Saw this on kikebook.
So far the only answers aren't really answers. They're basically just questions like "So what should we do, let everyone own whatever they want?"
>>77554301
lel thats an ar57
All you can print is the lower, still need the upper, spring kits, trigger, ect.
>>77554301
Laws are magic!
>>77554428
>still need the upper, spring kits, trigger, ect.
Which you can buy online at any age. The part you print out is literally the only piece that you would need to have sent to a FFL if you bought it through the mail.
>>77554301
The powers that be cannot possibly allow this to happen. Cheap, widely-available firearms is a tyrant's worst nightmare.
What will the kikes do to stop this? Ban 3D printers? Surely they will go for something more subtle.
>>77554301
that's a lower receiver not an upper. it is significantly less susceptible to the stresses of firing a weapon....
Hopefully, your country isn't a violent shithole where people will all use the chance to craft all the guns they want and go on shooting sprees everywhere.
Oh wait, didn't see your ameriflag. Nevermind then.
>>77554301
This is fucking retarded. I can do all that without a 3d printer, it just makes it a lot easier if i want to spend fuck loads of money on a 3d printer that breaks often, requires programming and the plans to make something.....OR I could use common at home tools to make something semi decent or if i had a work shop with a lathe and other metal working tools something really nice. Fire arms are not black magic. Hell some are actually really simple. Even more so if you have a diagram of the parts and dimensions. Will they ban lathes? Hammers? A fucking table saw?
>>77554510
Could just buy an 80% lower online and mill it out with the included tools, still no ID required, plus who wants a shitty plastic lower?
>>77554569
Regardless, how do we stop people from manufacturing them? The Wilson kid has already made a number of "ghost guns" with his printer, and they work fine.
>>77554666
what is advances in 3d printing allowing metal.
>>77554666
>plus who wants a shitty plastic lower?
People who enjoy giving the finger to gun regulations?
>>77554301
Simple, we just ban Military Grade Plastic for civilian use. : ^)
does it shoot plastic too ?
Why aren't they protesting lathes and shit then?
>>77554614
>Hopefully, your country isn't a violent shithole
Hey Colombia, I hear your glass house shattering.
Industrial designer reporting in, that is image is blatantly false and fucking moronic too.
>>77554301
The only laws that could be in place would demand absolute control over the replication of items in your own home, which is a violation of privacy yet unimaginable. There is no argument to the end of guns without an insurmountable rise in legal restrictions to tie us all in minefields to prevent us legally from having guns.
Until you have the tools to destroy guns that can't be seen, that can't be found (I.E. tools that alter the atmosphere so guns and explosive material cannot ignite to start or blast, a future tech so advanced it's impossible to imagine steps toward in our timeline) laws that restrict guns will only force guns underground. The need for defense, security, and the moral belief in an armed citizenry to defy a corrupted government that is not for the people if needed, all are too strong in the American, and I'd say human psyche.
Until they can crush us all in spirit, guns will be available to all through the advance of technology, and only the most blinded authoritarian will look at that road of law/counter-action and not reflect on what their purpose as a representative of the people even is. The right of the armament of the common man is one that cannot, should not, and will not be expunged from us, despite social experiments in decadent European cul-de-sacs.
>>77554817
Like I said 80% lowers, look it up!
>>77554837
Some people are using 3D printers to make ammo.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/23/3d-printed-bullets_n_3322370.html
>>77554705
You can't. If someone wants one bad enough they will get it.
>>77554614
>flag
https://www.youtube.com/user/TweezerAddict/videos
You dont need a 3d printer.
>We are entering the freedom age
Can't wait, fampai.
>>77554301
What? You need a fucking license to do that. five fucking years in prison for doing that shit, not to mention if any search engine finds you looking for 3D printer blueprints AR15, they'll turn you right over to the FBI
>>77554795
Why print metal when there is cheap home CNC to machine metal?
>>77554929
Epic shitposting, Australia.
