Why is there currently such a big effort from the military to push women into frontline combat roles, some of them absolutely ridiculous.
The British military is trying this currently after taking a bit longer to "catch up with the times" compared to some other countries, which means roles like the Royal Marines and the fucking SAS are completely open to them.
Incidentally, it's interesting to me that not a single woman has even attempted to become a Navy SEAL, yet. It's almost like they don't want to, or something.
>>77569367
Someone's gotta be the cannon fodder, anon, and you can't assign the actually competent combatants in that role.
>>77569367
Calling feminist bitches out.. Thats what's happening...
More meatbags for the upcoming war
Equality for the sake of equality.
>>77569367
>Why is there currently such a big effort from the military to push women into frontline combat roles
Feminists are desperate to prove the women are equal to men in every way. Forcing them into those sorts of roles is part of it; not doing so would be admitting to inherent differences between men and women with becomes a slippery slope as far as feminists are concerned.
>>77569367
it's to fight the muzzies
Diversity is strength, so having women will make our armies stronger :^)
Just because western women are garbage, does not mean that women as a whole are useless in the military. Look at the kurdish women who are fighting ISIS right now. Albanian women have a history of fighting alongside their men in times of war when manpower was limited.
>>77569367
At best they're going to get their comrades killed, worst they'll sympathize with the enemy and stop men from doing their jobs.
>>77569367
Man are still gonna need pleasure women, anon. Putting them on the frontline lets then fuck something other than corpses with bulletholes.
women won't comprise any significant portion of the armed forces. politics lower the standards for the few hardheaded women who need to prove something to whoever by joining the army, but the overwhelming rest of the military are still men. why would any woman go to the army? only a handful of women with issues will want to pretend they can survive on the front lines to the same standard as male soldiers.
>>77569367
>obligatory
>>77569367
>Incidentally, it's interesting to me that not a single woman has even attempted to become a Navy SEAL, yet
GI Jane m8
>>77569367
can women apply for the SAS selection? I wonder how they feel about having to shit in a plastic bag, body to body with men in a small observation post that you spend a few days in
>>77573292
I doubt any could pass the minimum prerequisites
>>77570336
yeah but in frontline roles? fair enough to have women in all the pog roles but seriously mate
>>77573411
when I think about it, the type of women that would even be interested in SF probably aren't your typical uggs and starbucks girl
>>77569367
Times up
>>77573411
i dont think any women have even got through singleton tbqhf
>>77573506
Yeah, she'd have to be a top level female athlete to start with.
SAS entry level is for the fittest of men, or rather, those with insane endurance.
I couldn't do it, and i'm no tub of lard.
>>77569367
>The British military is trying this currently after taking a bit longer to "catch up with the times" compared to some other countries, which means roles like the Royal Marines and the fucking SAS are completely open to them.
As long as they don't lower standards it shouldn't be too much of an issue, though I can imagine situations where deploying female special forces behind enemy lines probably isn't a good idea PR wise.. IS would have a field day if they caught one.
>>77573411
The UK is changing our body armour and reducing the ammo & equipment individual soldier carry in order to make them easier to pass
>>77569707
I think partly this. Top brass would know women in combat roles would be a stupid idea. At least now women can try and fail to get through the toughest training regime and be proven wrong.
Let's just hope the standards aren't dropped to favour them like CA Fire Dept
>>77573754
>The UK is changing our body armour and reducing the ammo & equipment individual soldier carry in order to make them easier to pass
LMAO. That's absurd. Is that the official reason?
>>77573411
>>77573292
A woman has actually finished SASR selection before.
someone just please tell me we will have segregated squads. if the happening happens and I'm drafted, I don't want to rely on some bitch to have my back.
the SA police are trying to force a 50-50 ratio.
anyone trying to become a male officer is gg no re
we honestly need more bad people in the world, at least then it would wake people up from the dream world.
>>77569367
Hey OP, where is the sauce for this?
>>77573805
No, officially it's to improve soldier's ability to function in the field and save money, but the new armour is shit and the new uniforms have less carrying capacity in webbing etc. and are lighter, cheaper materials so tear more easily.
Even the BBC pointed out the army had an eye on women being given access to combat roles as a potential "benefit" of the change..
