Is this a bad argument, /pol/?
>captcha: 2016
this is a great argument for deregulating cars.
>>77417888
Cars kill a lot more people than guns do, though.
>>77417841
Guns are more important than cars.
>>77417841
Why did they make two separate columns the that say the exact same thing?
>>77417841
Too bad driving isn't a right guaranteed in the constitution.
>>77417841
Remember horse and sword control back in the 1200's?
Neither do I.
>>77417841
I love the part of the 2nd ammendment where they talk about cars
It's all clear now...
We need to ban cars too!
>>77417841
>Not posting the number of deaths compared to guns.
The only thing this proves is that if guns were as regulated as cars then more people would die based on its own stupid logic.
>>77418048
>>77418161
Why are constitutionalists so impossible to talk to? You're like militant religious zealots. No matter what happens or what anyone says, you can only counter with "muh constitution" or "muh amendments".
And before you attack me, know that I'm not taking a stance that agrees or disagrees with either you or the op, I'm just wondering why you can't reasonably defend your view point without pointing at your holy text.
>>77417841
Been waiting to post this.
>>77417841
That goes both ways.
>>77418048
>>77418755
Actually, right to travel is guaranteed. "Gun's" aren't specifically permitted in the constitution, it's "right to bear arms".
>>77417841
I think we are too restrictive on vehicles though. It's fucking bullshit.
>>77418755
Because that paper is the rules that our government must follow if you don't like it get your senator to try and ratified but good luck
It's only bad argument because I bet if cars were around in the 1780s and they were important to everyday life as they are now the guys who wrote the constitution probably would have made them a protected right.
>>77420136
So do I.
>>77418755
Because any leader who wants to violate a countries constitution should be sentenced to death for treason.
If you want to have those laws go somewhere else that doesn't have the right to bear arms. Like Canada.
>>77418755
Because it's the only thing that protects us from faggots like you that want to take away our freedoms. I have the right to bear arms. Use them arms to protect myself from all enemies foreign and domestic.
If you don't want the protection of the Constitution, get out.
>>77417841
It's a good thing that heavily regulated car ownership has actually removed the threat of assault car incidents.
Wait, shit, more people are dying in car accidents than guns every year. When are we going to start banning cars?
>>77417841
Those are only the restrictions for driving in public. In many states you need those same restrictions to carry a gun in public.
> IF CARS WERE REGULATED LIKE GUNS
"Long distance commutes being necessary for the modern economy, the right of the people to keep and operate cars shall not be infringed"
>>77420308
Travel doesn't require cars.
arms
noun
weapons; armaments.
Arms is a broader term, you have the right to guns, to cannons, to swords.
>>77417841
Nobody prevents me from buying a Ferrari or other fast car, why can't I buy a machine gun?
>>77420308
Nigga, that is soverein citizen talk. I am not even american and know that the "right to travel" means you arent supposed to be bound to some place, like forced by someone (that is not the government, they can arrest you) to stay by force.
If you are traveling on car or by foot, that is totally up for the actual laws
>>77417841
>Is this a bad argument, /pol/?
If those were the only regulations then I'd be able to acquire and possess my guns without a license as long as I only used them on private property.
You don't need a license to own a car. You need a license to drive on public roads.
>>77420775
Wouldn't it be vehicles instead of cars?
>>77417841
>>77419555
underrated, checked, and saved.
>>77419555
Nice.
>>77418755
Coming as someone who also think constitutionalists are faggots, I really do think it's necessary to keep the population armed. The threat of tyranny is still very real, and seeing the shit that passes over in Europe is hilarious. You can guarantee no one's going to go to jail just for sharing extreme opinions with the threat of armed retaliation from the same people that regurgitate that old mantra "muh constitutional rights" with that beautiful guaranteed American brand free speech.
>>77417841
"A well regulated NASCAR, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Cars, shall not be infringed."
>>77420851
That's my point, it's a broad term.
I can arm myself with a sword instead of a gun.
I can travel on a bicycle instead of a car.
We would be pissed if they banned the use of cars.
>>77417841
I wish bicycles where as regulated as cars. Can we start pushing that instead?
>>77418755
Will you pay the premium in taxes to place an armed police officer outside of my wharehouse???
I have a truck yard in Atlanta GA... I can't go home at night without unhooking the batteries from all 5 of my rigs... I was threatened twice by fuckin niggers at knife-point closing and leaving.
The police can't be here every night to escort me home.
That's why I pack... And I have brandished my weapon to keep these animals away.
Will you and every American pay the premium to put armed professional/government controlled security outside of my wharehouse every night?
And if you are willing, will you bitch every time that security official shoots a nigger?
Fuck off!
>>77420851
>>77421274
to correct myself the constitution on travel if written like the 2nd amendment would probably say "right to pilot vehicles" or something like that
>>77417841
Cars are more dangerous that guns though
>>77421504
Furthermore... Would you like to live in a world where there is an armed security officer on every street corner??