But no, seriously. You're wrong. People have been making 3D printed guns for several years now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DconsfGsXyA
Why 3D print it when you can buy a forged aluminum 80% lower for $100
Untraceable
>>77554929
not an argument. because you can watch youtube videos of it right now if you want
>>77554301
You do nothing and accept that fact that world is a dangerous place that no amount of regulation will ever change. Whole generation of fucking idiots who think they can regulate and control danger out of there lives rather than accept reality.
>>77554817
not the guy you quoted but the thing would be shit and unreliable, not to mention you need a very expensive printer in order to just print that one part and have it come out half decent.
Can I 3d print a Hayley Atwell love doll?
>>77554989
So then what do we do? What SHOULD be regulated and why?
>>77555173
Nothing should be regulated. Guns are great. Fuck off commie
>>77554637
Explosives are even easier and cheaper to make but criminals and mass shooters aren't very intelligent. Hell if you really wanted to get the high score you would just build incindiary quadcopters and fly them into apartment buildings. Crazy ppl will always have a way desu. The entire gun debate is a moot poin since you cam't legislate away violence.
>>77555038
>What? You need a fucking license to do that.
Not in the U.S., leaf. Making homemade guns for private use is 100% legal, as long as the guns aren't subjected to federal regulations (i.e. automatic weapons)
>>77555118
It depends. Watch the end of this documentary. The guy fired over 600 rounds from his AR-15 lower receiver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DconsfGsXyA
>>77554301
>"So what should we do, let everyone own whatever they want?"
yes?
let me get high in peace
My ar-15 is traceable.
Big deal.
>>77555228
>Explosives are even easier and cheaper
So should we repeal all prohibitions on explosives? Why or why not?
>>77554614
>United States: 12,253 intentional homicides in 2014, a rate of 3.9 per 100,000
>Colombia: 13,343 intentional homicides in 2014, a rate of 27.9 per 100,000
You're worse than us in both numbers and rate, get fucked Pablo.
>>77555038
>if any search engine finds you looking for 3D printer blueprints AR15
lol holy shit. Like you'd just and try have a look on Google and that's it? It's 2016! holy heck hahah
>things can be made by people
Wow, what a revelation.
I guess we can't illegalize anything now that we know that people can make things. How ever can we stop people from making things themselves? This has never been an issue in law enforcement and clearly we're breaking new ground here.
>>77555169
The real question is, can you 3d print a tulpa?
>>77555228
>incendiary quadcopters
>>77555395
Do people think the barrels, uppers, and various other parts aren't traceable? Sure, having an unmarked 80% lower is a good start, but I guarantee you they know who's buying the uppers, stocks, bolt carrier groups, etc.
I wouldn't even be surprised if they had a limited system for tracking firing pins.
>>77555397
The only reason that these people don't use explosives is the lack of intelligence. The law wouldn't stop them because the materials are comon household shit. Plus they're way deadlier. I actually prefer the mass shooting age where the body count is lower and you have a chance to defend yourself.
>>77555486
>posting a pic of squid
I should visit k more often again
>>77554301
Liberals are worried now because they concern themselves with trendy things. 3D printers are trendy.
Lathes and machine tools aren't, so it would never cross a liberal's mind that a gun could be built somewhere other than a licensed Obama-respecting factory
>>77554554
The printers take only highly specific cartridges of material which is stupid expensive and specific to the manufacturer and model.
They already did this with normal printers. Ink is nowhere near as expensive as they like to pretend.
#BAAAAA
>>77555653
So should we repeal prohibitions on explosives?
3d printed meme is retarded. You could make those parts on CNC all this time, what is the difference?
>>77554301
yeah maybe you can manufacture MOST of it
but no 3d printer can yet make you the chamber where detonation takes place, where the charge goes off
These people are control freaks
They're fucking dangerous
>>77555815
3D printers are expensive now.
Just like cellphones were at one time.