>>77573846
What could go wrong?
>>77573846
They are trying to make our army 40% female. It's actually an achievable goal when the army only has 5000 people in it
Please watch this documentary about the Swedish firemen ((or fire"people")).
It showcases very well the absurdities of 'job equality'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0jhx39i_kg
It's long, but it's well made and really worth watching.
>>77573908
>not even lifting his pants properly before jogging off on at a leisurely pace
They didn't even really want to catch him, did they?
>>77573908
>He's just casually jogging away
Hahahahaha
>>77573825
One woman?
That's impressive.
No really, that is impressive. It's not easy and she had the handicap of a vagina.
>>77573765
Even a lot of women serving in combat support know it's a retarded idea. The issue is that a lot of the women who are pushing for women go get into combat roles are usually middle-class and university educated which is absolutely not where the majority of the rank and file are drawn from for stuff like infantry. The women who come from the same backgrounds as the men serving in these roles don't give a flying fuck about serving in the military.
>>77573908
This happens all the time with prisoner escorts. The escort sub-contractor sends a supposedly suitable crew (ie. restraint-trained for dealing with refractory cunts) made up of 4 women and they refuse to make the escort because they can't handle him, then tell their contract monitors that we failed to produce him. Then they send a new crew a week later with the lead woman (who "supervises") and 3 huge Nigerians instead.
It's pathetic.
[Emigration from the west intensify]
>>77574185
>Pic
Happy Valley was great for not pulling any punches. It has female officers getting BTFO everywhere.
>>77573908
>Not even running after him. NYPD WHAT THE FUCK. REEEEEEEEE
>>77573908
Kek
Women in authority get the substitute teacher treatment.
>>77569367
liberalism is literal wartime sabotage tactics applied as a religion on a civilizational level
the goal is to weaken and destroy western countries to the point where they cant be distinguished from eachother and they couldnt defend themselves or project their will even if they wanted to. at this point the international organizations will step in and fill the power vacuum.
in the grand scale its a way for the european aristocratic elite to solidify control over their colonial conquests.
>>77574185
Sauce !
Because these women would be in their prime breeding age. Less White women breeding=Less Whites.
>>77574657
I wish I could help. If only there was some way of identifying, or some might say naming them. Imagine if you could name things, things like that webm, lets' call them files for now. If only there was some way of naming files so that people could find out where they're from.
It's a damn shame that doesn't exist.
Is it true the usa have 25% of women in the military ?
>>77573674
The entry level isn't a walk in the park but you don't need to be an elite athlete
2.4km in under 10 minutes
60 pushups (minimum)
80 situps (minimum)
6 pullups/chinups
over 10.1 on beep test
400m swim in under 15 minutes
All of those are achievable for anyone that puts the work in. The selection course on the others hand is more determination and endurance
>>77574657
Happy Valley. It was a police drama that aired on the BBC. It was surprisingly good compared to the usual shit on the BBC these days.
>>77569367
Feminism on one side and jews wanting to reduce white births leaving the desirables to breed only.
Too bad i'll probably be dreafted fighting on your side otherwise me and fellow ivans could have had the chance to rape some qt marine chicks.
>>77574725
Are u beeing ironic ?
>>77574836
I can do 80% of that with just my meager 15 min of exercise per day.
Adding another 15 min is probably all it would take, wow.
The problem with feminism is that men and women actually ARE different.
>>77574836
that criteria is not incredibly hard. the psychlogical aspects i bet are more demanding
>>77574831
Is it true Google doesn't work in France?
>>77573805
>be army general
>only send women out to war
I see nothing wrong with this
The grand plan is to fill the military with weak minded people who will be open to the idea that gun-owning citizens, patriots and nationalists are the actual enemy of the United States. Who better than women. As it stands now, with the traditional demographic makeup of the US military, a huge proportion of them would openly defy any orders to act against US citizens (in the case of a gun-grab for example).
The idea is to get rid of those guys and replace them with weak-willed, weak bodied, easily indoctrinated zombies who will gladly do the bidding of their globalist masters.
