>>77622859
lmao he thinks it's avoidable. csa will rise again
>>77622859
It may be time for that if this goes through.
>>77622931
Well, how do we get enough people to give it momentum? What politicians do we contact?
>>77623073
They literally can not think for themselves
They do whatever the TV tells them to do
ITT: people without any formal education on statutory interpretation pretend to have a better grasp on what the constitution says than ACTUAL LAWYERS
>>77623073
>is it mental illness?
yes, many of my compartiots are infected even after 25 years on no communism, it'll take a generation to do away with the damage
>>77623103
Million man march on washington and hand it to oboingo in person
>>77617288
>mfw next time its an illegal AK47 and nobody goes "that AR-15 ban was pretty useless wasnt it?"
>>77617288
What does this mean if you already have one?
Are they going to pry it from my cold dead hands?
>>77623276
>ban assault rifles
>ban guns
>ban self protection
Ban fucking niggers and Mexicans. There would be almost no murder if we did. Fuck off shills
>>77622790
Your 'founding fathers' were some of the most thoughtful and dedicated men to ever be born. the second amendment was written with knowledge of high capacity air rifles that could easily outperform any musket, and they'd have been stupid to not have realized that the technology would continue to progress.
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
means that they were expecting you fucks. they had to fight off an occupying tyrannical government using military grade equipment, and the armalites in question here aren't even that. they're semi-automatic civilian variants.
please fight them tooth and nail, amrikki. your fore-bearers are rolling in their fucking graves.
do it because I'd do it too, if i had the misfortune of being born south of the border in this era.
>>77623146
SHALL
>>77622859
We continue to make memes and support the alt-right movement.
>kisses and hugs not fighting for your liberty
>not stockpiling 80% AR-15 lowers and making friends with a machine shop
>>77622466
Vote in your state's local elections and for your state's senators and representatives.
>>77622629
All this hostility, where is it coming from, friendo? You weren't beaten by as a child were you?
>>77622669
AR-15 = "Assault Rifles which carry more than 15 bullets in the magazine"
>>77617288
Please give Trump some higher poll numbers.
>Ban "assault weapons"
>More people are killed yearly by knives than rifles and shotguns put together
Will they ever learn?
>>77623146
NOT
There is only one answer to government calling for any type of gun ban, they go first. If we the people can't have it because it's too dangerous, then they can't have it.
I do wonder how they will disarm everyone once the police have given up their guns though.
>>77617288
>implying Obama won't sign an executive order outlawing all guns in the US in his last days in the White House
>>77622859
Violence breeds violence, but in the end it has to be this way.
Is gun control in the US as decisive of an issue as it seems from the outside?
The Pro-gun are fanatical and don't want to give an inch, arguably for good reason given what the Fed's record.
The Anti-gun seem to go absolutely berserk online and in the media whenever someone gets shot, like they'd snitch on their own family to get rid of guns.
I mean, are there many people who are neither one or the other?
>>77623489
No shit. But this could get passed before the next election day and they might not try and fight it as hard unless we speak up.
>>77622859
By starting a war
>>77623773
Very very few exist, because those in the middle are simply people that want to walk to the next stepping stone twards the far left
>>77623380
Arms are arms right? How come we can't carry lots of weapons they were readily available long before the man settled this continent.
Can we carry swords? Shit can't even carry some knives. carry a mace bat to bat some sense into roaming niggers? Nope.
>>77617288
>>77623773
Very little are on the fence. It's like the election this year. You're either all in for one or the other, anyone who says otherwise is a cuck whose false flagging
>>77623773
The neither one way or another ones are the "regulations" ones who don't fully understand what that means.
>>77623773
Most people in the US are either pro-gun or don't keep up with politics to care (niggers).
It's just the collage kids who don't know how the constitution works that are bitching.
>>77624026
>Single shoot
>Bolt action
How does that work?
>>77619587
>It wa-wasn't even an AR-15, h-he uu-sed a Sig Sauer M-MCX.