>>77554301
the same laws that are in place to stop someone from milling/ machining the parts in their garage/ work shop
>>77555341
The guy has a very expensive printer, and even then in the video he discusses issues he had in the quality and strength of the part with the given materials.It's ultimately cheaper and more practical to buy the part already made.
Having some experience with 3D printing at work you also realize that the material that printers use, especially the higher trims, are very expensive.
>>77555924
>yet
Operative word.
Good thing you can buy a full upper using cash without having to present ID.
>>77555924
I agree. Though given the fact that 3D printers can now manufacture candy, medicine, and even human tissue, it isn't outside the realm of reality for them to eventually manufacture gunpowder.
And even if that isn't the case, how do we effectively regulate ammo?
>>77554857
They don't know what a lathe is.
>>77556050
>It's ultimately cheaper and more practical to buy the part already made.
I agree, but that's not the point. 3D printers are becoming more popular, which means they will eventually become affordable and more advanced. When that happens, people who want guns will be able to simply make them by pushing a button. How do we prevent this?
>>77555038
;^)
>>77556197
>tfw I have no fucking idea what I'm looking at
I wish I knew how to build shit.
>>77555080
>posting Vice shit
>MUH PRINTED GUNZZ
Nah cunt, all he's printing is the lowers via stereolithography which like he said in the video you can carve out of wood. There are many components which cannot be printed which you would either have to have machined or take from an actual gun and even then an entirely 3D printed gun will be weak and brittle, usuable only once or twice before it disintegrates. The technology is just not there yet and high enough resolution printers for what he's doing now cost thousands of dollars. I've got the CAD files, maybe one day but at the moment it's just more leftist retardation.
>>77555173
muslims and niggers
self evident.
>>77556334
Learn nigga. If you own property it is imperative you build a pole barn building and make it into a workshop. Tools are a great investment.
>>77556397
>There are many components which cannot be printed which you would either have to have machined or take from an actual gun
Oh, so basically things that can be bought online and shipped to your door? Good to know. So i guess your point...wait, did you have one?
>The technology is just not there yet and high enough resolution printers for what he's doing now cost thousands of dollars.
It's not there yet in the sense that the devices are not common or cheap. But it will get to that point. Remember VCRs?
>>77555102
Because most people cant handle a carbide end mill
>>77555038
What are they going to do, prosecute individuals for violating a treaty?
>>77556562
I know how to do basic shit to an automobile, but where do you even start learning to actually build things? You can't possibly know every skill(wiring, metalwork, carpentry, plumbing, etc). Do you just choose one, and buy a book or something?
I think it's possible to make firearm at home with what you can buy in store.
But to make it out of solid material and having good enough characteristic, you have to make it on factory.
>>77554301
Just force the barrels to have the same status as the lower. Barrels are near impossible to print. You need multimillion dollar metal printing machines, and the slightest imperfection could cause it to explode.
Fuck all this larping about 3D printers, anyone with $50 can make a gun out of some iron pipes at home depot with no cad files or multimillion dollar machines.
The household printers make plastic or other weak matterials. I got 3D printed brass shit and it crumbled because the layers don't stick together well. A barrel is totally betond home 3D pronters now and the foreseable future.
>>77556902
You just learn elementary stuff for everything then get deeper into which ones you like. Anon, did you have a dad? Be honest...
>>77557029
barrels can be made and rifled with less than $200 in equipment and materials
go to /k/
>>77554301
No one is going to invest in a fucking plastic rifle. It would become unusable after like 5 rounds
>>77557077
>Do I have a dad
Of course. I didn't say I'm incapable of using tools. I can fix basic shit, but I feel like I just lack the creative drive to actually build stuff.
>>77554795
still inferior to forged lowers
>>77556902
Books, internet and community college. I am on the pell grant and a state grant. They pay me to go to college. I dont even plan on getting a degree. I just go for skills and to learn. All on the tech side. No bullshit social studies crap.