>>77419555
Underrated. Nice trips. Gun grabbers BTFO.
>>77417841
Driving is not a right.
Baring arms is.
You anti car people always post this shit. We don't need to ban all cars just automatic cars.
>>77420630
Inalienable rights are to modern jurisprudence as muskets are to nuclear weapons. It's a fucking joke that we're adhering to such an out of date document while on the cusp of a technological singularity. It's like reading the Bible as literal truth off of a smartphone.
>>77421769
Soros feels weak, it's the only explanation for this spilling of spaghetti right now, time to shut down the congress, write letters, make calls, especially to these democrats who want a holocaust here in America,
these assholes need to go
they're filibustering now,
>>77417955
>guns kill people
>>77418755
>You're like militant religious zealots.
>holy text
you would only think that if you'd never read the federalist papers, and had no idea why the COTUS is so flawless. you're literally just saying, "i cannot discern between the two... and that is your fault."
you sit there totally fucking clueless, asking us to reiterate why 1+1=2, and then wonder why you get a curt answer.
you have no excuse. shit's all online. read constitution.org before posting in another such thread.
all of it.
>>77417841
Following your logic then yes that is a bad argument. Cars are well regulated but 50 thousand people a year die here in the USA. Way more than the number killed by guns
>>77420851
>need
kys
>>77417841
If Immigrants from places hostile to the US were as regulated as cars
>>77417841
There's no "right to drive" you faggot.
>>77420775
I am a constitutional scholar. The founders were impying that Cars are only for commutes not private citizens!
Well regulated bus drivers can drive cars you dont have a RIGHT to own one
>>77417841
>Sell guns like cars.
I'm pretty OK with that OP.
>>77421867
This. You don't need anything more than a manual.
>>77421900
Suck a niggers dick you faggot. Go move to some shithole in Africa and tell me how progressive and awesome it is since we live in such an enlightened age. Oh, no guns btw im sure you'll be alrite mate.
>>77418755
Constitution is not meant to bend cunt.
>>77421900
>living document
>out of date
How about trying to update it?
Oh, wait, that's because most people still feel the Second Amendment is relevant. Huh.
>>77422461
well is there a right to 30-round detachable magazines? or do i have to painstakingly load one round at a time into a tube, flipping a lever each time, so that the people around me are safe?
>>77420333
>>77420630
>>77422365
>can't think of anything else to back up their opinions
>continues to resort to "cuz the constitution"
Way to prove my point.
>>77422571
You can't buy a car and move it to private property without a license. At best you're disingenuous, at worst you're retarded.
>>77421900
>the cusp of a technological singularity.
>>77422571
Underrated post
>>77417841
No because not all of this is required at the same level or at aall across the nation as a whole. Really its only an argument for state's rights
>>77417841
It's not a bad idea to seek out some kind of liability insurance regarding the possibility of self defense. There are some insane stories of innocent homeowners being sued by an intruder or family of an intruder who was wounded or killed during a home invasion. I'm not sure if liability insurance exists for such a scenario but there are defense lawyers who deal in cases of justifiable use of deadly force.
>>77422727
>Way to prove my point.
It's a living document. It can be changed any time. If you can't change it then it means that the majority disagrees with you.
>>77422727
it's not an opinion. there will not be any new gun ban or restriction, period. this is the rest of your life, unless you leave the country.
>>77422808
>What is towing, for $200, Alex?
>>77422808
>what is a weekend VTR for $500, alex?
>>77422808
You can buy any car you want, and have it towed or trucked to your race track, museum, or "whatever" without any license whatsoever. At best you're a retard, more likely a retard and paid liar.
>>77417841
>Implying I need to pass anything to buy a car
Good joke anon
everyone's life can be threatened
not everyone needs to drive
>>77417955
Actually no they don't. In America they both kill 31.3 people per million.
>>77418058
Actually a lot of European countries would refuse to let the peasantry be armed (revolts and all that). England was really one of the only places at the time to actively arm them.
>>77418755
Those pesky laws keeping you from implementing your liberal utopia. Damn founding fathers - bunch of old, white men, IKR?
>>77417841
Driving=privilege
Owning arms=Right
>>77417841
Over 1 million people die a year from car accidents. Vastly more than gun related deaths. Should we ban them as well? Cigarettes kill 400,000 a year. Should we ban them?
>>77423279
Well I mean how do you regulate blacksmiths?
Anyone could arm themselves with a weapon back then.
>>77422571
I'll bring this up with my sister.
>>77420308
I don't think the right to travel is guaranteed in your constitution.
Maybe you're thinking of our [superior] charter of rights and freedoms?