Shut up faggot. It is only good that they discuss of all assault rifles, not just the particular weapon.
If they ban the MCX today, armalite 15 is banned tomorrow.
>>77624173
If it doesn't have a magazine.
Buy lower today. It's the last day. This is the last warning.
>>77623773
>don't want to give an inch
I'd argue they simply know that they CAN'T give an inch. Ban the AR-15 and then the next time someone's shot, their gun gets banned too and then another and then another and soon enough, you're England.
any anons know what happened to the broadcast during the shooting?
it strangely vanished
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhwxeWVFcFM
>>77617288
Every time Obama opens his stupid mouth AR15s fly off the shelves. He sold another 250k of them since Orlando. He has to have stock in S&W, he would be an absolute dumbass not to.
>>77624348
It's already happening. You guys are talking about banning books and basic metal working equipment because one asshole couldn't wait a week.
>>77617288
>mfw nothing will come of this
>mfw all the assmad libtards crying BAN DA GUNZ U DONT NEED 11 ROUND CLIP!!11!
This is Alaska law
"HB 69 - Exempts Firearms from Federal Regulation"
It was passed and signed by our governor.
>>77624454
>You guys
I'm in Northern Ireland. We're not rreally affected by England's lunacy. We still have handguns here, for example.
>>77623773
>The Pro-gun are fanatical and don't want to give an inch
Like we gave NFA items already?
>Guy bought gun with credentials from being in law enforcement
>LET'S BAN GUN FROM THE PUBLIC GUYS
I don't get it
>>77624511
Alaska is based because of all the douches that don't want to live there.
>>77624511
"You can't hunt with an AR-15...blah blah"
>muricans can make CNC routers on their basements
>they can use said CNC routers to mill a lower receiver and every other part and tool
>they can literally make AR-15 rifles from scratch using aluminum blocks and barrel blanks
Good luck trying to enforce that ban
>>77620940
Shut up fagget
Can't wait for some mentalist to go berserk with a Barrett .50 cal or something along those lines.
'We the people demand the banning of all armor piercing bolt action sniper rifles'
>>77624511
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>>77624750
I'm about to finish building mine.
Fucking bolt stop pin just makes me give up every time.
>>77617288
Crack down on crime and nigger/spic gangs and gun violence goes down. Bill cracked down on crime in the 90s and things got better. Rudy cracked down on crime and Jew York became an actual city and not just a giant ghetto.
Increase police presence in ghettos, strongly enforce three strikes rules, jail gang members, afford protection to those citizens who speak out/fight against gangs, give SWAT the ability to conduct raids with violent force if necessary. You'll see gun violence fall real quick once the gangs are dealt with.
>>77617708
People actually like, or at least don't hate, Biden.
>>77619587
They want to ban the AR-15 specifically because of how many American's have it.
If they were to just ban his model. They wouldn't be taking that many guns away because of how "off brand" it is.
Compared to the AR-15 that 5 million American's own. That's a lot of gun's taken away because of one model.
>>77619951
This.
I mean, that's no reason to get complacent and you should definitely be a member of groups like the NRA or Gun Owners of America if you're someone who values the 2nd Amendment and it never hurts to contact your representatives, but I'm not too worried about another assault weapons ban (right now at least).
The 2nd amendment is basically written in stone.
>>77625451
No, it's written in blood.
bump
EMAIL YOUR FUCKING SENATORS
Man I really fucking hope this doesn't make the price on the AR I've been saving for go up. How long does it usually take for dealers to raise their prices from one of these scares? I'm supposed to buy it on Sunday. Fuck, HELP.
>>77617288
>Assault weapons
For real though: how do they define these? Pistol grips? A specific type of lower? Fold/collapse stocks?
Otherwise it's like saying we should ban "sports cars" or something equally nebulous.
>>77625427
The email specifically said "AR-15-type assault weapons"
Learn to fucking read
>>77626006
that's the point
>>77626006
>how do they define these?
does it shoot bullets
>>77626006
All guns must be banned. The Proles cannot be allowed armaments
>>77625999
You'll be fine. Digits confirm.
