hey guys, american in the IDF here
give me 10 reasons why israel isn't our greatest ally?
[spoiler] you can't give me one [/spoiler]
>>77452476
they spy on your government
they steal military and technological secrets
they forcibly occupy sovereign territory and commit war crimes
>>77452596
that's only 3 reasons and they're either untrue or half-truths
because they're
1) jews
2) jews
3) jews
4) jews
5) jews
6) jews
7) jews
8) jews
9) jews
10) jews
>>77452476
What do they give us?
>>77452863
power, strength, religion, resolve, technology, etc i could go on... still, where's your 10 reasons? couldn't even come up with one?
>>77452928
>power, strength, religion, resolve
lol okay fag, have fun shitposting
>>77452476
>>77452476
>keep your friends close but your enemies closer.
>>77447677
>>77452476
I thought about doing what you're doing. I'm Jewish ancestrally but not religiously, so it would never have panned out.
Respect though.
There's no real point in posting threads like this here though pal. Unless you're just trying to trigger /pol/ by saying "look I'm a tough jewish guy".
/pol/ also has a hard time articulating itself, you know as well as I do that the liberal jews are idiots who don't care about Israel in the slightest, because they don't have practical minds. You also should know that there are elitest Jews who control and have a lot of power, Hollywood, etc.
But that's not even the Jews that they are ultimately talking about in /pol/
The Jews we're talking about are the ones that are tied to people like Albert Pike, these "Jews" who aren't like you and me, believe that they are descended from Charlemagne and they further believe that Charlemagne himself is descended from Jesus and Mary Magdelene(which would mean they are of the line of David)
I think if you have any understanding of scripture you will see the implications, but if not I'll explain.
>>77453096
Besides stormfags, there are many somewhat reasonable people on /pol. They are interesting to talk with, but you should create a room to talk first. Stormfags try to ignore everything that may redpill them on Jews, so they're avoiding such threads.
>>77453096
thanks bro.
no, i'm not trying to trigger /pol/. i frequent /pol/ every day or so, i'm pretty conservative myself.
i've just been seeing a lot of anti-israel rhetoric here, so i'm just trying to figure out what the gripe is. i want people to realize that israel is an important ally, the only democracy in a sea of arab sandpits.
WoW this post is absolutely made by
>>77452476
Israel isn't an US ally because alliances are bidirectional. But this relationship is unidirectional as the US get no benefits whatsoever from Israel. So technically the USA are a vassal of Israel.
>>77452476
Israel is full of Jews
Jews are the people who control every aspect of American industry, and are solely responsible for the abhorrent social changes we've seen over the past 100 years.
Israel is our greatest enemy, as are all Jews across the globe.
(/pol/ is satire btw)
Half of me wants to say they can be useful in the combat against the muzzies, the other half of me says they wouldn't do jack shit
Can you give me one reason they are?
>>77452476
USS Liberty
That's the only reason we need
>>77453273
>i've just been seeing a lot of anti-israel rhetoric here, so i'm just trying to figure out what the gripe is. i want people to realize that israel is an important ally, the only democracy in a sea of arab sandpits.
They hate the elitist Jews, so what a shock when Israel gets bunched up with that.
That's all it is.
It's just a hierarchy of "using" people really.
If you're smart then you know that there's a Globalist hierarchy.
If you read Albert Pikes letter it becomes clear, especially considering that it was written in 1870.
Look at this.
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4
>>77452476
>burger flag
>american in the IDF here
IP and therefore flag is assigned by location and not by person. Kill yourself.
>>77452596
Add USS Liberty to that list
Sorry Ezra, but we're with Russia now
Americans and their muslim nigger are not loyal
Hillary will be even worse
>>77453463
>abhorrent social changes over the past 100 years
I presume you believe universal suffrage, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and civil rights are bad things then?
>>77453273
The Middle East would not be half as unstable as it is today if Israel was never created.
9/11 would not have occurred if Israel did not exist.