>>77557246
Most things have instructions anon
>>77557196
>No one is going to invest in a fucking plastic rifle. It would become unusable after like 5 rounds
Yeah, whatever you say...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAW72Y_XPF4
>>77557295
I don't think you understand. The issue isn't quality, it's availability.
>>77557186
From a 3D printer that you can afford at home? $1000-$5000 total cost?
I can get and make barrels cheap wnough but I didn't think 3D printers were the easiest way to get them by a mile.
>>77556689
Places you can buy bolt carriers, barrels, hammers easily would have loose gun laws anyway which negates the fucking point or you could just CNC machine it, which likely no shop would do if they knew you were home making guns.
>>77557029
This guy gets it
>>77557313
That's what I did. Robotics.
>>77554301
YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A GUN
>>77554301
BAN ASSAULT PRINTERS
>>77556397
It's different for the seppos mate. The only part of a gun that constitutes as a firearm for the sake of national firearms sales and transport laws are trigger housing unit of a gun. For the AR-15, this is the lower receiver. This means the barrel, bolt control group and the rest of the upper receiver can be purchased without any background check. By the creating the 'firearm' yourself you've made a 'ghost' gun that no federal firearms licensed dealer confirm to have sold to you due to the lack of any 4473 form that has been signed.
>>77557352
Yeah because: Receiver=whole 3D printed gun kek
>>77557500
ENI. Electrical diagnostics. Motors, motor starters, wiring and actually some hydrolic stuff, tubes, meters, pressure, flow dynamics etc. Mostly into the electrical stuff.
>>77557352
>just the lower
>>77557196
Tell that to Glock, FN, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNCOLGOF3Dk
According to the creator, there's been over 800 rounds through this one.
>>77557620
It's the only part that is regulated. The rest of the components you can order in the mail.
Or at least we can :)
>>77557714
Well then there is absolutely no way the barrel is plastic
>>77554301
Why the fuck is there a p90 magazine upside down on top off the barrel
>>77557652
Same here basically. Had to do all that. A Robotics degree differed from an Electronics degree by 4 classes where I went.
>>77557713
A 1o year old can buy a barrel online and have it shipped to his doorstep. The lower is literally the only component subjected to a form 4473.
It's not about just "banning" things, people can always get guns in some way or another.
It's about changing the gun culture. If you shit on gun rights, stop selling them in stores and so on, new generations will increasingly get away from guns.
By the time 3D printers become popular, gun fanatics will be 5/10% of the entire population at most. It's already like that, gun ownership overall is going down even without making shit illegal. And the more mass shootings will be, the more pressure there will be (socially) on not buying that shit
Besides, you'll have VR porn and legalized weed soon so most neets who do mass shootings will be occupied.
Why 3d print when you can just make a slapgun?
>>77554301
Jared the pedo sandwich guy now prints guns?!
>>77554301
>"So what should we do, let everyone own whatever they want?"
That's the point
Warfairy one of the major players in making the first 3d printed gun that only requires a nail to work has posted on /k/ before talking about it.
>>77554301
why does he have a bag over the magazine?
ban assault printers
>>77557795
Forgot pic
>>77557946
oh whoa it uses p90 mags and catches the brass in the bag?
>>77557890
>new generations will increasingly get away from guns.
Yeah, don't count on it. Availability due to technology is only going to make them more popular.
>>77554301
I think some people are giving the state of the art more ability than it's capable of, at least for people that don't have really deep pockets. Guns still have a lot of metal in them and 3d printers that are affordable to Joe Average work in plastic.
It's like when people were flipping out about the early Glocks, that were saying that the plastic guns would be undetectable.
I'm sure authorities and those with an axe to grind will use hyperbole and outright lies to put out their narrative and scare the uneducated.
>wait, what? you mean lies and bullshit are told in other places besides /pol/?
>>77558086
Trust me, peer pressure works way more than technology and legislation.
Look at the numbers of how alcohol and cigarette use have been going down recently.