>>77624511
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2792135.html
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING BASED HOLY SHIT
Alaska>>>>>>>>>>>Arizona>>>>>>>>>>>Texas
>>77617288
My girlfriend got this email, but she never signed a petition or anything. Why would she have gotten it.
>>77623720
This man looks like he could make America great again
>>77626027
You actually think the NRA would allow that? Take away all "AR-15-type assault weapons" in one swoop? The american people would go crazy as well.
But that's how you do negotiations you fucking retard. Ask for more then what you really want.
Then they can say ok we'll settle for just banning the AR-15 not all "AR-15-type assault weapons"
And it also gets the people to think "look they do listen to us they are only taking one model away not all of them" When that was the plan all along.
You're pretty naive if you don't understand that or just young.
Hey /pol/ allow me to show you how you can legally manufacturer an untraceable, unserialized AR-15 in your very home without any gunsmithing experience.
To create your AR you will need the following items.
>AR Jig
http://www.80percentarms.com/products/80-ar-15-easy-jig
>Tool Kit
http://www.80percentarms.com/collections/lower-jigs/products/easy-jig-tool-kit
>80% Completed AR receiver
http://80percentarms.com/products/80-lower-receiver-type-iii-hard-anodized-billet-ar-15
>Router
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0048EFUV8/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1464734033&sr=8-3Ï€=SY200_QL40&keywords=router+dewalt&dpPl=1&dpID=41MSATBmFfL&ref=plSrch
>Hand Drill
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0011XSEW6/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1464734122&sr=8-2Ï€=SY200_QL40&keywords=dewalt+drill+cord&dpPl=1&dpID=41Qg0pUZJfL&ref=plSrch
>Lube or coolant for the drill bits
>A vise to hold the jig
After you have acquired all the pieces, watch this instructional video to help guide you in finishing your lower.
https://youtu.be/SiHdV5slQps
CONGRATULATIONS
You now have an untraceable firearm that's totally LEGAL*! Take pride in knowing you've manufactured a gun in your very home.
But we're not done yet, the fun has just begun. Now you can assemble your rifle however you'd like!
This is a good starter kit
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-1-7-premium-rifle-kit.html
*ATF letter and FAQs here
http://www.80percentarms.com/pages/faq
>>77617288
>folks
Why is this word so insufferably irritating?
Any one else notice that it is used almost explicitly in leftist/coincidence ramblings?
>>77626275
"The crux of the bill is as simple as it is falsely advertised by its proponents: states can pick and choose which federal laws to abide by,"
Like states that are sanctuary cities? Or states that legalized marijuana? (Our state did but it was more of a mind your own business than muh weed.)
>>77626440
Oh wow? It's almost as if you weren't even alive for the first Assault Weapons ban.
Fucking faggot.
>>77622899
They get mowed down with the same weapons because criminals break laws. Not follow them.
Check em
>>77626275
>HB69: A National Disgrace
>It would tell citizens that they had more power than the feds
I'm so sick of this kike media
>>77624180
Then I'll go buy an ACR or a SCAR
>>77626461
thank you based shiroposter
is learning to use a router hard?
would this lower be compatible with all the stuff (like stocks) a premade lower is?
is 80%'s complete kit good? (although both it and palmetto's are sold out)
>>77617288
>assault weapon bans
Didn't Reagan already ban them?
BAN ASSAULT MUSLIMS!
>>77617288
Yeah, nah. Not happening.
>>77626810
Are you fucking retarded. The 1994 assault weapons ban was a complete failure.
You're a literal fucking moron or a shill.
>>77626275
>Ammo clips
REEEEEEE
>>77627243
>is learning to use a router hard?
Not at all, watch the video to get an idea, it's basically just smooth carving of metal.
>would this lower be compatible with all the stuff (like stocks) a premade lower is?