>>77575051
That's more or less what happened with the people's crusade
>Bunch of unarmed peasant men with their women and children show up in turkey
>get left alone because their own incompetence makes them not even worth fighting
>real crusade with armed soldiers shows up
>enemy thinks it's just more random women and peasants
>don't divert resources to fight them
Good tactic.
>>77575024
We don't have internet in France
>>77575225
Good thinking. Replace patriotic men with mushy women who bring feels into the equation.
>>77569367
>Why is there currently such a big effort from the military to push women into frontline combat roles, some of them absolutely ridiculous.
It's not from the military. You ask any soldier, even the armchair generals in charge, and few if any of them want women in the military.
It's coming from the politicians.
And the reason is because the military is too conservative. They want to liberalize the military to reduce the risk of an armed coup and increase the loyalty of the army to SJW's/leftist governments.
As it always is - it's control, control, control.
>>77573825
Didn't she go AWOL? Or was that the woman who got into Navy Seal Recon? Either way, this chick got into her desired combat role and when it came time for her to ship out, she was nowhere to be seen. Completely gone.
>>77574925
>>77575022
You have to do all that while sleep and food deprived dummy.
Women should be able to serve in w/e position.
IF they pass the tests (which should remain in the same level).
Lowering the standards is fucking stupid.
>>77575716
>Women should be able to serve in w/e position.
>IF they pass the tests (which should remain in the same level).
No.
>>77575716
>jew pushing liberalism
>>77575865
Literally no women will serve that way and it will silence liberals
>>77575865
The requirements were designed when only men were eligible for the roles.
Not reviewing them now that that's no longer the case would be discriminatory
>>77575716
No.
The US did a massive trial with mixed teams and all-male teams.
All participants passed the physical tests to gain entry.
It was found that mixed teams were slower, inaccurate and less communicated. It was found that women were slowing the men as they couldn't carry the packs for long periods, so men would have to carry them. Women were also more prone to injury and didn't have the physical strength to lift themselves or climb over obstacles without assistance.
In every test, all male teams outperformed them by considerable margins.
>>77574836
Is there a minimum height requirement?
>>77576084
You have destroyed me, Aus bantsmaster.
You are right and I have lost.
Those tests don't cover simple biological differences. thanks for the semi-redpill kek.
>>77569367
Men won't join anymore, why would a man fight to protect this shit.
>>77576148
I don't think there is, I believe the average height is actually slightly below the white male average here, but they certainly have a few giants, so I'm guessing that they don't have a particularly restrictive limit on height or limb length etc
>>77575585
Well if she managed to pass SAS selection I don't think she would have to stoop to doing a faggotty course like BUDS
>>77576390
So there is still hope for manlets like me. Thanks.
>>77575022
I joined up and got cold feet and left during basic
Hardest part is the cardio (at first) - running, jogging, etc. that just fucking murders you if you haven't prepared for it at all. After awhile your body catches up and the cardio's not so bad.
Second toughest thing is, I guess the psychology of it. Being away from family, being forced to do shit you don't like, living a regimented life with little/no freedom, having staff shit down your throat just to test you, and the lack of sleep. Sleep was a really big one.
Third hardest is dealing with the variety of colds/flu's you get from being in confined spaces with a dozen other people from other parts of the country, all carrying slight variations of bugs your immune system thought it was adapted to. So you've got a perpetually sore throat and wake up feeling awful every morning with your 4 or 5 hours of sleep.
Why I left:
One of the guys in my platoon cut his head open in the shower from an epileptic attack; I'd done first aid on him (along with a few other guys) and a few days later we were told we all had to get tested for Hepatitis. Had a nervous breakdown, went to talk to the chaplain just for some help/guidance and to calm my nerves; he wasn't very helpful and I ended up filling out an honorable discharge request, just couldn't handle the stress.
Request was accepted and I got put in a holding platoon while they did paperwork to cycle me out. That took about a month, which was honestly my best time there. I spent almost every waking moment in the mega's library reading military books. It's a really nice (small) library. They had every copy of Jane's ever published
>>77569367
I seriously doubt the Marines and SAS are going to lower their standards for women.
Women have technically been allowed to serve in the Foreign Legion since the early 00's. How many do you think made the cut, or even fucking applied?
The thing is most actual military women don't want to be on the frontline with the top tier male soldiers, because they know they can't compete.