>>77423599
You're only off by 967,326.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year
>>77423279
This. The basis of English military strength was this huge meritocratic experiment where every man was obliged to become "well regulated" at arms. In this way they both secured great manpower and also located talent which would be hidden in other systems.
>>77417841
NRA offers 100 of gun training and gun safety course. But fucking cunt ass bitches on the left are too fucking stupid to know that is what they do.
>>77417841
SLIDE THREAD
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>>77417841
>I don<t understand what is public property
>the image
>>77417841
Cars are most certainly not tagged and titled at every point of sale
>>77418755
t. someone who does not bother reading or understanding the constitution
>>77422114
>cars kill people
>>77418755
the people who created that document are savants and the usa they created is the best country to ever exist
so
fuck off
low iq faggot
>>77424159
Probably why there isn't a call for a nationwide ban on cars, huh?
>>77422676
>How about trying to update it?
The whole thing is created on the idea of inalienable rights, an inherently retarded concept.
>>77423201
>what is suicide
>>77424629
They were amendments. You know, "changes." You can create counter-amendments at ANY TIME.
You can't because no one agrees with you.
>>77424746
What I do when I wake up in brazil.
>>77424029
Nope, just for cars that are roadworthy.
>>77424629
then move faggot
>>77417841
Shall not be infringed.
>Gun training
But liberals lose their shit every time people are trained in weapons handling.
>>77422872
No. The Bill of Rights itself is NOT up for debate. Those first ten amendments are what ALLOW for the document to be living and breathing and what ALLOW for shitcunts like this moron >>77422727
To exist.
Already, the fifth, tenth, first, and second amendments have all come under attack. Possibly more I'm not aware of. And ALL have been in the name of "modern jurisprudence." The hear and now and the immediate ramifications are all that matters to these people. If you allow the Bill of Rights to be modified you ensure the destruction of individual liberty as we know it.
But hey! At least Bubba won't be able to buy his useless AR-15! (Omar will still be able to get his though but nothing's perfect I guess)
>>77423201
But how many more would they kill without regulations?
>>77425331
Here and now* fucking phone
>>77425331
There's nothing in the Constitution that prevents the Bill of Rights from being counter-amended. At all. It's the people's responsibility to maintain them, not the Constitution's and not the government's.
>>77417841
if all that shit falls trough they need to allow open carry and remove no gun zones.
>>77423689
Not really. Metal working is a skill and if your village doesn't have someone with that skill you're out of luck.
Medieval monarchies did their best to disarm citizens. In fact there were laws in major population centers that you could not carry swords over a certain size.
Of course if any retard thinks this is a PRO gun control argument they're dead wrong. The reason weapons even before firearms were regulated was so that control could be exercised effectively over the population. The fact we allow the citizenry to own the same weaponry found in the military is an indication of our enlightenment.
>>77425531
You're arguing as if my argument is based on the belief that the Constitution is holy writ. Your statement does not invalidate my argument.
There is a reason we have come to know them as The Bill of Rights. They secure the people's ability to demand further amendments. They secure the people's ability to control their government and not be unjustly handled at the hands of the law.
You can believe that governments will continue to behave appropriately all nice like because "why would Obama ever hurt me for no reason? You're crazy xD" but the day will come when the populace needs to be armed. And you and your milquetoast arguments alongside other terrified over-emotional non-thinkers are doing your best to ensure that the citizenry do not come out on to that day.
>>77425333
How funny would it be to see a GTA style rampage where some dude takes out 50 pedestrians.
>>77427833
I meant how many would cars kill without regulations
LAND OF OPPORTUNITY
Reminder that the Muslim-American Dream is still alive.
>>77418014
>being this absolutely fucking retarded
I beg you to end your own life immediately.
>>77425531
Actually yes there is. Altering the first and second amendments, and really also the fourth, completely changes our entire system, because it undoes our unique premise of innate rights, and makes us just another country like France.
>>77418755
Ignore them. They always argue over the 2nd amendment but don't argue about how the 4th amendment is deteriorating right in front of our very eyes. They always criticize Bernie supporters for being stubborn, but they are just the same thing.
>>77427888
thats not the point, the issue is, the right to bear arms
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
and also there is no right to drive, so it can be regulated as you let them.
then there's also the fact that you cannot remove a persons rights without due process
>which is why criminals cant legally buy guns
like they would anyway?
>>77420734
>assault
>accident
Pick one
>>77418755
People want safety and giving away their right to protect themselves to some police that doesn't even show up in time is a joke.
How many robberies have been stopped by the police, that came 15 minutes later?
>>77428227
what? I'm not sure what point you're countering here. did you respond to the right person? I'm saying de-regulating cars is a dumb move
Read the chain I was responding to. starts at >>77417888
I'm pro-gun
>>77418058
>a gun is a sword
t. whoever the hell designed that dumbass sword in FFVIII
We don't have a right to bear cars. Also, let's stop kidding ourselves about leftists wanting "gun control". Their ultimate objective is a complete ban of all weapons. They did this in England. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...