Yes, it's perfectly compatible.
>is 80%'s complete kit good? (although both it and palmetto's are sold out)
I've never used their kit, only PSA
Try this one it's pretty good
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-midlength-5-56-nato-1-7-socom-melonite-freedom-rifle-kit.html
>>77627425
They aren't banned you just have to get a class 3 license to own them. Or live in Alaska where if it's made here and doesn't leave the state it's legal.
>except LEO, and other government officials
>except the private and public security of wealthy politicians and hollywood elite.
FUCK OFF TYRANT SCUM
>>77627648
>it was a complete failure
That's why no one could buy assault weapons, huh dumbass?
You're probably like 16 that's why you don't remember.
>>77617708
Because Joe Biden bans everything cool. He banned steroids for instance
>>77628491
>Joe "The Gains Goblin" Biden
>>77626461
I just tried to finish my first 80 lower the other day. I got my lower from a different company than 80 percent arms, but have there "Universal Jig". My lower didn't work with it, and its ruined. so now I have to order a new one.
The process is easy and fairly straight forward. Just next time, I'm going to get the lower from 80arms, and I shouldn't have a problem.
>>77628690
>Joe "The Gains Goblin" Biden
Sensibly chuckled at that, he is literally a gains goblin. Bitch kept crying about "muh integrity" in baseball when it was more popular than ever due to the insane plays made possible by steroids.
>>77617288
Wasn't this dumb worthless son of a bitch supposed to be curing cancer or something? Just think of all the mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters rotting in the ground after suffering through cancer who are dead because of this moron's incompetence. So for all of those kids dying in some hospital right now JUST HOLD ON because any second now Uncle Joe is gonna CURE FUCKING CANCER. Ok? Thanks.
>>77623582
This. If you want to ban anything (which is stupid because bans don't work), ban pistols. But that won't work because Jamal and Rodrigo are convicted felons and don't go to the gun shop to buy their guns.
>>77624180
assault rifles are banned in america already unless you can get a pre ban one.
>>77628378
>loopholes
You have to be a shill because you've done no research on this topic if you think it was successful ban.
>>77628723
shit. I was thinking about buying some 80-lowers I found in bulk but if you're telling me they don't work...
That doesn't make any sense to me? Aren't all lowers basically the same?
>>77628723
Yeah as a general rule only use their lower's for the Easy Jig.
Mine came out perfect, she's my pride and joy.
Don't bother getting the 7075 aluminium
>>77629048
>you're shill
Yeah, I'm a shill for the second amendment, that's right.
Go back to rebbit you liberal fuck.
>>77626488
I think it's like a defensive mechanism, just like how liberals pitch up their voice during an argument or debate and start acting like everything you say is wrong because you're not enlightened like they are.
>>77627243
Yeah, a router is easy. I've attempted this once, and the only trouble I had using the router, was I was trying to go to fast. You have to take it slow and steady. Only shave off a 1/4inch or less each pass you make.
Making these is the only way to get an AR-15 in commiefornia that can have any attachments. We have to have a bullet button on it, and only allowed 10 rd mags, but at least we can accesorize
>>77629059
All lower's have the same internal dimensions, but the same can't be said with the exterior.
Different thickness can interfere with the Easy Jig plates.
If you want to use the Easy Jig, get their Lowers
>Handguns kill over 10,000 people a year
>Automatic rifles kill under 400
>US government wants to ban fully automatic assault gun rifles and their 30 round magazine clips
Honestly, I'm pro gun-control, but the way anti-gun retards go about it is just farcical.>>77629210
>>77625946
I'll go tell Feinstein and boxer about all my woes.
>>77626461
Now we can make lowers out of lego molds!
>>77617288
>Don't worry America no one's coming for you're guns XD ~ O'Bama less than a month ago
>lol jk XXDDD ~JewBidentyme today
>>77629122
what's the "hardened steel" option for the easy jig?