It's the fucking tumblr landwhales who probably hate the military who campaign on their behalf.
>>77570336
You actually think those Kurdish women are fighting ISIS? lel.
>born too late to explore the sea
>born too early to explore the galaxy
>born just in time to see feminists react when barbarians rape a female soldier
Fuck this life.
>>77573963
I'm 34 minutes in and fucking furious.
>>77575653
No what I listed is the fitness test required to attempt the cadre/selection course. You achieve >>77574836 then go onto the course which has an attrition rate of around 80%
>>77569986
this i could see. a muslims belief system would probably crumble when he and and his buddies get rekt by girls.
as long they cconform to male standards and they're volunteering they can have at it. if they lower the standards for females its would severely harm a units performance. having 3 females drag a 200lbs male with 60lbs of gear to safety is gonna get more soldiers killed.
women are better suited in rear support roles, logistics, and equipment maintenance.
>>77573765
when you can't put out the fire, but you can feed the fire, you weigh your options. Especially if by feeding the fire you die with your enemies instead of alone.
>>77576057
>The requirements were designed when only men were eligible for the roles.
nonsense. men and women are equal.
there are 4 phases to political subversion: demoralization, destabilization, crisis, and normalization.
right now we're in the destabilization phase; put this together with the attacks from muslims, the economy on life support, BLM and other protest groups, and other events in our country and you can see that our society and culture is being destabilized. once they move their pieces into position they will begin the crisis phase and the women in combat roles will be totally ineffective and will grease the tracks for whatever crisis they have planned. the crisis will be some kind of war coupled with the biggest stock market crash ever. sometime before 2020 this will all hit, and everything will fall like dominoes.
>>77577843
Of course they are, but the requirements are sexist because they were written by men, women need input now too
>>77569367
It's stupid
I don't give a shit, woman or not, if you are fit for the role you should be good to go
As we all can see from the .webm she isn't ready so why the fuck is she doing this?
It's not like pushing woman on nice cubicle office jobs, if she makes a mistake people can fucking die.
>>77573963
watched the whole thing.
it's fucking terrifying, everyone should see this.
to undermine our military even more. from what i can tell, the majority of people in our government hate the united states and wish to accelerate its demise.
>eradicate our military
>disarm the populace
>destroy the 1st amendment
>flood the country with subhuman shitskins
all part of demoralization
>>77573908
For once I'm actually cheering for the nigger.
Female officers should not exist. Not only are they weak, they are emotionally unstable and incapable of deescalation.
>>77573908
How does cops like those exist?
Here you have to go trough different fitness trainings to even be a cop to avoid such things from happening.
My friend went to military school (Cops, firefighters, army etc.) and he said that they were having their asses beaten so much over half of the class quit before the end of it (3 years or so) how the fuck is it possible?
>>77578437
>they are emotionally unstable and incapable of deescalation.
What do you mean? :^)
>>77578500
It's not even that. Having lower mass than the giant African is understandable, but they should at least be trained to reduce that disadvantage. They should be trying to hold on to him as he drags himself away, they should be flipping him over and into the ground before cuffing him, wtf are they even trying to do?
>>77578564
kek did he died
>>77578357
If Shillary wins you will become Merkel tier.
Please don't let this happen
>>77578706
Look closely, she shot the ground.
Shouldn't they have safety on/not fully loaded (not the actual magazine in, but pulling the upper part to cock the gun)?
>>77574185
Maybe if those women were paid the SAME AMOUNT as men then they'd work just as efficiently
>>77578706
no, he got lucky, she was pointing is slightly off from his head.
You can see the dust kick up when the bullet hits the ground, and can see him lift his head up right at the end of the video.
Hoped he sued the bitch. She should be delegated to office work for the rest of her career, and count herself lucky she didn't accidentally kill a man.
>>77578955
She's not jewish
>>77573292
We had a brief from SAS, SRR and HUMINT recently. Women can already apply to the SRR. Though the SRR do a very different job to the other SF.
SAS also want to start letting women in, and the officer doing the presentation said that they would lower standards for them - because it would be proportional to the difference in physical limits between the genders. He also said they need women in SF in order to facilitate the odd occasion on some missions when a female may be useful.