>>77417841
>>77428161
2nd amendment>1st amendment>4th amendment
If you have guns that means you can defend your right to tell people that the police illegally searched your property.
If you don't have 1st amendment rights your 4th amendment rights are irrelevant as the government can legally just censor your complaints and no one will ever know that your 4th amendment rights were violated in the first place, essentially nullifying them.
If you don't have 2nd amendment rights an angry mob can threaten to murder you and anyone that tells your story, essentially nullifying your 1st amendment rights.
Only idiots think the erosion of the 4th amendment is a more pressing concern than the 2nd.
>1 post by this ID
>>77422114
Mudslimes kill people.
>>77422114
Niggers kill people
i just don't fucking understand america's obsessions with guns
korea has almost non-existent gun related crimes because you can't get a gun here. the only time gun related crimes happen are when people legally have guns, like when korean men go to the military, or cops go batshit crazy
personally i feel uncomfortable as fuck anytime around a gun, even a cop; being around a device and knowing its only purpose is to kill another human is uncomfortable for me, even if i'm the owner of it
i really don't understand america's pro-gun argument.. you think the government is trying to de-arm you so they can fuck you in the ass?
lol, bro, do you think your ar-15 is going to do anything against the government's bombs/nukes/tanks/multi billion-dollar vehicles?
and having a gun in your home 'for self-defence' is equally dumb.
move to a safer area, lock your door, install reinforced steel windows/doors with higher security than a bank vault and you'll be fine
you paranoid libertarian stupid fuck
You can buy a car and use it on private property without license? Right?
>>77430286
>Asian preaches to us the joy of living the safe unarmed lifestyle.
>>77430286
>i just don't fucking understand america's obsessions with guns
Guns are a part of their culture and always have been, it's normal you don't understand if you don't live there.
>>77417841
>>77417841
Given the death rates, we should have more restrictive legislation for motorized vehicles.
>>77417841
Which Amendment covers cars again?
>>77422571
>used gun salesman in a fancy suit
No thanks. I trust my bearded rednecks
>>77417841
>Niggers still driving unregistered stolen cars without licenses
Have you ever seen cops?
>>77430286
you must not have a lot of people pushing for (((communism))) in korea
also fuck you gook!
did i use the right one?
is it fishead?
being american is hard we have so many hateful words and sometimes it is hard to remember which one goes where
lets settle with fuck you nigger the day of the rope is coming!!!
>>77430286
>Be me
>10 years old
>Get air rifle for Christmas
>ecstatic.jpg
>Dad makes me read the whole manual
>Teaches me how to shoot responsibly
>Hunting license and my own shotgun by 13
>Never killed anyone
>Not "uncomfortable" around guns
>If anyone threatens my life, I know how to stop them
>Absolutely uncucked
Btw you have to go back.
>>77417841
I like how they leave out that you can legally drive at 16, that your licence allows you to drive in all 50 States, that traffic regulations are standardized across all 50 States and that a license allows you to drive wide variety of vehicles from tiny compact cars to extremely powerful sports cars to massive pickup trucks capable of hauling over a ton. And additional licences allow the operation of heavy wheeled vehicles like semi tractor trailers, which would be analogous to heavy weapons.
>>77430552
Yes of course. For some kind of cars, you can't even get a license plate or drivers license that has any relevance to it, because you can only use it, or even park it, on private property (in the USA)
Maybe you can drive this on the road in Europe, but not in the USA, unless your personal friends of the governor of your state.
>>77431048
you're not uncomfortable around guns because your iq is significantly lower than mine
anyone with an iq over 100 gets at least (VERY) slightly nervous doing any slightly dangerous activities, even driving
if you don't feel that around a gun, i guarantee you that your intelligence is below the world avg, it's just basic psychology
basically you're admitting you know this device will be used to kill you/someone else ('a bad person') and you feel no uncomfort around it
okay bro
>>77431345
>Asians are smarter, and also much safer, because they are scared of guns, and own no guns.
>>77431345
Actually guns aren't dangerous unless you're a fucking retard and all you are doing right now is exposing your own ignorance about firearms, which is unsurprising because all chinks are obedient little state owned dogs.
>>77431345
>anyone with an iq over 100 gets at least (VERY) slightly nervous doing any slightly dangerous activities, even driving
>dangerous activities
Like... Standing in front of a gun barrel? That's the only really dangerous part. And only dangerous if the gun is actually loaded.
>basic psychology
To fear inanimate objects? lel.
>Agree with me, or you're stupid
Debate 101
>>77429406
>not factoring in wealth
>not factoring in government stability
>not factoring in foreign intervention
>not factoring in racial tensions
gun ownership has no correlation to homicide rate
>>77430286
>Korea has almost non-existent gun related crimes
Thats because Korea's a homogeneous country. Not many niggers where your from, or mexishits.