>>77629365
THIS THIS THIS
Don't try to speed up the routing process. If you go too fast the router will begin to violently shake. Take it slow and steady, change the depth of the end mill in small increments.
Even bolt-action rifles are far too dangerous to just let everyone fucking buy them
I'm even on the fence about cap and ball replicas, I mean a lot of people died by those and they are legal in poland but its a time bomb
so yeah no firearms at all is best
The Republic is lost and all it took was one self-righteous fact-ignoring nigger president.
>>77628378
There's a DOJ study even saying there was almost no effect due to the low use of AW in crimes anyway..
>>77629059
They are all supposed to be the same, but I'm sure there can be some variance. It fit in the jig, but the measurments were off and I ended up going through the one of the walls.
I got my lower from here.
http://www.tacticalmachining.com/80-products/80-ar15-lower-receivers/custom-engraved-80-ar15-lower-receiver.html
>>77617288
What are they gonna do when the next mudslime is dual-wielding pistols?
>>77629210
It seems like somewhere along the way you thought I was anti-gun rather then stating facts on how they will go about taking our guns away.
This is an anonymous forum. Check your ego at the door and it's ok to say you were wrong.
Can't believe I just wasted my time with some retard who couldn't understand what I was trying to say.
>>77629824
Kek. It's been lost since the 60s, read a book. If some sort of revolution doesn't happen this generation we weren't worthy of calling ourselves descendants of the founding fathers anyway. Just doom our children to be ethnically cleansed and ruled over by foreigners from all around the world.
>>77624173
W-what? Are you retarded?
>>77624222
There are single shots that have magazines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steyr_HS_.50
>>77629661
The Supreme Court specifically ruled that handguns are protected. They haven't given any guidance on so-called "assault weapons"
Also, ~400 is the number killed by all rifles, from bolt action 100 year old hunting rifles to AK47's.
Crime with legally owned automatics is pretty much nonexistent.
>>77629683
Haha I learned the hardway. Tried to mill to much at once and it bounced out of my hand. Wasn't expecting it.
As for my lower, it wasn't thick enough for the easy jig. Gonna order a new one Tuesday. Should I pay the extra for the anodized one?
>>77626275
>>77626643
>>77627124
>It would tell citizens that they had more power than the feds.
>it's fucking real
>>77629535
>handguns kill 10,000 people per year
Yeah, that's mostly niggers in the inner city.
Leftist faggots like yourself create the problem then punish the citizens by providing a solution that only results in more control. A gun ban is targeted at only one demographic - white people. Chicago and NY have banned guns before and their nigger crime rates remained unchanged.
>pre-1960s have blacks under control
>Leftists say we need to give them equal rights
>within 50 years they ruin every major city
>pre-1960s we don't take immigrants unless they're from Europe or better parts of Asia
>Leftists say that's racist
>within 50 years we have anti-American infiltrators in this country
>now the solution is to ban guns over it
Like I said, create the problem then offer the solution of more control so you can move us closer to a communist society.
Fucking kill yourself you piece of shit. Keep your nose out of my politics and worry about not offending anyone online.
>>77623418
Is that Trudeau?
>>77629535
>Automatic rifles kill under 400
There have been 3 murders with legal full auto weapons since the 1930s
The number of murders committed with illegal full auto weapons is in the hundreds over the same time frame.
Stop falling for media lies that the Modern sporting rifles you buy ina. Gun shop are full auto.
They are semiautomatic rifles
>>77623720
Great idea, we'll get nanomachines injected into us that harden in response to physical trauma.
>>77617288
Can we start a ban muslims petition..
>>77622859
Get support from non-NATO countries like Russia. Seeking support from foreign countries is what the Founding Fathers did.
>>77620186
Pics?
>>77630280
Meant that for
>>77629535
>AR-15 TYPE WEAPONS
to a liberal that means all guns that aren't shotguns, handguns and hunting type rifles
>>77630187
>There are single shots that have magazines.
Huh. I guess so.