No doubt the US would be fucking around in the Middle East for its own self interest even if Israel did not exist, but nit to the current level precisely because it is no longer in the best interest of the US i.e. the animosity and terror attacs are not worth what ever supposed benefit the US gets fro 'spreading democracy'
The only nation that benefits from US foreign policy is Israel and thats why we hate you kikes.
>>77453242
The rabbit hole is always deeper.
>>77453608
oy vey, we shot a spy ship after we warned it to stay away
>>77453051
seems to be in front of it tbqh stupidface
>>77453096
I think you are an insane person and should seek help.
>>77453722
of course.
these are all just tools of the capitalists to exploit and enslave the working masses.
if you can't see that, you must be blind.
>>77453782
I wouldn't even bother defending the USS Liberty incident.
"We did what we thought we needed to" is a fine response in my book.
>>77453486
are you serious?
israel has been proving themselves against Palestinian terrorists since long before 1947 (and we still are). as a matter of fact, most of the time, we're the only ones fighting Islamic terror in the region.
>>77453553
yeah i can buy some of it, like i said i'm a frequent /pol/ reader. like there's some elitist jewery that is certainly involved in some sus shit, but the vast majority of jews (myself included), and for the most part the state of israel, aren't part of this hypothesised "global jew cabal"
>>77453581
i've already signed enlistment papers and will be flying to israel for basic after my summer break
>>77453757
9/11 was the responsibility of islamic terrorists, we all know that. don't give me that conspiracy "MA JUICE DID DER 9/11" bullshit
>>77452476
>>77453273
>i've just been seeing a lot of anti-israel rhetoric here, so i'm just trying to figure out what the gripe is.
Assuming you're being sincere, then I appreciate you wanting some honest input. So here it is:
I absolutely believe Israel should in principle exist, and that Jews have a right to self determination and to preserve their religion, culture, and ethnicity.
The problem with Israel is two things:
1. - While I believe Israel should exist, I have a fucking huge problem with Israeli dual citizens from AIIPAC using billions of dollars to bribe our congressmen to go to war after war for Israel attacking countries that would otherwise be no threat to use (Syria, Iraq, Iran, etc.), and wasting trillions of American tax dollars and thousands of American lives to do so.
2. - Palestinians deserve the same right to self determination and preservation of their identity that Israelis do, and a two-state solution is the fix for this.
>but Palestinian leaders are being assholes and won't agree to terms
I know, both sides are being assholes, but Palestine as its own state needs to happen.
>>77452476
Do you piss your pants at any sign of combat, or is that just the jews?
>>77453782
Yeah an ally wouldn't do that, thanks for proving my point dumb kike
>>77453677
That may be your last mistake. Bald midget is backstabber, he will sell you to Arabs if they'll pay enough.
>>77453334
Intelligence. US base and ally in all senses and military needs. Indirect US power that can operate "on its own" without blame falling on the US.
Represents US interests in the area in what ever way necessary.
>>77453806
They're the ones who believe it, not me.
Think about it faggot, if there is a Globalist conspiracy, Jews would undoubtedly be at the heart of it. Jews are at the heart of everything for good or bad, because it's through the Jews that the Law originated in the first place.
>>77453885
we have became allies only after the Six Day War.
>>77452596
>they forcibly occupy sovereign territory
at least 4 bigger arab countries tried to exterminate them then
goys like to forget how much they had to fight just to survive
>>77452476
>>77453677
fuck oath she will be, what I have been trying to tell yall in Israel.
>you need to lay the bitchslap down on your lefties mate they are running wild.
She'll bend over for the muzzies and cast Israel aside.
>I have always said atleast we can wine and dine the hebrews and have competition in business... not with the muzzies though.
>>77453757
You cant know what would have happened moron. Keep having the brain of a 10 year old though.
>>77453916
just like Obama, Putin is still better.
>>77453855
>yeah i can buy some of it, like i said i'm a frequent /pol/ reader. like there's some elitist jewery that is certainly involved in some sus shit, but the vast majority of jews (myself included), and for the most part the state of israel, aren't part of this hypothesised "global jew cabal"
They aren't really Jews even, that's the whole point.