>personally I feel uncomfortable as fuck anytime around a gun
This statement reminds me of the pacifists in the middle ages who were killed because they were too afraid to carry daggers, swords, etc. If you are afraid of weapon of the age that much, then you should consider growing a bigger set of balls, or commit suicide. Pussy
>>77417841
I can believe there are people this stubborn here. Only upstanding, sane, and law abiding citizens should be allowed to have guns. Who can argue against that?
>>77431513
i didn't say they were inherently dangerous, they are uncomfortable to be around because their sole and only purpose is to be dangerous/lethal
however, if your intelligence or IQ is very low, you don't feel that uncomfort. just like lower intelligence people don't feel uncomfort fighting/shooting/killing/etc.
>>77431689
I'd be more afraid to carry a dagger or sword.
They have sharp edges. Guns are much less likely to accidentally cut me.
I say we compromise; I can keep my gun, and you liberals can get fucked.
>>77419555
Check 'em and reck 'em.
>>77431345
You do realize the fear is all in whoever is holding the gun, right? Your logic states that a gun could be mounted on a wall and it'd make you uncomfortable, it's absolute nonsense. Very sad!
>>77422808
At best you're a complete fucking moron. At worst you're a jew.
>>77431689
it's 2016 lol
technology which can instantly kill you is much more advanced than a fucking $145 gas powered gun
you genuinely believe you're going to get into a gun-fight with your government and a civil war will abrupt? if so, you'd get wiped out pretty much instantly and the government will suffer 0.0% causalities from your shitty little gun
>>77431345
are you afraid around knifes too?
>>77421504
I'm in Atlanta, want to hire me as armed security?
>>77432060
>you afraid around knifes too?
not as much, because if it's in a kitchen i realize it's purpose is to cut onions and not shove it into someone's stomach
but even so, i would say yea i'm a bit uncomfortable if someone i don't know very well is holding a particularly long and sharp knife around me even if it's in a kitchen
>>77432050
>you genuinely believe you're going to get into a gun-fight with your government and a civil war will abrupt?
I sincerely hope, it's erupt by the way, that I never have to. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
>if so, you'd get wiped out pretty much instantly and the government will suffer 0.0% causalities from your shitty little gun
Ignoring that a hefty chunk of the military will rebel... I'd rather die on my feet than live life on my knees.
>>77431810
I think you might just be a giant pussy. Fear of the unknown (what you are demonstrating) is not a trait of people who are intelligent, only those who are perpetually afraid. As per calling people you don't know low iq, just more cowardice from the yellow man. You say you fear driving? Jesus, just kill yourself like all the other zipperheads so you don't have to be so nervous anymore.
>>77430286
korea wasnt formed by a small group of men who would have fucking hanged if they didnt succeed.
As for the rest of your argument. Fuck You.
We will die to the last man fighting off you gun grabbing fucks.
Youre not even korean, you fucking imposter.
>limpwristed gook crying about guns ITT
lel
>>77432346
what are you talking about
you wouldn't die in a gun fight like you heroically imagine
there'd be chemicals in the air and bombs from the sky that will kill you before you even remember where you left your gun
>>77432050
yeah your country's a real fucking great place to live. your defeatist collectivist pathetic mindset is telling. i hope you go long enough without killing yourself to realize how wrong and stupid you are.
Number of Federal Background Checks required to buy a car: 0
>>77417841
Nope it's a pretty good argument.
We must end car regulation.
>>77431473
That's cherry picking and you know it. Try Australia.
>>77432468
>you wouldn't die in a gun fight like you heroically imagine
Never said gunfight. Said on my feet. Free. Can't take that away from me.
>implying gubmint is retarded enough to chemical bomb it's own civilians to get to a few guerrillas
That might fly with foreign countries' civilians all the way over there, but civilians here wouldn't like that.
>health requirements
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>77432613
Yeah the 1997 buyback program sure changed crime rates.
>>77432384
what do you mean fear of the unknown? koreans spend 2 years in the army and know much more about guns and are better trained than you
and koreans still hate guns
if your brain cannot accurately assess risks, such as guns, it is a lower intelligence and less superior brain
smarter people tend to live much longer on average for this very reason; they unconsciously assess risks much better
i'm not say i'm scared of an unloaded gun in a locked cupboard, no
i'm saying i'm uncomfortable loading and holding that gun and using it on someone else regardless of who they are, or being near a loaded gun that belongs to someone else; like a cop because i don't know that person's mental state or IQ
>>77432468
Unlike in South Korea, American soldiers are sworn to protect the American public and uphold the Constitution of the United States. Whatever retarded notion you have of the military bombing civilians without question, half of the military would turn against the other half the first time it happened.