>>77617288
I can't believe this is what it has come to. A few people die out of hundreds of millions and we act like the guns are the problem.
Why do they want our guns so b? Are they dangerous? How come the Gov can use them? If they're banned for the people, ban them from the military and Gov. Oh wait...
>>77629676
I believe it's a hardened plate. When newbies first try it their is a change they may accidentally shake or rush through, this could lead to accidental damage to the stencil plates. Is it necessary? Not really, just take it slow.
>>77630285
You don't have to get it anodized, it gives you the option of duracoating it another color if you'd like
>>77617288
think about this. They will send people with AR-15s to take all your guns.
>>77623519
Christ
You cracked the code.
>>77630280
>The Supreme Court specifically ruled that handguns are protected. They haven't given any guidance on so-called "assault weapons
Court case around 80+ years ago determined that the second amendment"protects weapons in common use"
Or rather weapons that would be of use to the militia for the common defense
Ironically this decision is grossly violated by the NFA in its newr entirety since the military uses everything in it commonly and as such these weapons are needed for modern militia for "common defense"
Of course all of these rulings were made off case law and not what the Constitution actually says which js a gross violation of the role of the Supreme Court but I digress.
> In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length" at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment, or that its use could contribute to the common defense
>>77617288
Do they not realize how long legislation takes to pass?
Have they not noticed gun sales go up after every shooting?
They'll probably increase and stay up for months now that lots of cuckservatives are now for some kind of gun control
>>77630709
no actually there are many who consider rifles to be them as well
and even some so ignorant as to group shotguns with assault rifles
>>77630921
They won't be civilians though
>>77617288
HH.
Also, executive order?
>>77630921
The politicians and wealthy elite suggesting we get rid of AR 15s are also protected by private/secret service security armed with drum roll please.....
AR15s
>>77631117
They said it is a possibility, which means yes, eventually before Obama leaves office he will try it.
>>77631071
Remember whn the media universally referred to the Remington 870 that the Navy yard shooter used as "An AR15 style shotgun"?
>>77631071
yeah they may say they support some gun ownership but we know they want ALL guns taken from Americans
>>77617288
>guns are the problem
>islam is fine though
100% gun grab is going to happen soon
>>77631117
Executive order's have no legal means to create new laws.
>>77630280
Crazy, I knew that the 400 number was all rifles, I just didn't realise that the auto weapons were so low. How come handguns are protected? Is it just that other weapons are perceived as being more dangerous?
>>77630402
Pro gun control, not gun banning. I was specifically saying that a ban on assault rifles would be stupid as fuck, although a ban on guns in general is kind of stupid and ineffective.
>Fucking kill yourself you piece of shit.
Why, for talking about politics on a board about politics?
>Keep your nose out of my politics
Nigger, you live in the most important country in the world. Your politics are everyone's politics.
>and worry about not offending anyone online.
Go suck on a massive bag of dismembered nigger dicks, you faggot gook kikefucker.
>>77631306
He's such a piece of shit. I desperately want Trump to bring this to everyones attention, he's called Obongo out on not going through proper channels before
>>77621028
That definition leads it wide fucking open to ban pretty much anything
>>77630819
Wait so duracoat is the same thing? I'm fairly new to all this. I've gone shooting but never owned a firearm. That's why I want to build one instead of buy one. I'll know my rifle inside out by the time I finish.
>>77631423
>How come handguns are protected?
government doesn't care so much about handguns because you can't fight an army with them, but eventually they will want to take those away too
>>77631423
>Pro gun control
Gun control is every form tried has been shown to have zero effect on decreasing crime.
It is always no more than stripping liberty for false sense of security.
This is shown by 95+% of the peer reviewed studies on the subject.
From an intellectually honest standpoint gunncontrol is a dead cause
>>77631673
When they go for the (((AR-15))) they will search the rest of the house and get other weapons also.
>Assault weapons
A word with no meaning
>High capacity magazines
So like drum mags? Is Obama stupid enough to not realize that 30 round mags are actually standard?