You're a Jew. I'm a Jew.
But these people are monsters who see it as a game.
Liberal Jews will always be foolish pro-palestine faggots who don't understand the immense scale on which the importance of Israel is rightfully placed.
>>77453486
we're literally the only nation doing anything against the mud-folk right now pham
>>77452476
Fuck you kike.
>>77453553
how can you even blame 1% of jews for this type of stuff?
do you honestly believe the average jew is involved in global conspiracies?
>>77452476
because they are filthy kikes, end of story, if it's a kike it's an enemy.
>>77452476
America in the IDF?
Is this shit real?
Want to switch places?
>>77452476
Israel isn't our greatest ally be we are indeed Israel's greatest ally.
>>77454085
>do you honestly believe the average jew is involved in global conspiracies?
Read what I wrote.
I just said the opposite.
>how can you even blame 1% of jews for this type of stuff?
Not even blaming 1%, even less than that. But they are there. Manipulators.
>>77454031
pretty much spot on, exactly.
took the words out of my mouth.
those rich hollywood lib jews are the biggest supporters of islamic "freedom fighters" the world over. these are the people advocating for the overthrow of western society.
>>77453096
fuck off kike, can't wait for communities to unite dispite your destruction of it and collectively toss you all to the desert, semite sand nigger.
>>77454133
Its real. I almost joined.
>>77454031
Leftist Jews aren't welcomed both in Israel and in goyim countries. Some people claim that they might be the worst antisemites than actual neonazi or Arabs, because they got a huge influence on Jewish state AND diaspora. I don't think there is a way to get rid of them.
Exactly theres a VERY good reason we must ensure Israel exists.
I won't get into the specifics but it has to do with the concepts of good and evil.
>we cannot allow it to be overrun by barbarians, We must put down the barbs in our lands and then turn to Israel and say "excuse me but your lefties are being criminals might want to look into that"
>>77454178
brown sand niggers don't belong in white country.
>>77454146
your meme does not make sense
>>77454227
racial Jews aren't welcome in my racial state.
>>77454178
That's not how it's going to end.
>>77454160
The Rich Hollywood lib Jews are puppets the same way that niggers are puppets from the lib Jews.
Rabbit hole always goes deeper.
>>77453722
>universal suffrage
Terrible idea brought about in the 20th century and highly Jew influenced. If women couldn't vote we would not have all the emotional pandering seen in politics today.
>freedom of speech
Brilliant idea of the Enlightenment period, minimal Jew influence
>Freedom of the press
Less solid idea and as such comes with a bunch of exceptions even in the US. Tied closely to freedom of speech but can be exploited. Minimal Jew influence
>cival rights
Terrible idea from which all the current minority issues in the US can be tied back to. Basically black lives/conditions were slowly but consistently improving until the civil rights movement. Been in decline ever since. Good example of cultural marxism at work. HIGHLY Jew influenced.
>>77454001
what is Obama doing that's so bad? it's not even close
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Hezbollah-commanders-say-Russia-directly-arming-them-with-long-range-missiles-441124
>>77454292
it's going to end with war.
Your right, really makes you think.
>>77454227
Sadly, you're right.
There is no way to get rid of them. It's Jews like them that spawned faggots like Marx.
>>77454280
What meme? I just stated Israel isn't a real significant ally like compared to France and Britain. But the United States is the greatest ally Israel has.
There is no other country more powerful than the United States that is allied with Israel.
>>77454341
Oh I had no idea, thanks for telling me.
>>77454204
Then don't fucking do it.
What jobs can they even give you and why not go to the us army?
>>77454335
Dont listen to israelis. Most are morons or edgelords.
Jews hate the west.
Jews hate Christians.
Jews hate whites.
Jews love Muslims
Jews love dindus
Jews love spreading Muslims
Jews hate the world.
Jews are the reason the world is burning.
There is nothing good about jews.
Once you kill America and there is 2 billion screaming Muslims charging for you then maybe you'll change your tune.
>>77454422
He might really like the Tavor
we cannot descend to the arab and jew level or the goy level.