>>77432613
>That's cherry picking and you know it. Try Mexico.
You got me bro. I know when I'm stumped. Mexico banned guns like you Libtards told them to do, and they are finally safe/. Really makes you think.
There's tonnes of countries with guns where people aren't going crazy with them mass shooting people. (War zones don't count). It's not regulation it's the fucked up populace of Americans
>>77417955
But cars aren't DESIGNED to kill, so that makes it ok!
>>77417841
I agree desu, it doesn't mean you don't have the right to bear arms, but it can't hurt to make sure people know how to responsibly use guns to be able to purchase one. It will cut down on accidents.
>>77417841
Your right to drive a motor vehicle is not guaranteed by the US Constitution.
>>77432860
>Listening to a human sheep
>>77432944
>thing designed to kill kills less than thing not designed to kill
Man, the thing designed to kill sucks at its job.
>>77432390
Crazy assed angry mother fucker.
Settle down dude you're going to have a heart attack.
>>77431345
Wrong, my IQ is 133, I'm not afraid at all of driving. I'm a big time car enthusiast too. I race cars.
>>77417841
Get rid of the insurance scam and the inspections and I could get behind this. It would effectively just be making all gun owners take the concealed carry course. I am all for making people who want guns actually know how to responsibly use them.
>>77432613
>Try Australia
Found the retard in the room
>>77432487
the ad hominen is hilarious because it doesn't effect me, since i'm not ethnically korean your insults against asians just shows your racist and retarded bigotry
korea's high suicide rate is more of a cultural thing; in america, for example, about 1-3% of americans should morally and ethically commit suicide, but they don't, while in korea people who did fucked up or feel like they're a fuck up just go through with it
and yeah, korea is a great place to live; not only is our purchasing salary higher than yours (not talking about gdp btw), we don't have to think about getting headshotted while being outside of our house
>>77417841
If cars were a constitutional right
>>77433273
>limpwristed koreaboo english teacher
By your own metric, you should commit suicide.
>>77433273
>we don't have to think about getting headshotted while being outside of our house
You just have to think about getting bombed into ash by North Korean artillery that's aimed at your head 24/7
>>77417841
yes.
If weapons were like cars. Then a 5 year old could buy a nuclear weapon online and then use it on private property with no restriction.
>>77417841
>1 post by this ID
>100+ posts
Lots of sliding going on atm, is the DNC in full damage control?
You can buy and own a car without registration and insurance though.
Only if you want to use it on public road do you need those things
>>77417841
>not all states have the same laws for vehicles
>driving is a privilege
>cars kill more people than guns in America
Constitutional rights are exactly that. Rights, not privileges. Take away one and take away them all
>>77417841
cars are far more deadly and kill 2 magnitudes more people than guns, even though there's half as many cars as guns in the US.
#BanAssaultCars
>>77417841
Driving = Shooting
Owning = Owning
>>77431672
I agree with your first four points but you just went full retard with that last one.
>car
>explicitly enumerated and protected right
>>77433438
except i'm not an english teacher, nor am i an american, and been here since high school
but i don't need to defend myself ; you should be on the defensive. you come from a country where your citizens are getting shot and killed by hundreds of thousands per year, and you're still defending the devices used to do that
this only shows me your intelligence, and morals, are below societal standards; which is actually a great reason for suicide; if you are truly patriotic for your country i highly recommend suicide
>>77433516
no, that's american turbo fueled propaganda, which you eat up just like you eat up the belief that guns are good for you
the chances of unification within the next 20 years are absurdly high
>>77417841
>>77433760
>your citizens are getting shot and killed by hundreds of thousands per year
Most of them survive, and most of them are criminals. Why do you care if criminals get shot/die? Reap what you sow.
>>77417841
REGULATED
>REGULATED
REGULATED
>REGUULATED
>>77433877
That's what SK have been saying since the 80s. Enjoy your 30mm mortars.
>>77433760
So you're from some other Asian shithole or something?
Nigs are going to nig regardless of whether or not there are guns lying around. Educate yourself.
>>77433729
9th amendment.
>>77433760
would you like some basketball americans to go with your gun free zone Ming?
>>77433760
Kman pretty good bantz throughout the thread
>>77433936
center fire metallic cartridge using firearms already existed during the civil war.
>>77433927
why do i care if a human is shot and killed? are you actually asking this?
the amount of situations where if you don't instantly kill another human you will die are extremely fucking rare, 99.9% of gun related cases are nothing about any kind of life-threatening self defense
besides, instead of a gun there are certainly other non-lethal alternatives to instantly disable someone
>>77418755
Oh, are we supposed to feel bad for defending the supreme law of the land?!!?