>>77631423
>How come handguns are protected?
DC vs Heller
>>77631582
No duracoat is a type of paint.
Anodizing is a treatment to the metal in a salt bath.
Anodizing is more durable, but remember that aluminum on its own is rust proof and corrodes extremely slowly.
>>77631423
>pro gun control
that's why you should kys
In case you haven't noticed by now there is no point at which the government says "hey, I think we have enough control now". Freedom is an increasingly diminishing thing year after year. So by allowing even the smallest amount of gun control you are setting it up in the future for more and more restrictions on guns until we are not allowed to own them at all.
>>77632049
>So like drum mags? Is Obama stupid enough to not realize that 30 round mags are actually standard?
I want to say that they're simply lying but then shit like this happens
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fbel4SASUPQ
For anybody contemplating purchasing a firearm I have a few suggestions.
M&P Shield in 9mm
Glock 19
M&P 15 or Ruger 556 (Colt 6920 if you have the cash)
Maverick 88 12 gauge
>>77626006
I'm stuck way behind enemy lines in commiefornia- assault weapons basically means it's got scary looking parts like pistol grips, folding or collapsing stocks, barrel shrouds, forward vertical grips and detachable magazines. .. basically an AR or AK is an assault weapon, but a vanilla SKS is not.
I wanted to get a Yugoslav mauser, now that will jump in price because of this. And next commiefornia will probably ban anything chambered in military ammunition so an old bolt-action like I want will be illegal as well. Well that and semi-auto rifles will be banned so an SKS will become illegal.
Never vote for democrats. Never let this cancer take hold of your state. I'll stay here, because I know no one wants commiefornians moving to their states.
>>77632049
>"Is Obama stupid enough to not realize that 30 round mags are actually standard?"
>actually believing anything they say
>>77628874
there is no way you can make the argument that steroids are in any way good
Oh man, as a dude who doesn't own any guns this is some funny shitposting on both sides. This is really quite the shitshow.
>>77632362
S&W are pretty good desu. My dad has an M&P10 and it's fucking great.
Also adding that the Beretta Px4 is another great handgun choice.
>>77631071
I'm California certain types of shotguns are consider assault weapons and we can't have them.
If I remember correctly, they are banned from having a forward pistol grip, and some other things. Basically, if it looks like a scary bad weapon, its banned.
We have to have a special button on rifles so they aren't considered assault weapons. To take out a magazine, you have to use an external tool. Otherwise, illegal.
>>77632378
>>77632539
I'm from California as well.
Any type of AR with scary features is legal here.
>muh bullet button
Buy a fucking magnet
>muh 10 round mags
Buy 10/30 Lancer mags, thank me later.
>>77632529
>Also adding that the Beretta Px4 is another great handgun choice.
Px4 owner here can confirm.
>>77623519
Stumped by the even worse Assualt Karbine which has 47 rounds in a mag, those mad Ivans even made a 74 round version.
What happened with the '94 assault weapon ban? They didn't take them from civilians, did they? They simply stopped selling them. Right?
>>77632126
Okay, so it'll be harder to cut, and not provide much benefit.
>>77631377
Honestly I thought they would drop the whole gun bullshit like they did after San Bernardino
Guess I was wrong
>>77632495
Never heard of TRT?(testosterone replacement therapy)
>The American College of Sports Medicine acknowledges that anabolic steroids and testosterone improve athletic performance when used properly.
>>77626262
what did he mean by this?
>>77632529
>>77632808
Not gonna lie I'd probably go with the 92fs first guys.
The PX4 is kinda ugly IMO
>>77632808
my nigga
>>77632539
this is why you >>77631423 never advocate even the smallest gun control. give them an inch and they take a mile.
>>77632512
why aren't you using your constitutional right to own a weapon?
>>77623644
he won't live much longer if he does that
>>77632362
>government preparing a gun grab
>let's buy handguns to fight them
>>77631734
>>77632167
They'll call for gun control. Then confiscation. I mean with 300+ million guns in circulation in the US no way would a gun ban have effect.