My opinion notwithstanding. This is what he said to us.
>>77579224
he just wants a personal cumdump for when hes out in the desert
Question for all the countries with Conscription (SK, Jewland, Turks, Russians, Mex, Finns, Danes, Norwegians etc):
Do Women often enlist? Like, at a rate that seems higher than it might be in countries without conscription?
>>77569367
>Why is there currently such a big effort from the military to push women into frontline combat roles, some of them absolutely ridiculous.
It's the opposite m8: the military are pushing back against political pressure to prove men and women are physically equal.
>>77579505
Yes.
For REAL front lines fighting roles? probably a very little number, close to zero iirc.
>>77569367
>Why is there currently such a big effort from the military to push women into frontline combat roles, some of them absolutely ridiculous.
There is no effort from the military - it's something that's been forced on the military by politicians.
>The British military is trying this currently after taking a bit longer to "catch up with the times" compared to some other countries, which means roles like the Royal Marines and the fucking SAS are completely open to them.
Women are, and have been for decades, free to attempt the All Arms Commando Course, P-Comany, and SAS selection or any other elite course. Occasionally of the best women attempts and they invariably fail horribly.
No woman has ever passed P-Company. 2 Women have (apparently) passed the Commando course. No woman has, or ever will, pass SAS/SBS/SRR selection because these courses are beyond even most elite (already Commando/Para) men let alone women. The only way women will ever 'pass' these training courses with any meaningful regularity is if standards are lowered for them - as they currently are for standard entry throughout the military.
>Minimum run time required by Male soldier under 30 in British Army fitness test = 1.5 miles in less than 10 mins 30 seconds.
>Minimum run time required by Female soldier under 30 in British Army fitness test = 1.5 miles in less than 13 minutes.
If that enormous gap in standards isn't immediately apparent here's some context:
>Run time required for Commandos/Paras = 1.5 miles in (roughly - some variety depending on upper body strength) less than 9 mins 30 seconds.
>Run time required by male soldiers OVER 50 = 1.5 miles in under 13 mins 30 seconds.
Standard male soldier gets 1 minute more to run than elite Paras or Marines. Standard female soldier gets 2.5 minutes more than standard male soldier. Standard female soldier under 30 gets more time to run on fitness test than any Male under 50.
>>77569367
>Why is there currently such a big effort from the military to push women into frontline combat roles
women will be in support roles freeing up more men for the meat grinder. this was never about putting women on the "front lines".
>>77579626
Isn't conscription mandatory for EVERY JEW in Israel though, including women?
Have an Israeli Operator while you are at it.
>>77579749
Yeah.
Do you think we are all fighters or something?
It is a law for everyone, but there are office jobs and etc. I was talking about hard frontline style infantry.
I work in a fucking office.
Boring ass job.
Feels like a wagecuck. (Earn 810 shekels a month which are 209$)
>>77578706
you can see that she missed
>>77579913
No, I know most people in the military, especially a modern one, like your IDF or the US Armed Forces, end up doing clerical or support jobs. 21st century forces require a lot of logistical support, and tech support for dope war machines.
Slightly /k/ related question- Did you do basic with the Tavor or an M16?
>>77578859
they shouldn't have the finger on the trigger
>>77573674
I failed quite badly and I was one of the strongest and fittest in my unit. By the time I was out half of selection had already gone. This was after already completing a number of challenging fitness tests. Plus there are some test that took a fair amount of courage I am skeptical of women completing them.
I am very skeptical of a woman even making it past the first month.
>>77579749
>Isn't conscription mandatory for EVERY JEW in Israel though, including women?
Orthodox are exempt, which is hilarious because they tend to be the ones that egg on the conflict by building settlements and runnig over Palestinian kids, and then they get the Good-Goy secular or moderate Israelis to don uniforms and pick up arms to defend their smelly chosen dreadlocked arses. Like fucking pottery.
>>77580428
>jews jewing jews
>>77580235
You have different levels of bootcamps, I am a "jobnick" (Working in an office) so I did the 02 bootcamp. (There are 02, 03, 05, 07).
Which is the lowest level (unless you have medical problems and decide to volunteer regardless).