OH MY GOD
HOW UNREASONABLE
I CANT BELIEVE YOU MURICANS WOULD DEFEND A 200 YEAR OLD PIECE OF PAPER
ITS LIKE YOU ENJOY YOUR RIGHTS OR SOMETHING
SO WEIRD
>>77433760
LOL gtfo you chinky dick chinese wink
>devices used to do that
Let's ban guns, knives, cars, household items, toasters and why were at it let's ban msg since it kills people
>>77418755
>what is the rule of law
>>77433936
>>77433990
no, i'm not asian
nigs are going to nig because you put them into that situation, and i'm not talking about slavery i'm talking about systematic racism in america
how about you fix your poverty/education/health problems before getting more guns?
>>77432860
>only argument is "muh low iq"
>not an argument
>i'm not say i'm scared of an unloaded gun in a locked cupboard, no
i'm saying i'm uncomfortable loading and holding that gun and using it on someone else regardless of who they are, or being near a loaded gun that belongs to someone else; like a cop because i don't know that person's mental state or IQ
>Someone else might be as untrained and unfamiliar with guns as I am therefore I am afraid.
Tell me more about how unfamiliar you are with guns will you?
![[rabbit fucking intensifies].gif](https://i.imgur.com/pmtXTNG.gif "[rabbit fucking intensifies].gif")
>>77433995
>explicit
>>77434299
tbqh guns are helping with the nog problem, just not fast enough
>>77434299
Oh so you are a white loser in Korea?
>systematic racism
Nice meme.
>>77434307
first amendment, right to assemble
>>77434182
those things are
1. not as effective as killing people as a gun
2. do not have the main purpose of killing someone
you think if the recent orlando shooter tried doing the same thing with a knife, toaster, household items, or a car that he would rack up a 50:1 kill death ratio? are you retarded?
>>77433936
Still the shitposting champions of the world, I see.
>>77434392
1. i look better than you
2. i make more money than you
yes, i'm a white loser in korea
>>77434155
>why do i care if a human is shot and killed? are you actually asking this?
No, I asked why you care if they are shot and/OR killed.
It's not like they're "good" humans, of which we have plenty.
>99.9% of gun related cases are nothing about any kind of life-threatening self defense
Right, most of them are a criminal killing a criminal. Definitely better than half.
>besides, instead of a gun there are certainly other non-lethal alternatives to instantly disable someone
To "instantly disable"? Nope. Disable, sure. Instantly? Nothing stops someone better/faster than a CNS shot.
>>77420630
> If you don't want the protection of the Constitution, get out.
Or he can try to amend the constitution. So many gun control advocates actually believe that the 2nd amendment should be abolished, but instead of trying to follow the rules of the system and amend the constitution, they look for underhanded ways to take away constitutionally guaranteed rights.
Constitutionalism isn't about people going "muh constitution" - it's about protecting America's democratic system. Rights can be added or taken away by amending the constitution - but the system was designed in a way to make amending far more difficult than simply passing a new law. That way, Congress or the president can't easily take away rights.
>>77434427
Actually cars and arguably foods and chemicals cause disease which are way more effecient, therefore what doesn't have the same purpose is more effective. invalid argument.
and yes I'm sure he could do the same with poison or worse
Last time I checked, the constitution didn't guarantee everyone a means of transport.
>>77434427
>what are explosives.
tim mcveigh (OKC bomber) who just lost his crown cuz of omar could have spent a little ore time and went full 911 on the federal building
>>77431345
>I get scared around anything that can possibly harm me
Doesn't that mean you are constantly scared? Everything can harm you. It's when you learn how to handle it, is when you stop being afraid.
Driving is a privilege. Arms are a right
>>77434397
They mean assemble into a group of people.
Not right to assemble a car from car parts.
>>77434516
hahahaha now it's confirmed you're a fat neckbeard who was too socially awkward to even get a job at an American supermarket.
>>77418014
Extra snark
>>77434646
first amendment
>or the right of the people peaceably to assemble
>>77434728
the car is a means of you getting to where you will assemble.
>>77434631
so you're trying to tell me a homosexual low IQ mentally unstable arab would be able to devise a plot to kill more than 50 people easily without a gun using fucking food poison?
damn, in that case, isis really needs to step up their shit
>>77417841
I guess I missed the comstiutional right to a car, which amendment is that again?
>>77430286
>move to a safer area
Are you fucking retarded? Millions of people who feel threatened will move, then they'll just attract criminals to where they are because they work and criminals don't. They'll have to more again, and again, and again. You can't establish a life somewhere if you have to constantly move.
>>77434770
Has nothing to do with transportation, only with meeting in public or private places.
>>77434830
if he spent his time sure. and he sure couldve also purchased a gun illegally. I bet you if those clubbers were armed he wouldnt have entered that club.
>>77434811
So you are trying to invent penumbras that don't actually exist in the amendment?
Well in that case, guns are protected by the first amendment. To ensure you aren't killed by a bear on your way to assemble.