Now a big worry would be fags turning in their guns or family members' guns. Cuckservatives have had a change of heart with No Fly List shit
>>77632948
Anodizing looks better. It won't be harder to cut, tungsten carbine end mills will tear through anything.
>>77631403
This.
We have a legislative branch for a reason.
That is NOT Obama.
>>77617833
You won't be any safer faggot
>>77617288
>to ban AR 15-type assault rifles from civilian ownership
2nd Amendment is kill.
Biden needs to be tried in a court of law for treason & be hanged.
TRAITOR!
TRAITOR!
SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ENEMY OF THE REPUBLIC!!!!
>>77633213
I agree that a rifle is much better.
But not everyone has the money for an AR.
Also they're harder to conceal.
>>77618679
I'm going to buy an AR or an AK today just in case.
>>77625805
>>77617288
>Holmes used his "modified"-to-hold-100-rounds Ar-15 to kill 11 people and wound 70
>Which he somehow did with a weapon that jammed after 7 shots
Fuck Biden. Fuck Obama. Fuck anyone using emotions as a basis for infringing on rights
>>77625427
They wouldn't be taking any guns. They would just stop selling them
Shall
>>77632913
>What happened with the '94 assault weapon ban? They didn't take them from civilians, did they? They simply stopped selling them. Right?
This js an excellent overview of that retarded piece of legislation. Link related.
The channel in general is also a very good resource for information on guns and gun laws and firearms related entertainment.
But yes it banned the sale of semiautomatic rifles with to many "scary" cosmetic/ergonomic features
Ones that were already sold could stillbbe owned and even sold in private sales because they were grandfathered in (that damn pesky 5th amendment).
Pic related
Some of these rifles would be banned for sale but others perfectly fine.
The FBI also did a study and found that "due to these weapons being used so rarely in crime already we found no evidence that the assault weapons ban had any effect on crime and Amy affect it did have would be to small to reliably measure"
Even the government itself in multiple studies has shown that gun control is impotent and useless but they don't care there's agenda's to be pursued under false pretenses.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vgPRjZsjPOk
>>77633465
2nd amendment is not kill.
It takes a lot to kill an amendment, especially one so vehemently defended.
I don't get the gun grab. The people will not give them up. If the US government attacks and steals weapons and arms from the people there will be foreign response.
What's the plan here? How is this in any way a solution to anything? We're on a path of destruction a 100x that of any shooting. Why?
While these fucking rich faggots demand ARs be banned, not a single fucking comment about Chicago.
Call all of your reps and tell them to stand against any gun control measures, as this was a terrorist attack, and the FBI failed us in stopping the threat they were watching.
Remember that? The FBI was watching this fucking guy. Remind them about this.
>>77632726
>The L5AWM 10/30 is a standard L5AWM 30 round body with a steel rivet installed to limit the capacity to 10 rounds.
top fucking kek
>>77633223
>Now a big worry would be fags turning in their guns or family members' guns.
Since that shooting the progun lgbt group pink pistols has over doubled in membership
>>77632495
>when used properly
because im sure sports arent so competitive that pressure to use steroids isnt alarmingly high, which leads to abuse and cases like chris benoit. steroids have no place in anything other than medical practice
>>77633728
I know it won't go through, but their phrasing in this press release is so BLATANTLY aggressive and unconstitutional. "Ban from civilian ownership" is wording you'd hear from some low-brow mayor or left-wing nut job -- this the VP speaking. It's crazy.
And again as per usual, gun sales will sky-rocket after a statement like this.
>>77633031
I actually like its aesthetics over the 92.
My experience is that the Px4 is easier to maintain is lighter and holds more rounds and even has less recoil due to the rotating barrel design.
But personal taste are personal taste
>>77632726
I know, about the mag button, I was just pointing out we have to jump through hoops to get the same thing, never heard about the magazines before.
What part are you from?