>>77558175
Instead of insulting you I'll ask you a question. Think about it before you answer.
How do the bullets get fed into the gun if the magazine is upside down?
>>77558394
I'm thinking that it's either fake or it's to show what magazines it uses
>>77556902
You can though
My dad's a beaner and that nigga is licensed in plumbing, carpentry, electrical shit and can draw out blueprints.
Just gotta commit yourself anon.
>>77554301
If you take a fucking 1x1 mm slide from a piece of US currency, and try to scan it, the scanner will throw up an error. If you take a picture of us currency, cut out 99.9% of it, and try to drag it in to photoshop, it will throw up an error.
You really fucking think that they couldnt hardwire gun restrictions on 3D printers? Fucking idiot.
>>77558295
>Look at the numbers of how alcohol and cigarette use have been going down recently
I seriously question those stats. Teenagers may claim they "don't smoke" but they frequently do it socially. And drinking seems to be more popular than ever. But who knows?
That being said, your simplistic solutions when it comes to "shitting" on gun culture will be met with failure. Enjoy your glory days, because they're coming to a close. Gun control activists are similar to anti-pornography activists during the Reagan years. Basically, your movement is dying due to rapid changes in technology. You don't see people demanding a ban on the sale of Hustler magazine because now you can just print it from your home. See where I'm going with this?
>>77554301
>Halting technological progress
That's going to work out.
>>77559113
>You really fucking think that they couldnt hardwire gun restrictions on 3D printers? Fucking idiot.
Yes, that is what I am telling you. Because there is no possible way that you can prevent a every 3D printer from printing out firearm components.
>>77559496
You might be able to prevent any website of hosting the data file necessary to make gun components though.
>>77559654
Didn't the Justice Department try that already? The files can still be found online. They were downloaded thousands of times in many different countries. I think it's great.
>>77554301
>>77556861
Niiiiiiice. I had >>77556325 this one. Didn't know there was another one around for the liberator style pistol.
>>77555895
Don't be an idiot, read what he said. It doesn't matter if there's a prohibition or not because you can easily make them.
>>77560389
>I want a civil war
>I'm not actually willing to participate in the civil war
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why the Yankees have no chance in Civil War 2.0. They're pusified to the point where they can't imagine personally putting their lives on the line for something they believe in.
>>77560389
>willingly giving up rights
It never ceases to amaze me how everyone constantly talks about living in a police state yet they want to make more things illegal.
>>77560389
Wonder why so many left-wingers are also sociopaths with delusions of grandeur
>>77554301
BAN PLASTIC
>>77561096
I am a yankee. But fuck these liberal cunt rags. They won't shut the fuck up and have nothing more to say than "my feelings".
>>77554301
you can't print gunpowder
>>77561296
It's because they think they're nothing, but they can use government power to feel important.
>>77555173
have an IQ test, then an empathy test
have the empathy test given more than once
to make sure psychopaths can't aquire weapons.
>>77554301
>So what should we do, let everyone own whatever they want?
Yes, most people aren't fucking criminals and don't turn into them just because they have a tool that might give them the courage.
>>77554614
>read shitpost
>see flag
thanks for the kek
Obviously the answer is making 3d printers require registering and send data about everything you print to the police
Nothing to hide right?
>>77561608
There are literally billions of functional cartridges still in circulation in the US.
>>77561096
>Anti gun nuts flaunting the idea of a civil war
Seriously what reality do these people live in
>>77555228
> build incindiary quadcopters and fly them into apartment buildings
I now have mental pictures of miniature Team America 9/11 reenactments...
>>77554614
Says Colombia
kek
>>77554837
yes, they shoot only plastic bullets
gun monkeys are quite proud of their effect on paper targets
>>77562174
>When your country is so violent and shitty even Mexico makes fun of you
Kek
>>77554554
the chiners are bout to let loose on cheap 3d printers
3d priners at walmart
3d print booths at lowes
3d printing errywhere
>>77557352
That vid is beautiful