We cannot allow them to be punished for the sins of their anscestors.
>they have plenty of their own crimes.
>>77454422
If I join a branch of the U.S. Military I'll go airforce.
I thought about joining IDF because I care about Israel.
>>77454490
>caring about israel
>>77454422
i'm joining the IDF because although i was raised in an orthodox household i kind of just did it as a chore and never really connected with my heritage.
i agree with the israeli cause and i plan to make aliyah and do my duty to israel in the IDF
>>77454460
how can I even argue with some dude who makes shit up as he speaks?
>>77454335
Obama has given Iran an official approval for bomb in 14 years from now.
>>77454577
funny t shirt lol I like it
>>77454394
Obama = USA
>>77452476
>american in the IDF here
no proof.
in the trash it goes.
sage this nigger good
>>77454593
Are you Jewish?
>>77454460
Youre pants on head retarded mate
>>77454300
I wasn't saying that all these changes were promulgated by Jews, I was just saying that society has changed largely for the better over the past 100 years. I know you're trying to emulate some ultra-traditionalist conservative, but you can't honestly believe that the full enfranchisement of women and blacks were bad decisions. It is a basic tenet of democracy and natural law that all people are equal before the law (even if they are not equal in other respects)
>>77454614
What a kike
>aliya
You mean 'yerida' amirite?
(Going down)
Israeli Flags
Can you explain your thoughts on these 2 videos for me ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40-jeectGKQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5USX24h-1qc
>>77454638
Can you disprove one thing I said?
>>77454665
Yeah, Only a Kike could delight in the murder of children. It's in your blood.
That's another reason everyone hates you
>>77454728
Technically, yes,
Probably a fake convert by genes
>>77454577
on the left: snipers division
on the right: smaller; harder!
Also some interesting information that Hebrews might find useful.
>they are trying to slide it to archive keep it bumped.
>>77447677
>>77454675
>Implying
Just because Obama doesn't like Israel doesn't mean the United States isn't allies with Israel. You act like being president makes you king of the country.
>>77453855
I never claimed Israel did 9/11
I'm simply stating that one of Osamas main motivations was the US support of Israel and by extention their intervention in regional conflicts in the middle east. This is easily verifiable and so I think its fair to say that if Israel didn't exist then 9/11 would not have happened.
>>77454000
You can't know for certain but if you understand the motivation for US foreign policy (destabilise region for protection of Israel) and how this motivation feeds the motivation of radical Islamists then you can certainly make educated guesses.
If Israel did not exist then the US would be backing regimes in the Middle East that could keep their population under control and work favorably with the US in terms of trade. This isn't some wild theory, its geopolitics 101.
However because Israel feels threatened by having strong neighbors the US destroys these regimes, throughing the region into chaos and creating anti Amerian sentiment, which in turn leads to terrorist attacks.
>>77452476
>L I T E R A L L Y fighting for israel
>>77452596
>war crimes against dune coons
This is a reason they are *not* our ally?
>>77454920
he has exceeded his capacity as president and is acting just like a king.
>why do you think people call him King Obama ?
Can you defend this ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=tHBRshQtexw&feature=youtu.be
>>77452476
Why should any American give a shit about you faggots?
>>77454836
>jews hate the west
perhaps some of them, the eastern european jews in particular like russian jews etc I wouldn't doubt it
>jews hate christians
perhaps a small minority of ultra-orthodox jews
>jews hate whites
in reality most jews consider themselves to literally fucking be white
>jews love muslims
are you just straight up fucking retarded or baiting?
>jews love dindus
they get racist attacks and they get called kushi (nigger) regularly in israel
>jews love spreading muslims
yeah, spreading them with missiles on the desert floor like fucking peanut butter
>>77454724
They don't look like Palestinians, but it still makes me an erection.
>>77452476
>american
cunt, you aren't american. get back to your zog overlords, faggot.