>>77434770
That's reaching. You can walk to a gathering place in that case.
>>77434888
and the car is how you get to the meeting.
>>77431672
Agreed. While I think that from a philosophical stand point we should protect gun rights, gun control really doesn't matter one way or another crime wise.
>>77434921
believe it or not, people don't like getting killed, it's actually pretty hard killing humans
guns made that task much easier and it's the only semi-reliable way to kill a large amount of people in america
bomb plots don't work as easily as you think. i mean look at the boston marathon, you'd think planting a bomb in an area would thousands of people would kill a lot, but it killed like 2-4, right?
>>77434942
in that case planes, jets, boats are all a right. I mean there's public transportation, that's enough.
>>77434942
But you can also get to the meeting by train, bus, car pooling, walking, bicycle, etc. Your right to operate a motor vehicle is not in any way guaranteed by the US Constitution.
>>77421751
Why is that dindu waving an italian flag
>>77435062
>people dont like getting killed
So you agree? If civilians in the club were armed this would've been avoided!
>>77417841
cars should be less regulated
>>77418755
>you can only counter with "muh constitution" or "muh amendments".
Whelp, I'm triggered.
Tell you what, let's do a mental exercise. You give me the full list of powers you want to give to Obama or Sanders or whoever else. Assume they have a Democratic Congress, and it's not an election year so they're not worried about campaigning. Assume two more SCOTUS conservatives die and get replaced by liberals.
To be clear: I'm not asking what laws or measures you want passed like single-payer healthcare or a gun ban or whatever. I'm asking what powers you want them to have. Search your home for guns without a warrant? Search people on the street? Seize property from the rich? Silence hate speech? Tear apart State and local infrastructure to install green power and public transportation? Mandatory diversity training? Go crazy, the world is your oyster.
Got your list?
Great. Now all that power is in the hands of Trump and a white separatist Congress with a conservative SCOTUS. He builds the wall, deports all brown people, silences social justice speech, and closes off international trade. Then you'll be crying "muh constitution" all the way to mandatory Austrian Economics class.
It's not a fucking difficult concept. Different people want to live in different ways. We have a government that's supposed to do the bare minimum so that it can enable different people to continue living in different ways. Go fuck up California with stupid state laws, leave us red state people alone.
>>77435209
are you telling me in america it's actually legal to be intoxicated and carry a gun?
who goes to a club and doesn't drink because they have a gun on them?
it's really stupid fucking logic; but yea maybe if somebody shot the shooter right away less people would die, but that's not how the world works and that's not how most situations play out
most gun related murders kill only 1 person at a time, not mass amounts
again; please explain to me why countries like japan/korea don't have gun related murders? outside the military i think that number might be less than 1-2 per year
if you want to say it's because your country has blacks, that's not a good argument because biologically there is very little difference between you and your big-dicked friend
>>77434511
Still the mass murder champions of the world, i see :)
>>77424903
Haha
>>77435475
>if you want to say it's because your country has blacks, that's not a good argument because biologically there is very little difference between you and your big-dicked friend
Oh my
>>77431672
Switzerland is more racially diverse than Honduras.
>>77435475
>but that's not how the world works and that's not how most situations play out
It could be how the world works. But isn't how most situations play out since not enough intended victims arm themselves/are allowed to themselves be armed.
>>77435817
>racial TENSIONS
>>77435500
We are laughably safe, compared to the actual dangerous (usually countries where guns are banned) countries like Mexico and Venezuela.
If you compare white people to white people, we are easily as safe as Ausfalia (not that we even give a fuck)
what do you guys think that the 0.00 gun homicides per year countries have in common? take a wild guess
protip: you can't get a gun
you think those countries are just morally/ethically superior to years?
protip: they're really not, humans are garbage everywhere and crime, included murder, happens in every country
it's just harder to do if you don't have a gun
if the USA wants to become country-status, they should seize all and every guns and impose huge fines/prison sentences for anyone found with a gun
wait 10 years
usa becomes a decent country again
>>77418755
If you want to take away guns, you need to do it in a different government. This government is determined by the constitution. The debate is over.
OC
>>77418755
>You're like militant religious zealots.
Thank you. That is how one should feel about our wonderful constitution. I love how much you hate that, it you didn't then I would need to reassess myself. CVCK.
>>77428090
lol. you guys are fucking brutal... and it makes me laugh.
>>77428415
This is an excellent point, Hans. Seriously.
>>77436052
>what do you guys think that the 70.00 per hundred thousand gun homicides per year countries have in common? take a wild guess
>protip: you can't get a gun
Yeah no shit retard. (Venezuela, Mexico, Brazil, Cambodia, etc)
>>77418048
This. Read the document. Entirely. Cars cannot be used as a last resort. Read the first paragraph of the constitution.
>>77417841
Cars still fucking kill people so yes it is.