Anyways, on the shitty one month 02 bootcamp, we get M16s.
Tavors are for fighters (05+), some of them also shoot a lot of cool stuff, Negev, sniper rifles, etc.
>>77580505
Yeah, they are jewing us hard and deserve to be gassed. can you really blame Nazi Germany? I don't think so.
>>77574836
That's the bare minimum to be loaded onto the course, there's also a 25kg Bergen run of 2.4km under 13mins.
>>77580588
Damn, didn't know there were different levels of boot. Did they actually train you guys with your rifles for basic proficiency?
>>77574925
It's the bare minimum to be loaded onto the course. It's a filter thats done on the first day.
It gets rid of all the fatties.
>>77569367
I honestly think it's some kind of long term espionage plan to degrade our militaries.
>>77569367
What did she struggle with and threw at that door in that webm?
>>77569367
>the fucking SAS are completely open to them.
LOL good luck with that one women.
I can see why they would be, but no.
>>77581058
look like a training grenade
>>77569367
All it will take is one woman getting her comrades killed and then the men will step back and let women die from their own stupidity during patrols and whatnot.
>>77579749
I once spoke to these israeli girls who said they would never fuck an european guy who was not in the army, because the girls in israel are more of a man than man in europe.
>>77580853
Nothing too serious,
how to hold the weapon, breath, reload, open the gun parts (not all of them, like the "first layer only"), standing, crouching, and crawling mode (damn crouching is fucking painful!)
Shot in total like 50 bullets, was fun.
Because I'm on a super rare place, I have only one week in my service in which I need to watch a base (watch tower etc) I will have just one more shootout :(
>>77581581
Do they also say they won't fuck israelis who are not trained infantry? topkek
It's a kike lie they told you, they don't want the uncut goy
>>77581297
Can't wait for the result with a real live grenade in the news.
>>77574185
This gave me a boner.
>>77578564
>>77578706
could you actually sue her for that?
>>77581984
She fired when he wasn't resisting and almost killed him so I think he can.
It's 2016!
>>77576148
they used to have one in the uk of 5'10" but they stopped that.
i do not feel protected by female police. they can work well as part of a man/woman team (often they can talk down an angry person more easily) but i don't think they'd ever get in the way of me and some angry git
>>77576148
>Is there a minimum height requirement?
For SF, no. In the British Army they tend to be average sized or manlet triathlete types. It's a power-to-weight ratio thing. If you're going to be stuck out in the middle of nowhere for three weeks and shitting in bags and carrying everything with you (including the bags), it doesn't really makes sense to be some hulking brute.
They do, however, bulk up when they rotate out to the CT teams (the lads that kick down doors etc.) but other than that it's running, running and more running.
>>77573110
What is she doing?
It will change once they start getting slaughtered and raped during the next war.
>>77573908
Nice hustle there, ladies. Serve and protect, unless it requires too much effort.
>>77584254
but I just got my nails done anon
>>77583944
smashing the patriarchy
>>77583944
Simply holding a gun. And /pol/ isbeing racist about it.
putting women in combat makes about as much sense as putting children in combat.
In fact it should be a war crime to put women in combat. Like children, they are not made for it.
>>77580639
>Moderate jews jew whities
>Orthodox jews jew moderate jews
Who jews orthodox jews?
>>77583944
pointing 2 guns at herself
I don't know about the UK. But the US military has a fairly serious problem with rape, deviant behavior and inappropriate sexual relations. After a rape scandal a few years ago, Congress tried to change the jurisdiction over sex crimes in the military. Appeals in US military justice are handled by the base commander. The proposal would have created another authority to hear appeals for sex crimes. The military fought this and won.
I assume this is some kind of concession. Plus they expand their pool of recruits.
>>77584873
>women shouldn't be in the army because too many of our soldiers are rapists
God bless America
>>77585607
That's an operational issue for the services to work out.
>>77584486
No one, sadly
>>77573825
SASR training is nothing compared to the UK SAS training.
>>77569367
Filename takes me back to better times...
>>77573963
>>77577141
ffs half of them aren't strong enough to save someones life
... half of them will cost someone their life due to "equality" what a fucking joke
>>77587429
it's 2016!