>>77454646
it's race between war and them getting overthrown in a revolution, look at Iran's demographics they're just getting younger
meanwhile they're being watched
Wow the jidf is really well prepared today
>>77452476
I have thought for a year or two that we are on our way toward a new crusade, where people from all over the world will be looking for an army to join just to legitimize the slaughter of Muslims. Not implying that's a bad thing either.
For a long time I've thought that we'll see people joining the IDF to build up a force strong enough for a showdown with ISIS. Is any of it true or am I living in a dream world?
>>77455015
>>77455015
>>>77454836 (You)
>>jews hate the west
>perhaps some of them, the eastern european jews in particular like russian jews etc I wouldn't doubt it
Why are jews doing everything in their power to destroy it?
>>jews hate christians
>perhaps a small minority of ultra-orthodox jews
Pfft
>>jews hate whites
>in reality most jews consider themselves to literally fucking be white
Can we say cucks?
>>jews love muslims
>are you just straight up fucking retarded or baiting?
Why are they fighting for the wholesale spread of Islam to the west?
>>77455020
Never Forget Saint Simon Of Trent
>>77455088
RARE
Sup Zambia guy. How the fuck did you find 4chinz?
>>77454868
then why do you stay here?
there is no reason to stay here in your condition.
Jews cannot be trusted.
>>77455001
>why do you think people call him King Obama?
Because he throws a tantrum when he doesn't get his way thinking he is a king but doesn't have the power to enact his rule. If he was truly a king he would have already got rid of gun ownership and forced a lot more shit.
>>77455336
Soon...
730 pazam days left in the army
>>77454868
Kek. You actually act just like a Jew, Biblicaly speaking
>Doesn't want to fight for his people
>Hates Israel despite being an Israeli
Typical Jewish behavior that Moses had to deal with.
>>77455290
I'm not rare, dude. Uncommon at best now
>>77455275
>>77455370
he has signed executive orders to start taking weapons just the people he is ordering to do it are refusing.
>>77455532
>why else would there be an immigration crisis ?
>>77454764
Women have a different role in society to men and therefore should have different legal protections and liberties.
Of course all women should have access to the fundamentals i.e. free speech, pursuit of happiness and education however their privileges should reflect their role i.e. can't vote (legal) can't hold certain positions in society (maybe not by the letter of the law, but the culture should uphold this).
In return the are allowed other privileges i.e. can't be drafted, alimony if their husband leaves them, widow pention, prioritised as the guardian of children in case of divorce etc
As for civil rights, I believe all races should be equal under law, however the civil rights movement derailed the progress the US was making towards that point because it was taken over and manipulated by cultural marxist Jews. One of the worst things to happen to African Americans since slavery.
>>77455532
>>77455549
>(((Invasion*)))
>>77455487
Bro, why in god's name would anyone from Zambia even visit here.
Are you an American shitposter or did you get lost on the way to the copper mine?
>>77455463
>his
>not for long
>>77455630
Why not ?
Wow /pol/ really has changed
Or maybe it's just summer.
I remember when /pol/ could hate kikes and mudslimes at the same time and be both rational and confident in their beliefs. It was a time when everyone in this thread would have been in agreement, except for OP of course, although he would most likely have been a baiter he hated kikes as much as the rest of us.
I'm feeling pretty defeated right now, I hope your happy Jews and shills
>>77455633
>>77455942
There's no escape from them. Kikes are everywhere. Facebook,YouTube,Google+, etc
Now even 4chan ;_;
Ich kann das nicht mehr mein Kamerad
>Mfw /pol/ is becoming pro-Israel
>Mfw watching new fags agreeing with Kikes here that the holocaust was real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khWSuMqnj5c&list=WL&index=19 [Embed] [Embed]
Auf Wiedersehen
>>77455942
I actually feel as if we ruined this place.
I hated everyone here, but it was much more fun to browse here.
>>77455974
https://youtu.be/qheF-K-kMKk
>>77456081
>adding fuel to the fire ruins the fire.
No.
>>77453334
More like
>Israel is a parasite to the US
>>77456081
Why /pol is so vulnerable when it comes to Jews? It feels like we could ruin this place simply by reading their posts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HErr_CmU1Z8
>>77452476
